The 360 has exclusives and XBLA is proof of this which destroys psn

Yeah between the games on XBLA and PSN, the XBLA has a much better library then the PSN from what I seen. I would get a 360 just for XBLA.

the xbla is one reason i got a 360.

No doubt I've enjoyed XBLA titles more than PSN titles overall. The only ones I really enjoyed on PSN were Super Stardust HD and Flower, whereas titles like Geo Wars, Super Meat Boy and Limbo were all excellent. But still, I'd rather play the retail releases.

I don't think system wars counts XBLA or PSN games... but I have seen quite a few threads favoring both systems add them to line-up lists.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

That's cute but for the purpose of this discussion is silly. I might as well go dig into the games on demand section for the 360. Too bad I'm not talking about old retail games that I can purchase in the digital space.

T-razor1

If any of those games were ever on an Xbox console they would've been placed in the "Games on Demand" section NOT the "arcade" section and thus I don't see the point of you listing those games. It's not the same thing.

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Wut? if you want to talk about what the console provides as exclusives no matter what then you have to include everything and not be arbitrarily nitpicky which is usually what lems do in this matters. Until of course the PS3 starts beating them in their own game and then they start changing the rules again.kuraimen

If any of those games were ever on an Xbox console they would've been placed in the "Games on Demand" section NOT the "arcade" section and thus I don't see the point of you listing those games. It's not the same thing.

Lol why would I do that? They are not "arcade" titles and are in that section for a reason.

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Torchlight isn't an exclusive.

Why is that always overlooked?

T-razor1

Here we go..

Look it's a console exclusive to the 360 meaning you won't find it on the ps3. Better? If you want to bring PCs into it have at it but for me I'm really just talking about the consoles.

Isn't this no longer "allowed" on System Wars? If not, it doesn't matter anyways; adding console in front of it doesn't make it exclusive.

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Torchlight isn't an exclusive.

Why is that always overlooked?

T-razor1

Here we go..

Look it's a console exclusive to the 360 meaning you won't find it on the ps3. Better? If you want to bring PCs into it have at it but for me I'm really just talking about the consoles.

Don't call it exclusive then, its not exclusive to 360 because you can play it on multiple platforms.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

I'm glad Kevin-V enjoyed the game, but just remember that's just one fella's opinion. ;)

Edit:

Also, XBLA sure is full of quality content. I just wish I had the monies to dive into it all.

T-razor1

...and that's why I used the smilies :). I was just poking fun at another thread regarding C2 where some members here were holding onto his word like a god because he thought UC2 and KZ3 looked better even though his opinion was one of several others across the net that disagreed with him.

What makes games look good is not just graphics, its the combinations of animatinos, cinematics, physics, art and modelling. C2 may have better graphics but overall visuals pale compared to UC2. Thats what Kevin was alluding to but i guess fanobys are to narrrow minded to get it.

I'm glad Kevin-V enjoyed the game, but just remember that's just one fella's opinion. ;)

Edit:

Also, XBLA sure is full of quality content. I just wish I had the monies to dive into it all.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Sorry, PSN has better games than XBL IMO.Stevo_the_gamer

I don't understand the argument that downloadable games don't count. If its a price thing, then that's just stupid. It should count. Kevin V said Vampire Smiles was his favorite game this year, including retail titles. There are tons of great games on PSN and XBLA and I don't see why the exclusives shouldn't be counted.

well since xbox live cost $60 a year one would think it would destroy psn that is free

"console exclusive", "...better because a GameSpot reviewer says so" :lol: this thread is just not good.

"console exclusive", "...better because a GameSpot reviewer says so" :lol: this thread is just not good.

Bigboi500

well since xbox live cost $60 a year one would think it would destroy psn that is free

Cow_tipping

That $60 fee is for Facebook and Hulu, features the PS3 has for free through the Opera Web Browser.

[QUOTE="Cow_tipping"]

well since xbox live cost $60 a year one would think it would destroy psn that is free

Solquid_Snake

That $60 fee is for Facebook and Hulu, features the PS3 has for free through the Opera Web Browser.

Now that it's getting the attention it deserves, will people start agreeing that The Dishwasher should be the 360s Mortal Kombat exclusive character? I'd love to see him as future DLC.

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="Cow_tipping"]

well since xbox live cost $60 a year one would think it would destroy psn that is free

Ravensmash

That $60 fee is for Facebook and Hulu, features the PS3 has for free through the Opera Web Browser.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you had to pay for something that is free elsewhere.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

That $60 fee is for Facebook and Hulu, features the PS3 has for free through the Opera Web Browser.

Solquid_Snake

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you had to pay for something that is free elsewhere.

