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#1 Tech_Guy_2
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A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

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#2 XenoNinja
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:lol:

so true.

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#3 Smuggiebear
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sadly, this is somewhat true.

Games really should include a test level to play. Put some things that are more intense. It would really be nice. I dont pc game anymore, but this is truly what I use to do. Now when I game on the pc, I dont realy care. I run games on whatever the auto settings are. Im a medium warrior for most games I want to play

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#4 Killfox
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A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Tech_Guy_2

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

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#5 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Killfox

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

So a game without mods has 0 replayability ?
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#6 TeamR
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My buddy bought DMC 4 for ps3 the other day and had to wait for a 20 minute install. In addition to the 20 minutes it took to download + install a firmware update

My other buddy had his 360 for 4 weeks before it RROD'd and died on him

I'll keep playing with my settings, thanks ;)

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#7 NathanDrake
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That's why they have an auto-detect button in the options menu under video !!???!???
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#8 darklord888
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A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Tech_Guy_2


A 360 owner buys a game, loads it up, RROD, 4 weeks later starts playing.

A Wii owner hasn't bought anything since SMG.

A PS3 can't buy anymore because their HDD is full from 5GB installations.

See I can make crap up too?
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#9 Meu2k7
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? No? since I bought my 8800 over a year and 4 months ago, ive jsut pu the disk in, installed, played ... Auto Detects Max settings. with the exception of Crysis...

1 out of ... 15-20 games ...

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#10 bignice12
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Fail, nice try TC.
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#11 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

So a game without mods has 0 replayability ?

Yet again I have to deal with the complete ignorant people ASSuming things again. I in no way siad that. What I am saying is that sure you can play it more than once but once your done playing through it becomes a little boring. So what do I do. I download mods like the faiakes mod for STALKER which completely changes the game. Thus I am enjoying my game a lot more than you.

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#12 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Killfox

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

I am a PC gamer actually so dont think you can lie to me.Optimal settings that a game gives you is a complete joke.I cannot max out HL2 through optimal settings whereas i can actually max it easily.

I just bought need for speed prostreet.When i loaded the game guess what was giving low settings in 640x480.The game needless to say looks terrible but runs a charm but when i put all settings to max it doesnt run very well.So WTF am i supposed to do.The game had no optimal settings.It just gives you the lowest possible settings and then well what do we do then?:roll:

Sorry man but PC gaming is just sad until this horrible flaw is fixed.

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#13 Lazy_Boy88
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Yeah that is kinda true. But it's better than having the game looks like ass and run at low framerates and not be able to do anything about is.
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#14 jack_russel
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I've noticed that there are a lot more neo-hermits now. The old hermits wouldn't have even bothered to respond to this.
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#15 Always-Honest
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ha, yep. but when they get to play the game maxed out on a hd projector, they are happy campers.
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#16 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Tech_Guy_2

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

I am a PC gamer actually so dont think you can lie to me.Optimal settings that a game gives you is a complete joke.I cannot max out HL2 through optimal settings whereas i can actually max it easily.

I just bought need for speed prostreet.When i loaded the game guess what was giving low settings in 640x480.The game needless to say looks terrible but runs a charm but when i put all settings to max it doesnt run very well.So WTF am i supposed to do.The game had no optimal settings.It just gives you the lowest possible settings and then well what do we do then?:roll:

Sorry man but PC gaming is just sad until this horrible flaw is fixed.

You over exaggerating the problem beyond belief. Like I just bought bioshock alittle while ago. It took my like a minute to figure out what settings I wanted and I was done and reasy to play. Also we install games to have faster load times just like the PS3 is starting to do. Stop complaining about installing. It takes me like 5 minutes to install a game.

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#17 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Killfox

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

So a game without mods has 0 replayability ?

Yet again I have to deal with the complete ignorant people ASSuming things again. I in no way siad that. What I am saying is that sure you can play it more than once but once your done playing through it becomes a little boring. So what do I do. I download mods like the faiakes mod for STALKER which completely changes the game. Thus I am enjoying my game a lot more than you.

Umm yeah you did :|

And why are you acting like console games dont have different difficulty setting and whanot halo 3 is a perfect example of how you can trun off and on skulls to change up your experience in SP. Bungie created forge (a type of mod program) so people can make whatever they want in MP and share it with there friends. :roll:

So Idk what your talking about

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#18 SegArgyle
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I think the whole rrod thing is big facricated lie, I have 11 buddies who all own a 360 and myself and never experienced this not once and everyone has had theirs since launch, plus I know a bunch of people on live who never had this problem

hmmmm

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#19 Tech_Guy_2
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? No? since I bought my 8800 over a year and 4 months ago, ive jsut pu the disk in, installed, played ... Auto Detects Max settings. with the exception of Crysis...

