The Decline of Video Games

This gen's games would be fine if developers and publishers would just stop trying to intentionally ruin them.

I would like if there were more full-fledged, high quality games, and a greater diversity of them. It's not really enough to me that indie games make up for the lack of many genres in the high end space. I'd like if you could count on them not generally being buggy, based around singular gameplay gimmicks, or only 2-4 hours long.

I totally agree. I can only speak for the ps4, but I've never had such a technically decent console with nothing I want to play. The only games I've really like were ports from ps3, but I absolutely love the ability to instantly hop to the home screen and then back into the game. Now I just need a game to do it with. I am basically done with video games until something worth playing comes along. Maybe Star Citizen...when its a full game in 10 years.

Yeah, same here. Dont have any problems paying for such games either. I was just providing commentary to the mentality of this: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/no-mans-sky-will-apparently-cost-you-60-32996187/#16

Same thing happened with the Witness. I know what AA games generally are. Both of these can be considered 'AA games'.

I wasn't targeting you exactly, even though I completely disagree with you on this topic. I just I never really felt a lack of mid-tier A/AA games because they didnt really go away on the PC. I personally think the Indie game digital space is just a better format to what you're looking for. I dont really care about the internal production values, but plenty of them have the audiovisual quality that feel like a million bucks

Yeah, they lacked the budget during first SW, so the levels in the game ended up being straight forward. This time however, they are taking them to the next level.

Shovel Knight, Minecraft, Helldivers, Broforce, Axiom Verge, Spelunky, etc

Just this generation already beat Rogue Legacy, Dust and Elysian Tail, Steamworld Dig, Apotheon, Gauntlet, Magicka 2, Limbo, Guacamelee, Outlast, Valiant Hears, The Unfinished Swan, Velocity 2X and Unmechanical Extended.

Not every of them are indie, but none is AAA and all came with Plus. All great games!

New gen systems only been out a year..

@brah4ever: "Sony's audience this time pretty much the bro gamer from the 360."

Not really. Sony is making money across the board. Even Knack sold 3 million when Sony had a small user base. Playstation gamers are more open minded.

Lemmings only care about Halo and Gears thats why most X1 games are on PC

"What are some of the diverse Sony made games of this gen that have released so far?"

Until Dawn (the only Slash Horror game this gen)

Tearaway Unfolded

Infamous Second Son

Killzone Shadowfall

Little Big Planet franchise

Bloodborne (the Souls trend started by Sony)

Gravity Rush

MLB franchise

Drive Club

Knack

Hardware Rivals

Helldivers

Everybody's Gone to the Rapture

Nintendo hasnt has a matuture titke since Metroid. Sony first party studios are more diverse wich is why people see playstation as a variety platform. You are futher proving my point

Yup, this gen just like last gen is total garbage.

A few good games sure but they're buried under a sea of trash.

@Blazed: @Blazed: all I see is Indie garbage and flops

This gen sucks bro

@brah4ever: I do think something has to give , games have gotten progressively more expensive to make and are taking longer to develop meaning we are not getting the volume of games to fully justify the consoles like we did in the past 8,16,bit, PS1/2 era.

Exclusive games are still made but they take so long to develop and cost so much money they seem to be a dying breed and we're left with state of the art consoles that are playing low budget indie titles which are more like tablet/phone games.

I love my consoles but with technology continuously improving i can only see games becoming ever more expensive again and only the biggest software houses being able to afford to make them and they'll be for all of the available consoles rather than bespoke exclusives and even then it will only be proven franchises.

Unless some kind of universal software development package(s) are developed to vastly simplify and cheapen the cost of making games it simply cant go on the way it is, its just not sustainable.

Think along the line of how websites are developed now, back in the day it was all coded by hand in html but now we have numerous packages that have vastly simplified the process and in turn websites have become massively improved from where they were.

This what game development needs, there will be one lowly programmer sat at the back checking things over whilst the devs are all using the new simpler tools to achieve what took many coders before.

Unless this happens i can see a bleak future for console gaming atleast.

@beardmad:

Pretty much yeah

Amazing

Killing Floor 2, Vermintide, The Age of Decadence, Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin, Cities Skylines, Broken Age, Banished, Rocket League, The Talos Principle, Shadow Warrior, quite a few man.

It's not so much the AA game died, as much as it's on PC, and the model has changed. The Early access scene while filled with frauds, also contains games that will come out and be more robust games that while lacking triple A production/polish, will make up for it in wealth and depth of content. This stretch from lets say 2012 to about now has been one of the more mediocre stretches in gaming, as if I'm being honest the amount of actual "great" video games can be counted on maybe 1 hand, and probably 2 or 3 fingers (Bayonetta 2, Rocket League, and Hotline Miami), but I would argue it is a bridge as we begin watching these indie devs make some money, and evolve as studios.

