The colors of Xbox 360: Why the PS3 is the much, much better choice

WHITE: THE COLOR OF FEAR

When we are scared, our blood rushes away from our face, making us look pale. The 360 looking so white reminds me that it has plenty to fear:

1) Fear of dying (RROD)

2) Fear of future games. The 360 had several good exclusives during its last two years. But now things are looking bleak. It upcoming exclusives, apart from Gears 2, are basically lesser known, lesser anticipated games--none with the ability to significantly move consoles. Just about every industry analyst worth his salt has said the 360 will have inferior games to the PS3 in 2008.

3) Fear of maxed out capabilities. In 2008, what game has Xbox fans used consistently as the standard bearer of amazing graphics? Gears of War! Yes, a 2006 game. After dozens and dozens of games since the 2006, not a single game on the 360 has topped Gears of War. If this is not a sign that the 360 has maxed out or is very closed to being maxed out, I don't know what is.

4) Fear of Xbox 720 coming out too soon. Rumors of Xbox 720 coming in 2009 or 2010 has surfaced. Halo 4 is nowhere in sight (Perhaps Microsoft is holding out for the 720). RROD is still not fixed. Japan has already dug a grave for the 360. Europe is digging or threatening to dig one now (that's why there's a price drop), every month in 2008 the USA has seen the 360 beaten by the PS3 in sales. This fear is truly justified.

5) Fear of abandonment. So far Microsoft is known to ignore, abandon its older child when a new born arrives. Remember the first Xbox and how much support it gets after Xbox 360 came out? Yep. Insignificant support. What happens to the 360 when the 720 comes out? If you take history seriously, the 360 has reasons to fear.

6)Fear of low resale Value. Who wants to buy a used console that is the most unreliable in the history of console gaming? People who buy used consoles or games are probably too cheap to pay for LIVE fees. So it's gonna be hard to sell the 360 console or games when moving up to the 720, which seems to come out pretty soon. And that HD-DVD add-on? Yeah. You know what I mean.

RED: THE COLOR OF DANGER

1) Red stands for Warning: Console is Unreliable. Think about certain species of snakes. The red color means danger. Fortunately, the 360 is not dangerous to the gamer, but to itself (Red Ring of Death) and to its DVDs (disk scratching--to be fair this problem is not as prevalent).

2) Red is also the color of dangerous flames. Flames burn. LIVE fees burn your wallet. 50 dollars a year. 250 dollars in 5 years, more if you include interests. This makes the 360 a more expensive console to own than the PS3, if you play online that is!!! Why buy the 360 if don't want to play on-line?

3) Which gaming company this generation is most likely to burn in hell? Microsoft. It caused the most suffering, anger, and resentment. Microsoft has lied, denied, and still do about the reliability of its consoles. 3-5% failure rate? Liar! Objective analysis have come up with as high as 33% failure rate. Microsoft also lied when it says HD-DVD was the best for consumers. 300,000 gamers suffered because Microsoft. An unecessary format war lasted more than a year because of Microsoft. So yeah, Microsoft is without a doubt the most evil company this generation.

GREEN: THE COLOR OF ENVY

1) Envy of the PS3's power. The PS3 is the most powerful console on the planet. Xbox 360 fans might say, but it's pretty much the same. Games look pretty much the same. To me this denial is just another form of envy. Especially in 2008. If you look at Grant Tourismo 5 and not see the PS3's superior power, well, you should examine the integrity of your character. Will there ever be a good looking game on the 360 with 60 players online? On the PS3 there's Resistance 2.

2) Envy of the PS3's larger Blu-ray disk. The 360 uses last-gen DVD9. Disk swapping remains an issue. For some genres, Large and long games with amazing graphics are impossible or impratical on the 360. If you are a sound snob, you might not want the 360. HD sounds take up too much space for the 360's DVD9, but not for PS3's Blu-ray disk.

3)Envy of the PS3's Blu-ray movies. If you want the best versions of the movies, 1080p, HD sounds, Interactive extras, you can only find them on Blu-ray.