1 out of ... 15-20 games ...

Meu2k7

Who are you trying to kid.I also have an 8800 and even HL2 and COD4 donot give me max settings even though i can max them real easy.And the optimal settings dont know anything about the levels of filtering that you are going to apply.

And secondly you are basically telling me that when my 8800 becomes old i will have to upgrade otherwise i will have to play with the settings in every game.Sorry but that is just FAIL.

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#20 Tech_Guy_2
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sadly, this is somewhat true.

Games really should include a test level to play. Put some things that are more intense. It would really be nice. I dont pc game anymore, but this is truly what I use to do. Now when I game on the pc, I dont realy care. I run games on whatever the auto settings are. Im a medium warrior for most games I want to play

Smuggiebear
Yes i really love WiC and lost planet for this.Yes having a built in benchmark will really help this matter.But sadly PC gamers have abnormally low standards so you cant help it.
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#21 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

? No? since I bought my 8800 over a year and 4 months ago, ive jsut pu the disk in, installed, played ... Auto Detects Max settings. with the exception of Crysis...

1 out of ... 15-20 games ...

Tech_Guy_2

Who are you trying to kid.I also have an 8800 and even HL2 and COD4 donot give me max settings even though i can max them real easy.And the optimal settings dont know anything about the levels of filtering that you are going to apply.

And secondly you are basically telling me that when my 8800 becomes old i will have to upgrade otherwise i will have to play with the settings in every game.Sorry but that is just FAIL.

Half-Life 2 does?

Who are YOU trying to kid, Half-Life 2 automatically puts everything on high, the only thing NOT maxxed is the AA/FSAA ... which optional by user preferance.

That and full world reflect?

Takes 2 seconds ... what on earth is your point exactly?

You can set your graphic card to Force FSAA/AA to a certain level anyway so your point is still moot.

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#22 lowe0
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Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware.

Killfox

Please, those things are totally inaccurate. Crysis decided my E6750/8800GT setup should be running the game on Very High at 1280x1024. Yeah, RIGHT. That hardware can barely handle High, and really should be on Medium for a stable framerate.

And autodetectors still don't capture every setting on your system - for example, you have to set resolution in every single game. Your system already knows what resolution your monitor is; you selected it to run Windows!

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#23 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

So a game without mods has 0 replayability ?

Yet again I have to deal with the complete ignorant people ASSuming things again. I in no way siad that. What I am saying is that sure you can play it more than once but once your done playing through it becomes a little boring. So what do I do. I download mods like the faiakes mod for STALKER which completely changes the game. Thus I am enjoying my game a lot more than you.

Umm yeah you did :|

And why are you acting like console games dont have different difficulty setting and whanot halo 3 is a perfect example of how you can trun off and on skulls to change up your experience in SP. Bungie created forge (a type of mod program) so people can make whatever they want in MP and share it with there friends. :roll:

So Idk what your talking about

Please point me to where I said "a game without mods has 0 replayability." Thats right I didnt.

Please. If thats your example of a mods thats just sad. Here i'll give you a link to the STALKER mod I'm talking about. http://stalker.filefront.com/file/Faiakes_Mod;83643

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#24 Senor_Kami
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Well, this thread has turned into two men bickering like school girls but i'm going to reply anyways. The Pros/Cons of PC gaming vs console gaming are the pros/cons of one thing: STANDARDIZATION. The pros all fall as console pros and the cons all fall as PC pros.
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Killfox

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

I am a PC gamer actually so dont think you can lie to me.Optimal settings that a game gives you is a complete joke.I cannot max out HL2 through optimal settings whereas i can actually max it easily.

I just bought need for speed prostreet.When i loaded the game guess what was giving low settings in 640x480.The game needless to say looks terrible but runs a charm but when i put all settings to max it doesnt run very well.So WTF am i supposed to do.The game had no optimal settings.It just gives you the lowest possible settings and then well what do we do then?:roll:

Sorry man but PC gaming is just sad until this horrible flaw is fixed.

You over exaggerating the problem beyond belief. Like I just bought bioshock alittle while ago. It took my like a minute to figure out what settings I wanted and I was done and reasy to play. Also we install games to have faster load times just like the PS3 is starting to do. Stop complaining about installing. It takes me like 5 minutes to install a game.

