Ten year lifespan, Sony sez...

What did any of whatever you just posted have to do with the article?

Simple. Leave that up to the Blu ray players and stick to games being on 50 GB discs. Or release a new PS3 SKU with the modified drive. This really affects the movie industry not the gaming.

Almost like when HD-DVD hit after the 360 launched. MS didn't make a new console or change the way it played games. it released and add on that's all.

What did any of whatever you just posted have to do with the article?

OneLazyAsian

FYI, they also said that the PS2 had a ten year life span. But it wasn't a lie, since all they meant was that it would be supported for that time (eg. the PS2 turned 10 earlier this year).

FYI, they also said that the PS2 had a ten year life span. But it wasn't a lie, since all they meant was that it would be supported for that time (eg. the PS2 turned 10 earlier this year).

ThePlothole

and the topic is over and done with.PS1 was supported and still on sale till late 2005 which is bout 10 year after release.

"We're in it for the long haul," sony sez... :roll: So much for that lie. And this is why Sony should never have been allowed to win a format war. Their revisioning fetish ensures they will screw over EVERYONE. :|codezer0

Uhmmm...you DO realize that before the PS3 or BR ever came out, there was speculation that BR discs could be made holding as much as 500 gigs. The only catch was how much companies would be willing to pay to make them.

These are just regular BR discs that any BR player can play. Kind of like how any DVD player can play dual layered DVDs.

In short, you have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. But you decided to make a thread anyway because you believed this story justifiedyour predetermined hatred of Sony.

128 Gigs are really necessary?

What did any of whatever you just posted have to do with the article?

OneLazyAsian

Simple. Leave that up to the Blu ray players and stick to games being on 50 GB discs. Or release a new PS3 SKU with the modified drive. This really affects the movie industry not the gaming.

Almost like when HD-DVD hit after the 360 launched. MS didn't make a new console or change the way it played games. it released and add on that's all.

Zero_epyon

It is possible that in a couple years certain films wont be able to play on the PS3. That being said, the PS3 is first and foremost a gaming console, the Blu Ray is more than enough space for any game. Dont need to look much further than the 360 and DVD for proof of that. I honestly dont see what the problem is.

128 Gigs are really necessary?

JuarN18

"We're in it for the long haul," sony sez... :roll: So much for that lie. And this is why Sony should never have been allowed to win a format war. Their revisioning fetish ensures they will screw over EVERYONE. :|codezer0

OMG...

This is from April......

Tomorrow is July :|

Now, they're releasing a new model of BluRay, which will happily coincide with the PS4 release.codezer0

I see these sizes being beneficial for the next leap in resolution. Beyond 1080p.

FYI, they also said that the PS2 had a ten year life span. But it wasn't a lie, since all they meant was that it would be supported for that time (eg. the PS2 turned 10 earlier this year).

ThePlothole

Thought I'd add.....

The PS2 just sold 7 million units for the fiscal year as well.

I see these sizes being beneficial for the next leap in resolution. Beyond 1080p.

Zero_epyon

Well right now the purpose of these larger discs is to store 3D movies. (which by their nature take up twice as much space as a conventional HD quality movie)

I see these sizes being beneficial for the next leap in resolution. Beyond 1080p.

Zero_epyon

You know that the only reason we ever needed a blue ray disc was because of the uncompressed video.

I have 1080P movies that are over 2 hours long and only take up 5 gigs.

Final Fantasy takes up 6 times that in all of its cutscenes.

Compressed video if done correctly will not show any lose in detail.

**** Support is that - it means that I can still buy games for the system, or buy the hardware. Sony dropped the PS1 pretty damned fast after they released the PS2, and the only reason that they're still supporting the ps2 now is because they were insane with what they charge(d) for a PS3. And now that they have stopped supporting to make feature-complete ps3's, I forsee they will be stuck supporting the PS2 and PS3 for a while, especially with the abortion that the PSP came to be.codezer0

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

:?

[QUOTE="JuarN18"]

128 Gigs are really necessary?

Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="codezer0"] **** Support is that - it means that I can still buy games for the system, or buy the hardware. Sony dropped the PS1 pretty damned fast after they released the PS2, and the only reason that they're still supporting the ps2 now is because they were insane with what they charge(d) for a PS3. And now that they have stopped supporting to make feature-complete ps3's, I forsee they will be stuck supporting the PS2 and PS3 for a while, especially with the abortion that the PSP came to be.Persistantthug

Wait...What?

:?

"We're in it for the long haul," sony sez... :roll: So much for that lie. And this is why Sony should never have been allowed to win a format war. Their revisioning fetish ensures they will screw over EVERYONE. :|codezer0

where's the lie?

there's a difference between misinterpreting and thinking its a lie

i guess TC linked the wrong article .................... on OP, the PS3 is profitable now, it has flood of games coming, 3D, Move and it already has bluray ..... i can't see Sony giving up on it any time soon .