Shit Bastion to Transistor already shows how quickly that studio is able to make even better produced (technical stuff at least, not the biggest fan of either game) products.

Certain genres have died, as the arcadey sports game is a lost cause, you either simulate the real deal or you don't, and **** Madden is a disgrace to the NFL, and I would really like SSX and Tony Hawk like games, that weren't garbage, but it is what it is in that department.

In between we also got some more creative stuff, that gamers overreact to with hostility of "not enough gameplay", when the experience is actually well done: ala Journey, That Dragon, Cancer, or more recently Firewatch (shitty ending though).

Japan being a shell of its former glory and this gen being the least progressive generation of gaming (mechanically at least) so far? No disagreement, I would agree 100%. But I think the PC is a sign of things are getting better, and I would argue the PS4 presents an argument that it is getting better on the console front as well. The thing is these days, the consoles, without Japan especially became dumbed down PCs, which they more or less always would have been if not for Japan.

@FLOPPAGE_50:

Plenty of quality games.

1. Shadow of Mordor

2. Bloodborne

3. Alien Isolation

4. Witcher 3

5. Guilty Gear Xrd SIGN

6. Mortal Kombat XL

7. Dying Light

8. Astebreed

9. Sunset Overdrive

10. Gravity Rush

11. Ori and the Blind Forest

12. Rise of the Tomb Raider

13. Never Alone

14. Until Dawn

15. Bayonette 2

16. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

17. Forza Horizon 2

18. Life is Strange

19. Undernight Inbirth

20. Trials Fusion

21. Resogun

22. Street Fighter V

23. Fatal Frame 5

24. Bastion

25. Trine 3

26. Fallout 4

27. Nitro Plus Blasters

28. Unravel

etc, etc

Video games are fine It's that poole like you and TC dwell on the negative. Go play games and stop complaining.

That's your answer?

what a horrible line up.

you clearly missed gaming in the late 90s, 08-10

Petulant gamers, that is all the lot of you are. Reading this topic and many others like this just goes to show what gamers have evolved to. You stand there posting about how games were so great, reminiscing about the "good times". Yet, you won't admit the problem, YOU! Yes, you! You know who you are. The gamers who got us here in this "horrible state". The state of which games have micro transaction, dlcs, cut content, no story mode. It's gamers that created this situation.

Do you think these current practices just randomly spawned from the abyss? No, it was consumers who enabled this. DLC? You mean how games were ok with it because it was another expansion pack? When you bought the next DLC for the same price despite it having less content? The consumer who paid for different colored skin? The guy who said who needs a story mode, this is a online game? The gal who said pvp is stupid, we don't need it. The parents who let kids pay for these stuff despite not knowing what it does. The adults who said, I have money, i don't care. The morons who said its okay for always online because we all have Internet. The dumb friend who told you to trust a company. YOU are all the cause of this "horrible" state of gaming.

I wish I can throw you all back in time. When most games were single player only. When dial up meant you can choose to play games or have a working phone. When graphics were bad. When only a small portion of people played it. When no social media played a part in gaming. You'd all comeback with a new sense of self.

I for one think games are still good. Are there bad or rotten games out there? Of course, but there are great games as well. Games i will remember 10 years from now; games like Witcher 3. I like gaming now, it's more social. I can play with my brother in law and my sister who live hundreds of miles away from me. I can connect with people from all over the world. When I see something I don't like, I encourage others not to support it? They cut content from the main game? I don't buy it. They want it to be always online? I don't buy it. Do I always do this? No, something I support them regardless but very rarely

Really, you all sound like those people who complain about the current state of their country/district..etc. "it's falling apart" then when you ask them how many times they have voted in the past elections and not surprisingly it's mostly never. Be a voice, you can vote with your money. Make a change!

This the same lame ass shit we heard at the beginning of LAST GEN. Stfu already jeeze.

@FLOPPAGE_50: "That's your answer?

what a horrible line up.

you clearly missed gaming in the late 90s, 08-10".

Lol Those are quality titles even by old gen standards. Forza Horizon 2 - Perfected open world racing games. Dying Light - The best open world zombie game to date. Bloodborne - A throw back to classic gameplay. MKX - The best Mortal Kombat to date. The list is far from horrible you should quit gaming.

no it's pretty horrible

you should quit gaming if you think that list triumphs anything last gen

This gen sucks so bad. The last game I bought was Dying Light.

You know it's rough when you login to Gamespot for the first time in months hoping to check out some cool games that have been released and maybe a good game review or two...only to find that the only freaking reviews Gamespot has that are new are of ****ing Arcade titles (which were NEVER posted in top 10 console lists)...and there are no new IPs announced.

I won't be hoodwinked into buying another $500+ useless piece of hardware that I just look at.

This thread is so old it's not even from this gen.

Yup, title still applies.

Revival4thewin

Don't bump old threads