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

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#26 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Tech_Guy_2

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

I am a PC gamer actually so dont think you can lie to me.Optimal settings that a game gives you is a complete joke.I cannot max out HL2 through optimal settings whereas i can actually max it easily.

I just bought need for speed prostreet.When i loaded the game guess what was giving low settings in 640x480.The game needless to say looks terrible but runs a charm but when i put all settings to max it doesnt run very well.So WTF am i supposed to do.The game had no optimal settings.It just gives you the lowest possible settings and then well what do we do then?:roll:

Sorry man but PC gaming is just sad until this horrible flaw is fixed.

You over exaggerating the problem beyond belief. Like I just bought bioshock alittle while ago. It took my like a minute to figure out what settings I wanted and I was done and reasy to play. Also we install games to have faster load times just like the PS3 is starting to do. Stop complaining about installing. It takes me like 5 minutes to install a game.

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

I dont even own crysis. Ive been waiting to get a new GFX card sine I hate my 7950GX2 which I got for free. Im waiting to see how these nvidia cards handle games like crysis. Im in no rush to get a new graphics card though since I can play almost all other games on max.

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#27 naval
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I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

Tech_Guy_2

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

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#28 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

? No? since I bought my 8800 over a year and 4 months ago, ive jsut pu the disk in, installed, played ... Auto Detects Max settings. with the exception of Crysis...

1 out of ... 15-20 games ...

Meu2k7

Who are you trying to kid.I also have an 8800 and even HL2 and COD4 donot give me max settings even though i can max them real easy.And the optimal settings dont know anything about the levels of filtering that you are going to apply.

And secondly you are basically telling me that when my 8800 becomes old i will have to upgrade otherwise i will have to play with the settings in every game.Sorry but that is just FAIL.

Half-Life 2 does?

Who are YOU trying to kid, Half-Life 2 automatically puts everything on high, the only thing NOT maxxed is the AA/FSAA ... which optional by user preferance.

That and full world reflect?

Takes 2 seconds ... what on earth is your point exactly?

You can set your graphic card to Force FSAA/AA to a certain level anyway so your point is still moot.

So?the game wont know that when giving the optimal settings.:roll:
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#29 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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REPLAYABILITY mean you play it more then ONCE your saying us console gamers can only play it ONCE why dont you put the pieces to the puzzle together and try to figure out what you meant :roll:

I never said Console mods were better then PC mods I said developers put programs into there console games that extend the replayability which you think us console gamers can only play once :roll:

And no need to call someone ignorant when you say something that worth arguing real mature on your part :roll:

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#30 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

? No? since I bought my 8800 over a year and 4 months ago, ive jsut pu the disk in, installed, played ... Auto Detects Max settings. with the exception of Crysis...

1 out of ... 15-20 games ...

Tech_Guy_2

Who are you trying to kid.I also have an 8800 and even HL2 and COD4 donot give me max settings even though i can max them real easy.And the optimal settings dont know anything about the levels of filtering that you are going to apply.

And secondly you are basically telling me that when my 8800 becomes old i will have to upgrade otherwise i will have to play with the settings in every game.Sorry but that is just FAIL.

Half-Life 2 does?

Who are YOU trying to kid, Half-Life 2 automatically puts everything on high, the only thing NOT maxxed is the AA/FSAA ... which optional by user preferance.

That and full world reflect?

Takes 2 seconds ... what on earth is your point exactly?

You can set your graphic card to Force FSAA/AA to a certain level anyway so your point is still moot.

So?the game wont know that when giving the optimal settings.:roll:

Hence the game is forced to use the settings renedering the "Auto-configure" useless anyway? same with Resolution.... so whats left?

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#31 Killfox
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REPLAYABILITY mean you play it more then ONCE your saying us console gamers can only play it ONCE why dont you put the pieces to the puzzle together and try to figure out what you meant :roll:

I never said Console mods were better then PC mods I said developers put programs into there console games that extend the replayability which you think us console gamers can only play once :roll:

And no need to call someone ignorant when you say something that worth arguing real mature on your part :roll:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

No I even said "sure you can play it more than once." So fail on your first part.

For your second point. Look at my first sentence. So there is fail number to 2.

