The 360 sold 310,000 last week, outsold the PS3 2:1...

Bren, he didnt say better, he said more, as in quantity! He said, Mass Effect is better, which isnt strictly true because of oblivion.

Look, which ever way you try and do this, the 360 is holding its own at the moment with rpgs. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see MS are trying to get jrpg developers on board to have more of an impact on japan.

Whether they succeed or not in the short term is not going to make microsoft go away. I'm sure 12 months down the line the ps3 will have the better jrpgs. But look at MS 5 years ago and look at them now.

How long do you reckon your beloved jrpg developers are going to stay with sony?

OK, I apologise for going off topic here lol

DAZZER7

um yes he did

1. link? :|

2. funny how the best scoring ps3 exclusive is another "mindless shooter"

3. 360 has way more and better exclusive rpgs than ps3 :|

i really suggest you leave this alone and let me own him because your starting to sound like him yourself. admit ownage?

[QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]Well the PS3 still outsold it worldwide so...100Gamer

which is what matters most.:) being an american i can say we love our mindless shooters, geez. rpgs come 1st for me.

1. link? :|

2. funny how the best scoring ps3 exclusive is another "mindless shooter"

3. 360 has way more and better exclusive rpgs than ps3 :|

^^^^^^ im really having to work hard for this ownage, but its so worth is since he said i was owned because of blue dragon, LOL WTH?

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

your kinda new so ill take it easy on you. i never said i didnt like shooters smart guy. and the 360 has way more and better exlcusive rpgs? lol name them, lets see me and um ES oh wait thats coming to ps3! the ps3 will have the best rpgs sorry.

Bren128

lol Mass Effect is better than any exclusive rpgs on ps3, you just got owned

um you said it had way more, you just got owned.

360 has Eternal sonota, Mass effect, Blue dragon, and Oblivion while PS3 only has Oblivion. stop owning yourself

the ps3 has more rpgs then just oblivion. Heard of folklore newbie? now this is sweet sweet ownage, now go account suicide PLEASE.

lmao if you're so against me putting up blue dragon then why did u mention floplore? self-owned :lol:

[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]Well the PS3 still outsold it worldwide so...Bren128

which is what matters most.:) being an american i can say we love our mindless shooters, geez. rpgs come 1st for me.

1. link? :|

2. funny how the best scoring ps3 exclusive is another "mindless shooter"

3. 360 has way more and better exclusive rpgs than ps3 :|

^^^^^^ im really having to work hard for this ownage, but its so worth is since he said i was owned because of blue dragon, LOL WTH?

glad to say your hard work paid off man, lol. sometimes people should really think before they post.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]Well the PS3 still outsold it worldwide so...Bren128

which is what matters most.:) being an american i can say we love our mindless shooters, geez. rpgs come 1st for me.

1. link? :|

2. funny how the best scoring ps3 exclusive is another "mindless shooter"

3. 360 has way more and better exclusive rpgs than ps3 :|

^^^^^^ im really having to work hard for this ownage, but its so worth is since he said i was owned because of blue dragon, LOL WTH?

i like how u ignore the rest of the games i mentioned. stop being delusional :lol:

I can do the same thing... does that make me cooler? No

that's why I didnt for the most part name obsure artists I love

kcpp2b

:? I wasn't trying to sound cool just to see if someone would say "Oh yeah I bet I could" and then I could list them and they'd be like "I don't know many of those bands" and I'd reply "Haha pwned! Now give me a cookie!".

no offense man but nobody artists are that way for a reason.......................gues you actually could take offense at that

Serraph105

That people don't listen to thrash or power metal anymore?

Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.DaysAirlines

No. Less and Less XBox 360's are getting RROD now that M$ has put in some new hardware to help eliminate the issue. Good try though. I saw stacks and stacks of PS3's at stores during Black Friday. Most of them were 40GB versions. They probably sold out in Europe though.

OK bren, have it your way..

If you add up the total number of rpgs on the 360 compared to the ps3 then the 360 wins on quantity.

Now if you want to compare exclusive rpgs (the only real way to assess which systemhasbetter!)then the 360 has the highest rated rpg in Mass Effect. Either way, you havent owned him.

Bren, I do make mistakes from time to time and I do have to admit ownage by not reading someones post properly or replying to quickly and getting my facts wrong but not this time mate.

I'm sorry but....100gamer got the better of you lol

Bren!......BREN?

...........

*Shrugs*

He's gone!

OK bren, have it your way..

If you add up the total number of rpgs on the 360 compared to the ps3 then the 360 wins on quantity.

