The Crysis 2 stage demo was not on 360

I have seen so many threads about how "the 360 version of Crysis 2 looked so good as they demoed it on stage" and "that Crysis 2 on the 360 stage demo clearly shows that the 360 is capable of running Uncharted 2", etc...

I am not saying that the 360 isn't capable of displaying Uncharted 2 graphics, but that the stage demo of Crysis 2 was not on the 360. It was being played on the PC using the joypad as an input device. In this VIDEO, you can see a few times (at 2:00, 2:27, and the best view at 3:07) that the 10 guys playing have their mouse and keyboard in front of them (used to start the game up).

Crysis 2 may be the best looking 360 game when it comes out, it my be better looking than Uncharted 2, and the 360 version of Rage might even be better looking than both... but what I'm getting at is... who cares... As time goes on, games look better. Of course some game with a huge budget that comes out 1-2 years later is going to look good and possibly even better than and older one... I know this thread will not end the graphics debates here in SW.. so I'll end it with... PC always wins in graphics...

Rage will look better anyways

But yeah it was the PC version. You can tell by how he's aiming

Remember METRO, Alan Wake, and Unreal?

This isn't the first time people confuse PC graphics with console graphics....;)

It's always funny when the two games actually release, then there is a lot of backpeddling. :P

I've said this for YEARS at SW, but the message isn't clear...when talking about uber graphics, WAIT FOR THE UBER-GRAFIX GAME(S) TO ACTUALLY RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.

Claiming best console graphics for console games, or even best graphics for PC games, or whatever...this requires patience as we NEED the game to come out to know the real deal.

Rage will look better anyways

But yeah it was the PC version. You can tell by how he's aiming

hockeyruler12

Kind of the other way around. If it were on mouse and keyboard (aka the PC) then his aiming wouldn't have sucked so much. I hate it when people demo games on consoles/gamepads because their aiming always sucks. They always "oversteer" the target then try to aim back and end up goin too far again... which is why consoles have aim assist.

Remember METRO, Alan Wake, and Unreal?

This isn't the first time people confuse PC graphics with console graphics....;)

It's always funny when the two games actually release, then there is a lot of backpeddling. :P

SolidTy

Awww... You just had to remind me of when Alan Wake was on the PC and was an open world game with amazing graphics, physics, and weather system... well thanks for that. Well, I'm off to bed. Can't wait to see how this thread developes...probably into a giant mess.

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

Rage will look better anyways

But yeah it was the PC version. You can tell by how he's aiming

arto1223

Kind of the other way around. If it were on mouse and keyboard (aka the PC) then his aiming wouldn't have sucked so much. I hate it when people demo games on consoles/gamepads because their aiming always sucks. They always "oversteer" the target then try to aim back and end up goin too far again... which is why consoles have aim assist.

They were just using the much superior control method on the PC...

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

emember METRO, Alan Wake, and Unreal?

This isn't the first time people confuse PC graphics with console graphics....

It's always funny when the two games actually release, then there is a lot of backpeddling.

I've said this for YEARS at SW, but the message isn't clear...when talking about uber graphics,WAIT FOR THE UBER-GRAFIX GAME(S) TO ACTUALLY RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.

Claiming best console graphics for console games, or even best graphics for PC games, or whatever...this requires patience as we NEED the game to come out to know the real deal.

arto1223

Awww... You just had to remind me of when Alan Wake was on the PC and was an open world game with amazing graphics, physics, and weather system... well thanks for that. Well, I'm off to bed. Can't wait to see how this thread developes...probably into a giant mess.

Sorry to remind you about that. :lol: It's funny looking at the final game released now, but those old AW screens were used to claim uber graphics ownage for a long time, it got to the point where it was considered a Graphic King before release. :lol: ;)

I even see some respected posters fall for that time and time again...and the solution is so simple.:P

Let's be honest, Developers are going to put their best foot forward when trying to sell a game. It's up to us to figure it out, and if we don't want to do that, then just wait until the game is out and solutions are found.

Recently, SE used got busted for using PS3 FFXIII SCREENS to sell the 360 port version of the game. The ads have been pulled, and there was a probe, SE lost the case.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/18/watchdog-group-dubs-xbox-360-ffxiii-ad-misleading/

http://kotaku.com/5471186/square-enix-probing-altered-ffxiii-comparison-shots-[update]

My point is companies just want to sell their game, which isn't surprising.

Anyways, Enjoy your sleep. :P

I have seen so many threads about how "the 360 version of Crysis 2 looked so good as they demoed it on stage" and "that Crysis 2 on the 360 stage demo clearly shows that the 360 is capable of running Uncharted 2", etc...

I am not saying that the 360 isn't capable of displaying Uncharted 2 graphics, but that the stage demo of Crysis 2 was not on the 360. It was being played on the PC using the joypad as an input device. In this VIDEO, you can see a few times (at 2:00, 2:27, and the best view at 3:07) that the 10 guys playing have their mouse and keyboard in front of them (used to start the game up).