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#32 Tech_Guy_2
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I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

naval

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

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#33 Uberbadassmufuh
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TC: Actually a lot of PC gamers ENJOY tweaking their settings with a new game. Figuring out what system resources the game uses to what degree for a given set of peramiters is pretty fun. Even if autodetecting settings was more spot on than it is today I'd still tweak. Many PC enthusiasts build their PC's with thier tweaking preferences in mind, giving headroom for the things they absolutely must have and perhaps skimping a bit to save money in areas in which they can go without. It really is a core part of PC gaming.
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#34 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

REPLAYABILITY mean you play it more then ONCE your saying us console gamers can only play it ONCE why dont you put the pieces to the puzzle together and try to figure out what you meant :roll:

I never said Console mods were better then PC mods I said developers put programs into there console games that extend the replayability which you think us console gamers can only play once :roll:

And no need to call someone ignorant when you say something that worth arguing real mature on your part :roll:

Killfox

No I even said "sure you can play it more than once." So fail on your first part.

For your second point. Look at my first sentence. So there is fail number to 2.

No you didnt :lol: want me to quote you again to were you said

"while your playing a game once" :roll: Just admit you made a mistake jezz

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#35 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

Tech_Guy_2

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

I have a 8800 GTS 640 MB, Q6600 2.4 , 3GB 800 RAM.

I saw the lag, I turned down Shadoes to medium (not low, which seems to be "off" ) , removed AA.

Played the game the entire way through. 1650 x 1050 ..

Oh and Volemetric Clouds... seeing as you barely look up at the sky, only time this was good was the Aerial Combat mission.

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#36 Killfox
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

Tech_Guy_2

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

If the final game is anything the demo. It only took my about 5 minutes to figure my optimal settings for the game. I initially put everything to max at 1680 by 1050 since that the native resolution for my monitor. Then I worked my way backwards. Well I had FRAPS on to. I turned down my resolution. I just found what setting took away the most FPS and turned those down and kept the other ones at high that didnt really effect the FPS.

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#37 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

REPLAYABILITY mean you play it more then ONCE your saying us console gamers can only play it ONCE why dont you put the pieces to the puzzle together and try to figure out what you meant :roll:

I never said Console mods were better then PC mods I said developers put programs into there console games that extend the replayability which you think us console gamers can only play once :roll:

And no need to call someone ignorant when you say something that worth arguing real mature on your part :roll:

Killfox

No I even said "sure you can play it more than once." So fail on your first part.

For your second point. Look at my first sentence. So there is fail number to 2.

I had already retracted my statement by saying this in my other post. "What I am saying is that sure you can play it more than once."

So you are the one that is wrong. I retracted my statement. So that comment is null.

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#38 wemhim
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You're not much of a tech guy I see.
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#39 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

Tech_Guy_2

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

sorry that's just your assumption. it took me few 5-10 minutes to read what the properties in config files do and few more minutes to modify those. that's all. if it took you two days i feel sorry for you.

also for people who don't like changing config entries, an easier option would have been get a pre-made config file.

also on pcs with so many options i can choose my optimum fps /resolution/graphics quality etc combination . how much of that is on consoles? for me not having this option is sad

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#40 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

naval

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

sorry that's just your assumption. it took me few 5-10 minutes to read what the properties in config files do and few more minutes to modify those. that's all. if it took you two days i feel sorry for you.

also for people who don't like changing config entries, an easier would have been get a pre-made config file.

also on pcs with so many options i can choose my optimum fps /resolution/graphics quality etc combination . how much of that is on consoles? for me not having this option is sad

Agreed. Mass effect. It dropped to as low as like 5 FPS at times. I would rather turn down a few things than have it slow down that much.

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#41 slickchris7777
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Customizable settings is a good thing...
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#42 wemhim
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

Killfox

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

sorry that's just your assumption. it took me few 5-10 minutes to read what the properties in config files do and few more minutes to modify those. that's all. if it took you two days i feel sorry for you.

also for people who don't like changing config entries, an easier would have been get a pre-made config file.

also on pcs with so many options i can choose my optimum fps /resolution/graphics quality etc combination . how much of that is on consoles? for me not having this option is sad

Agreed. Mass effect. It dropped to as low as like 5 FPS at times. I would rather turn down a few things than have it slow down that much.

When it comes to PC(Confirmed I think...) I'm sure PC gamers will enjoy better settings at a higher FPS. ZOMG! That's why PC gaming is great. Pretty much any game can reach 60FPS at max sometime(Crysis has yet to be able to...) unless it's locked at a lower FPS. Even if you have the money to blow on consoles, you'll never get anything out of it, because they're standardized.
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#43 Vandalvideo
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Completely and utterly wrong. Most games come with auto settigns nowadays that will be able to give settings that allow for FPS that are perfectly fine. Besides, why on earth would you use fraps in the firstp lace?
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#44 linkin_guy109
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oh wow, that seriously made me crack up lol, i might have to use that for future referrence
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#45 Tech_Guy_2
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"][QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

I dont have a problem with installing games AT ALL.