Now if you want to compare exclusive rpgs (the only real way to assess which systemhasbetter!)then the 360 has the highest rated rpg in Mass Effect. Either way, you havent owned him.

Bren, I do make mistakes from time to time and I do have to admit ownage by not reading someones post properly or replying to quickly and getting my facts wrong but not this time mate.

I'm sorry but....100gamer got the better of you lol

DAZZER7

how? he said that the 360 had way more and better rpgs? way more isnt 1 rpg??? Because the ps3 is getting eternal sonata so that makes the amount of rpgs on the 360 thats arent on the ps3 two. How in the hell is that way more? The 360 has one more exclusive rpg then the ps3, dude is there something im missing? mass effect and BD = way more then folklore? wth?

and your not going to admit ownage but you were wrong? clearly? you said that he didnt say something in which in fact he did say...

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]Well the PS3 still outsold it worldwide so...100Gamer

which is what matters most.:) being an american i can say we love our mindless shooters, geez. rpgs come 1st for me.

1. link? :|

2. funny how the best scoring ps3 exclusive is another "mindless shooter"

3. 360 has way more and better exclusive rpgs than ps3 :|

^^^^^^ im really having to work hard for this ownage, but its so worth is since he said i was owned because of blue dragon, LOL WTH?

i like how u ignore the rest of the games i mentioned. stop being delusional :lol:

LOL you only MENTIONED 3 EXCLUSIVE RPGS!!! ONE of which is going to the PS3! LMAO WTF??? are you messing with me man? when someone says way more, im think they mean like 4 or more good rpgs.....

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]Well the PS3 still outsold it worldwide so...exiledsnake

which is what matters most.:) being an american i can say we love our mindless shooters, geez. rpgs come 1st for me.

1. link? :|

2. funny how the best scoring ps3 exclusive is another "mindless shooter"

3. 360 has way more and better exclusive rpgs than ps3 :|

^^^^^^ im really having to work hard for this ownage, but its so worth is since he said i was owned because of blue dragon, LOL WTH?

glad to say your hard work paid off man, lol. sometimes people should really think before they post.

lol thanks man.

Bren!......BREN?

...........

*Shrugs*

He's gone!

DAZZER7

im here man, i argue until the end.

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

your kinda new so ill take it easy on you. i never said i didnt like shooters smart guy. and the 360 has way more and better exlcusive rpgs? lol name them, lets see me and um ES oh wait thats coming to ps3! the ps3 will have the best rpgs sorry.

100Gamer

lol Mass Effect is better than any exclusive rpgs on ps3, you just got owned

um you said it had way more, you just got owned.

360 has Eternal sonota, Mass effect, Blue dragon, and Oblivion while PS3 only has Oblivion. stop owning yourself

the ps3 has more rpgs then just oblivion. Heard of folklore newbie? now this is sweet sweet ownage, now go account suicide PLEASE.

lmao if you're so against me putting up blue dragon then why did u mention floplore? self-owned :lol:

i mentioned folklore because you said the only rpg on the ps3 was oblivion.:| Also, Folklore>>>BD. you self owned yourself by saying the ps3 only had oblivion, which shows you dont know what in the hell your talking about.

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.DaysAirlines

How do you figure? You've spent another $400 on the same product that has already crapped out on you once before. You're spending more money on the same product over and over again. It's absolutely foolish. And if this one breaks then what? You're going to buy another one? That's $1,200 you've spent on a product that STILL doesn't work. This is what I call the "Wal Mart Mentality". It doesn't matter if it's cheap, if it breaks down you buy another one? You're just throwing good money after bad. It actually costs you MORE in the long run.

There's a saying; Long after the sweet taste of a bargain has faded the bitter taste of poor quality will remain for years to come.

lol according to bren only 4+ is more, so bren, what's 3? an imaginary number?
ES isnt on ps3 yet kid

lol according to bren only 4+ is more, so bren, what's 3? an imaginary number?
ES isnt on ps3 yet kid

100Gamer

ok! name 3 exclusive 360 rpgs that arent going to be on the ps3! oh and they have to be good, you said more AND better! no crappy rpgs! like i said, there arent waaaaay more good rpgs on the 360 then on the ps3.