4)Envy of PS3 owners having a Blu-ray date. PS3 owners have a peace of mind knowing that they allow their girls to watch the the BEST versions of the movies at the privacy of their rooms. This is not to say that physical and personal compatibilities are less important than a Blu-ray player. They are more important. But a girl always appreciates it when you get her the best of anything, including movie qualities.

5) Envy of the PS3's exlusives. Exclusives that don't go to the PC. Exclusives that have a long, respectable hisory: Gran Tourismo, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Tekken, etc. Plus other exclusives like MJB 2008: The Show (The best baseball game in the market today), Resistance 2 and it's huge multiplayer and innovative co-op gameplay, Killzone 2, Little Big Plannet, etc.

6) Envy of HOME. Not out yet. But it's like a free game that's always evolving, always there on the console. A next-generation place to see and be seen.

7) Envy of the PS3's love all over the world. Yep, the world loves the PS3 more. The US is starting to love the PS3 more, too.

8 ) Envy of the PS3's silence. During that part of the game or movie when silence is suspenseful, the 360's buzzing sound can be quite disruptive and annoying.

This post might seem biased towards the PS3, but the lists are reasonable, and the implications are clear. The PS3 is simply the better choice. Xbox 360 fans can only use past games in their argument for so long. This is already 2008. Bigger and better games are starting to come out. So far the best 2008 games are on the PS3, and the future looks much, much brighter for the PS3 than the 360.

Oh god, don't make me rip your post apart and pwn you again....Nagidar

You forgot:

P**P: THE COLOR OF THE HALO 3 SKU

All true. Feel sorry for X360 owners who bought into the MS hype machine. I did last gen, didn't work out to well.

"Flames burn. LIVE fees burn your wallet. 50 dollars a month."

odd..im paying 50 dollars a year :roll:

"Flames burn. LIVE fees burn your wallet. 50 dollars a month."

odd..im paying 50 dollars a year :roll:

lawlessx

Corrected. thanks.

"Flames burn. LIVE fees burn your wallet. 50 dollars a month."

odd..im paying 50 dollars a year :roll:

lawlessx

Of all the stuff there, that's the bit that you choose to comment on? Not the fact that this thread seriously says we should base purchasing decision on the fact that flames are red?

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

"Flames burn. LIVE fees burn your wallet. 50 dollars a month."

odd..im paying 50 dollars a year :roll:

SpigleyMcCheese

Of all the stuff there, that's the bit that you choose to comment on? Not the fact that this thread seriously says we should base purchasing decision on the fact that flames are red?

i see no real point in attacking this thread or any type of thread like this seriously. never really does anything but feed the TC's ego and increase his blind fanboyism.

The 360 comes in Black as well, so you instantly failed there.

1. I'm not saying the RRoD is false, but I do know its fakeable. (I've done it myself)

2. "Just wait..." gotcha.

3. You do know on paper the Xenos has more raw graphical power than the RSX, right?

4. In case you haven't heard, both SONY and MS are predicted to release a console around 2010 and 2011. BTW, in 2011 will be 5 years for the 360, the average lifespan for a game console is *GASP* 5 years!

5. MS lost too much money on the Xbox, 4 billion dollars, the Xbox was meant to introduce the brand, which is what it did, nothing more. The 360 was meant to aquire an install base and the 720 is suppose to take over the console market, apparently, this is a 3 step plan put in place by MS.

6. PS2 DRE was MUCH worse than the RRoD, check your facts before spewing garbage out of your face hole, SONY wouldn't do anything about it and made customers pay to repair their PS2's untill SONY was threatened with a law suit.

7. Again, refer to the PS2.

8. The PS3 has the most theroretical power, but is hard to develope for and horribly inefficient compared to the 360.

9. BluRay has yet to prove its neccesity this Gen, the ONLY reason games are using so much space on a BR disc is because the games are UN-compressed and they put 7865784 languages on it.

10. The PS3 doesn't own BluRay movies (Instant failure here as well), you can buy much better BluRay players than the PS3.