I don't really think it is fair to count the 360's XBLA lineup as full games. It isn't quite the same as a full retail game. What I don't understand is why PC is always brought up in these threads. Yes this is System Wars but when you are comparing 360 and PS3 exclusives then PC has no place in this thread. Cows brag all the time about their "amazing graphics" on their PS3 but at the same time those graphics are nothing compared to the PC.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

That $60 fee is for Facebook and Hulu, features the PS3 has for free through the Opera Web Browser.

Solquid_Snake

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you had to pay for something that is free elsewhere.

You can play halo reach, gears 2, and forza for free somewhere else? Where may I ask?

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Torchlight isn't an exclusive.

Why is that always overlooked?

T-razor1

Here we go..

Look it's a console exclusive to the 360 meaning you won't find it on the ps3. Better? If you want to bring PCs into it have at it but for me I'm really just talking about the consoles.

If you have bought a computer in the past 5 to 8 years it will play Torchlight.. Its not a exclusive.

[QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

[QUOTE="dvalo9"]Was expecting this thread with the recent dish water review, face it they don't count if thats the logic then explain MGS,FFVII and all the high rated ps1 games available on psn.kuraimen

Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII are bad examples because they can be played on PC.

I don't really think it is fair to count the 360's XBLA lineup as full games. It isn't quite the same as a full retail game. What I don't understand is why PC is always brought up in these threads. Yes this is System Wars but when you are comparing 360 and PS3 exclusives then PC has no place in this thread. Cows brag all the time about their "amazing graphics" on their PS3 but at the same time those graphics are nothing compared to the PC.

Casboof

[QUOTE="dvalo9"]Was expecting this thread with the recent dish water review, face it they don't count if thats the logic then explain MGS,FFVII and all the high rated ps1 games available on psn.Solquid_Snake

Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII are bad examples because they can be played on PC.

I don't really think it is fair to count the 360's XBLA lineup as full games. It isn't quite the same as a full retail game. What I don't understand is why PC is always brought up in these threads. Yes this is System Wars but when you are comparing 360 and PS3 exclusives then PC has no place in this thread. Cows brag all the time about their "amazing graphics" on their PS3 but at the same time those graphics are nothing compared to the PC.

Casboof

I don't get this though. Many are just as good as full retail games, if not better. For example Kevin said Dishwasher: VS is his favourite game so far this year which includes games like:

• LBP2
• Crysis 2
• Killzone 3
• Dead Space 2
• Bulletstorm
• Dragon Age 2
• Yakuza 4

Personally, I'm having much more fun with TD:VS than with any of the above (Haven't tried Yakuza 4, but I doubt I'd like it near as much). That doesn't just go for DS:VS either. Look at games like LIMBO, Braid, Castle Crashers, Dishwasher Dead Samurai & Super Meat Boy as well. I've had more fun with those than 80% of the retail games I've played in the last two years.

[QUOTE="Rican-Prodigy"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

It's funny- I don't own an Xbox 360 but can play it. Therefore it isn't exclusive.

JLF1

I have a backward-compadible PS3, can I bring up every PS1 and PS2 game when I compare PS3 vs 360?

As far as I'm concerned yes, absolutely. Although you should make sure and specify you have a backward compatible PS3 when you do so, since that actually accounts for a minority of PS3's whereas console exclusives can be played on all 360s. Just like X-Box originals, Indie Games, and the 400 or so X-Box games that are backward compatible, PSN PS1 downloadable titles, etc. shouldn't be forgotten when comparing the two. Why should any features or games that you can use your console to play, that the other console cannot play, be ignored when comparing the two?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Solquid_Snake"]

Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII are bad examples because they can be played on PC.

clone01

Just like you need a 360 and a PC to equal a PS3... or post on GS...

SW... where 1 plus 1 = banana :roll:

Why are you people so obsessed over what Kevin like and says. :? I agree though, that Vampire game looks sick. millerlight89

Well this is System Wars where Gamespots word seems to be taken as Gospel. Usually we would just say Gamespot gave it a 9.0, but as Kevin has posted in this topic a few times we've just been saying Kevin instead. So basically, what you're saying is why are people obsessed with what Gamespot likes & says? I agree, but again, this is System Wars & it seems to be the only way to get through to most people here. I mean, would more people be interested in TD:VS if I said it was awesome, or if Gamespot did?

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] And Torchlight, Super Meatboy, etc can also be played on PC.FragTycoon

Just like you need a 360 and a PC to equal a PS3... or post on GS...

SW... where 1 plus 1 = banana :roll:

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] So in other words, you need a PC and a PS3 to equal a 360?clone01

Just like you need a 360 and a PC to equal a PS3... or post on GS...

SW... where 1 plus 1 = banana :roll:

Why do we have to pretend they don't exist?

