The 3DS is designed to kill Sony, not to actually succeed the DS

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#1 Mrmccormo
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The 3DS is $100 more than what the DS launched at. The games are going to be more expensive, not only for consumers to purchase but also for devs to develop. The worldwide market is in more of a slump than it was back in 2004. The 3DS is ignoring the sort of games that flourished on the DS (2D platformers, adventure games, 2d puzzle games, old-school RPGs etc). Lastly, the 3DS is focusing on N64/Gamecube style games (and we all know that these games only put Nintendo into decline). The 3DS would be incredibly lucky if it sold half as much as the DS. I don't think the 3DS is going to be the runaway success that Nintendo hopes.

But despite all this, I don't think Nintendo cares. The 3DS is aimed at undermining Sony in so many ways. It's a much cheaper 3D camera/camcorder than Sony's Cybershot and HD 3D camcorder. It's a cheaper 3D movie player than Sony's PS3 + 3D HDTV. It's a cheaper Netflix player than the PS3, and it's portable, too. Most of its featues seem like Nintendo thought "how can we really stick it to Sony?" instead of thinking "what does the customer want from the next Nintendo handheld?"

I don't necessarily like this. I'd rather have Nintendo focus on pleasing customers instead of revenge-killing Sony. They tried to do that with the N64 and the Gamecube, and not only did they lose, but they also greatly declined.

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#2 JuarN18
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I agree with everything you said

/sarcasm

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#3 RavenLoud
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So, Ninty and Sony kill each other while iOS/Android take over the world?

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#4 nintendoboy16
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Oh yeah, like Nintendo would "kill" a longtime rival with the 3DS. :roll:
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#5 madsnakehhh
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Yeah, i'm agree, i can almost hear them in their meetings "We Must Kill SONY!!!!! let's make a new DS"

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#6 HaloinventedFPS
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i hope Nintendo do kill off Sony

1 less Console holding back PC gaming

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#7 i3DS
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3DS and NGP are completely targeting different audiences.
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#8 lowkey254
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You do understand that the PSP/NGP and PS3 are only a division of Sony. Outside of gaming, they are still a large company in the electronics business. Nintendo could never compete in the electronics business as it is today. Unless they create a new standard for something. Besides that, Why would they try to hurt themselves to get revenge over the PS1 which was 15 years ago? I'm sure they still think about it but, I'm betting they're not willing to ruin a fiscal year to get revenge.

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OMG, I just have to post this again, it's my duty:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM

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OMG, I just have to post this again, it's my duty:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM

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never get tired of seeing this:lol:

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#11 Raymundo_Manuel
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Well, if it manages to get exclusive Monster Hunter games then maybe.

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#12 DAZZER7
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OP I think you have over-thought this! Sure they are going to compete with rivals but I wouldnt go as far to say they don't care if its a success or not.

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#13 icygangsta
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Thanks for the laughs TC :)
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#14 LordQuorthon
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Mrmccormo does have a point. The 3DS has very little in common with the DS and seems to be more of a "Let's get Sony out of the handheld gaming industry" gadget. There is no way in hell the 3DS will sell like the DS. If anything, they'll be lucky if they manage to sell as many 3DSs as they sold GBAs. Then again, GBA figures would still be great. The one risk is that another company may release a handheld-handheld that steps away from the "TEH HOME CONSOLE EXPERIENCE ON THE GO, LOL" mindset. However, who could that be? We know it's not going to be Sony, and Microsoft is simply not that clever.

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#15 Shewgenja
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LOL @ Kill Sony..

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#16 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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So, Ninty and Sony kill each other while iOS/Android take over the world?

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no. everyone is getting stabbed by WP7. i saw it from my crystal ball.