11. "Just wait..." and this is also a matter of opinion.

12. Home is not a game, its an interactive enviornment for PSN users to meet up and do whatever. Cool idea, but not needed.

13. My 360 doesn't "buzz", do you even own one?

And finally, no, they are not reasonable, they ARE bias, but thats what we expect from a fanboy.

WHITE: THE COLOR OF FEAR

When we are scared, our blood rushes away from our face, making us look pale. The 360 looking so white reminds me that it has plenty to fear:

1) Fear of dying (RROD)

2) Fear of future games. The 360 had several good exclusives during its last two years. But now things are looking bleak. It upcoming exclusives, apart from Gears 2, are basically lesser known, lesser anticipated games--none with the ability to significantly move consoles. Just about every industry analyst worth his salt has said the 360 will have inferior games to the PS3 in 2008.

3) Fear of maxed out capabilities. In 2008, what game has Xbox fans used consistently as the standard bearer of amazing graphics? Gears of War! Yes, a 2006 game. After dozens and dozens of games since the 2006, not a single game on the 360 has topped Gears of War. If this is not a sign that the 360 has maxed out or is very closed to being maxed out, I don't know what is.

4) Fear of Xbox 720 coming out too soon. Rumors of Xbox 720 coming in 2009 or 2010 has surfaced. Halo 4 is nowhere in sight (Perhaps Microsoft is holding out for the 720). RROD is still not fixed. Japan has already dug a grave for the 360. Europe is digging is threatening to dig one now (that's why there's a price drop), every month in 2008 has seen the 360 beaten by the PS3 in sales. This fear is truly justified.

5) Fear of abandonment. So far Microsoft is known to ignore, abandon its older child when a new born arrives. Remember the first Xbox and how much support it gets after Xbox 360 came out? Yep. Insignificant support. What happens to the 360 when the 720 comes out? If you take history seriously, the 360 has reasons to fear.

6)Fear of low resale Value. Who wants to buy a used console that is the most unreliable in the history of console gaming? People who buy used consoles or games are probably too cheap to pay for LIVE fees. So it's gonna be hard to sell the 360 console or games when moving up to the 720, which seems to come out pretty soon. And that HD-DVD add-on? Yeah. You know what I mean.

RED: THE COLOR OF DANGER

1) Red stands for Warning: Console is Unreliable. Think about certain species of snakes. The red color means danger. Fortunately, the 360 is not dangerous to the gamer, but to itself (Red Ring of Death) and to its DVDs (disk scratching--to be fair this problem is not as prevalent).

2) Red is also the color of dangerous flames. Flames burn. LIVE fees burn your wallet. 50 dollars a month. 250 dollars in 5 years, more if you include interests. This makes the 360 a more expensive console to own than the PS3, if you play online that is!!! Why buy the 360 if don't want to play on-line?

3) Which gaming company this generation is most likely to burn in hell? Microsoft. It caused the most suffering, anger, and resentment. Microsoft has lied, denied, and still do about the reliability of its consoles. 3-5% failure rate? Liar! Objective analysis have come up with as high as 33% failure rate. Microsoft also lied when it says HD-DVD was the best for consumers. 300,000 gamers suffered because Microsoft. An unecessary format war lasted more than a year because of Microsoft. So yeah, Microsoft is without a doubt the most evil company this generation.

GREEN: THE COLOR OF ENVY

1) Envy of the PS3's power. The PS3 is the most powerful console on the planet. Xbox 360 fans might say, but it's pretty much the same. Games look pretty much the same. To me this denial is just another form of envy. Especially in 2008. If you look at Grant Tourismo 5 and not see the PS3's superior power, well, you should examine the integrity of your character. Will there ever be a good looking game on the 360 with 60 players online? On the PS3 there's Resistance 2.

2) Envy of the PS3's larger Blu-ray disk. The 360 uses last-gen DVD9. Disk swapping remains an issue. For some genres, Large and long games with amazing graphics are impossible or impratical on the 360. If you are a sound snob, you might not want the 360. HD sounds take up too much space for the 360's DVD9, but not for PS3's Blu-ray disk.

