The 3DS technical specs are revealed, and it's a big disappointment.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="JuarN18"] just like the DS isn't?FireEmblem_Man

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Difference is the DS didn't have competition like this. Android, Apple, Window Mobile. All will have gaming applications built into phones. And considering their tech will be even more advanced and companies like Sony are said to be producing a PSP phone most likely with android.

SakusEnvoy

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?

Where did you get that? Isn't $299?

Edit: Nevermind you're referring to the 8GB model, but all that power is not all use for gaming

I'd much rather just have, you know, a gaming handheld that just plays games and is affordable. Not a phone/email/twitter/facebook/palmpilot/gps/game system/transformer.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Difference is the DS didn't have competition like this. Android, Apple, Window Mobile. All will have gaming applications built into phones. And considering their tech will be even more advanced and companies like Sony are said to be producing a PSP phone most likely with android.

SakusEnvoy

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

You showed me a trailer....Prerendered. Show me gameplay then we will talk. I dont doubt the 3ds will be awesome, I'm just saying dont show that to back up your point.

NVIDIATI

I showed you a trailer.

Running In Game.

Why are you even bringing up iPhone 4? We're talking about the 3DS and how it's Technical Specs aren't dissapointing at all. If anything that iPhone 4 video that you showed me is probably going to be outdated in about a year or a couple of Months.

Not only that but that's the Unreal 3 engine on the iPhone 4. Resident Evil Revelations is supposedly using the same engine that Resident Evil 5 uses so What's stopping Epic to put the Unreal 3 engine on the 3DS?

And so it begins...

"NVIDIA Tegra 2 is next DROID DOES"

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-t2/11387.html

And so it begins...

"NVIDIA Tegra 2 is next DROID DOES"

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-t2/11387.html

NVIDIATI

I am getting a 3DS :D

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I showed you a trailer.

Running In Game.

LegatoSkyheart

Why are you even bringing up iPhone 4? We're talking about the 3DS and how it's Technical Specs aren't dissapointing at all. If anything that iPhone 4 video that you showed me is probably going to be outdated in about a year or a couple of Months.

what a disappointment i thought they would put some tegras in that thing, dont think it will compete with the mobilephones in two years except for 3D.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] This is on an iPhone 4, which has weaker hardware then the Tegra 2... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcLSXKk5To

NVIDIATI

Why are you even bringing up iPhone 4? We're talking about the 3DS and how it's Technical Specs aren't dissapointing at all. If anything that iPhone 4 video that you showed me is probably going to be outdated in about a year or a couple of Months.

what a disappointment i thought they would put some tegras in that thing, dont think it will compete with the mobilephones in two years except for 3D.

HFkami

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

And so it begins...

"NVIDIA Tegra 2 is next DROID DOES"

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-t2/11387.html

crippled_ram

You do understand they are finding a balance between price/performance/battery life?

Remember, the Nintendo DS does NOT require a massive subscription plan that is $50+ a month. Cellphone companies cut deals with the cellphone manufacturer's to give discounts on the phones and pay them back over time. Nintendo doesn't have that going for them, unless you want a pay to play plan...

Higher clock speeds = less battery time. Use a 4th gen iPhone to play 3d games and tell me how long the battery lasts. Not long at all, and the thing gets hot in your hand.

From what we have seen the graphics of the 3DS is are more than fine for a handheld. The thing will have longer battery life and be cheaper to manufacture than one with higher clock speeds requiring more cooling. Remember the thing can't get hot, it can't weigh alot, it has to be cheap to make (so they can sell for a profit), and it has to have a lot of battery life.

Use a smart phone for 3D applications for a few hours and you'll understand that battery life and heat become a major concern.

What was the major problem with the PSP? Price and low battery life. Price, although it wasn't to expensive, was still higher than the competition and the battery life suffered from both the graphics processing and the UMD mechanical parts. Do you want the 3DS to suffer similar problems?

