The Conduit Nintendo Wii Video - Developer Feature

When for ten extra dollars you can just get another AAA shooter for the Xbox? Bread_or_Decide

Two questions: will it have online multiplayer, and will it support the Wii Zapper? The answers to these questions will probably determine whether I buy it or not... king_bobo

I'd rather hype the upcoming Red Steel 2.InfinityMugen

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]I'd rather hype the upcoming Red Steel 2.Rahnyc4

Just for the Lulz, random pic of Gears 2

Not the highest quality video I've ever seen, but it's definitely looking good. I don't care what anyone says about the graphics, they're shaping up quite nicely.

And please stop with the ignorant HL2 comparisons. NONE OF YOU saying HL2 looks better remember what it really looks like. We're not talking the high-res Xbox360 version. Here are some screenshots of HL2 on the Xbox, the only semi-valid comparison.

Yeah, HL2 looks so much better. :roll: Fanboys.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]When for ten extra dollars you can just get another AAA shooter for the Xbox? loco145

Thread needs moar Conduit pics

The engine is good, but the art direction makes the game look ugly.Haziqonfire

How is the engine ... good ? It is one of the most ugly things i have seen in my life actually

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The engine is good, but the art direction makes the game look ugly.obamanian

How is the engine ... good ? It is one of the most ugly things i have seen in my life actually

Oh yeah? Cool story, dude.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]The engine is good, but the art direction makes the game look ugly.obamanian

How is the engine ... good ? It is one of the most ugly things i have seen in my life actually

Not the highest quality video I've ever seen, but it's definitely looking good. I don't care what anyone says about the graphics, they're shaping up quite nicely.

And please stop with the ignorant HL2 comparisons. NONE OF YOU saying HL2 looks better remember what it really looks like. We're not talking the high-res Xbox360 version. Here are some screenshots of HL2 on the Xbox, the only semi-valid comparison.

Yeah, HL2 looks so much better. :roll: Fanboys.

mdisen2

Sorry, but did i just fall in a time warp ? I though we were still in 2009 and a next generation of systems that are supposed to look at least better than the ones years back

Right ? If so, how do you compare to the xbox version ? And especially considering HL was a crappy port to xbox, while Conuit is made ground up for Wii

And BTW HL on xbox does look better

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I don't see any significant difference between HL2 xbox and The Conduit. They're about on par.Dingerious

The lighting and texturing seem far better in HL

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Not the highest quality video I've ever seen, but it's definitely looking good. I don't care what anyone says about the graphics, they're shaping up quite nicely.

And please stop with the ignorant HL2 comparisons. NONE OF YOU saying HL2 looks better remember what it really looks like. We're not talking the high-res Xbox360 version. Here are some screenshots of HL2 on the Xbox, the only semi-valid comparison.

Yeah, HL2 looks so much better. :roll: Fanboys.

mdisen2

No, the Xbox version doesn't look better. You're just a blind fanboy, or incapable of distinguishing between techinicality and art. And why should we compare HL2 on the Xbox360 to a Wii game?

AHHAHAHAHAHAHA!thespywholied

Well, that's not the Xbox version, so I don't know what you're trying to show.

[QUOTE="fbigent34"]I am so tired of people hating a this game. No one giving a chance.. ok some but everyone keeps basing it. Also if you never see the video from the start how do you know there no better? Rahnyc4

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]When for ten extra dollars you can just get another AAA shooter for the Xbox? Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]When for ten extra dollars you can just get another AAA shooter for the Xbox? Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="loco145"]Because dual-analog suck.loco145

Point still stands.Those games scored high without KB/M or Wiimote support.

I swear some people act as if its impossible to play shooters with the DS3.Yes KB/M is king but really the Dual-shock and 360 controller ain't too shabby either.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yeah it sucks so much that COD4, Bioshock, Halo 3, and Resistance 2 clearly all suffered for it. 9.0,9.5,9.5,9.0. Clearly. stvee101

Point still stands.Those games scored high without KB/M or Wiimote support.

I swear some people act as if its impossible to play shooters with the DS3.Yes KB/M is king but really the Dual-shock and 360 controller ain't too shabby either.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="loco145"]Because dual-analog suck.VideoGameGuy

By your logic, if "they do suffer from it," then DC, N64, PS1, PS2, Xbox, GC, XBox 360, PS3 all should have implemented a PC-like KB & M or Wii mote setup a long time ago. As for the Wiimote, there is absolutely NOTHING a pair of Dual Analogs cannot do, that a Wiimote can. Same can be said about KB & M. The only difference is both inputs just make it EASIER/practical to play in FPS/RTS. As for other genres, the standard DA has proven to be superior in every way.