3)Envy of the PS3's Blu-ray movies. If you want the best versions of the movies, 1080p, HD sounds, Interactive extras, you can only find them on Blu-ray.

4)Envy of PS3 owners having a Blu-ray date. PS3 owners have a peace of mind knowing that they allow their girls to watch the the BEST versions of the movies at the privacy of their rooms. This is not to say that physical and personal compatibilities are less important than a Blu-ray player. They are more important. But a girl always appreciates it when you get her the best of anything, including movie qualities.

5) Envy of the PS3's exlusives. Exclusives that don't go to the PC. Exclusives that have a long, respectable hisory: Gran Tourismo, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Tekken, etc. Plus other exclusives like MJB 2008: The Show (The best baseball game in the market today), Resistance 2 and it's huge multiplayer and innovative co-op gameplay, Killzone 2, Little Big Plannet, etc.

6) Envy of HOME. Not out yet. But it's like a free game that's always evolving, always there on the console. A next-generation place to see and be seen.

7) Envy of the PS3's love all over the world. Yep, the world loves the PS3 more. The US is starting to love the PS3 more, too.

8 ) Envy of the PS3's silence. During that part of the game or movie when silence is suspenseful, the 360's buzzing sound can be quite disruptive and annoying.

This post might seem biased towards the PS3, but the lists are reasonable, and the implications are clear. The PS3 is simply the better choice. Xbox 360 fans can only use past games in their argument for so long. This is already 2008. Bigger and better games are starting to come out. So far the best 2008 games are on the PS3, and the future looks much, much brighter for the PS3 than the 360.

Sihanouk

At least lems don't have to make 10+ threads everyday to justify their console and they don't feel insecure about their purchase.

The 360 comes in Black as well, so you instantly failed there.

1. I'm not saying the RRoD is false, but I do know its fakeable. (I've done it myself.

2. "Just wait..." gotcha.

3. You do know on paper the Xenos has more raw graphical power than the RSX, right?

4. In case you haven't heard, both SONY and MS are predicted to release a console around 2010 and 2011. BTW, in 2011 will be 5 years for the 360, the average lifespan for a game console is *GASP* 5 years!

5. MS lost too much money on the Xbox, 4 billion dollars, the Xbox was meant to introduce the brand, which is what it did, nothing more. The 360 was meant to aquire an install base and the 720 is suppose to take over the console market, apparently, this is a 3 step plan put in place by MS.

6. PS2 DRE was MUCH worse than the RRoD, check your facts before spewing garbage out of your face hole, SONY wouldn't do anything about it and made customers pay to repair their PS2's untill SONY was threatened with a law suit.

7. Again, refer to the PS2.

8. The PS3 has the most theroretical power, but is hard to develope for and horribly inefficient compared to the 360.

9. BluRay has yet to prove its neccesity this Gen, the ONLY reason games are using so much space on a BR disc is because the games are UN-compressed and they put 7865784 languages on it.

10. The PS3 doesn't own BluRay movies (Instant failure here as well), you can buy much better BluRay players than the PS3.

11. "Just wait..." and this is also a matter of opinion.

12. Home is not a game, its an interactive enviornment for PSN users to meet up and do whatever. Cool idea, but not needed.

13. My 360 doesn't "buzz", do you even own one?

And finally, no, they are not reasonable, they ARE bias, but thats what we expect from a fanboy.

Nagidar

First, let me ask you: Which is more reasonable and objective? Your post or mine? I am appealing to the good character in you as you try to answer me.

This thread is brown, the colour of .......csliney

:lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The 360 comes in Black as well, so you instantly failed there.

1. I'm not saying the RRoD is false, but I do know its fakeable. (I've done it myself.

2. "Just wait..." gotcha.

3. You do know on paper the Xenos has more raw graphical power than the RSX, right?

4. In case you haven't heard, both SONY and MS are predicted to release a console around 2010 and 2011. BTW, in 2011 will be 5 years for the 360, the average lifespan for a game console is *GASP* 5 years!