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]Who said games will surpass the 50GB mark? Did you know that games like MGS4 are the only games to actually need a BD DL? By the time we need a disc that large it'd be Next Gen anyway. What you also need to learn is that Generations last 6 years. Sony supports consoles for 4 years after. Support time = Life Span. Next Gen =/= Life span.codezer0

The PSOne wasn't discontinued until March 2006, like 4 months after the launch of the 360. :|

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]Who said games will surpass the 50GB mark? Did you know that games like MGS4 are the only games to actually need a BD DL? By the time we need a disc that large it'd be Next Gen anyway. What you also need to learn is that Generations last 6 years. Sony supports consoles for 4 years after. Support time = Life Span. Next Gen =/= Life span.codezer0

Sony kept supporting the PS1 until 2006 in the US, and I saw the console and new PS1 titles released several years into the PS2's lifespan. Granted, most of them were sports games, but the point remains that Sony did not ditch the PS1 the second the PS2 came out.

As for the PS2, support has started to wane on it now that most developers have moved to the PS3 and 360. Most of the new releases are sports games, licensed titles, and games that finally made it over from Japan. The PS2 is a legacy system, and I do see it being discontinued in the next few years now that the PS3 is gaining momentum.

Also, the PSP is not a failure. Anything that can sell over 60 million units in a market dominated by Nintendo is pretty impressive.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

I see these sizes being beneficial for the next leap in resolution. Beyond 1080p.

ThePlothole

Well right now the purpose of these larger discs is to store 3D movies. (which by their nature take up twice as much space as a conventional HD quality movie)

"The Blu-ray Disc Association is stepping away from movie distribution with the latest Blu-ray format, instead focusing on data backup and recording of high-definition broadcast content, the association said on Wednesday.

The existing storage capacity of 50GB in existing Blu-ray discs is also enough to fit most high-definition movies, he said. That capacity will also be enough to fit 3D movies based on the Blu-ray 3D format, he said. There is a bigger need for higher-capacity disks to back up data, Parsons said. Hard drives can fail, and BDXL discs can preserve data for decades." [link]

If you had read the article before running here to post it you was have noticed it isn't mentioned that it will be for film or games, it implies they will be for extra storage anybody saving files to disc. I doubt they are about to send people out to buy yet another bluray player just yet.

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

Persistantthug

You do realize Blu-Ray is used for more than PS3 games, right TC? They are used as storage media in CCTV systems, data back-up in numerous businesses etc. The link also says it likely won't be used in the PS3, as it'll need new players to read it (it states even firmware updates won't help).

On top of that, this is by the Blu-Ray association, which is a number of businesses pushing for larger capacity, not just Sony.

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

codezer0

I seen PS1's in my local Walmart for 3 (just short of 4) years after the PS2 launch...

they had it packaged like this

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

codezer0

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

codezer0

i honestly dont know if youre serious....

And it's threads like this that make me wonder why I even come to System Wars. Oh the ignorance.

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

codezer0

The PS1 wasn't discontinued until the release ofd the PS3 (link). Production still continued well into the PS2's life cycle, and up until the release of the PS3.

What a company does regarding it's stocking of systems is up to the company. They can choose not to carry a product, though I believe you are probably just making this up.

And it's threads like this that make me wonder why I even come to System Wars. Oh the ignorance.

Phoenix534

Local stores not ordering new PS1 stock doesn't mean Sony stopped supporting them Those stores just wanted to sell the new hot thing, which was the PS2. Zero_epyon

The PS1 wasn't discontinued until the release ofd the PS3 (link). Production still continued well into the PS2's life cycle, and up until the release of the PS3.

What a company does regarding it's stocking of systems is up to the company. They can choose not to carry a product, though I believe you are probably just making this up.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

The PS1 wasn't discontinued until the release ofd the PS3 (link). Production still continued well into the PS2's life cycle, and up until the release of the PS3.

What a company does regarding it's stocking of systems is up to the company. They can choose not to carry a product, though I believe you are probably just making this up.

codezer0

It's the truth because you say so? I showed a link stating production wasn't stopped until release of the PS3. So far, you've provided nothing, so I don't understand where you're going with this.

Don't support Sony, i'm sure they won't mind :?

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

Wait...What?

I don't think you looked that up....is that right?

codezer0

I do expect it to be supported till 2016.

128 GB blueray. Isn't that big of a deal right now. Majority of stuff is 720p currently.

Most games are around the 7-10 gig for consoles.

untill we start going above 1080p resolution its not a huge deal

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

The PS1 wasn't discontinued until the release ofd the PS3 (link). Production still continued well into the PS2's life cycle, and up until the release of the PS3.

What a company does regarding it's stocking of systems is up to the company. They can choose not to carry a product, though I believe you are probably just making this up.

codezer0

It's the truth because you say so? I showed a link stating production wasn't stopped until release of the PS3. So far, you've provided nothing, so I don't understand where you're going with this.

Don't support Sony, i'm sure they won't mind :?

lundy86_4

You obviously didn't look or you live in a remote, obscure place. I bought a PS1 in 2001, a year after the PS2 launched and saw it at my local store for many years after that. chathuranga

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]Local stores not ordering new PS1 stock doesn't mean Sony stopped supporting them Those stores just wanted to sell the new hot thing, which was the PS2. codezer0