Tales of xillia is the greatest jrpg from this gen

This seems unlikely, because it's a Tales game. Tales games are grindy as f*ck. That is not good game design.

DarkLink77

?? I'm playing Tales of the Abyss and I've done maybe fifteen minutes of grinding in my 40 hours of play thus far... granted, I try to explore every dungeon as thoroughly as possible so I guess you can say that there's unintentional grinding happening.  But still, I've never had to actually completely stop everything and say to myself "okay, it's time to grind."

Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. Capitan_Kid

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

Radiant Historia still stands as the best JRPG this gen for me. Granted, I'm only a few hours into Xillia.

whiskeystrike

RH is my second favorite DS game... the concept and story were awesome and extremely well executed... the writers squeezed every drop of potential out of it that they could.  there are some flaws (mostly the linearity and the beggining chunk is somewhat slow) but damn... It's one for the ages.  Not many games made me as emotionally attached to the cast as that game did.  (Although there have been several other JRPGs from this gen that have gotten me attached, most recently being Tales of the Abyss, due to the strong script).

Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. Capitan_Kid

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. turtlethetaffer

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. Capitan_Kid

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

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You forget yourself, good sir. 

Seriously, though, sorry you see it that way.  I loved the game, just about everything about it.  Had tons of quests, many of which have ncie rewards that aid in character customization and whatnot.  Made them worth doing.  Plus the story, soundtrack, and artistic design were all top notch.  To me, at least.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

turtlethetaffer

:o

You forget yourself, good sir. 

Seriously, though, sorry you see it that way.  I loved the game, just about everything about it.  Had tons of quests, many of which have ncie rewards that aid in character customization and whatnot.  Made them worth doing.  Plus the story, soundtrack, and artistic design were all top notch.  To me, at least.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. turtlethetaffer

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] If by best you mean boring, then sure.Capitan_Kid

:o

You forget yourself, good sir. 

Seriously, though, sorry you see it that way.  I loved the game, just about everything about it.  Had tons of quests, many of which have ncie rewards that aid in character customization and whatnot.  Made them worth doing.  Plus the story, soundtrack, and artistic design were all top notch.  To me, at least.

wait, you haven't even beaten Metal Face yet?  Wow... You are not far into the game AT ALL.  You have a good ways to go.  You should really try to get past that in order to see the story at the very least...

There was some trick to beating him, I don't remember, though, it's been a while and I've played several JRPGs since then.  

And I loved the combat system, I thought it allowed for convenient, but not necessarily easy, gameplay.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. heeweesRus

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

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Xenoblade's controls actually work properly, and it doesn't feel gimped.

So GTFO.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

If we are counting handhelds Fire emblem awaking deserves to be up there somewhere. I wasint even that into the gameplay that much but the story was very enjoyable and most importantly the characters and the realationships you could build with them was freaking just awesome. Im happy my avatar meant something.

Capitan_Kid

Well it's not a JRPG but sure.

Alright, then the greatest JRPGs this gen were Final Fantasy Tactics War of the Lion and Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] If by best you mean boring, then sure.Capitan_Kid

:o

You forget yourself, good sir. 

Seriously, though, sorry you see it that way.  I loved the game, just about everything about it.  Had tons of quests, many of which have ncie rewards that aid in character customization and whatnot.  Made them worth doing.  Plus the story, soundtrack, and artistic design were all top notch.  To me, at least.

You just gatta grind. I didint hit the grind spot till about semi near end. Also theres a skill you will need later on but its hidden in a side mission so gatta find that out yourself. Also im guessing the devs thought people would be beefed up and wouldint have to grind cause of the sidequest exp but some of the side stuff you gatta go out your way and I didint care enough to.

Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. Capitan_Kid

I will agree its overrated but its still a great game. Only real big negatives for me like I said before was largely a boring cast and that stupid skill thing kinda urked me.I mainly kept playing cause the combat was fun and the world itself was interesting and I wanted to know more.

Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. Capitan_Kid

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

:o

You forget yourself, good sir. 