5. MS lost too much money on the Xbox, 4 billion dollars, the Xbox was meant to introduce the brand, which is what it did, nothing more. The 360 was meant to aquire an install base and the 720 is suppose to take over the console market, apparently, this is a 3 step plan put in place by MS.

6. PS2 DRE was MUCH worse than the RRoD, check your facts before spewing garbage out of your face hole, SONY wouldn't do anything about it and made customers pay to repair their PS2's untill SONY was threatened with a law suit.

7. Again, refer to the PS2.

8. The PS3 has the most theroretical power, but is hard to develope for and horribly inefficient compared to the 360.

9. BluRay has yet to prove its neccesity this Gen, the ONLY reason games are using so much space on a BR disc is because the games are UN-compressed and they put 7865784 languages on it.

10. The PS3 doesn't own BluRay movies (Instant failure here as well), you can buy much better BluRay players than the PS3.

11. "Just wait..." and this is also a matter of opinion.

12. Home is not a game, its an interactive enviornment for PSN users to meet up and do whatever. Cool idea, but not needed.

13. My 360 doesn't "buzz", do you even own one?

And finally, no, they are not reasonable, they ARE bias, but thats what we expect from a fanboy.

Sihanouk

First, let me ask you: Which is more reasonable and objective? Your post or mine? I am appealing to the good character in you as you try to answer me.

i STARTED ignoring when he said DRE was worse than RROD

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The 360 comes in Black as well, so you instantly failed there.

1. I'm not saying the RRoD is false, but I do know its fakeable. (I've done it myself.

2. "Just wait..." gotcha.

3. You do know on paper the Xenos has more raw graphical power than the RSX, right?

4. In case you haven't heard, both SONY and MS are predicted to release a console around 2010 and 2011. BTW, in 2011 will be 5 years for the 360, the average lifespan for a game console is *GASP* 5 years!

5. MS lost too much money on the Xbox, 4 billion dollars, the Xbox was meant to introduce the brand, which is what it did, nothing more. The 360 was meant to aquire an install base and the 720 is suppose to take over the console market, apparently, this is a 3 step plan put in place by MS.

6. PS2 DRE was MUCH worse than the RRoD, check your facts before spewing garbage out of your face hole, SONY wouldn't do anything about it and made customers pay to repair their PS2's untill SONY was threatened with a law suit.

7. Again, refer to the PS2.

8. The PS3 has the most theroretical power, but is hard to develope for and horribly inefficient compared to the 360.

9. BluRay has yet to prove its neccesity this Gen, the ONLY reason games are using so much space on a BR disc is because the games are UN-compressed and they put 7865784 languages on it.

10. The PS3 doesn't own BluRay movies (Instant failure here as well), you can buy much better BluRay players than the PS3.

11. "Just wait..." and this is also a matter of opinion.

12. Home is not a game, its an interactive enviornment for PSN users to meet up and do whatever. Cool idea, but not needed.

13. My 360 doesn't "buzz", do you even own one?

And finally, no, they are not reasonable, they ARE bias, but thats what we expect from a fanboy.

Sihanouk

First, let me ask you: Which is more reasonable and objective? Your post or mine? I am appealing to the good character in you as you try to answer me.

I was giving non bias responses to your statements and you have nothing to say about it except that? Wow, thanks for accepting it like a man.

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The 360 comes in Black as well, so you instantly failed there.

1. I'm not saying the RRoD is false, but I do know its fakeable. (I've done it myself.

2. "Just wait..." gotcha.

3. You do know on paper the Xenos has more raw graphical power than the RSX, right?

4. In case you haven't heard, both SONY and MS are predicted to release a console around 2010 and 2011. BTW, in 2011 will be 5 years for the 360, the average lifespan for a game console is *GASP* 5 years!

5. MS lost too much money on the Xbox, 4 billion dollars, the Xbox was meant to introduce the brand, which is what it did, nothing more. The 360 was meant to aquire an install base and the 720 is suppose to take over the console market, apparently, this is a 3 step plan put in place by MS.