Crysis 2 may be the best looking 360 game when it comes out, it my be better looking than Uncharted 2, and the 360 version of Rage might even be better looking than both... but what I'm getting at is... who cares... As time goes on, games look better. Of course some game with a huge budget that comes out 1-2 years later is going to look good and possibly even better than and older one... I know this thread will not end the graphics debates here in SW.. so I'll end it with... PC always wins in graphics...

arto1223

what, you made a thread on this too? i just made the same thread and gave you credit for it.

:)

Remember METRO, Alan Wake, and Unreal?

This isn't the first time people confuse PC graphics with console graphics....;)

It's always funny when the two games actually release, then there is a lot of backpeddling. :P

I've said this for YEARS at SW, but the message isn't clear...when talking about uber graphics, WAIT FOR THE UBER-GRAFIX GAME(S) TO ACTUALLY RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.

Claiming best console graphics for console games, or even best graphics for PC games, or whatever...this requires patience as we NEED the game to come out to know the real deal.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Remember METRO, Alan Wake, and Unreal?

This isn't the first time people confuse PC graphics with console graphics....;)

It's always funny when the two games actually release, then there is a lot of backpeddling. :P

I've said this for YEARS at SW, but the message isn't clear...when talking about uber graphics, WAIT FOR THE UBER-GRAFIX GAME(S) TO ACTUALLY RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.

Claiming best console graphics for console games, or even best graphics for PC games, or whatever...this requires patience as we NEED the game to come out to know the real deal.

FIipMode

I like the cut of your jib. ;)

Maybe this thread will help lead SW into a brighter future.:o

Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but how do you know that its not 360? Clearly the guy doing the presentation is holding a 360 controller. But i watched the video and i noticed something. Maybe the 10 guys are just using monitors to see what they are doing? I mean common sense says they need their own screen right? And i play PC games, those guys are clearly holding a controller (note the guy bottom row, far left) clearly he is holding a controller. So they could simply be using monitors.......no?

what did you guys expect the 360 fans to do? this is the first time they'd had a game that looks better then halo. :lol:

SiKh22

Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but how do you know that its not 360? Clearly the guy doing the presentation is holding a 360 controller. But i watched the video and i noticed something. Maybe the 10 guys are just using monitors to see what they are doing? I mean common sense says they need their own screen right? And i play PC games, those guys are clearly holding a controller (note the guy bottom row, far left) clearly he is holding a controller. So they could simply be using monitors.......no?

navyguy21

you heard of a input device for PC? that's what their using, watch the video, they use the mouse.

[QUOTE="SiKh22"]

what did you guys expect the 360 fans to do? this is the first time they'd had a game that looks better then halo. :lol:

khoofia_pika

I have a 360 and a PS3. 8)

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but how do you know that its not 360? Clearly the guy doing the presentation is holding a 360 controller. But i watched the video and i noticed something. Maybe the 10 guys are just using monitors to see what they are doing? I mean common sense says they need their own screen right? And i play PC games, those guys are clearly holding a controller (note the guy bottom row, far left) clearly he is holding a controller. So they could simply be using monitors.......no?

SiKh22

you heard of a input device for PC? that's what their using, watch the video, they use the mouse.

Dude, i watched the video, and i have a gaming PC. the camera was turning way too slow to be played with a mouse. What im saying is all players were using a controller which any PC gamer can tell by the video (your hands are not that close together when you have one hand on mouse, one on keyboard) So they are using controllers. So my point is how do we know that it is PC when they are using controllers and monitors?

Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but how do you know that its not 360? Clearly the guy doing the presentation is holding a 360 controller. But i watched the video and i noticed something. Maybe the 10 guys are just using monitors to see what they are doing? I mean common sense says they need their own screen right? And i play PC games, those guys are clearly holding a controller (note the guy bottom row, far left) clearly he is holding a controller. So they could simply be using monitors.......no?

navyguy21

watch the original video at 3:07. did you not read the OP?

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Remember METRO, Alan Wake, and Unreal?

This isn't the first time people confuse PC graphics with console graphics....;)

It's always funny when the two games actually release, then there is a lot of backpeddling. :P

I've said this for YEARS at SW, but the message isn't clear...when talking about uber graphics, WAIT FOR THE UBER-GRAFIX GAME(S) TO ACTUALLY RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC.

Claiming best console graphics for console games, or even best graphics for PC games, or whatever...this requires patience as we NEED the game to come out to know the real deal.

SolidTy

I like the cut of your jib. ;)

Maybe this thread will help lead SW into a brighter future.:o

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but how do you know that its not 360? Clearly the guy doing the presentation is holding a 360 controller. But i watched the video and i noticed something. Maybe the 10 guys are just using monitors to see what they are doing? I mean common sense says they need their own screen right? And i play PC games, those guys are clearly holding a controller (note the guy bottom row, far left) clearly he is holding a controller. So they could simply be using monitors.......no?

dethroned3

watch the original video at 3:07. did you not read the OP?

