Thats it, I have to be honest about Gears now...

Since Epic's shooter was supposed to be the next big thing, I went along with it, and REALLY tried to love it. There are great things about Gears...mainly in the graphics department. However, the vast plethora of problems that can be found on that disk is just...unacceptable. I will give you a break down of what is wrong with the single, and multiplayer.

Single Player: Short, easy, and glitch ridden. Ones that can kill your progress in a level, and other annoying bugs, and bizarre glitches. Why? It was in production for almost three years! The story is totally terrible, it takes useless twists and turns, and still manages to a second thought. The characters are pretty generic (the exception being Dom). Every line out of Cole's mouth made me want to shut my console off. The unexciting cliff hanger found at the end isn't very desireable either...

Multiplayer: When people complain about the bullet lag...they arn't lying. The host advantage is very real as well. It makes things constantly unbalanced, and frustraiting. The modes seen here are basically identical...the exception being Annex. Again...glitches, glitches, glitches, and cheating to boot. There really isn't a single match where you JUST have a good game, or a good time.

Man, what a trainwreak of a game. :(

Interesting... I take your opinions seriously. Hm.WeeWeeJumbo

Multiplayer: When people complain about the bullet lag...they arn't lying. The host advantage is very real as well. It makes things constantly unbalanced, and frustraiting. The modes seen here are basically identical...the exception being Annex. Again...glitches, glitches, glitches, and cheating to boot. There really isn't a single match where you JUST have a good game, or a good time. NAPK1NS

You read my mind, Epic screwed up major with online. Not that its not good, no far from it, Gears is the best game of 2006 and has the best multiplayer. But the online has major flaws after you get through everything.

Yup, your 100% right, i still play it every once in a while though.

Well not all opinions can be right. Such as yours on this particular topic.

And what kinda of stuff is that when you said you wanted to like it, you either like it or you don't.

I think you don't know what you want and you are punishing us for it.

Since Epic's shooter was supposed to be the next big thing, I went along with it, and REALLY tried to love it. There are great things about Gears...mainly in the graphics department. However, the vast plethora of problems that can be found on that disk is just...unacceptable. I will give you a break down of what is wrong with the single, and multiplayer.

Single Player: Short, easy, and glitch ridden. Ones that can kill your progress in a level, and other annoying bugs, and bizarre glitches. Why? It was in production for almost three years! The story is totally terrible, it takes useless twists and turns, and still manages to a second thought. The characters are pretty generic (the exception being Dom). Every line out of Cole's mouth made me want to shut my console off. The unexciting cliff hanger found at the end isn't very desireable either...

Multiplayer: When people complain about the bullet lag...they arn't lying. The host advantage is very real as well. It makes things constantly unbalanced, and frustraiting. The modes seen here are basically identical...the exception being Annex. Again...glitches, glitches, glitches, and cheating to boot. There really isn't a single match where you JUST have a good game, or a good time.

Man, what a trainwreak of a game. :(

NAPK1NS

I'm primarly a sony guy. But I bought my xbox360 for Gears of war, and never regretted it.

Single Player: Short, easy, and glitch ridden. Ones that can kill your progress in a level, and other annoying bugs, and bizarre glitches. Why? It was in production for almost three years! The story is totally terrible, it takes useless twists and turns, and still manages to a second thought. The characters are pretty generic (the exception being Dom). Every line out of Cole's mouth made me want to shut my console off. The unexciting cliff hanger found at the end isn't very desireable either...NAPK1NS

Everything there is 100% incorrect. Everything. I know your problem though, you don't appreciate quality.

I myself find it hard to believe that it scored a 9.6 GOTY here on GS.foxhound_fox

Its on more then just GS.

Gears could have been so much more if there had been attention payed to things like story and character development... but no, Epic decided it just wanted to deliver a casual action-fest to satiate the palates of the casual 360 gamers. The story had so much potential and yet they hardly ever explained ANYTHING. If Epic had spent another year expanding and polishing the game I think it could have been so much better, I myself find it hard to believe that it scored a 9.6 GOTY here on GS.foxhound_fox

Dude its a trilogy , I'm sure the story will be fleshed out.