6. PS2 DRE was MUCH worse than the RRoD, check your facts before spewing garbage out of your face hole, SONY wouldn't do anything about it and made customers pay to repair their PS2's untill SONY was threatened with a law suit.

7. Again, refer to the PS2.

8. The PS3 has the most theroretical power, but is hard to develope for and horribly inefficient compared to the 360.

9. BluRay has yet to prove its neccesity this Gen, the ONLY reason games are using so much space on a BR disc is because the games are UN-compressed and they put 7865784 languages on it.

10. The PS3 doesn't own BluRay movies (Instant failure here as well), you can buy much better BluRay players than the PS3.

11. "Just wait..." and this is also a matter of opinion.

12. Home is not a game, its an interactive enviornment for PSN users to meet up and do whatever. Cool idea, but not needed.

13. My 360 doesn't "buzz", do you even own one?

And finally, no, they are not reasonable, they ARE bias, but thats what we expect from a fanboy.

Lebron181

First, let me ask you: Which is more reasonable and objective? Your post or mine? I am appealing to the good character in you as you try to answer me.

i STARTED ignoring when he said DRE was worse than RROD

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

Nagidar

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Too long, didn't read. It looks like you took a lot of time to make that though.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

killerfist

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Exactly, I had 2 DRE's on my PS2's, I haven't had any trouble with my current PS2, thank god.

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

Nagidar

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Exactly, I had 2 DRE's on my PS2's, I haven't had any trouble with my current PS2, thank god.

Err..same with RROD, cept the Lawsuit part, Microsoft also denied RROD. The interwebs caught fire about RROD. The difference is PS2s had shoddy manufacturing, the 360 has a shoddy design. Also, RROD turned up earlier while DRE took quite a while to turn up which explains the disparity in response times to both crisis.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

thrones

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Exactly, I had 2 DRE's on my PS2's, I haven't had any trouble with my current PS2, thank god.

Err..same with RROD, cept the Lawsuit part, Microsoft also denied RROD. The interwebs caught fire about RROD. The difference is PS2s had shoddy manufacturing, the 360 has a shoddy design. Also, RROD turned up earlier while DRE took quite a while to turn up which explains the disparity in response times to both crisis.

I had my launch PS2 DRE on me within 2 months, than, my next one within 4 months. I also had a 360 RRoD on me, but that didn't happen untill a year and a 1/2 after I bought it. (Launch consoles for both)

All true. Feel sorry for X360 owners who bought into the MS hype machine. I did last gen, didn't work out to well.

EmperorSupreme

Cow agreeing with cow.......we all know which was the overhyped console here. The PS3 has the most pathetic launch and underdelivered(remember that MGS4 was going to be a lunch game?). Also i don't beleive you had a xbox in the first place.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

thrones

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Exactly, I had 2 DRE's on my PS2's, I haven't had any trouble with my current PS2, thank god.

Err..same with RROD, cept the Lawsuit part, Microsoft also denied RROD. The interwebs caught fire about RROD. The difference is PS2s had shoddy manufacturing, the 360 has a shoddy design. Also, RROD turned up earlier while DRE took quite a while to turn up which explains the disparity in response times to both crisis.

DVD technology was new back then so it's a little more understandable with Sony. Microsoft has no excuses. Keep in mind Sony actually fixed the units, Microsoft just repairs them. There is no fix, the X360 you get back has the same exact defect as the X360 you sent in. Which is the reason why quite a few people have gone thru two, three, four and more. Also PS2 defect rate was far lower than the RROD. A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

EmperorSupreme

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Exactly, I had 2 DRE's on my PS2's, I haven't had any trouble with my current PS2, thank god.

Err..same with RROD, cept the Lawsuit part, Microsoft also denied RROD. The interwebs caught fire about RROD. The difference is PS2s had shoddy manufacturing, the 360 has a shoddy design. Also, RROD turned up earlier while DRE took quite a while to turn up which explains the disparity in response times to both crisis.