And how much time did it take you to figure out the settings in crysis.It took me 2 days.

Killfox

lol, to me it looks like there is a problem with you rather than pc gaming if such simple things take so long for you to do. it took me around 10-5 minutes for crysis and that too is quite high, mostly because crysis is a highly configurable game

Than you are not running crysis optimally for your PC.Period.

I mean seriously are you kidding me?So you played crysis for the first time ever and it took you just 5 min to know what settings you are going to play?I have an 8800GTX.I obviously just like anyother 8800 owner initially loaded the game with very high settings and well it was pathetic.Then i auto detected the settings and it still ran poorly.LOL

sorry that's just your assumption. it took me few 5-10 minutes to read what the properties in config files do and few more minutes to modify those. that's all. if it took you two days i feel sorry for you.

also for people who don't like changing config entries, an easier would have been get a pre-made config file.

also on pcs with so many options i can choose my optimum fps /resolution/graphics quality etc combination . how much of that is on consoles? for me not having this option is sad

Agreed. Mass effect. It dropped to as low as like 5 FPS at times. I would rather turn down a few things than have it slow down that much.

Unless you are playing in medium settings you cannot avoid MASSIVE slowdowns sometimes in crysis especially that last boss fight so your point.:|
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[QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Killfox

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

They all work really bad.

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#47 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="Tech_Guy_2"]

A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Arnalion

Most games now a days check your systems setting before even playing it sets it what thinks will perform best on you hardware. So that just about makes this hold thread fail. Oh hey how bout you go play with some mods. Oh wait you cant. Too bad. While your playing a game once I can play it again with mods and have a completely different experience than the first time.

They all work really bad.

They all work perfectly fine. For the most part, unless you're using ancient hardware, you're going to be getting comperable FPS to consoles, so you console folk have no room to complain anyway with your 30fps. Atleast with PCs you have the OPTION to tweak your settings to get as high FPS as you want.
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A console gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing.Bingo.:)

A PC gamer buys a game,loads it up and starts playing with the errr settings of the game:lol: .Then he forgets something,closes the game,runs fraps and then loads the game up again.Then he starts the game forgeting about the actual start of the game and just concentrates on the yellow letters showing the fps.Then he tries to tinker with the settings seeing as what affects what.Then he thinks that he has found the setings so he starts the game in seriousness only to realize after 30 min that the first level was not as demanding and he overestimated his PC so dang let's play with the settings again.Well now he thinks he has to tinker with the nvidia control panel to get the best performance.

Oh dear god PC gaming is just incredibly sad.:cry:

Tech_Guy_2

apart from describing the typical day of a retard (or kid) trying to be a PC gamer, i dont see how all of that is accurate. I mean, all the AAA PC games of 2007 have been plug and play for me, granted i get the choice of fooling around with the settings if i want to (what, you dont like choice, or freedom?). If you cant figure out that your computer doesnt meet the min-spec of a game, sorry but you need to go back to school and learn how to read, because as far as I know, the spec-list on the box or on retail websites is clear enough to read. At least for edumacated peeplz.

the only game that gave me trouble in 2007 was Gears of War for PC, partly because CliffyB forgot how to make games for PCs now and doesnt care anyway, so I dont care about any Epic game from now on. The other part is microsoft being stupid with their buggy and facepalm-ridden Games for Windows initiative that hinders PC gaming and its progress, instead of helping it grow.

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#49 lowe0
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the only game that gave me trouble in 2007 was Gears of War for PC, partly because CliffyB forgot how to make games for PCs now and doesnt care anyway, so I dont care about any Epic game from now on. The other part is microsoft being stupid with their buggy and facepalm-ridden Games for Windows initiative that hinders PC gaming and its progress, instead of helping it grow.

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No offense, but if you're on the Vegas dev team, should you really be ragging on your engine licensor? Doesn't seem like good business to me....
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#50 wemhim
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I still don't understand how not using auto settings is so bad, "OMG I HAVE TO CHECK THE PERFORMANCE". You gaining something from the 3rd grade assignment complexity...User freedom, you can manipulate your software to work for JOO! That's why we have uber expensive PCs, so people with the dough can get the extra stuff, with consoles, you just gotta go with what they give you(Which is fine).