Team Ninja Wants to Make Another Metroid?

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#102 DJ-Lafleur
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Some of the comments in this thread make me think people just want Retro's creativity to be restricted to only Metroid. I guess people would rather have Retro working on Metroid Prime 567 than actually putting their own spin on other franchises like they did with Donkey Kong Country Returns, or god forbid actually create their own IP...

As for Other M, it was one of the weaker Metroid titles, although not the weakest; Metroid II, Metroid Prime Hunters and Metroid Prime 3 were weaker titles IMO. Other M itself was a very good game. The action was executed well and was fun to play, the controls worked very well in my experience, and the fact that Team Ninja was able to successfully create 2D/3D action hybrid with nothing but a sideways wii-mote was quite impressive. It wasn't perfect (motion controls hardly ever are), but it still worked and I must wonder how other people struggled with them. I had no issues going from point A to Point B, I was able to pull off any command I wanted without much difficulty, the movement was fine. The only time the controls could get iffy were when switching between 2D and 3D, but even then most of the time I ws able to pull it off well without much issue.

They did take a very different route with the Metroid franchise with Metroid Other M, although I don't see how that's bad. The game still had a Metroid-ish vibe to me from the settings in the game to the enemy designs, and I still got that satisfaction of finding new routes and discovering expansions that made past metroids so enjoyable for me. Other M was lacking in exploration sure, although Metroid Fusion took a more linear approach to Metroid, and a majority of the game had you going wherever the Adam AI lead you. Metroid Other M was actually alot like Metroid Fusion for me, albeit what Metroid Fusion did better was item placement, since in Other M a large amount of items couldn't be collected until the very end of the game, after the credits.

The story was disappointing for sure. I was fine with Samus's portrayel for the most part, and the deleter twist was pretty neat, but Anthony was a generic token black friend, the way they ended the whole MB thing was incredibly lame and anti-climactic, and then some other things like naming the main ship you traversed the "bottleship", the point where Samus hugs Adam's hat near the end while cheesy music played, or how Samus didn't activate her varia suit until the very end of that vocanic area were all really hurt the story. Would have been nice if the Ridley scene were less dramatic as well.

But Sakamoto was the one who handled the story and not Team Ninjaa, so even then that can hardly be pinned on Team Ninja. Outside of the disappointing story the actual gameplay was very good. I wouldn't mind if Team Ninja worked on another Metroid.

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#103 Zeviander
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@DJ-Lafleur: I agree wholeheartedly (but will add the opening cinematic and "confession time" to the list of bad things. It seems to me the "entitled gamer complex" is especially strong with Metroid fans. Of whom don't even care to know that there are plenty of "remakes" out there and full blown level editors, that not only provide more of the games they love, but let them build their own.
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#104 AmayaPapaya
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Team Ninja didn't ruin Other M. In fact, all the good stuff about it, the Action and Boss Fights, probably came from Team Ninja. The faults of Other M are almost purely from Nintendo. The portrayal of Samus, terrible story, linear design, weird Controls, all come from Nintendo. Team Ninja could help make an excellent sequel to Other M, if Nintendo designed it like a Metroid game not an Anime.

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#105 vashkey
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Of course they do, Other M is like the best selling game they've published since Itagaki left.
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#106 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Team Ninja didn't ruin Other M. In fact, all the good stuff about it, the Action and Boss Fights, probably came from Team Ninja. The faults of Other M are almost purely from Nintendo. The portrayal of Samus, terrible story, linear design, weird Controls, all come from Nintendo. Team Ninja could help make an excellent sequel to Other M, if Nintendo designed it like a Metroid game not an Anime.

AmayaPapaya
How do you know which company developed what?
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#107 layton2012
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[QUOTE="layton2012"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]
I seriously wonder if I played the same game as others when they say this.
The game was fun and well made on nearly all fronts BUT the characters and dialogue. Those were bad, or rather not fitting for a metroid game.
Id like another Other M structured Metroid but with Team Ninja no where near the story and characters. Other M couldve been amazing if it wasnt for them.

Wiimotefan

I agree, the story was completely terrible, but It had my favorite gameplay of a Metroid on a console post SNES, i was never a fan of the Prime series, so I kind of hope they do get another chance at Metroid, but I just hope someone else writes the story.

Am I the only one that doesn't love the Prime Trilogy, I mean I love Retro, but if they were to do another Metroid, I'd prefer it'd be 2.5D like Other M, even with all the flaws I still prefer OM to the Prime Trilogy.

A 2D, or 2.5 Metroid game from Retro would be godly! Though I would rather see Nintendo throw them a Yoshis Island sequel, but that's just a dream of mine that'll NEVER happen. :P

I would love a Yoshi's Island sequel!! Maybe will get one for 3DS.
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#108 Wild_man_22
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I'd really like another third person metroid, just not sure if I'd like one made by these guys again.

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#109 madsnakehhh
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I liked Other M, so as long as they fix the issues with the game (controllers for example) i'm willing to give it a try.

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#110 miriPlays
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Team Ninja didn't ruin Other M. In fact, all the good stuff about it, the Action and Boss Fights, probably came from Team Ninja. The faults of Other M are almost purely from Nintendo. The portrayal of Samus, terrible story, linear design, weird Controls, all come from Nintendo. Team Ninja could help make an excellent sequel to Other M, if Nintendo designed it like a Metroid game not an Anime.

