THE BIG N calls out Sony, Microsoft! OH SNAP!

Sixaxis and Viva Piñata were failed attempts to capture our consumer, says Harrison

Sony's Sixaxis controller and Viva Piñata for Xbox 360 are both failed attempts to capture the traditional Nintendo customer, according to NoA boss George Harrison.

He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

"So far they haven't spent a lot of time focused on us. Now that we're having some success, they probably will," commented Harrison to Wired.

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA. They're really good at reaching a certain customer, and have a real difficulty understanding how we succeed with the customers that we have," said the senior vice president of marketing and communications.

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.

"If they only focus on the Grand Theft Autos and the Halos and things of that nature, they're focusing on a very tiny part of the market. The overall market is growing so dramatically that they're going to miss out on the opportunities that we're seeing in the expanded audience," he said.

Damage

He wouldn't happen to be related to Phil, would he?

*ouch*

I quess the sales figures plead for nintendo. Anyways, I think more mature gamers played viva pinata by far than the little kiddies.

hmmm...what is that I smell...i think it is arrogance

de ja vu anyone (sony Im lookin at u) 

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.
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He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.Harrison

hmmm...what is that I smell...i think it is arrogance

de ja vu anyone (sony Im lookin at u) 

Slyprince

Yeah it didnt take long. But I think Nintendo has the right to show off. They have been right since the begining and people have been constantly laughing at them. And George is right anyways...

Someone already beat you to it, Dreams.  I dunno what's going on with you...you used to be first with this stuff, now you're slacking.  Although, your thread does have a better title.  :P

hmmm...what is that I smell...i think it is arrogance

de ja vu anyone (sony Im lookin at u)

Slyprince

Nintendo sunk of arrogance LONG before Sony (N64, I'm looking at you :|) 

Someone already beat you to it, Dreams. I dunno what's going on with you...you used to be first with this stuff, now you're slacking. Although, your thread does have a better title. :P

Teufelhuhn

:(  :cry:

I've been working on my history thing for the last few hours.  it's a monster. 

I guess he doesn't understand that some of the market wants more from a gaming experience than just a collection of mini-games and kiddy games. :| Way to alienate your hardcore fans Nintendo. :roll:Baird-06

Yay teh mini game argument :|

Watch out haters. This holiday season will be heated.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Someone already beat you to it, Dreams. I dunno what's going on with you...you used to be first with this stuff, now you're slacking. Although, your thread does have a better title. :P

Dreams-Visions

:(  :cry:

I've been working on my history thing for the last few hours.  it's a monster. 

I guess he doesn't understand that some of the market wants more from a gaming experience than just a collection of mini-games and kiddy games. :| Way to alienate your hardcore fans Nintendo. :roll:Baird-06

• BWii: Battalion Wars 2
• Dewy's Adventure
• Disaster: Day of Crisis
• Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
• Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
• Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn
• Forever Blue
• Kirby Adventure
• Mario Strikers Charged
• Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
• NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams
• No More Heroes
• Opoona
• Orb
• Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
• Project Treasure Island Z
• Super Smash Bros. Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy

I don't have a wii but i do own a gamecube.....and this post was hilarious

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Someone already beat you to it, Dreams. I dunno what's going on with you...you used to be first with this stuff, now you're slacking. Although, your thread does have a better title. :P

Teufelhuhn

:( :cry:

I've been working on my history thing for the last few hours. it's a monster.

semester has been over since the end of April.  I'm talking about the System Wars History thing.  Jan '05 = Jan '07 ;) 

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Someone already beat you to it, Dreams. I dunno what's going on with you...you used to be first with this stuff, now you're slacking. Although, your thread does have a better title. :P

Dreams-Visions

:( :cry:

I've been working on my history thing for the last few hours. it's a monster.

semester has been over since the end of April.  I'm talking about the System Wars History thing.  Jan '05 = Jan '07 ;) 

[QUOTE="Baird-06"]I guess he doesn't understand that some of the market wants more from a gaming experience than just a collection of mini-games and kiddy games. :| Way to alienate your hardcore fans Nintendo. :roll:foxhound_fox

• BWii: Battalion Wars 2
• Dewy's Adventure
• Disaster: Day of Crisis
• Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
• Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers
• Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn
• Forever Blue
• Kirby Adventure
• Mario Strikers Charged
• Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
• NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams
• No More Heroes
• Opoona
• Orb
• Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
• Project Treasure Island Z
• Super Smash Bros. Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy

Oh snap http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=56892

Isn't this posted already??

Also, didn't George say something like this a few months back? 

Stand back my fellow fanboys, and witness the return of Nintendo's arrogance.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Stand back my fellow fanboys, and witness the return of Nintendo's arrogance.Dreams-Visions

I was hoping Nintendo would lay low on the arrogance, while sales continued moving and alot more great great gaming titles began surfacing--leaving it all as a self-explanatory strategy. I guess it was inevitable.