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?

crippled_ram

Nintendo *could* have pushed the specs further, but they chose not to for the sake of power effeciency, battery life and increased profits. Nothing wrong with that, it's their hardware philosophy, I don't necessarily 100% agree with it but it is what it is. Anyway, we still don't know what the 3DS's price point will be, so that should be interesting.

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

And so it begins...

"NVIDIA Tegra 2 is next DROID DOES"

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-t2/11387.html

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Why are you even bringing up iPhone 4? We're talking about the 3DS and how it's Technical Specs aren't dissapointing at all. If anything that iPhone 4 video that you showed me is probably going to be outdated in about a year or a couple of Months.

crippled_ram

Anyway, we still don't know what the 3DS's price point will be, so that should be interesting.

SakusEnvoy

It's a safe bet it will be $200. I think if they add some media functionality, a decent web browser, and some decent flash storage, it will be worth $200.

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] The fourth-generation iPod Touch is $229...

SakusEnvoy

Nintendo *could* have pushed the specs further, but they chose not to for the sake of power effeciency, battery life and increased profits. Nothing wrong with that, it's their hardware philosophy, I don't necessarily 100% agree with it but it is what it is. Anyway, we still don't know what the 3DS's price point will be, so that should be interesting.

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] I was making a point that even an iPhone can pump out visuals like that. Once a real contender comes into play the 3DS will just look "old."

NVIDIATI

Yeah I don't like the iPhone or support it, like I said its not much of a contender, but as extremely power efficient hardware comes out from Snapdragon, Nvidia, Intel most portable devices will be a lot better. Which is why I bring up the Tegra time and time again.

NVIDIATI

Though you're comparing a mobile smart phone's functionality to a 3D processing system. Way different power usage. Play a 3D app on a smart phone, the power consumption goes up dramatically, heat as well.

You can't just compare smart phones to handheld consoles. They are built for seperate applications. What works in one will not work in another.

Like if you are building a PC to do lot's of video encoding. You wouldn't build a quad SLI rig, you would put the beefiest processors and tons of ram while skipping on the graphics. With a smartphone you don't need to worry about 3D applications as much, with the 3DS it's the only application the thing is designed for. It needs to have hardware that is appropriate for those applications.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Difference is the DS didn't have competition like this. Android, Apple, Window Mobile. All will have gaming applications built into phones. And considering their tech will be even more advanced and companies like Sony are said to be producing a PSP phone most likely with android.

NVIDIATI

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?

Yet, the 3DS is a dedicated Gaming device! I suggest you read Wasdie's posts.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Anyway, we still don't know what the 3DS's price point will be, so that should be interesting.

Wasdie

It's a safe bet it will be $200. I think if they add some media functionality, a decent web browser, and some decent flash storage, it will be worth $200.

I'd buy the 3DS as is for $200.

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

And so it begins...

"NVIDIA Tegra 2 is next DROID DOES"

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/motorola-droid-t2/11387.html

NVIDIATI

Why would you ever.

consider an iPhone a Gaming device.

If an iPhone is a Gaming Device then so is my LG Shine, cause It can play PACMAN.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Anyway, we still don't know what the 3DS's price point will be, so that should be interesting.

789shadow

It's a safe bet it will be $200. I think if they add some media functionality, a decent web browser, and some decent flash storage, it will be worth $200.

I'd buy the 3DS as is for $200.

I'm assuming it will have everything I said. I just don't see it not. Those are kind of standards today.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It's a safe bet it will be $200. I think if they add some media functionality, a decent web browser, and some decent flash storage, it will be worth $200.

Wasdie

I'd buy the 3DS as is for $200.

I'm assuming it will have everything I said. I just don't see it not. Those are kind of standards today.

You do understand they are finding a balance between price/performance/battery life?

Remember, the Nintendo DSdoesNOT require a massive subscription plan that is $50+ a month. Cellphone companies cut deals with the cellphone manufacturer's to give discounts on the phones and pay them back over time. Nintendo doesn't have that going for them, unless you want a pay to play plan...

Higher clock speeds = less battery time. Use a 4th gen iPhone to play 3d games and tell me how long the battery lasts. Not long at all, and the thing gets hot in your hand.

