The CELL is a COMPLETE FAILURE!!! Sony go back to the DRAWLING BOARD!!!

YUP it really is. It failed when they tried to use 2 in the PS3 to do the graphics. So Sony had to run To Nvidia and settle for that weak RSX.

And then even still using one CELL in the PS3 it it bottle necked like crazy by the limited L2 cache. And then to make matters worse then had to shut down one of the SPE's. And it was trying to run at 4gigs but it was extremely unstable and melting test units in testing.

If this CELL was so powerful like Sony has claimed then lets forget all the WAIT WAIT WAIT BS for developers need time. If it is so much more powerful as Sony led all it's worshipers to believe. Then it would at best be on pace and at least even with the 360 duel core CPU. BUT IT'S NOT!!! It can't even keep up with the 360 CPU it suffers from frame rate issues in many games with lesser graphics.

At best it seems what Sony can hope for at this point is that someday the CELL will just be able to get up to SNUFF to be at what the 360 CPU is now. And by then the 360 would pull further ahead of the learning development curve anyway. So the CELL will continue it's FAILURE TREND for the complete duration of the PS3'S lifespan. Oh and why not throw salt in the CELL'S wounds Sony and cripple it some more with your limited 256 ram design flaws.

What does this chalk up to the CELL=COMPLETE FAILURE.

Someone remind me again how long the PS3 has been out again.

P.S. This is coming from someone who's a critic of the PS3.

So, what you are saying is devs don't need TIME?

I look back at Halo then at Halo 2, Chronicles of Riddick, and NG, and I can see that TIME IS GOOD.

I don't care about cell, ps3, or whatever, but your one part about TIME is lame.

I'd love to have an actual technical discussion of the Cell and how it can/can't be applied to gaming consoles...but not with you.Teufelhuhn

Why not i just SUMMED it all up in TRUTH. Just not in a nerdy way i gave it to you in the CLEAR STREET SLANG TRUTH.

What's a DRAWLING BOARD?trix5817

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'd love to have an actual technical discussion of the Cell and how it can/can't be applied to gaming consoles...but not with you.GamerGuy07360

Why not i just SUMMED it all up in TRUTH. Just not in a nerdy way i gave it to you in the CLEAR STREET SLANG TRUTH.

The Cell is a failure huh? Is that why Apple's rumored to be incorporating multiple cell processors into one of their upcoming products? :roll:PikaPichu

YUP it really is. It failed when they tried to use 2 in the PS3 to do the graphics. So Sony had to run To Nvidia and settle for that weak RSX.

And then even still using one CELL in the PS3 it it bottle necked like crazy by the limited L2 cache. And then to make matters worse then had to shut down one of the SPE's. And it was trying to run at 4gigs but it was extremely unstable and melting test units in testing.

If this CELL was so powerful like Sony has claimed then lets forget all the WAIT WAIT WAIT BS for developers need time. If it is so much more powerful as Sony led all it's worshipers to believe. Then it would at best be on pace and at least even with the 360 duel core CPU. BUT IT'S NOT!!! It can't even keep up with the 360 CPU it suffers from frame rate issues in many games with lesser graphics.

At best it seems what Sony can hope for at this point is that someday the CELL will just be able to get up to SNUFF to be at what the 360 CPU is now. And by then the 360 would pull further ahead of the learning development curve anyway. So the CELL will continue it's FAILURE TREND for the complete duration of the PS3'S lifespan. Oh and why not throw salt in the CELL'S wounds Sony and cripple it some more with your limited 256 ram design flaws.

What does this chalk up to the CELL=COMPLETE FAILURE.

GamerGuy07360

Agree,

The Cell is like eating soup with a fork,

You put in 3 times the effort to get the same result as you would with the 360's Xenon.
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You summed it up very well.

[QUOTE="PikaPichu"]The Cell is a failure huh? Is that why Apple's rumored to be incorporating multiple cell processors into one of their upcoming products? :roll:CYBORG5

No offense to the PS fans but it's not a matter of time. It's a simple matter of a committed flawed hardware design. You cannot get around the simple fact that only 256 mb are dedicated as video RAM and that in order to use more RAM to process video developers have to tap RAM allocated for other uses. This slows down cycle speed and means they have to find ways to cut corners in order to compensate. Typically decent mapping has to take a hit.CarlosPontinas

The cell is the emotion engine 2.0.. a lot of promise and boosting but nothing to back thier claims...JustAGamer01

[QUOTE="CYBORG5"][QUOTE="PikaPichu"]The Cell is a failure huh? Is that why Apple's rumored to be incorporating multiple cell processors into one of their upcoming products? :roll:PikaPichu

Come back when you've actually worked with it; before you call it a failure.

And i'm guessing that's never.

[QUOTE="PikaPichu"][QUOTE="CYBORG5"][QUOTE="PikaPichu"]The Cell is a failure huh? Is that why Apple's rumored to be incorporating multiple cell processors into one of their upcoming products? :roll:thirstychainsaw

Yes thank you we already know the Cell is good at video editing type stuff not many people try to dispute this.