Ok, i see it now.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] What this guy said.FIipMode

I like the cut of your jib. ;)

Maybe this thread will help lead SW into a brighter future.:o

Yeah, I know...I've been here to long to really think that. :(

But I can pray for a brighter future...:cry:

:P

Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but how do you know that its not 360? Clearly the guy doing the presentation is holding a 360 controller. But i watched the video and i noticed something. Maybe the 10 guys are just using monitors to see what they are doing? I mean common sense says they need their own screen right? And i play PC games, those guys are clearly holding a controller (note the guy bottom row, far left) clearly he is holding a controller. So they could simply be using monitors.......no?

navyguy21

Ok so I couldn't sleep... going to play some more BC2 but thought I would check here before that.

If you watch the video more... like around 3:07... you will see that they are indeed playing with Joypads (the on-screen prompts also give that away, ie the bigb yellow Y or the big blue X).

But what is also seen are the mice and keyboards... Why would those be there if they were playing the game from 360s.

If you have a PC and are a true PC gamer, then you should know that PCs can be played with any type of controler... even the Wii through mods (search youtube for evidence, plenty of Crysis with Wiimote videos). Also, just because it is a monitor or tv doesn't determine whether it is console or PC.

Watch the video again, and who knows? That might possibly in fact be the 360 version and the game may look that good... but we don't know for sure yet, so who cares?

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

Shirokishi_

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

Shirokishi_

they're playing with an officially supported gamepad. if it doesn't show 'hold y' then what's it suppose to show? it's either the keys on the keyboard or the controller.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

FIipMode

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

Shirokishi_

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

the evidence is clear, they've got a series of pc's lined up with mouse's and keyboards. you can't come to another conclusion besides, those are pc's.

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

Shirokishi_

Except Crysis 1 also does that when you plug in a 360 controller.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

Shirokishi_

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] That can easily be the 360 controller plugged into the PC, this happened a while back with Brink. People thought the PC version was the console versions due to the 360 button prompts on screen.FIipMode

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

So? They can simply be playing at 360 settings or playing a 360 build.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

"HOLD Y" was shown next to the map.

Sounds like the 360 version to me....

Filthybastrd

Except Crysis 1 also does that when you plug in a 360 controller.

Oh ok. That makes sense then.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

waltefmoney

So? They can simply be playing at 360 settings or playing a 360 build.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I like the cut of your jib. ;)

Maybe this thread will help lead SW into a brighter future.:o

SolidTy

Yeah, I know...I've been here to long to really think that. :(

But I can pray for a brighter future...:cry:

:P

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] That can easily be the 360 controller plugged into the PC, this happened a while back with Brink. People thought the PC version was the console versions due to the 360 button prompts on screen.dethroned3

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

the evidence is clear, they've got a series of pc's lined up with mouse's and keyboards. you can't come to another conclusion besides, those are pc's.

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"] That can easily be the 360 controller plugged into the PC, this happened a while back with Brink. People thought the PC version was the console versions due to the 360 button prompts on screen.FIipMode

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

delta3074

the evidence is clear, they've got a series of pc's lined up with mouse's and keyboards. you can't come to another conclusion besides, those are pc's.

But those are clearly computers, are they not?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="dethroned3"]

the evidence is clear, they've got a series of pc's lined up with mouse's and keyboards. you can't come to another conclusion besides, those are pc's.

crimsonsabre

But those are clearly computers, are they not?

[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

So it happended once before?

Its still possible this is the 360 version then.

delta3074

the evidence is clear, they've got a series of pc's lined up with mouse's and keyboards. you can't come to another conclusion besides, those are pc's.

you cannot deny the fact that they are playing on pcs. that is clearly evident if you watched the video.

now, whether they may be playing on a dev kit or not, is not my problem. you can speculate, i can speculate, but history shows that developers would use 'the best' to promote their game. they could be playing on a dev kit with enchanced settings.

the wise thing to do is wait till it's released.

Maybe it was the 360 code running on a dev kit.

so why would they trick people to believe it's 360? Maybe it just IS! we all know Crytek are geniuses with graphics....perhaps it really looks that good 4 consoles? soapandbubbles

so why would they trick people to believe it's 360? Maybe it just IS! we all know Crytek are geniuses with graphics....perhaps it really looks that good 4 consoles? soapandbubbles

PC or not, the graphics aren't showing much at all that should wow anyone here. Like another posters said, it really looks sorta like cod graphic wise with a little bit of rb6v2 kind of graphic style. Not impressed at all. The guns sound cool though :)

PC or not, the graphics aren't showing much at all that should wow anyone here. Like another posters said, it really looks sorta like cod graphic wise with a little bit of rb6v2 kind of graphic style. Not impressed at all. The guns sound cool though :)

GreyFoXX4

I agree that the Rooftops level looked a lot like MW2 (in terms of art design), but Impact really shines, and it looks amazing to boot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqCSIyrLfO4&feature=player_embedded

Above is PC footage, though.