The 3DS technical specs are revealed, and it's a big disappointment.

I think that very few system warriors are actually qualified to comment on how these specs translate into visual fidelity on a handheld.

The specs for the 3ds may be dissapointing, but the graphics are still top notch.

3DS's technical Specs are...a Big Disappointment?

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

3DS's technical Specs are...a Big Disappointment?

Androvinus

Someone ignored the fact that the footage there is real time. MT Framework games render their "cutscenes" in game, in real time.

How are these specs a disappointment? If it's as powerful as a gamecube then thats amazing for a handheld device. You where seriously expecting it to be on par with the HD consoles?

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

3DS's technical Specs are...a Big Disappointment?

Androvinus

Their not called cinematic graphics, their called pre rendered and this trailer is actually realtime on the 3ds.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

3DS's technical Specs are...a Big Disappointment?

Androvinus

Takeuchi said "The images since the game's E3 unveiling have all been real time rendered on the 3DS development hardware. It seems as though people didn't believe us at first, but we'd like you to know that the 3DS is capable of this level of expressive power."

How are these specs a disappointment? If it's as powerful as a gamecube then thats amazing for a handheld device.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Since this time there will be a lot more competition in the future and for once Nintendo won't be the casual one. Not that I'm saying the 3DS wont do well, but I'm just saying how its different then before.

NVIDIATI

I think Sony would be crazy not to make the PSP2 an Android-compatible smartphone w/ physical buttons, because that market readily embraces the type of technological advances, multifunctionality and even premium prices Sony likes to incorporate into their devices. Plus they could get the PSP Phone heavily subsidized through carriers, which would help push a lot of units. And they could also release a standalone device ala the iPod Touch and PSP 1, which would probably sell worse than the 3DS but would still add to their total sales.

How are these specs a disappointment? If it's as powerful as a gamecube then thats amazing for a handheld device. You where seriously expecting it to be on par with the HD consoles?

Crossel777

Hello. Same thread, less troll

After following the development of a bunch of different processors and video cards, i basically don't put stock in any numbers released by companies. I mean, there are processors today that are 2ghz that are faster and more powerful than processors from a few years ago that were over 3ghz.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] This is on an iPhone 4, which has weaker hardware then the Tegra 2... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcLSXKk5To

NVIDIATI

Why are you even bringing up iPhone 4? We're talking about the 3DS and how it's Technical Specs aren't dissapointing at all. If anything that iPhone 4 video that you showed me is probably going to be outdated in about a year or a couple of Months.

Not to the general public. The iphone and droid are not considered gaming device by the vast public. Nintendo is known solely as a gaming company.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

How are these specs a disappointment? If it's as powerful as a gamecube then thats amazing for a handheld device.

NVIDIATI

It could of been alot better.

It also could of been 600 dollars and killed Nintendo.

When the Wii-specs were revealed did anyone stop and think about the efficiency of the new hardware?
It runs at like 17 W on or 14 W off.

That stuff takes a lot of money. I bet that they put a lot of effort into making this run efficiently. More than sony or microsoft would be willing to, because it would make them look bad in the specs department.
Seriously though, my priorities are that the thing works, works well, and does new stuff.

wiki says it has 2 266mhz cpus(532MHZ total) and a 400mhz gpu(200 for 3d processing) better than gcn in visual but slower than wii in power

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Why are you even bringing up iPhone 4? We're talking about the 3DS and how it's Technical Specs aren't dissapointing at all. If anything that iPhone 4 video that you showed me is probably going to be outdated in about a year or a couple of Months.

Pixel-Pirate

Not to the general public. The iphone and droid are not considered gaming device by the vast public. Nintendo is known solely as a gaming company.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

How are these specs a disappointment? If it's as powerful as a gamecube then thats amazing for a handheld device.

NVIDIATI

The big deal is so what!? No one actually cares if it could have been a lot better. No one is touting the 3DS to be the evolutionary technology in portable electronic devices. Besides, bumping up the technology will increase its price. What has been shown is already impressive.

If hardware specs mattered PC Gaming wouldn't be the lonely and insignificant niche it is now.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] I was making a point that even an iPhone can pump out visuals like that. Once a real contender comes into play the 3DS will just look "old."

NVIDIATI

Not to the general public. The iphone and droid are not considered gaming device by the vast public. Nintendo is known solely as a gaming company.

I don't think the Iphone is remotely a concern right now. It is not advertised as a gaming experience. People who buy it arn't buying it for games. It is not directly competing against Nintendos handhelds at this time.

Nintendo has basically owned the handheld market for longer than probably most posters in this thread have been alive. I don't think they're in danger of going belly up or losing out to a phone. I can play games on facebook but I wouldn't call facebook a gaming system.

I also don't see how having higher specs and thus a price higher than any current CONSOLE would equal more sales for them. That logic does not make sense.