But it's a TURD for gaming.

[QUOTE="CYBORG5"][QUOTE="PikaPichu"]The Cell is a failure huh? Is that why Apple's rumored to be incorporating multiple cell processors into one of their upcoming products? :roll:PikaPichu

LOL Drawling boarddonut349

[QUOTE="PikaPichu"][QUOTE="CYBORG5"][QUOTE="PikaPichu"]The Cell is a failure huh? Is that why Apple's rumored to be incorporating multiple cell processors into one of their upcoming products? :roll:CYBORG5

The 360 actually has a tri-core processor.... And i love your little "i gave it in street-slang TRUTH!" comment. I for one am often found on the corner of ma' hood, discussing the advantages and disadvantages of the cell processor within gaming with my "homies".Ninja-Vox

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]No offense to the PS fans but it's not a matter of time. It's a simple matter of a committed flawed hardware design. You cannot get around the simple fact that only 256 mb are dedicated as video RAM and that in order to use more RAM to process video developers have to tap RAM allocated for other uses. This slows down cycle speed and means they have to find ways to cut corners in order to compensate. Typically decent mapping has to take a hit.Teufelhuhn

The 360 actually has a tri-core processor.... And i love your little "i gave it in street-slang TRUTH!" comment. I for one am often found on the corner of ma' hood, discussing the advantages and disadvantages of the cell processor within gaming with my "homies".Ninja-Vox

Yeah i know i meant from the get go that it is a 3, 2 core design

I'd love to have an actual technical discussion of the Cell and how it can/can't be applied to gaming consoles...but not with you.Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]No offense to the PS fans but it's not a matter of time. It's a simple matter of a committed flawed hardware design. You cannot get around the simple fact that only 256 mb are dedicated as video RAM and that in order to use more RAM to process video developers have to tap RAM allocated for other uses. This slows down cycle speed and means they have to find ways to cut corners in order to compensate. Typically decent mapping has to take a hit.CarlosPontinas

Yes this is the TRUTH how you said it and when said like this it really takes the air out of the COWS BELLY when put this way.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]No offense to the PS fans but it's not a matter of time. It's a simple matter of a committed flawed hardware design. You cannot get around the simple fact that only 256 mb are dedicated as video RAM and that in order to use more RAM to process video developers have to tap RAM allocated for other uses. This slows down cycle speed and means they have to find ways to cut corners in order to compensate. Typically decent mapping has to take a hit.CarlosPontinas

YUP it really is. It failed when they tried to use 2 in the PS3 to do the graphics. So Sony had to run To Nvidia and settle for that weak RSX.

And then even still using one CELL in the PS3 it it bottle necked like crazy by the limited L2 cache. And then to make matters worse then had to shut down one of the SPE's. And it was trying to run at 4gigs but it was extremely unstable and melting test units in testing.

If this CELL was so powerful like Sony has claimed then lets forget all the WAIT WAIT WAIT BS for developers need time. If it is so much more powerful as Sony led all it's worshipers to believe. Then it would at best be on pace and at least even with the 360 duel core CPU. BUT IT'S NOT!!! It can't even keep up with the 360 CPU it suffers from frame rate issues in many games with lesser graphics.

At best it seems what Sony can hope for at this point is that someday the CELL will just be able to get up to SNUFF to be at what the 360 CPU is now. And by then the 360 would pull further ahead of the learning development curve anyway. So the CELL will continue it's FAILURE TREND for the complete duration of the PS3'S lifespan. Oh and why not throw salt in the CELL'S wounds Sony and cripple it some more with your limited 256 ram design flaws.

What does this chalk up to the CELL=COMPLETE FAILURE.

GamerGuy07360

I'd love to have an actual technical discussion of the Cell and how it can/can't be applied to gaming consoles...but not with you.Teufelhuhn

Although the Playstation 3 GPU does technically have access to the CPU System RAM, it is VERY important to remember that the CPU RAM is NOT optimized to work with the GPU; that is NOT its primary function.

CarlosPontinas

Whenever there is a need to use more than 256MB of Video RAM, the Playstation 3 is at a MAJOR disadvantage when compared to the Xbox 360, because the Non-VRAM CPU System RAM of the Playstation 3 offers a very ineffient level of performance when used by the GPU, simply because of the fact that the CPU System RAM is NOT a form of fully optimized Video-RAM.

CarlosPontinas

You're just saying the same thing again, so I'll bring up another point:  the 360's unified GDDR3 memory isn't optimized for CPU usage (its high-latency, high-frequency memory designed for texture reads) yet it gets along fine.

And no matter what happens, the Playstation 3 GPU can NEVER use more than 256MB of dedicated Video-RAM that is optimized to be used as Video RAM.

CarlosPontinas

LOL Drawling boarddonut349

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'd love to have an actual technical discussion of the Cell and how it can/can't be applied to gaming consoles...but not with you.mwa