[QUOTE="100Gamer"]

lol according to bren only 4+ is more, so bren, what's 3? an imaginary number?
ES isnt on ps3 yet kid

Bren128

ok! name 3 exclusive 360 rpgs that arent going to be on the ps3! oh and they have to be good, you said more AND better! no crappy rpgs! like i said, there arent waaaaay more good rpgs on the 360 then on the ps3.

i said 360 has more rpgs than ps3, not will have, stop putting words in my mouth, or r u just that desperate? :lol:

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="100Gamer"]

lol according to bren only 4+ is more, so bren, what's 3? an imaginary number?
ES isnt on ps3 yet kid

100Gamer

ok! name 3 exclusive 360 rpgs that arent going to be on the ps3! oh and they have to be good, you said more AND better! no crappy rpgs! like i said, there arent waaaaay more good rpgs on the 360 then on the ps3.

i said 360 has more rpgs than ps3, not will have, stop putting words in my mouth, or r u just that desperate? :lol:

what? I said name 3 rpgs that are exclusive to the 360 that arent going to be on the ps3 in the future. Can you even read? Your arguements flawed and you know that. The only good exclusive rpgs on the 360 are mass effect and eternal sonata. And eternal sonata is going to the ps3. END OF STORY. YOU WERE WRONG. THE 360 DOESNT HAVE ''WAY MORE AND BETTER RPGS'' what do you not understand about that?

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.CaptainHerlock

How do you figure? You've spent another $400 on the same product that has already crapped out on you once before. You're spending more money on the same product over and over again. It's absolutely foolish. And if this one breaks then what? You're going to buy another one? That's $1,200 you've spent on a product that STILL doesn't work. This is what I call the "Wal Mart Mentality". It doesn't matter if it's cheap, if it breaks down you buy another one? You're just throwing good money after bad. It actually costs you MORE in the long run.

There's a saying; Long after the sweet taste of a bargain has faded the bitter taste of poor quality will remain for years to come.

[QUOTE="CaptainHerlock"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.DaysAirlines

How do you figure? You've spent another $400 on the same product that has already crapped out on you once before. You're spending more money on the same product over and over again. It's absolutely foolish. And if this one breaks then what? You're going to buy another one? That's $1,200 you've spent on a product that STILL doesn't work. This is what I call the "Wal Mart Mentality". It doesn't matter if it's cheap, if it breaks down you buy another one? You're just throwing good money after bad. It actually costs you MORE in the long run.

There's a saying; Long after the sweet taste of a bargain has faded the bitter taste of poor quality will remain for years to come.

You work at Wal Mart?

Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.DaysAirlines

lulz damage control

[QUOTE="tbone802"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]

Is this thread now about hip hop? SWEEET :D This is what I've been listening to recently:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7372917

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=17334462

kcpp2b

Please dont say hip hop and have Lil wayne in ur sig at the same time lol :p

Anywho yeah Im oldschool when hip hop was amazing and not commercial rap now catered for the masses and formulaic as hell

I used to love me some PE, EPMD, Gangstarr, Tribe, Slick Rick, Rakim, Pete Rock & CL smooth etc...

Couldn't agree with that more. Late 80's - late 90's is where hip hop is at.

Sir u have my respect.

When Hip hop was an art form and real not this junk now. I was a TRUE hip hop head man. What happened to it is nasty.

How many of u new guys know who Jeru is or Gangstarr or KRS ONE or Tribe or Slick Rick or Rakim or Pete rock & CL smooth etc...?

I do :D

By the way, listened to Jeru's new album?

Sure, it's no 'Sun Rises In The East', but it's still a pleasure to listen to.

Oh, and Pete Rock is tied with DJ Premier as my second favorite producer.

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]

Wrong on all counts. Even Lupe Fiasco would run circles around that kid. Jay-Z would and so would Lil Wayne.

You can't listen to Lil wayne's mainstream work and judge him based on that. He's famous for what he does off camera really. Like I said I completely disagree so lets agree to disagree.

ToScA-

Nice rebutal:lol:

Sorry, but you're flat out wrong. There's a difference between fact and opinion, and fact is that Mr. Lif is a rising star that despite his underground status has been compared to the likes of KRS One; a feat which Jay-Z and Lupe Fiasco aren't even close
to achieve.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=njgZ_GGYnoo

The day Lupe or Jay-Z can spit like he (and Edan of course; he'd also mop the floor which most of the dreamers you've mentioned) is when hip-hop is back on the track it fell off from in the mid 90s.

And Lil' Wayne is clearly mainstream. That is not only clear by listening to his oh-so-aimed-at-the-overall-public-music, but also the his popularity as well as those he collaborate with.

Let me introduce you to Cannibal Ox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dRjsaaK7uo

Lil' Who?:lol:

Lyrical geniouses...