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I get the feeling that the game would have been better by several orders of magnitude if they had more buttons to work with.
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#111 joojtzu
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I want a sequel to Other M. It was a good game which felt rushed.
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#112 nintendoboy16
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Of course they do, Other M is like the best selling game they've published since Itagaki left.vashkey
That can't be saying much, considering Reggie Fils-Aime grew worries for the franchise. Not to mention, the sales were worse than previous Metroid games.
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#113 nintendoboy16
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Some of the comments in this thread make me think people just want Retro's creativity to be restricted to only Metroid. I guess people would rather have Retro working on Metroid Prime 567 than actually putting their own spin on other franchises like they did with Donkey Kong Country Returns, or god forbid actually create their own IP...

DJ-Lafleur

That's what I've been seeing. Retro needs time away from Metroid, and their work on Donkey Kong proves that.

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#114 mexicangordo
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@DJ-Lafleur: I agree wholeheartedly (but will add the opening cinematic and "confession time" to the list of bad things. It seems to me the "entitled gamer complex" is especially strong with Metroid fans. Of whom don't even care to know that there are plenty of "remakes" out there and full blown level editors, that not only provide more of the games they love, but let them build their own.Zeviander
Double agree. I am so glad Retro will not make another Metroid game, if anything this shows how people this gen are stuck to the past and what they know.

And I mentioned it earlier but no way will TN make another Metroid game, just no way with all the negativity from inside Nintendo and press, will a sequel come out of it.

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#115 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Team Ninja didn't ruin Other M. In fact, all the good stuff about it, the Action and Boss Fights, probably came from Team Ninja. The faults of Other M are almost purely from Nintendo. The portrayal of Samus, terrible story, linear design, weird Controls, all come from Nintendo. Team Ninja could help make an excellent sequel to Other M, if Nintendo designed it like a Metroid game not an Anime.

Kaze_no_Mirai

How do you know which company developed what?

Various videos and interviews. Sakamoto was quite vocal. To be honest, Nintendo didn't even make the story. Sakamoto, if I remember correctly, gave a brief overview to some company in Japan, they created the rest of the story and he was, as he says it, "blown away". The controls idea came from Sakamoto wanting to make Other M, a current NES game, or some crap like that. The portrayal of Samus was Sakamoto's vision of her. I can't remember exactly the details, but I know he chose the English voice actor and told her to talk with that monotonous tone.

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#116 Metrovania
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This news displeases me... They took my favourite female game character and turned her into a scared little girl with Other M - Team Ninja are clearly too sexist to produce a respectable Metroid title.

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#117 madsnakehhh
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Team Ninja didn't ruin Other M. In fact, all the good stuff about it, the Action and Boss Fights, probably came from Team Ninja. The faults of Other M are almost purely from Nintendo. The portrayal of Samus, terrible story, linear design, weird Controls, all come from Nintendo. Team Ninja could help make an excellent sequel to Other M, if Nintendo designed it like a Metroid game not an Anime.

AmayaPapaya

The portrayal of Samus, aside form a questionable scene, was great.

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#118 madsnakehhh
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This news displeases me... They took my favourite female game character and turned her into a scared little girl with Other M - Team Ninja are clearly too sexist to produce a respectable Metroid title.

Metrovania

They did something Nintendo wasn't able to do or didn't wanted to do, to give Samus a personality which i appreciate a lot, and like i said, aside from a particular scene, everything i saw from Samus in Other M was pretty good.

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#119 Zeviander
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This news displeases me... They took my favourite female game character and turned her into a scared little girl with Other M - Team Ninja are clearly too sexist to produce a respectable Metroid title.Metrovania
Lol. Your favorite character that before Other M had about as much personality as a rock? And whom in the depiction in Other M was completely in line with developments made in both Super Metroid and the canonical e-manga? Other M was written by Sakamoto, a person who has worked on the Metroid series since almost the beginning. Not TN. Samus' personality reflected quite well everything that happened in the manga and finally gave insight into who she is when not hiding behind her suit and stoicism. She suffers from extreme PTSD and during the Ridley introduction, was experiencing the crippling dread of losing her parents (who were killed when she was very young; 5?). She then quickly composed herself and went on to beat his ass into the ground in one of the most spectacular Ridley fights since Super. Why does Samus have to be a voiceless badass killing machine? Can't she be allowed to be human? She went past that merciless stage at the end of Metroid II. Granted, there was a strong sense of Japanese cultural stereotypes surrounding women, but she was still strong and proud... and powerful.
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#120 Do_My_Booty
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no thanks other m was sh*t. ninka gaiden 3 is sh*t. doa5 will be sh*t virtua fighter>>tekken>>>doa. dont wanna see another game from team ninja dog and hayash*t.
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#121 DragonfireXZ95
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Team Ninja is awful. They shouldn't be allowed to make anything.
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#122 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Team Ninja didn't ruin Other M. In fact, all the good stuff about it, the Action and Boss Fights, probably came from Team Ninja. The faults of Other M are almost purely from Nintendo. The portrayal of Samus, terrible story, linear design, weird Controls, all come from Nintendo. Team Ninja could help make an excellent sequel to Other M, if Nintendo designed it like a Metroid game not an Anime.

madsnakehhh

The portrayal of Samus, aside form a questionable scene, was great.

I guess it great for what Sakamoto was going for, but what he was going for just wasn't that great.

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#123 jg4xchamp
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Pass. I'm not a person who hates other M, but I'd like something more in line with Prime 1 and 2.
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#124 MirkoS77
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Confession time! Do I have permission to use my missles now? :lol: Other M strove in the right direction (I'm all for exploring Samus' character), but the execution was just terrible.
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#125 joojtzu
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Confession time! Do I have permission to use my missles now? :lol: Other M strove in the right direction (I'm all for exploring Samus' character), but the execution was just terrible. MirkoS77
i agree somewhat. It took the exploration out of the game. I loved just going around the areas back tracking just to find some items to open up a secret area which you could not find previously. With having the items opened to you like suddenly have rockets it took alot of the exploration away.