If the Wiimote has been proven to be superior, then Wii Maddens, more NBA, NHL games, Sim Racing and adventure games would have showed up on Wii hardware and obliterated software sales by a 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 miles. :lol:

Frankly, I prefer Dual Analog. If I wanted pure precision, then yes, KB & M is the way to go. But I'm no PC gamer, and never will be, as long as I don't have the patience for it.

As for the Wiimote, there is absolutely NOTHING a pair of Dual Analogs cannot do, that a Wiimote can. Same can be said about KB & M. The only difference is both inputs just make it EASIER/practical to play in FPS. As for other genres, the standard DA has proven to be superior in every way.KingsofQueens

False, Games like Defend Your Castle, Traumacenter, World of Goo, etc would have been nearly to impossible to play with dual analog. Even the developers of those games agree.

If the Wiimote has been proven to be superior, then Wii Maddens, more NBA, NHL games, Sim Racing and adventure games would have showed up on Wii hardware and obliterated software sales by a 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 miles. :lol:KingsofQueens

The wii is the fastest selling console in history, I wonder why...

Frankly, I prefer Dual Analog. If I wanted pure precision, then yes, KB & M is the way to go. But I'm no PC gamer, and never will be, as long as I don't have the patience for it.

KingsofQueens

ANd yes, if Ps3/360 had a Wii like controller, I would be really hypped for KZ2, Halo 3, etc... And probably get those instead of the COnduit(or along if the COnduit is really good).

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]That would have been awesome!!! Im looking forward to it for the next gen!!!

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

False, Games like Defend Your Castle, Traumacenter, World of Goo, etc would have been nearly to impossible to play with dual analog. Even the developers of those games agree. Maybe for those unique genres, but again, the Wiimote hasn't proven to be superior in ALL GENRES. I REPEAT: ALL GENRES. I REPEAT: ALL GENRES. I REPEAT: ALL GENRES. Where's your Realistic Sim Racer? NBA? NHL? More FPS and RTS for the Wii? Why hasn't Madden Wii obliterated in sales or even featured on ESPN: Madden Nation????? Thank you.

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]If the Wiimote has been proven to be superior, then Wii Maddens, more NBA, NHL games, Sim Racing and adventure games would have showed up on Wii hardware and obliterated software sales by a 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 miles. :lol:loco145

The wii is the fastest selling console in history, I wonder why..And??? Nothing to add but sales? It's clearly selling because a large majority of its demographic who could care less about MP3 or SSBB or those type of genres I mentioned, are buying it. The same people who are scared of "10,000" face buttons on a controller.

Frankly, I prefer Dual Analog. If I wanted pure precision, then yes, KB & M is the way to go. But I'm no PC gamer, and never will be, as long as I don't have the patience for it.

KingsofQueens

ANd yes, if Ps3/360 had a Wii like controller, I would be really hypped for KZ2, Halo 3, etc... And probably get those instead of the COnduit(or along if the COnduit is really good). Again, it's just a matter of preference.

StuffKingsofQueens

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]Stuffloco145

I would agree with the Wiimote being more precise for aiming, b/c it's essentially a pointer at that time (like a light gun game, or mouse). I don't agree all the way with movement considering the Wiimote is the only control type where the player has to keep track of an real world bounding box to stay on screen. Nether the mouse and KB nor dual analog have this issue, you'll never "fall off" with these control types.

KingsofQueens sounds angry :lol:

Frankly, I prefer Dual Analog. If I wanted pure precision, then yes, KB & M is the way to go. But I'm no PC gamer, and never will be, as long as I don't have the patience for it.KingsofQueens

I'm sure some dilusional gamer said the exact same thing back when the analog stick came out. "A stick? hahahah i need no stupid looking stick, D-Pad fo life!!!111!!"

I don't agree all the way with movement considering the Wiimote is the only control type where the player has to keep track of an real world bounding box to stay on screen. Nether the mouse and KB nor dual analog have this issue, you'll never "fall off" with these control types.

-RPGamer-

The so called bounding box is only a problem if the developer choses it to be. Want more precision? Make a smaller bounding box and voilá. Look at the Conduitand read the hand-on that game had.

No matter how hard people try to spin it, dual analog will always be an extremely gimped way of playing shooters. Devs had three gens to emulate the PC experience and some people grew up with this "sloppy" input method.

I would agree with the Wiimote being more precise for aiming, b/c it's essentially a pointer at that time (like a light gun game, or mouse). I don't agree all the way with movement considering the Wiimote is the only control type where the player has to keep track of an real world bounding box to stay on screen. Nether the mouse and KB nor dual analog have this issue, you'll never "fall off" with these control types.