I guess he doesn't understand that some of the market wants more from a gaming experience than just a collection of mini-games and kiddy games. :| Way to alienate your hardcore fans Nintendo. :roll:Baird-06

i agree with u. i dont have a wii, but i had an outing with one of m friends, and of course in his house his parents and some of their friends were playing a wii. the thing is that all they were playing was wii sports. after a while, the non-gaming community will get tired of the wii and the 360 or ps3 will overtake "the big N".

and just to clarify, i'm not saying all this cos i'm bitter, its just one of my predictions. 

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]Stand back my fellow fanboys, and witness the return of Nintendo's arrogance.Teufelhuhn

it almost cost them everything.  it cost them their market position is perennial leader and a bunch of important allies, as they all joined Sony.

[QUOTE="Harrison"]He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.thirstychainsaw

Irony.

:lol: next version of Mario? Metroid? Crappy Sonic games? Nintendo, I wouldn't even start to talk about "next-versions" hell, Wii isn't even the next version, it's a minorly amped up gamecube with a motion sensing controller. (Not trolling, just stating my views on the Wii)

Nintendo finally shows their arrogance because after the first few months their console is doing well.. let's see how this plays out in the long haul shall we?

Sixaxis and Viva Piñata were failed attempts to capture our consumer, says Harrison

[QUOTE=""]Sony's Sixaxis controller and Viva Piñata for Xbox 360 are both failed attempts to capture the traditional Nintendo customer, according to NoA boss George Harrison.

He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

"So far they haven't spent a lot of time focused on us. Now that we're having some success, they probably will," commented Harrison to Wired.

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA. They're really good at reaching a certain customer, and have a real difficulty understanding how we succeed with the customers that we have," said the senior vice president of marketing and communications.

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.

"If they only focus on the Grand Theft Autos and the Halos and things of that nature, they're focusing on a very tiny part of the market. The overall market is growing so dramatically that they're going to miss out on the opportunities that we're seeing in the expanded audience," he said.
Dreams-Visions

Damage

when they speak of Viva Pinata what consumer are they speaking about? children? and if so, does this confirm that the Wii is a kiddy system or not?

proud owner of Viva Pinata. ;)

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA."

:shock:

harrison spittin that hot molten lava at sony/MS! 

Honestly, I could care less.

Pokemon is clearly irrelevant to me, personally. Obviously, Nintendo has captured an untapped market who are "scared" to touch the Halos or GTAs, etc. Pokemons and other cutesy games are usually big hits on Nintendo consoles, I'm not surprise. Nintendo published games or 1st party games are usually big hitters. Especially among parents and kids. 

Viva pinata is nothing like Pokemon.

Nintendo might have a big lead in sales. But all the games that wil have ground breaking advances this gen will come from PC xbox 360 and PS3.

There is only so much waggle can do.

Power is needed for advancement in AI and physics too. Not just graphics.

Sixaxis and Viva Piñata were failed attempts to capture our consumer, says Harrison

[QUOTE=""]Sony's Sixaxis controller and Viva Piñata for Xbox 360 are both failed attempts to capture the traditional Nintendo customer, according to NoA boss George Harrison.

He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

"So far they haven't spent a lot of time focused on us. Now that we're having some success, they probably will," commented Harrison to Wired.

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA. They're really good at reaching a certain customer, and have a real difficulty understanding how we succeed with the customers that we have," said the senior vice president of marketing and communications.

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.

"If they only focus on the Grand Theft Autos and the Halos and things of that nature, they're focusing on a very tiny part of the market. The overall market is growing so dramatically that they're going to miss out on the opportunities that we're seeing in the expanded audience," he said.
Dreams-Visions

Damage

Viva Pinata failed? Name one third-party Nintendo game that has a higher average score than Viva Pinata.

Viva Pinata is produced by Microsoft...it was, in fact, created by Rare. Is this idiot insulting Rare? Perfect Dark? Goldeneye? Banjo Kazooie? Conker's Bad Fur Day? Yes, there was an age when Rare was producing 4 of the best-reviewed and best-recieved pieces of software on Nintendo platforms, but now that they're not, their "DNA" is messed up.

Maybe this guy can continue to shoot his mouth off when his platform gets a decent third-party game. Until then, let Shigeu Miyamoto and Miyamoto alone be the representative of the Nintendo platform, because he's the only guy keeping their franchise afloat. If it weren't for Zelda and Mario, he wouldn't have a business in the first place.

Plus, the audacity of claiming 50% of the market when he doesn't claim 50% of the market NOW is fairly ridiculous. Yes, you're getting great sales. But you'll never achieve on your aspirations if you don't meet demand....I would have bought a Wii...if I could have found one. A DS too. I guess you'll learn someday. At any rate, you can't predict the future, so why try?