Seriously, though, sorry you see it that way.  I loved the game, just about everything about it.  Had tons of quests, many of which have ncie rewards that aid in character customization and whatnot.  Made them worth doing.  Plus the story, soundtrack, and artistic design were all top notch.  To me, at least.

turtlethetaffer

wait, you haven't even beaten Metal Face yet?  Wow... You are not far into the game AT ALL.  You have a good ways to go.  You should really try to get past that in order to see the story at the very least...

There was some trick to beating him, I don't remember, though, it's been a while and I've played several JRPGs since then.  

And I loved the combat system, I thought it allowed for convenient, but not necessarily easy, gameplay.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Im overexaggerating a bit but I simply didnt like the combat system. Its the same one White Knight Chronicles had. AND I CANT BEAT THAT GODDAMN METALFACE BOSS! THE FAT ONE! GRAAAAH!Capitan_Kid

wait, you haven't even beaten Metal Face yet?  Wow... You are not far into the game AT ALL.  You have a good ways to go.  You should really try to get past that in order to see the story at the very least...

There was some trick to beating him, I don't remember, though, it's been a while and I've played several JRPGs since then.  

And I loved the combat system, I thought it allowed for convenient, but not necessarily easy, gameplay.

I AM in LOVE with this game! the first 20 minutes gave me major nostalgia and the graphics are amazing by the way i dont see why IGN complained about them :/

ANYWAYS ILOVE THIS!

TWO COPIES and Dragons Crown Vita baby! :cool:

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. turtlethetaffer

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

LO gets my vote by a long shot. One of the best RPGs this gen period.

 

[QUOTE="Badosh"]
No, Vesperia was great. Better than Xillia. Minishdriveby

Vesperia is down there with Eternal Sonata.  Might be better than Xillia but that speaks more to how bad Xillia is than Vesperia being good.

Eternal Sonata was much better than Vesperia or Ni No Kuni.

Jrpgs have really been pretty bad this gen. I miss the Suikoden series, Grandia, Mana, Vandel Hearts, Parasite Eve, Legend of Legia, Legend of Dragoon, wild arms, Vagrant Story, Over world mapped FF, etc.... god how i miss the PS1 era!!!

This is 'merica.. get your crappy JRPG games outta here boy.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. DarkLink77

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

bbkkristian

Surprised to see so many posts

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. heeweesRus

Tough to overrate the ebst console game of this generation.

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The most boring game of this generation is the best game of this generation? LOL

The missions in that game were so damn repetitive, nearly every single one them followed the same formula.

Anyway, hopefully amazon shipped my Tales of Xillia copy yesterday (Im european).

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Im overexaggerating a bit but I simply didnt like the combat system. Its the same one White Knight Chronicles had. AND I CANT BEAT THAT GODDAMN METALFACE BOSS! THE FAT ONE! GRAAAAH!Capitan_Kid

wait, you haven't even beaten Metal Face yet?  Wow... You are not far into the game AT ALL.  You have a good ways to go.  You should really try to get past that in order to see the story at the very least...

There was some trick to beating him, I don't remember, though, it's been a while and I've played several JRPGs since then.  

And I loved the combat system, I thought it allowed for convenient, but not necessarily easy, gameplay.

Also the overrating of Xenoblade in this thread is nauseating. Capitan_Kid

I love when people get butthurt about the praise Xenoblade gets.

Anyway, as far as the claim in the OP is concerned, I highly doubt a Tales game is the best of the gen.

[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] No it was all the hype. It was exclusive and everyone praised it to heaven and back. When I played it I found out it was just mediocre. Ragnarok1051

It seems pretty arrogant to dismiss other people's opinions on Vesperia as hype just because you didn't personally care for it.

"Ni No Kuni" and "Xenoblades" says hi :|

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="Badosh"]
No, Vesperia was great. Better than Xillia. Minishdriveby

Vesperia is down there with Eternal Sonata.  Might be better than Xillia but that speaks more to how bad Xillia is than Vesperia being good.

Eternal Sonata might be better than Vesperia and Ni No Kuni, but that speaks more to how bad Vesperia and Ni No Kuni are than Sonata being good.  I'd liken it to getting shot in the stomach being better than shot in the brain.  While that is definitely true, the best option when it comes to shootings is not to get shot period.

There are good JRPGs.  Play a good one rather than picking between mediocre and unnoteworthy.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Dark Souls.