Try to get a hold of the song 'The F-Word'. It's undisputable, lyrics don't get much better than that.

I remember buying the Cold Vein when it came out and the guy behind the counter told me there wasn't a better CD I could have pulled out of that store, too bad Vast Aire is pretty garbage now but it's good to see Vordal working with the likes of C-Rayz and El-P still. I've seen Lif in concert solo and with Akrobatik, got a signed CD and shot the breeze with him for a while, cool cat.

[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="tbone802"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"]

Is this thread now about hip hop? SWEEET :D This is what I've been listening to recently:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7372917

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=17334462

ToScA-

Please dont say hip hop and have Lil wayne in ur sig at the same time lol :p

Anywho yeah Im oldschool when hip hop was amazing and not commercial rap now catered for the masses and formulaic as hell

I used to love me some PE, EPMD, Gangstarr, Tribe, Slick Rick, Rakim, Pete Rock & CL smooth etc...

Couldn't agree with that more. Late 80's - late 90's is where hip hop is at.

Sir u have my respect.

When Hip hop was an art form and real not this junk now. I was a TRUE hip hop head man. What happened to it is nasty.

How many of u new guys know who Jeru is or Gangstarr or KRS ONE or Tribe or Slick Rick or Rakim or Pete rock & CL smooth etc...?

I do :D

By the way, listened to Jeru's new album?

Sure, it's no 'Sun Rises In The East', but it's still a pleasure to listen to.

Oh, and Pete Rock is tied with DJ Premier as my second favorite producer.

I had Sun Rises in the East back when it came out, it was nice. Jeru was in my town back in like May to do a show, I saw him sitting at the bar of my favorite watering hole I was like holy sh!!

I remember buying the Cold Vein when it came out and the guy behind the counter told me there wasn't a better CD I could have pulled out of that store, too bad Vast Aire is pretty garbage now but it's good to see Vordal working with the likes of C-Rayz and El-P still. I've seen Lif in concert solo and with Akrobatik, got a signed CD and shot the breeze with him for a while, cool cat.

tbone802

Agreed that Vast is in a "come on, you know you can do better" situation post The Cold Vein.

Hoping to see a follow up soon...rumours are buzzing but nothing concrete.

It's interesting to see that Vordul has done better than Vast after The Cold Vein even though Vast was the stronger (in lyrics and delivery) of the two in the album.

Lucky you for seeing both Lif and Akrobatik live, will take a while before I get the oppurtunity to do so myself, unfortunately ;/

I had Sun Rises in the East back when it came out, it was nice. Jeru was in my town back in like May to do a show, I saw him sitting at the bar of my favorite watering hole I was like holy sh!!

tbone802

Rofl! I'd completely lose any sense of reality if I saw Jeru anywhere. It'd be like some sort of holy man walking around.

Did you happen talk to him or anything? :D

And ah, Sun Risses in the East was such a classic. DJ Premier outdid himself with his brilliant production, and Jeru was...wow..just...wow...it was damn near flawless. Wrath of The Math was amazing as well.

His new album ('Still Rising') is also worth checking out.

Jeru...a living legend.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8e76XpXD1o

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Paddy345"]

http://www.vgchartz.com/

This site confirms 360 sales this week but ps3 and wii are ahead worldwide this week, ps3 outsells wii in japan again and outsells 360 in europe

Paddy345

Let's just never use vgchartz for any reason...even if they did get one number correct.

you saying it's wrong cause you don't wanna believe it doesn't convince me, i'm sorry

LMFAO.

Hey Paddy, no one is trying to convince you. If you want to continue to live in a fantasy world all of your own, you are more than welcome. Just be sure you stop by every once in a while and tell us how things are going in Lala Land.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.rocktimusprime

lulz damage control

He's being sarcastic and pointing out that the argument that 360 sales are fueled by people replacing their broken consoles implies that they would rather spend $350 on a new Xbox rather than buy a PS 3

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"][QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"]Lil wayne is the best rapper alive.Tsug_Ze_Wind

I would have to vomit.

Agreed. All those youngsters (I know these guys are young) love Lil Wayne. Weaksauce. Jay Z is the best ever. Not even close.

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"][QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"]Lil wayne is the best rapper alive.dhjohns

I would have to vomit.

Agreed. All those youngsters (I know these guys are young) love Lil Wayne. Weaksauce. Jay Z is the best ever. Not even close.

Lil Wayne is interesting and has some good song, but he is nowhere close to being the best. IMO, he's #13 or so on my list of best current rappers. Anyone who thinks he is the best needs to turn off the radio and expand your hiphop catalog.