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"] Single Player: Short, easy, and glitch ridden. Ones that can kill your progress in a level, and other annoying bugs, and bizarre glitches. Why? It was in production for almost three years! The story is totally terrible, it takes useless twists and turns, and still manages to a second thought. The characters are pretty generic (the exception being Dom). Every line out of Cole's mouth made me want to shut my console off. The unexciting cliff hanger found at the end isn't very desireable either...Bansheesdie

Everything there is 100% incorrect. Everything. I know your problem though, you don't appreciate quality.

What were the glitches in the single player campaign?

Because I've played through the campaign countless times and almost never had a problem.

Sure the story is lame, but who buys Gears and expects a superb story.

The fact is that the game is refreshing and fun and addicting. Those are some of the main reasons I play games.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Gears could have been so much more if there had been attention payed to things like story and character development... but no, Epic decided it just wanted to deliver a casual action-fest to satiate the palates of the casual 360 gamers. The story had so much potential and yet they hardly ever explained ANYTHING. If Epic had spent another year expanding and polishing the game I think it could have been so much better, I myself find it hard to believe that it scored a 9.6 GOTY here on GS.-Ninja_Dog-

Dude its a trilogy , I'm sure the story will be fleshed out.

Also, those who complain about host just suck and use it as something to complain about or as an excuse for losing.

There is hardly any cheating that goes on in Gears, and those who do are easily suspended from XBL.

Halo hasan equal amount of host advantage, if not more...but I'm sure you love Halo...

Since Epic's shooter was supposed to be the next big thing, I went along with it, and REALLY tried to love it. There are great things about Gears...mainly in the graphics department. However, the vast plethora of problems that can be found on that disk is just...unacceptable. I will give you a break down of what is wrong with the single, and multiplayer.

Single Player: Short, easy, and glitch ridden. Ones that can kill your progress in a level, and other annoying bugs, and bizarre glitches. Why? It was in production for almost three years! The story is totally terrible, it takes useless twists and turns, and still manages to a second thought. The characters are pretty generic (the exception being Dom). Every line out of Cole's mouth made me want to shut my console off. The unexciting cliff hanger found at the end isn't very desireable either...

Multiplayer: When people complain about the bullet lag...they arn't lying. The host advantage is very real as well. It makes things constantly unbalanced, and frustraiting. The modes seen here are basically identical...the exception being Annex. Again...glitches, glitches, glitches, and cheating to boot. There really isn't a single match where you JUST have a good game, or a good time.

Man, what a trainwreak of a game. :(

NAPK1NS

agree

What were the glitches in the single player campaign?

Because I've played through the campaign countless times and almost never had a problem.

Sure the story is lame, but who buys Gears and expects a superb story.

The fact is that the game is refreshing and fun and addicting. Those are some of the main reasons I play games.

_en1gma_

¬ My friend dissappeared three times in co-op.

¬ The beserker got stuck in one of the smashable pillars...twice. Both times I had to restart the game because I coulden't get that piece of crap out.

¬ My friend said my lancer was making pistol shooting noises in co-op.

¬ Sometimes when I would enter aim mode, a arc redicle would span out from my gun, liek I was about to throw a granade...

¬ I fell right through the floor, and into a white abyss in Act one.

¬ The music sometimes won't stop playing, the loop will just continue and continue...

Also, I WAS especting an amazing story line. Why? Because Epic promiced me a heart wrenching tale of one mans redemption. Yeah, never got that. :|

Also, those who complain about host just suck and use it as something to complain about or as an excuse for losing.

There is hardly any cheating that goes on in Gears, and those who do are easily suspended from XBL.

Halo hasan equal amount of host advantage, if not more...but I'm sure you love Halo...

_en1gma_

No, Halo does not have an equal amount of Host advantage at all. That is completely false. Gears has the worst h.a. of any game i've ever played on live.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

What were the glitches in the single player campaign?

Because I've played through the campaign countless times and almost never had a problem.

Sure the story is lame, but who buys Gears and expects a superb story.

The fact is that the game is refreshing and fun and addicting. Those are some of the main reasons I play games.

NAPK1NS

¬ My friend dissappeared three times in co-op.

¬ The beserker got stuck in one of the smashable pillars...twice. Both times I had to restart the game because I coulden't get that piece of crap out.