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#17 Zero5000X
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Nintendo has already said that Sony isn't their main competition in the portable space, Apple is.
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#18 piranha_inc
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For me the whole point of portable devices is bringing "THE HOME CONSOLE EXPERIENCE ON THE GO", Nintendo drove away from this and they are coming back, there must be a reason for this don't you think?
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#19 DAFTArticuno
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I really wouldn't see the point of (if this is true) trying to kill of Sony. Sony is killing themselves. They always overprice their products and Nintendo should just stick to what they always do. Make good games and shut up. But for goodness sakes, Nintendo you need to update to HD Quality. Please. :)
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#20 2Chalupas
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Wait, so 3DS is going to kill off the need for other high quality electronics such as SLR and digital cameras, 3DTV/HDTV's, Blu-Ray movie players, and will take over the Netflix market? People will just throw away all their home electronics for a 3DS?

I did not know that 3DS was this powerful. I mean I can just imagine everyone ditching their 60" TV's and blu ray players, to watch movies on a 3" screen. I guess in addition to trading in their Sony HD Handycam they'll trade in their Nikon SLR cameras for 3DS as well. LOL. Seriously, come on man.

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#21 aia89
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well I don't think TC is serious about what he wrote

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#22 donalbane
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

i hope Nintendo do kill off Sony

1 less Console holding back PC gaming

And one less stream of revenue for game manufacturers to finance future projects with.
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#23 curono
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3DS and NGP are completely targeting different audiences.i3DS
That doesnt mean that N3D will not eat NGP's audience
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#24 bamboomahah
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If i were nintendo id add 2 analogs sticks to it. If they dont nintendo might aswell cann the 3ds.
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#25 APiranhaAteMyVa
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If there is one thing we have learned this gen about Nintendo, it's that they don't give a crap what the competition is doing. They do what they want to do, and like Apple with this mentality they have suceeded.
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#26 Nonstop-Madness
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Why would Nintendo try to play Sony's game when Nintendo is already the undisputed leader in handheld gaming ? The only problem I see with Nintendo is that the device as is right now, will not do well against the exponentially growing tablet/smartphone multimedia market. Nintendo isn't ready because its only a video game company. Sony is a huge company that can work off of themselves for many things. Sony has played it really smart this time around with NGP AND PS Certification on mobile devices.
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#27 RandomWinner
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I believe the point you have made is that they are taking the same route sony did with the original PSP, but now with 3D. And I can agree with that. With the NGP coming with features that do seem like they would be in a next gen handheld and a price that will be competitive with the 3DS, Nintendo can potentially loose this gen. If the NGP is $349 or less then I don't think Nintendo will have an easy victory.

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#28 lbjkurono23
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So the 3ds is the terminator and the NGP is sarah ? :P

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#29 Timstuff
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i hope Nintendo do kill off Sony

1 less Console holding back PC gaming

HaloinventedFPS

Yes, because if the PS3 dies then Farmville will automatically have 40 million new players, right? :roll:

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#30 VensInferno
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i hope Nintendo do kill off Sony

1 less Console holding back PC gaming

HaloinventedFPS

What you just said....made my day.... this is sig worthy.

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#31 VensInferno
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So the 3ds is the terminator and the NGP is sarah ? :P

lbjkurono23

3DS is the liquid Metal Terminator and the lady terminator is the Iphone cause of all its apps! :o

NGP is normal terminator.Because Sony just told everyone "I'll be back"~

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#32 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

So the 3ds is the terminator and the NGP is sarah ? :P

VensInferno

3DS is the liquid Metal Terminator and the lady terminator is the Iphone cause of all its apps! :o

NGP is normal terminator.Because Sony just told everyone "I'll be back"~

In the end they will die :cry:..

but whos this guy :P

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#33 VensInferno
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[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

So the 3ds is the terminator and the NGP is sarah ? :P

lbjkurono23

3DS is the liquid Metal Terminator and the lady terminator is the Iphone cause of all its apps! :o

NGP is normal terminator.Because Sony just told everyone "I'll be back"~

In the end they will die :cry:..

but whos this guy :P

Its SKYNET! :shock:

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#34 painguy1
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This thread is funny

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#35 JohnF111
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i hope Nintendo do kill off Sony

1 less Console holding back PC gaming

HaloinventedFPS

If i were you i'd make a new account as i can't take you serious when you say garbage like that with your name and having more competition just means PC devs will have to work harder to compete and when you look at BF3 i see reason to bring out the overused saying to "Consoles holding back PC" rant as these days its nothing more than a hermit identifier.