DVD technology was new back then so it's a little more understandable with Sony. Microsoft has no excuses. Keep in mind Sony actually fixed the units, Microsoft just repairs them. There is no fix, the X360 you get back has the same exact defect as the X360 you sent in. Which is the reason why quite a few people have gone thru two, three, four and more. Also PS2 defect rate was far lower than the RROD. A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Really?

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

The 360 comes in Black as well, so you instantly failed there.

1. I'm not saying the RRoD is false, but I do know its fakeable. (I've done it myself.

2. "Just wait..." gotcha.

3. You do know on paper the Xenos has more raw graphical power than the RSX, right?

4. In case you haven't heard, both SONY and MS are predicted to release a console around 2010 and 2011. BTW, in 2011 will be 5 years for the 360, the average lifespan for a game console is *GASP* 5 years!

5. MS lost too much money on the Xbox, 4 billion dollars, the Xbox was meant to introduce the brand, which is what it did, nothing more. The 360 was meant to aquire an install base and the 720 is suppose to take over the console market, apparently, this is a 3 step plan put in place by MS.

6. PS2 DRE was MUCH worse than the RRoD, check your facts before spewing garbage out of your face hole, SONY wouldn't do anything about it and made customers pay to repair their PS2's untill SONY was threatened with a law suit.

7. Again, refer to the PS2.

8. The PS3 has the most theroretical power, but is hard to develope for and horribly inefficient compared to the 360.

9. BluRay has yet to prove its neccesity this Gen, the ONLY reason games are using so much space on a BR disc is because the games are UN-compressed and they put 7865784 languages on it.

10. The PS3 doesn't own BluRay movies (Instant failure here as well), you can buy much better BluRay players than the PS3.

11. "Just wait..." and this is also a matter of opinion.

12. Home is not a game, its an interactive enviornment for PSN users to meet up and do whatever. Cool idea, but not needed.

13. My 360 doesn't "buzz", do you even own one?

And finally, no, they are not reasonable, they ARE bias, but thats what we expect from a fanboy.

Lebron181

First, let me ask you: Which is more reasonable and objective? Your post or mine? I am appealing to the good character in you as you try to answer me.

i STARTED ignoring when he said DRE was worse than RROD

DRE was worse than RROD. You do know that it took a class action law suit to make sony admit its faults. I had to go through four PS2s for DRE and they charged me 100 bucks to fix it each time(the fourth time i bought a slim) and it actually took them 4yrs(during Halo 2 launch) to completely fix DRE and get a 2% failure rate on the PS2.

A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

EmperorSupreme

You know what, I think it's a interesting analogy. I feel that way about 360 fans who refuse to see the reality that's infront of them.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Sihanouk

You know what, I think it's a interesting analogy. I feel that way about 360 fans who refuse to see the reality that's infront of them.

Who is the one not seeing reality? The fanboy or the non-fanboy? My eyes are open, are yours?

i feel sorry for this guy he look desparate !legol1

Well when your a Cow desperation is all you have

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Nagidar

You know what, I think it's a interesting analogy. I feel that way about 360 fans who refuse to see the reality that's infront of them.

Who is the one not seeing reality? The fanboy or the non-fanboy? My eyes are open, are yours?

Dude, your eyes are open, but you are wearing glasses that are tainted with denial and fanboyism, judging from the you respond to my post. If you take systems war too seriously, you are bound to be disappointed.

Despite its early lead, the 360 is in a much worse shape than the PS3. The more you hang out in this forum, the more you will see better news for the PS3 than the 360. Repeated sad news and continuing denials aren't good for the mental health. Seriously.

1) Some consumers have heard about the RROD and it may steer them away from buying a 360.

2) Consumers that like video games and LOVE home theater, may go the PS3 route because of the extra value add of blu-ray.

There, I just reiterated your entire post in 2 sentences. Everything else in your post was complete crap.

PS3 has a yellow light too

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Sihanouk

You know what, I think it's a interesting analogy. I feel that way about 360 fans who refuse to see the reality that's infront of them.