From what we have seen the graphics of the 3DSisare more than fine for a handheld. The thing will have longer battery life and be cheaper to manufacture than one with higher clock speeds requiring more cooling. Remember the thing can't get hot, it can't weigh alot, it has to be cheap to make (so they can sell for a profit), and it has to have a lot of battery life.

Use a smart phone for 3D applications for a few hours and you'll understand that battery life and heat become a major concern.

What was the major problem with the PSP? Price and low battery life. Price, although it wasn't to expensive, was still higher than the competition and the battery life suffered from both the graphics processing and the UMD mechanical parts. Do you want the 3DS to suffer similar problems?

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Anyway, we still don't know what the 3DS's price point will be, so that should be interesting.

789shadow

It's a safe bet it will be $200. I think if they add some media functionality, a decent web browser, and some decent flash storage, it will be worth $200.

I'd buy the 3DS as is for $200.

Ditto! I can't afford a handheld that is $300 or more.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"] Neither the NVIDIA Tegra 2 nor the iPhone nor the Droid have anything to do with the 3DS.LegatoSkyheart

Why would you ever.

consider an iPhone a Gaming device.

If an iPhone is a Gaming Device then so is my LG Shine, cause It can play PACMAN.

It's only a disappointment whencompared to a smart phone but let me ask you this, when was the last time a gaming phone have great exclusivegames that last more than 2 hours?

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?

FireEmblem_Man

Yet, the 3DS is a dedicated Gaming device! I suggest you read Wasdie's posts.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Why $500? :? First of all considering itmight also be a phone it would cost less when you get a plan, second something like the Zune HD with a Nvidia Tegra 1 is only $179.99. So hardware pricing isn't going to be much of a killer. Though personally for a device that would do all my mobile needs including phone, e-mail, games, music, video, etc. I wouldn't mind paying that much.

NVIDIATI

Yet, the 3DS is a dedicated Gaming device! I suggest you read Wasdie's posts.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

Yet, the 3DS is a dedicated Gaming device! I suggest you read Wasdie's posts.

crippled_ram

what a disappointment i thought they would put some tegras in that thing, dont think it will compete with the mobilephones in two years except for 3D.

HFkami

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] So? the 360 is a dedicated gaming machine but the PC which is the jack of all trades still beats it.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"] Oh come on, are you really comparing the 3DS vs iPhone situation to the HD Consoles vs PC one?crippled_ram

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] The iPhone isn't a gaming device, but the point I was making is even if something is a "dedicated gaming device" that doesn't automatically make it better then something that's not.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] :? Portable gaming, and hardware in a portable device... It has plenty to do with it. Just sharing why the specs in the 3DS are so disappointing.

NVIDIATI

Why would you ever.

consider an iPhone a Gaming device.

If an iPhone is a Gaming Device then so is my LG Shine, cause It can play PACMAN.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"] That's true in the PC vs Consoles analogy. Here, though, the 3DS WILL beat the iPhone/iPad/iTouch when it comes to gaming hands down in all departments, including in graphics (mostly). I understand what you're saying- the 3DS, techwise, isn't future proof. It's positively outdated. Since when has that ever been a cause for worry for a Nintendo handheld?charizard1605

Now lets wait for psp2 which will be amazing.johny300

This thread is still alive? I don't see why it is when Resident Evil and Metal Gear, show what the 3DS is capable of. Do the specs matter when the games shown look outstanding?

This thread is still alive? I don't see why it is when Resident Evil and Metal Gear, show what the 3DS is capable of. Do the specs matter when the games shown look outstanding?

AmayaPapaya

[QUOTE="johny300"]Now lets wait for psp2 which will be amazing.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Difference is the DS didn't have competition like this. Android, Apple, Window Mobile. All will have gaming applications built into phones. And considering their tech will be even more advanced and companies like Sony are said to be producing a PSP phone most likely with android.

SakusEnvoy

But do you want to pay for a $500 hand-held game system?