3DS just got hold of the 3D market successfully and not to mention well before Sony's expensive 3D solution of a large 3D TV and a PS3 and 3D games so 3DS was if anything only created to grab the market at a cheaper price than Sony.

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#36 caseypayne69
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i hope Nintendo do kill off Sony

1 less Console holding back PC gaming

HaloinventedFPS
IF any console is holding back the pc. It's the Wii. For having 1995 like PC graphics.
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#37 Tuky06
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Well, the most un-gamecube-ey game at launch (proffessor layton) sold the most units. We're also getting sidescrolling platformers like Cave Story too. But your argument is still invalid because the DS doesn't have enough hardware to run more games like Super Mario 64 DS. (I think thts what you mean by gamecube-like) Now the 3DS can and it most certainly will.
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#38 Supabul
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3DS and NGP are completely targeting different audiences.i3DS
Yeah the 3DS is for Kids and the NGP is for adults
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[QUOTE="i3DS"]3DS and NGP are completely targeting different audiences.Supabul
Yeah the 3DS is for Kids and the NGP is for adults

go away

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#40 RavenLoud
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This thread is funny

painguy1
Is that a compliment or an insult? :P
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#41 Darth-Samus
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So, Ninty and Sony kill each other while iOS/Android take over the world?

RavenLoud

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#42 mariokart64fan
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excuse me how can any one agree with this nintendos gonna be here for a long long time according to those sales numbers and is succeeding the ds

are you a moron 2d games? wth but yet its got a virtual console and bc with ds so i hardly say its ignoring them its just its time to move on and who knows whats in the pipe line for all we know we may see 2d games like ds had with nsmb and we all know 3rd party dont always join the fray with 3d and such

so i dont know where from left feild you came out on but , find a reliable source that says nintendo is gonna kill it self

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ok if the 3ds is not the successor to ds then what is

because i think tc has taken himself to seriously

if we all took a look back at the gba and ds!

you would all but say the same exact thing ,

-ds was more expensive

-ds was more powerful

dsi doesm ore things including take pictures then gba

and theres hardly any 2d games on ds by nintendo theres like what 1 -nsmb ds-whuch is a 3d side scroller

the 3ds will not fail ,

you can think what you will it is t o early to call shots

the 3ds has the same launch line up basically as ds---asphalt ridge racer nintendogs super monkey ball in fact its even got kid icaris and zelda near launch as well as paper mario mario kart 2 re games all of these games were seen on ds

just with less powerful graphics for 5 dollars -10 dollars less some times, whoopie 10 bucks i can cry about paying 39,99 but that wont change what fun im gonna have at least it wont be 59,99 or 49,99 like ngp which we all know ignores the ds all together

in fact the 3ds is the only system out catering mostly to games netflix is just an addon ,

like it was on wii

same for all the bells and whistles you dont need the 3d effect lol , just chill

you guys know im right

which is probably why you will get mad and respond in such a way that i wont respond back

if 374 thousand plus units in 2 days in japan isnt success then i dont know what to tell you other then to look at psp gos first week at 808

thats failure

plus comparing 3ds to psp is failure already since 13ds is the 8th gen handheld

you can not compare an 8th gen handheld made by nintendo to a 7th gen /first handheld by sony

you can compare the sales of the ds to 3ds but right now its toooo early! its not even out in the united states of america amoung other places

you think the price is too expesnive well then your screwed this gen cause word has it ngp will cost more or the same lol and not have anything that psp didnt already have so if you were not satisfied with psp 1 this gen , you took to the ds more, then itll happen this time again