I have a gaming PC, do I have to negate that fact because it ruins your argument that you have to own a 360 for the novelty games?

If that is the case, address the PS1 library available on PSN/PS3 before we discuss anything else.... we cant count other systems like the PS1 or PC right?

As I'm sure your now seeing the obvious flaw in that argument, you can possible see why I would be moved to include an eye roll as SW accepted form of sarcastic punctuation.

Some of the exclusive arcade games and indie games on Xbox Live are better than some exclusive big budget 360 games like Gears of War 2 for example. On SW arcade and indie games don't mean much even if they are some of the best games on the xbox 360.

Why do we have to pretend they don't exist?

I have a gaming PC, do I have to negate that fact because it ruins your argument that you have to own a 360 for the novelty games?

If that is the case, address the PS1 library available on PSN/PS3 before we discuss anything else.... we cant count other systems like the PS1 or PC right?

As I'm sure your now seeing the obvious flaw in that argument, you can possible see why I would be moved to include an eye roll as SW accepted form of sarcastic punctuation.

FragTycoon

Big difference between acknowledging the system and hiding behind it. Which is something that both PS3 only and 360 only owners seem to do.

Some of the exclusive arcade games and indie games on Xbox Live are better than some exclusive big budget 360 games like Gears of War 2 for example. On SW arcade and indie games don't mean much even if they are some of the best games on the xbox 360.

xOMGITSJASONx

Just to even this out a bit, I think they're a lot better than many PS3 games as well.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]Why do we have to pretend they don't exist?

I have a gaming PC, do I have to negate that fact because it ruins your argument that you have to own a 360 for the novelty games?

If that is the case, address the PS1 library available on PSN/PS3 before we discuss anything else.... we cant count other systems like the PS1 or PC right?

As I'm sure your now seeing the obvious flaw in that argument, you can possible see why I would be moved to include an eye roll as SW accepted form of sarcastic punctuation.

clone01

Big difference between acknowledging the system and hiding behind it. Which is something that both PS3 only and 360 only owners seem to do.

That we can agree on :D

i don't use games as criteria because they are subjective i use functionality, that is not subjective xbl wins.

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Sorry, PSN has better games than XBL IMO.Stevo_the_gamer

i don't use games as criteria because they are subjective i use functionality, that is not subjective xbl wins.

Riverwolf007

That makes no sense, functionally, they work the same.

I guess you just have to close your eye and pretend you are whisked away to XBL land where you have your own separate Internet network that takes over your ISP.

Look at Uncharted 2 and MGS4 and gears of war 2... then look at limbo and braid...campzor

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

They are ignored in the SW world cause according to the rules they dont count as AE,AAE or AAAE. Its sad but true.

T-razor1

But that makes no sense because a game like Limbo scored a 9 here and has a metacritic score of 90. How can one ignore that?

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

They are ignored in the SW world cause according to the rules they dont count as AE,AAE or AAAE. Its sad but true.

T-razor1

But that makes no sense because a game like Limbo scored a 9 here and has a metacritic score of 90. How can one ignore that?

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i don't use games as criteria because they are subjective i use functionality, that is not subjective xbl wins.

FragTycoon

That makes no sense, functionally, they work the same.

I guess you just have to close your eye and pretend you are whisked away to XBL land where you have your own separate Internet network that takes over your ISP.

dl speed on xbl is better.

there is not one single arcade or indie title that does not come with a demo.

i have to use my xbox for netflix a couple of times each week since it won't come up on my ps3.

crazy hackers have targeted psn.

no supervision of the games.

no install step in everything after you dl.

to say they are the same is delusional... no offense.

you may not care about those things but it is added functionality and unquestionably better.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

If any of those games were ever on an Xbox console they would've been placed in the "Games on Demand" section NOT the "arcade" section and thus I don't see the point of you listing those games. It's not the same thing.

T-razor1

Lol why would I do that? They are not "arcade" titles and are in that section for a reason.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i don't use games as criteria because they are subjective i use functionality, that is not subjective xbl wins.

Riverwolf007

That makes no sense, functionally, they work the same.

I guess you just have to close your eye and pretend you are whisked away to XBL land where you have your own separate Internet network that takes over your ISP.

dl speed on xbl is better.

there is not one single arcade or indie title that does not come with a demo.

i have to use my xbox for netflix a couple of times each week since it won't come up on my ps3.

crazy hackers have targeted psn.

no supervision of the games.

no install step in everything after you dl.

to say they are the same is delusional... no offense.

you may not care about those things but it is added functionality and unquestionably better.

[QUOTE="campzor"]Look at Uncharted 2 and MGS4 and gears of war 2... then look at limbo and braid...Stevo_the_gamer