-RPGamer-

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I would agree with the Wiimote being more precise for aiming, b/c it's essentially a pointer at that time (like a light gun game, or mouse). I don't agree all the way with movement considering the Wiimote is the only control type where the player has to keep track of an real world bounding box to stay on screen. Nether the mouse and KB nor dual analog have this issue, you'll never "fall off" with these control types.

loco145

Let's be real and just say that in a fast paced FPS where you're doing a ton of turning that it would be far easier to have a lose of detect with the sensor bar than it would be for someone to send there mouse flying off their desk...

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

I would agree with the Wiimote being more precise for aiming, b/c it's essentially a pointer at that time (like a light gun game, or mouse). I don't agree all the way with movement considering the Wiimote is the only control type where the player has to keep track of an real world bounding box to stay on screen. Nether the mouse and KB nor dual analog have this issue, you'll never "fall off" with these control types.

-RPGamer-

Let's be real and just say that in a fast paced FPS where you're doing a ton of turning that it would be far easier to have a lose of detect with the sensor bar than it would be for someone to send there mouse flying off their desk...

Let's be real and just say that in a fast paced FPS where you're doing a ton of turning that it would be far easier to have a lose of detect with the sensor bar than it would be for someone to send there mouse flying off their desk...

-RPGamer-

The Wiimote is only 2 years old, devs are stil ironing out stuff as they learn more about it. Dual analog input had 3 gens of research and tons of games to improve apon yet the IR pointing outshined it in its first year.

Theres no point in arguing this, analog sticks will never translate the accuracy of the human hand properly, specialy compared to a mouse or a pointing device.

KingsofQueens sounds angry :lol:

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]Frankly, I prefer Dual Analog. If I wanted pure precision, then yes, KB & M is the way to go. But I'm no PC gamer, and never will be, as long as I don't have the patience for it.Grinning_Demon

I'm sure some dilusional gamer said the exact same thing back when the analog stick came out. "A stick? hahahah i need no stupid looking stick, D-Pad fo life!!!111!!"

Grinning Demon so defensive............for not agreeing with Sheep :lol:

If you remove your 6 feet thick sheep glasses, you'll realize people (and I'm not alone here) have different tastes.

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]Stuffloco145

Uhh, I never asked for hardware sales, I was referring to the Wii not having enough typical software (Madden, NBA, NHL, Sim racers, etc) to prove the Wiimote as a standard input and having the sales of those typical software to back it up.

Halo 3 is not on the Wii (go blame Nintendo) simply because it's hardware is severely limited in power. You sheep can spin and sputter on how the Wiimote is a godsend, the fact remains, the vast majority of 360, PS3 owners don't give two hoots about it. You keep saying Wiimote is way more precise, but again, the fact remains, a vast majority of gamers haven't fully 125% accepted the Wiimote as a standard.

And yes its a matter of preference. How the hell can you possibly know what my preference are or how I choose?

Grinning Demon so defensive............for not agreeing with Sheep :lol:

If you remove your 6 feet thick sheep glasses, you'll realize people (and I'm not alone here) have different tastes.

KingsofQueens

[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"]

KingsofQueens sounds angry :lol:

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]Frankly, I prefer Dual Analog. If I wanted pure precision, then yes, KB & M is the way to go. But I'm no PC gamer, and never will be, as long as I don't have the patience for it.KingsofQueens

I'm sure some dilusional gamer said the exact same thing back when the analog stick came out. "A stick? hahahah i need no stupid looking stick, D-Pad fo life!!!111!!"

Grinning Demon so defensive............for not agreeing with Sheep :lol:

If you remove your 6 feet thick sheep glasses, you'll realize people (and I'm not alone here) have different tastes.

You might've learned to like it, but its still flawed.

1. The only thing I've been arguing about is the Wiimote hasn't proven itself to be the standard in all genres.
2. Yes it's accurate (as well as KBM), but on certain genres, they work well.
3. DA is my prefered choice, simply because I like it and feel comfortable with it??
4. I was countering the fact that most of the AAA-AA games that have been on PS3 and Xbox 360 have used the DA very well. And hasn't given me (and others) a severe problem.

[QUOTE="KingsofQueens"]

Grinning Demon so defensive............for not agreeing with Sheep :lol:

If you remove your 6 feet thick sheep glasses, you'll realize people (and I'm not alone here) have different tastes.

loco145

I prefer the dual analog, by miles, unless a less akward than Wii mote system arrives, i will always prefer dual analog by miles

In fact it takes double time to aim with the Wii mote than the analog controls, since the cursor slips hugly, it is a joke TBH