i hate to break the news to you

but 3ds has more original titles then ngp which is the same reason ds sold more

you think 2d games had somthing to do with this ----well think again

they could very well have made them look like n64 games

and still walked away ,

dont take my word for it in fact why dont you look at japans 2 day sales number

people can laugh at that and say oh it wont sell as high remember thats 2 days racking in nearly the whole shipment

i gurantee that whole shipment is gone now

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#44 campzor
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lol at sony dying. HAHAHAHA oh man.. system wars delivers again
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ok if the 3ds is not the successor to ds then what is

because i think tc has taken himself to seriously

if we all took a look back at the gba and ds!

you would all but say the same exact thing ,

-ds was more expensive

-ds was more powerful

dsi doesm ore things including take pictures then gba

and theres hardly any 2d games on ds by nintendo theres like what 1 -nsmb ds-whuch is a 3d side scroller

the 3ds will not fail ,

you can think what you will it is t o early to call shots

the 3ds has the same launch line up basically as ds---asphalt ridge racer nintendogs super monkey ball in fact its even got kid icaris and zelda near launch as well as paper mario mario kart 2 re games all of these games were seen on ds

just with less powerful graphics for 5 dollars -10 dollars less some times, whoopie 10 bucks i can cry about paying 39,99 but that wont change what fun im gonna have at least it wont be 59,99 or 49,99 like ngp which we all know ignores the ds all together

in fact the 3ds is the only system out catering mostly to games netflix is just an addon ,

like it was on wii

same for all the bells and whistles you dont need the 3d effect lol , just chill

you guys know im right

which is probably why you will get mad and respond in such a way that i wont respond back

if 374 thousand plus units in 2 days in japan isnt success then i dont know what to tell you other then to look at psp gos first week at 808

thats failure

plus comparing 3ds to psp is failure already since 13ds is the 8th gen handheld

you can not compare an 8th gen handheld made by nintendo to a 7th gen /first handheld by sony

you can compare the sales of the ds to 3ds but right now its toooo early! its not even out in the united states of america amoung other places

you think the price is too expesnive well then your screwed this gen cause word has it ngp will cost more or the same lol and not have anything that psp didnt already have so if you were not satisfied with psp 1 this gen , you took to the ds more, then itll happen this time again

i hate to break the news to you

but 3ds has more original titles then ngp which is the same reason ds sold more

you think 2d games had somthing to do with this ----well think again

they could very well have made them look like n64 games

and still walked away ,

dont take my word for it in fact why dont you look at japans 2 day sales number

people can laugh at that and say oh it wont sell as high remember thats 2 days racking in nearly the whole shipment

i gurantee that whole shipment is gone now

mariokart64fan

MR GORBACHEV!
TEAR THIS WALL OF TEXT DOWN!

:P

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#46 painguy1
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

*wall of text*

taterfrickintot

MR GORBACHEV!
TEAR THIS WALL OF TEXT DOWN!

:P

i dont understand why he types like that

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#47 HailCaesarHail
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lol, a handheld to play pokeman in 3d, lol. sure thing pal.
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#48 djsifer01
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How dose a handheld kill a company? I disagree with everything you said and i wish people here would quit using the word "kill" when talking about games, hardware and companies, it makes no sense.
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#49 TehOverkill
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Even if Sony got obliterated in the gaming market, it still has TVs, computers, other hardware (blu-ray players, cellphones, etc.) accessories, movie studios, music studios, properties, etc. Sony is much bigger than its gaming wing, which is only a micro-fraction of its total revenue.

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#50 Darth-Samus
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I think this whole converstation in moot. I think it's fair to say we live in a world where both companies and both of their respective devices can and will be successful. At the end of the day the 3DS will be extremely successful without a doubt. I know the PSP2 isn't a sure thing but i honestly see it doing quit fine for itself. Why do people have to see this as an either/or situation? Just silly.