Sweenix

Never played, the difficulty is sooo.. offputting

Give me an easy mode with unlimited respawns and then i might try

This speaks volumes about you, Sweenix.  I ass-umed you were another forever alone basement dweller who hungrily lapped up anything from the magical land of Japan.  I bet when you wake up every morning your first thought is disappointment that you aren't Japanese.

But nooooooooo, you obviously prefer your JRPG experience to be an ultra-linear, handholding, grindfest.  People made such a big deal about the Souls series breaking the traditional JRPG mold.

I sincerely hope you have a gf, Sweenix.

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Dark Souls.

Boddicker

Never played, the difficulty is sooo.. offputting

Give me an easy mode with unlimited respawns and then i might try

This speaks volumes about you, Sweenix.  I ass-umed you were another forever alone basement dweller who hungrily lapped up anything from the magical land of Japan.  I bet when you wake up every morning your first thought is disappointment that you aren't Japanese.

But nooooooooo, you obviously prefer your JRPG experience to be an ultra-linear, handholding, grindfest.  People made such a big deal about the Souls series breaking the traditional JRPG mold.

I sincerely hope you have a gf, Sweenix.

I do actually have a girl friend :P

and yes, she is real and not animated :)

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Dark Souls.

Sweenix

Never played, the difficulty is sooo.. offputting

Give me an easy mode with unlimited respawns and then i might try

 surpasses xenoblade and persona 4 the golden

 

Sweenix

Not in a million years.

I don't know why people are getting so worked up over, I'am about half way though Xillia and it's been pretty average so far Graces F is definitely a better game than this.

Sadly Xenoblade beats it TC.

Stringerboy

Hey look its one of the two only enjoyable cast members just make a sharla pick and its complete.

It's hard for me to decide between Tales of Xillia, and Tales of Graces. They're both amazing games.

It's hard for me to decide between Tales of Xillia, and Tales of Graces. They're both amazing games.

GeoffZak

Off topic but hey thats angel beats as your sig. Dang good anime....well execpt for the white hair character.

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Im overexaggerating a bit but I simply didnt like the combat system. Its the same one White Knight Chronicles had. AND I CANT BEAT THAT GODDAMN METALFACE BOSS! THE FAT ONE! GRAAAAH!Stringerboy

You just gatta grind. I didint hit the grind spot till about semi near end. Also theres a skill you will need later on but its hidden in a side mission so gatta find that out yourself. Also im guessing the devs thought people would be beefed up and wouldint have to grind cause of the sidequest exp but some of the side stuff you gatta go out your way and I didint care enough to.

Just use Sharla, Riki, and Shulk. Grinding is unneccesary.

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"][QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

Vesperia is down there with Eternal Sonata.  Might be better than Xillia but that speaks more to how bad Xillia is than Vesperia being good.

Senor_Kami

Eternal Sonata might be better than Vesperia and Ni No Kuni, but that speaks more to how bad Vesperia and Ni No Kuni are than Sonata being good.  I'd liken it to getting shot in the stomach being better than shot in the brain.  While that is definitely true, the best option when it comes to shootings is not to get shot period.

There are good JRPGs.  Play a good one rather than picking between mediocre and unnoteworthy.

Just leaving [spoiler] Hamil, and off to Nia Khera, [/spoiler] now. Really enjoying it. 

There hasn't been more than two noteworthy Jrpgs this gen. Only two.Jakandsigz

I can think of 3 released this year alone so LOL.

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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

Never played, the difficulty is sooo.. offputting

Give me an easy mode with unlimited respawns and then i might try

Sweenix

This speaks volumes about you, Sweenix.  I ass-umed you were another forever alone basement dweller who hungrily lapped up anything from the magical land of Japan.  I bet when you wake up every morning your first thought is disappointment that you aren't Japanese.

But nooooooooo, you obviously prefer your JRPG experience to be an ultra-linear, handholding, grindfest.  People made such a big deal about the Souls series breaking the traditional JRPG mold.

I sincerely hope you have a gf, Sweenix.

I do actually have a girl friend :P

and yes, she is real and not animated :)

You remind me of Krieger on Archer