Who is the one not seeing reality? The fanboy or the non-fanboy? My eyes are open, are yours?

Dude, your eyes are open, but you are wearing glasses that are tainted with denial and fanboyism, judging from the you respond to my post. If you take systems war too seriously, you are bound to be disappointed.

Despite its early lead, the 360 is in a much worse shape than the PS3. The more you hang out in this forum, the more you will see better news for the PS3 than the 360. Repeated sad news and continuing denials aren't good for the mental health. Seriously.

The ONLY thing the PS3 has over the 360 right now is reliability, the 360 has the games, its that simple, how dare you call ME a fanboy, read over you post, than look at my responses and tell me I'm wrong.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Nagidar

DVD technology was new back then so it's a little more understandable with Sony. Microsoft has no excuses. Keep in mind Sony actually fixed the units, Microsoft just repairs them. There is no fix, the X360 you get back has the same exact defect as the X360 you sent in. Which is the reason why quite a few people have gone thru two, three, four and more. Also PS2 defect rate was far lower than the RROD. A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Really?

Some random website nobody has ever heard of. Looks like a reliable source there. Did you make that all on your own??

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

EmperorSupreme

DVD technology was new back then so it's a little more understandable with Sony. Microsoft has no excuses. Keep in mind Sony actually fixed the units, Microsoft just repairs them. There is no fix, the X360 you get back has the same exact defect as the X360 you sent in. Which is the reason why quite a few people have gone thru two, three, four and more. Also PS2 defect rate was far lower than the RROD. A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Really?

Some random website nobody has ever heard of. Looks like a reliable source there. Did you make that all on your own??

If you have better, please post.

[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Uh, do some research before opening your mouth, it WAS worse the RRoD, it took a lawsuit before SONY would do anything.

EmperorSupreme

yes it was, it took them a entire year (if not more) to finaly admit the ps2's were faulty. my friend went through ALOT of trouble with sony's customer service.

Exactly, I had 2 DRE's on my PS2's, I haven't had any trouble with my current PS2, thank god.

Err..same with RROD, cept the Lawsuit part, Microsoft also denied RROD. The interwebs caught fire about RROD. The difference is PS2s had shoddy manufacturing, the 360 has a shoddy design. Also, RROD turned up earlier while DRE took quite a while to turn up which explains the disparity in response times to both crisis.

DVD technology was new back then so it's a little more understandable with Sony. Microsoft has no excuses. Keep in mind Sony actually fixed the units, Microsoft just repairs them. There is no fix, the X360 you get back has the same exact defect as the X360 you sent in. Which is the reason why quite a few people have gone thru two, three, four and more. Also PS2 defect rate was far lower than the RROD. A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Excuse me but DVDs came out years before the PS2 launched. Maybe you should do some research before you spout garbage.

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Nagidar

You know what, I think it's a interesting analogy. I feel that way about 360 fans who refuse to see the reality that's infront of them.

Who is the one not seeing reality? The fanboy or the non-fanboy? My eyes are open, are yours?

hey nogginki, how is your blue-ray date going, i bet your reality is very good for you. i have a question you, when blue-ray becomes outdated, will your girlfriend dum you, or will you get the next thing. oh and you must not be a social guy if you rely on a blue ray player to get girls.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

A lot of lemmings are like women in bad relationships, he beats me up, he takes my money, but I still love him.

Pokeratxbox

You know what, I think it's a interesting analogy. I feel that way about 360 fans who refuse to see the reality that's infront of them.

Who is the one not seeing reality? The fanboy or the non-fanboy? My eyes are open, are yours?

hey nogginki, how is your blue-ray date going, i bet your reality is very good for you. i have a question you, when blue-ray becomes outdated, will your girlfriend dum you, or will you get the next thing. oh and you must not be a social guy if you rely on a blue ray player to get girls.

Err...what? :question:

So Elite would be...

oh my gosh!! dont quote the first post here! :x

any way... i think they both have their high points (and their low points)

they are just too even...

its one of those things where its impossable to decide which is better...