Yeah, it has two miserable 200 mhz CPUs with a miserable under 200 mhz GPU and miserable 64 megs of slow ram. 3DS games look like garbage all of the sudden because of this :lol:

Yeah, it has two miserable 200 mhz CPUs with a miserable under 200 mhz GPU and miserable 64 megs of slow ram. 3DS games look like garbage all of the sudden because of this :lol:

nameless12345

Since I know nothing about specs or care, I cannot tell if this is serious.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Yeah, it has two miserable 200 mhz CPUs with a miserable under 200 mhz GPU and miserable 64 megs of slow ram. 3DS games look like garbage all of the sudden because of this :lol:

Pixel-Pirate

Since I know nothing about specs or care, I cannot tell if this is serious.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Yeah, it has two miserable 200 mhz CPUs with a miserable under 200 mhz GPU and miserable 64 megs of slow ram. 3DS games look like garbage all of the sudden because of this :lol:

Pixel-Pirate

Since I know nothing about specs or care, I cannot tell if this is serious.

The smiley was there for a reason ;)

Besides, this is System Wars. A place, where fiction is turned into facts :lol:

Oh no now I won't be able to list me 3DS specs like a hemit :cry: I guess Ill have to stick with good old fashion ingame screens/gifs...

Put it this way,

If the games actually manage to look this good in practicehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr3bvrvJYyo, which I still doubt to be honest, then I will be more than happy.

If they look about as good as say some of the best Xbox games, the original Xbox, then I will be happy. I just want developers to make sure they are pushing the system to take advantage of that power.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

3DS's technical Specs are...a Big Disappointment?

painguy1

you should listen to this man TC. plus i highly doubt you even know what those numbers mean. we also already have a thread on this.

That's a video, a cutscene or something. Almost every device out there can produce video on par with that, it's the gameplay that's gonna either benefit or suffer from the final specs.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Yeah, it has two miserable 200 mhz CPUs with a miserable under 200 mhz GPU and miserable 64 megs of slow ram. 3DS games look like garbage all of the sudden because of this :lol:

nameless12345

Since I know nothing about specs or care, I cannot tell if this is serious.

The smiley was there for a reason ;)

Besides, this is System Wars. A place, where fiction is turned into facts :lol:

The whole powerful as a 360 nonsense was hard to believe anyway. The 3DS is powerful for a handheld device though.racing1750

No suprise there, Nintendo always churns out Low Tech. What were you expecting? Some mind blowing taste of Next Gen.

Nice money saving strategy though.

I'll be enjoying the games more so than i will be enjoying the specs.

The games look excellent and thats what matters most.

I'd actually rather not have it be as powerful as an HD console. Why make a handheld that powerful? You'd probably be looking at 400-500 bucks a unit if that were the case. Ninty's not stupid and they know that won't sell, except to the most hardcore. Small screens do not require huge processing power to make great graphics. And I don't play a handheld for the graphics. I play a handheld to pass time on the bus, train, plane, etc.

Kid Icarus didn't look like a current gen game to me. As for all those static screen shots...can't believe people are still fooled by those time and time again. RE5 is all FMV and SFIV looks like pixelated butt. Bread_or_Decide

I'll be enjoying the games more so than i will be enjoying the specs.

The games look excellent and thats what matters most.

i think they are pretty decent, the problem was thepeople who were overhyping it, for a handheld, it's quite good.

for anyone who doesnt want to open the link

CPU: 2 x 266MHz ARM11
GPU: PICA200 133MHz GPU by DMP
RAM: 64MB
Video RAM: 4MB
Storage: 1.5GB Flash-based

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

You do understand they are finding a balance between price/performance/battery life?

Remember, the Nintendo DSdoesNOT require a massive subscription plan that is $50+ a month. Cellphone companies cut deals with the cellphone manufacturer's to give discounts on the phones and pay them back over time. Nintendo doesn't have that going for them, unless you want a pay to play plan...

Higher clock speeds = less battery time. Use a 4th gen iPhone to play 3d games and tell me how long the battery lasts. Not long at all, and the thing gets hot in your hand.

From what we have seen the graphics of the 3DSisare more than fine for a handheld. The thing will have longer battery life and be cheaper to manufacture than one with higher clock speeds requiring more cooling. Remember the thing can't get hot, it can't weigh alot, it has to be cheap to make (so they can sell for a profit), and it has to have a lot of battery life.

Use a smart phone for 3D applications for a few hours and you'll understand that battery life and heat become a major concern.

What was the major problem with the PSP? Price and low battery life. Price, although it wasn't to expensive, was still higher than the competition and the battery life suffered from both the graphics processing and the UMD mechanical parts. Do you want the 3DS to suffer similar problems?

NVIDIATI

The 3DS is pretty much current hardware. It's not coming out in 10 years, it's in development as we speak with current tech. I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Nintendo has found a good price/preformace ratio and they are just finalizing the design. The specs have probably been set in stone now for well over a year as developers got their hands on the development kits.

Epic and ID are showing off 3D visuals on the iPhone and Android to break into the markets and start new ones. Those markets are still extremely undeveloped. You're talking as if we have the kind of tech to bring current generation console power to a handheld system right now. Obviously this isn't the case.

The 3DS is a modern system, not some futurisitic device. You have to work within the limits of now. You can be looking at where the market is headed, you have to look at the tech now.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Kid Icarus didn't look like a current gen game to me. As for all those static screen shots...can't believe people are still fooled by those time and time again. RE5 is all FMV and SFIV looks like pixelated butt. BreakTheseLinks

[QUOTE="BreakTheseLinks"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Kid Icarus didn't look like a current gen game to me. As for all those static screen shots...can't believe people are still fooled by those time and time again. RE5 is all FMV and SFIV looks like pixelated butt. Bread_or_Decide