¬ My friend said my lancer was making pistol shooting noises in co-op.

¬ Sometimes when I would enter aim mode, a arc redicle would span out from my gun, liek I was about to throw a granade...

¬ I fell right through the floor, and into a white abyss in Act one.

¬ The music sometimes won't stop playing, the loop will just continue and continue...

Also, I WAS especting an amazing story line. Why? Because Epic promiced me a heart wrenching tale of one mans redemption. Yeah, never got that. :|

- I never had a friend disappear in co-op. And I guarantee I've played much more of it than you.

- Never had that happen...

- a lancer making pistol noises? not game-altering

- the nade arc reticule happens every now and then but you can get rid of that problem in a second

- never had that happen. maybe you were over an emergence hole?

- never had a music loop problem...

I wasn't expecting an amazing storyline and still had a blast playing through it and playing through it some more with several friends...

And the multiplayer was addicting and fun enough for me to get a world rank of 200 and 20K kills...

Gears is fun and refreshing. Just my opinion..

The PC will get the superior version. MetroidPrimus1

That Brumak was the hotness. Wonder what happens when it dies?

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Also, those who complain about host just suck and use it as something to complain about or as an excuse for losing.

There is hardly any cheating that goes on in Gears, and those who do are easily suspended from XBL.

Halo hasan equal amount of host advantage, if not more...but I'm sure you love Halo...

Ninja-Vox

No, Halo does not have an equal amount of Host advantage at all. That is completely false. Gears has the worst h.a. of any game i've ever played on live.

Yes it does when you get into more hardcore matches.

Four-shot cross map BR.

Instant melee.

Godly shotgun.

No false shots.

Explosion bounce.

I've played Halo 2 for over 10,000 hours and have over 300k kills in it overall and I've played Gears for a ridiculous amount as well. Halo's host advantage is just as bad.

Yes it does when you get into more hardcore matches.

Four-shot cross map BR.

Instant melee.

Godly shotgun.

No false shots.

Explosion bounce.

I've played Halo 2 for over 10,000 hours and have over 500k kills in it overall and I've played Gears for a ridiculous amount as well. Halo's host advantage is just as bad.

_en1gma_

Sorry but no, it just isn't. When i host games in Gears, i automatically win. Every time. And dont say "you must be playing against people who suck" because EVERYONE doesn't suck. Bullet lag, glitches, and host advantage are atrocious on Gears of War. And epic have done nothing about it.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Yes it does when you get into more hardcore matches.

Four-shot cross map BR.

Instant melee.

Godly shotgun.

No false shots.

Explosion bounce.

I've played Halo 2 for over 10,000 hours and have over 500k kills in it overall and I've played Gears for a ridiculous amount as well. Halo's host advantage is just as bad.

Ninja-Vox

Sorry but no, it just isn't. When i host games in Gears, i automatically win. Every time. And dont say "you must be playing against people who suck" because EVERYONE doesn't suck. Bullet lag, glitches, and host advantage are atrocious on Gears of War. And epic have done nothing about it.

I barely ever hosted in Gears and have about a 2.0 kill/death ratio.

Sure Gears has a bad host advantage, but so does Halo.

And it isn't even as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Also, those who complain about host just suck and use it as something to complain about or as an excuse for losing.

There is hardly any cheating that goes on in Gears, and those who do are easily suspended from XBL.

Halo hasan equal amount of host advantage, if not more...but I'm sure you love Halo...

_en1gma_

No, Halo does not have an equal amount of Host advantage at all. That is completely false. Gears has the worst h.a. of any game i've ever played on live.

Yes it does when you get into more hardcore matches.

Four-shot cross map BR.

Instant melee.

Godly shotgun.

No false shots.

Explosion bounce.

I've played Halo 2 for over 10,000 hours and have over 300k kills in it overall and I've played Gears for a ridiculous amount as well. Halo's host advantage is just as bad.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Also, those who complain about host just suck and use it as something to complain about or as an excuse for losing.

There is hardly any cheating that goes on in Gears, and those who do are easily suspended from XBL.

Halo hasan equal amount of host advantage, if not more...but I'm sure you love Halo...

yodariquo

No, Halo does not have an equal amount of Host advantage at all. That is completely false. Gears has the worst h.a. of any game i've ever played on live.