He is not only insulting Microsoft and Sony (who, many would argue got it correct last generation, and many would argue Microsoft is in a moment of silent lucidity this generation), he is insulting Capcom, Insomniac, Rare, Infinity Ward, Bungie, Rockstar, Naughty Dog, Epic Games....in fact, he's insulting every game developer that ever attempted to make a technically astounding, traditional game. That's why he's a dingleberry and he should shut the hell up.

He is no game developer. He's a marketing rep. Let him spout his mouth, but he's no better than the marketing people for Sony you all apparently despise. 

At E3 this year when Sony and M$ show off a mountain of games while Nintendo just sits their stroking their Wiimotes we will see who "lacks DNA".miss_kitt3n

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sixaxis and Viva Piñata were failed attempts to capture our consumer, says Harrison

[QUOTE=""]Sony's Sixaxis controller and Viva Piñata for Xbox 360 are both failed attempts to capture the traditional Nintendo customer, according to NoA boss George Harrison.

He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

"So far they haven't spent a lot of time focused on us. Now that we're having some success, they probably will," commented Harrison to Wired.

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA. They're really good at reaching a certain customer, and have a real difficulty understanding how we succeed with the customers that we have," said the senior vice president of marketing and communications.

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.

"If they only focus on the Grand Theft Autos and the Halos and things of that nature, they're focusing on a very tiny part of the market. The overall market is growing so dramatically that they're going to miss out on the opportunities that we're seeing in the expanded audience," he said.
LEGEND_C4A

Damage

when they speak of Viva Pinata what consumer are they speaking about? children? and if so, does this confirm that the Wii is a kiddy system or not?

proud owner of Viva Pinata. ;)

Well...nobody can deny that Nintendo's primary audience is several years younger than Microsoft's or Sony's. 

Viva pinata is nothing like Pokemon.

Nintendo might have a big lead in sales. But all the games that wil have ground breaking advances this gen will come from PC xbox 360 and PS3 games.

There is only so much waggle can do.

Power is needed for advancement in AI and physics too. Not just graphics.

Gaara79

I tend to agree.  But don't sleep on Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. 

[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sixaxis and Viva Piñata were failed attempts to capture our consumer, says Harrison

[QUOTE=""]Sony's Sixaxis controller and Viva Piñata for Xbox 360 are both failed attempts to capture the traditional Nintendo customer, according to NoA boss George Harrison.

He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

"So far they haven't spent a lot of time focused on us. Now that we're having some success, they probably will," commented Harrison to Wired.

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA. They're really good at reaching a certain customer, and have a real difficulty understanding how we succeed with the customers that we have," said the senior vice president of marketing and communications.

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.

"If they only focus on the Grand Theft Autos and the Halos and things of that nature, they're focusing on a very tiny part of the market. The overall market is growing so dramatically that they're going to miss out on the opportunities that we're seeing in the expanded audience," he said.
Dreams-Visions

Damage

when they speak of Viva Pinata what consumer are they speaking about? children? and if so, does this confirm that the Wii is a kiddy system or not?

proud owner of Viva Pinata. ;)

Well...nobody can deny that Nintendo's primary audience is several years younger than Microsoft's or Sony's. 

true

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sixaxis and Viva Piñata were failed attempts to capture our consumer, says Harrison

[QUOTE=""]Sony's Sixaxis controller and Viva Piñata for Xbox 360 are both failed attempts to capture the traditional Nintendo customer, according to NoA boss George Harrison.

He believes that the two rival companies lack the "DNA" to understand a market that wants more from a gaming experience than just the next version of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

"So far they haven't spent a lot of time focused on us. Now that we're having some success, they probably will," commented Harrison to Wired.

"We can already see some of the things they've tried. For last year's E3, at the last minute, Sony rushed out their Sixaxis controller as an effort to respond to the Wii remote. We saw Microsoft roll out Viva Piñata as their killer app for the Pokemon set. And neither of those worked really well.

"Part of this is, I think it's not in their DNA. They're really good at reaching a certain customer, and have a real difficulty understanding how we succeed with the customers that we have," said the senior vice president of marketing and communications.

With the sales of Wii and DS hardware crushing the competition in the US, Harrison is confident that Nintendo could take up to as much as 50 per cent of the market for this latest 'next-gen' cycle.

"We also have a belief that we can be, of this lifecycle, 40-45 per cent of the hardware that's being sold. But on the other hand, we could get over 50 per cent. And a lot of that depends on what our competitors do," he stated.

"If they only focus on the Grand Theft Autos and the Halos and things of that nature, they're focusing on a very tiny part of the market. The overall market is growing so dramatically that they're going to miss out on the opportunities that we're seeing in the expanded audience," he said.
LEGEND_C4A

Damage

What consumer are they speaking about? children? and if so, does this confirm that the Wii is a kiddy system or not?

he meant non-gamers

like your mom, sister, girl, etc...

actually, it seems like the wii is reaching more mature gamers than both PS3 and 360 are reaching

middle aged women at work are talking about this thing - nintendo has reached a new market that sony/MS just can't reach with their hardcore-gamer consoles