I still see the Ps3 selling quite well for 500$ system

[QUOTE="tbone802"]

I remember buying the Cold Vein when it came out and the guy behind the counter told me there wasn't a better CD I could have pulled out of that store, too bad Vast Aire is pretty garbage now but it's good to see Vordal working with the likes of C-Rayz and El-P still. I've seen Lif in concert solo and with Akrobatik, got a signed CD and shot the breeze with him for a while, cool cat.

ToScA-

Agreed that Vast is in a "come on, you know you can do better" situation post The Cold Vein.

Hoping to see a follow up soon...rumours are buzzing but nothing concrete.

It's interesting to see that Vordul has done better than Vast after The Cold Vein even though Vast was the stronger (in lyrics and delivery) of the two in the album.

Lucky you for seeing both Lif and Akrobatik live, will take a while before I get the oppurtunity to do so myself, unfortunately ;/

I had Sun Rises in the East back when it came out, it was nice. Jeru was in my town back in like May to do a show, I saw him sitting at the bar of my favorite watering hole I was like holy sh!!

tbone802

Rofl! I'd completely lose any sense of reality if I saw Jeru anywhere. It'd be like some sort of holy man walking around.

Did you happen talk to him or anything? :D

And ah, Sun Risses in the East was such a classic. DJ Premier outdid himself with his brilliant production, and Jeru was...wow..just...wow...it was damn near flawless. Wrath of The Math was amazing as well.

His new album ('Still Rising') is also worth checking out.

Jeru...a living legend.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8e76XpXD1o

I didn't approach him, I don't like to be "that guy" But I have talked to CRayz, Louis Logic and a few others after shows, most of those underground guys are pretty down to earth and appreciate people coming out and buying their stuff. What is even more amazing is that all this goes down in VERMONT!

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="Liquid-GEAR"][QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"]Lil wayne is the best rapper alive.dhjohns

I would have to vomit.

Agreed. All those youngsters (I know these guys are young) love Lil Wayne. Weaksauce. Jay Z is the best ever. Not even close.

I used to think the same thing until I put Lil Wayne's Tha Carter IIon my ipod. he's better than what some are giving him credit for.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.Indestructible2

Why are they buying it over again if they have warranty?

I didn't approach him, I don't like to be "that guy" But I have talked to CRayz, Louis Logic and a few others after shows, most of those underground guys are pretty down to earth and appreciate people coming out and buying their stuff. What is even more amazing is that all this goes down in VERMONT!

tbone802

lol! Nice.

Thing is though, I live in Sweden, so the chances with me spotting any of them are null :P

Brother Ali and Atmosphere were around here quite recently though; but I was way too busy with school :(

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Lots of 360s are failing so lemmings are buying it over and over again.Supafly1

Why are they buying it over again if they have warranty?

He's definately one of the better mainstream rappers.

Its been well past your time to stop posting. You can't make a statement. And then say its your opinion seeing as how you stated something as it was fact.

And anybody can link something to worst rap lyrics. I can say video games are all garbage and then link you to Anubis II and E.T.

Your post isn't even laughable its just sad.

When people talk about American's being idiots they don't ever bring up Rap music. They bring up our President and the way we think we are the center of the world. I have never heard other countries say America is stupid becuase of Rap music. You're just making crap up now.

Oh and that also sounds far-fetched that other Nationalities would insult America. Seeing as how we are the home to so many. I can see it now how Koreans, Irish, Polish, African's, and Japanese amongst all other nationalities hate America lol.

Blackbond

That guy fails. There's no resoning with ignorance, if western society's fate is doom, its because of ignorant people like him. Some of the bands/artist that he listed are influenced by Rap/Hip Hop in some form so it's like an insult to the fabric of the music that he loves so much. The number 1 demograph of people that buy into mainstream Hip Hop are of the same race that makes ignorant statements about it. Ignorant hypocracy for the loss.

I believe that Rap music is the most expressive form of music because the whole song is reliant on that rappers lyrics..unlike other forms of music that are so reliant on a melody and musical instruments to hook the listener.

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]

http://www.vgchartz.com/

This site confirms 360 sales this week but ps3 and wii are ahead worldwide this week, ps3 outsells wii in japan again and outsells 360 in europe

Dreams-Visions

Let's just never use vgchartz for any reason...even if they did get one number correct.

Yeah they were off by 200k in NA for all consoles in October. They claim they get actual sales data but thats obviously false. My guesses are usually just as good or better then their numbers.