Yes it does when you get into more hardcore matches.

Four-shot cross map BR.

Instant melee.

Godly shotgun.

No false shots.

Explosion bounce.

I've played Halo 2 for over 10,000 hours and have over 300k kills in it overall and I've played Gears for a ridiculous amount as well. Halo's host advantage is just as bad.

OK. Then maybe 7500 hours total.

I overestimated...

Let's just say I've played a ridiculous amount. .

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

Yes it does when you get into more hardcore matches.

Four-shot cross map BR.

Instant melee.

Godly shotgun.

No false shots.

Explosion bounce.

I've played Halo 2 for over 10,000 hours and have over 500k kills in it overall and I've played Gears for a ridiculous amount as well. Halo's host advantage is just as bad.

THETRUEDOZAH

Sorry but no, it just isn't. When i host games in Gears, i automatically win. Every time. And dont say "you must be playing against people who suck" because EVERYONE doesn't suck. Bullet lag, glitches, and host advantage are atrocious on Gears of War. And epic have done nothing about it.

I barely ever hosted in Gears and have about a 2.0 kill/death ratio.

Sure Gears has a bad host advantage, but so does Halo.

And it isn't even as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

I think Gears is tremendously overrated. Fanboys hold it up like some kind of holy grail for the 360, when I honestly haven't played it in a long time because the glitches and host advantage took all the fun away. Meanwhile Epic does all these stupid patches to make your guy stick to the walls or whatever, WHY DON'T YOU FIX THE #(%*#$)@ GLITCHES EPIC!!! then try to rip us off with all the DLC, but first fix your broken game you #$(#)@&#$s!

I've heard complaints about "host" in Halo every day and I still do.

I love Gears. It made it to my top 10 list.slothboyadvance

I agree, the story was solid, but the gameplay owned. I still play it with friends.

well, I never noticed it. The host advantage in Gears simply could not be ignored, though. It's too obvious.

THETRUEDOZAH

It's obvious but doesn't make the host superhuman and impossible to kill.

Bullet lag and host advantage are big, blatant problems. Fact. To say otherwise is to be in denial. To compare host advantage on Gears to halo is beyond my comprehension.Ninja-Vox

Because you are a noob to Halo?

Trust me. When you get to harder matches in Halo the host advantage is ridiculous.

And once again, the host on Gears is there and is obvious, but it doesn't make the host a crazy superhuman.

I can't count how many times I was called host in Gears when I wasn't. It is an excuse and isn't a reason to dislike the multiplayer. Just like Halo.

[QUOTE="THETRUEDOZAH"]

well, I never noticed it. The host advantage in Gears simply could not be ignored, though. It's too obvious.

_en1gma_

It's obvious but doesn't make the host superhuman and impossible to kill.

If you're already good at the game, you are pretty much unstoppable if you're on host. You're no easier or harder to kill, but it is so much easier for you to kill everyone else. Like i said, if i host a match, i win. Always.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Bullet lag and host advantage are big, blatant problems. Fact. To say otherwise is to be in denial. To compare host advantage on Gears to halo is beyond my comprehension._en1gma_

Because you are a noob to Halo?

Trust me. When you get to harder matches in Halo the host advantage is ridiculous.

And once again, the host on Gears is there and is obvious, but it doesn't make the host a crazy superhuman.

I can't count how many times I was called host in Gears when I wasn't. It is an excuse and isn't a reason to dislike the multiplayer. Just like Halo.

No, i'm not a noob. And stop throwing around "but i'm teh hardcore!" as if that somehow elevates your opinion over everybody else's. I dont care about "the harder matches..." or "the hardcore players." I played Halo every day for years and loved it. In gears, i win every time i host. Therefore, as far as i'm concerned, Gears is much worse than Halo in terms of host advantage.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="THETRUEDOZAH"]

well, I never noticed it. The host advantage in Gears simply could not be ignored, though. It's too obvious.

Ninja-Vox

It's obvious but doesn't make the host superhuman and impossible to kill.

If you're already good at the game, you are pretty much unstoppable if you're on host. You're no easier or harder to kill, but it is so much easier for you to kill everyone else. Like i said, if i host a match, i win. Always.

Just like Halo. :)

Do you host by yourself?