The DRM for the new Simcity just sounds awful : (

http://www.destructoid.com/simcity-cranks-the-always-online-drm-up-to-eleven-240898.phtml

The most upvoted question for Maxis concerned the game's DRM, with a user asking what would happen to his game should he lose his Internet connection. Senior producerKip Katsarelis answered that "short" outages are handled "gracefully," meaning that if you can get online quick enough, you won't lost any progress. Unfortunately, nobody at Maxis yet knows how quick you have to be.

What really annoyed users, however, was the idea that they have no power the save their games offline. Instead, cloud saves are being used as DRM in their own right, as only Maxis is allowed to maintain your progress. Of course publishers found a way to turn cloud saving into another form of product control.

"We will allow you to play for as long as we can preserve your game state," Katsarelis added. "This will most likely be minutes."

what's the point of fighting piracy if it ends up losing you just as many sales, as well as hurting your reputation?

either way, I'm sure it will be modded to allow offline saving shortly after release.

Just crap. I was interested in this game. Now there's no chance I get it.

The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

Sagem28

Dear PC Gamers,

Stop Pirating

Sincerely, the ever-dying PC gaming.

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

WilliamRLBaker

How can they report pirates ? How can you check if somebody has a pirated copy ?

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

WilliamRLBaker

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

gamebreakerz__

Sim City 2000 was the best one anyway.

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

WilliamRLBaker

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

starjet905

Nope

and yeah, you are absolutely right. What they mean to accomplish by this, besides losing sales, is beyond me.

Anything that forces me to put Origin on my PC is a no-go for me by default.

Anything that forces me to put Origin on my PC is a no-go for me by default.

Sagem28

So you aren't buying a single EA game ? Won't you miss out on any games you are interested in then ?

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Anything that forces me to put Origin on my PC is a no-go for me by default.

R4gn4r0k

So you aren't buying a single EA game ? Won't you miss out on any games you are interested in then ?

Not on PC, no.

The only EA games I bought recently were Mass Effect, and I got those on console.

Not on PC, no.

The only EA games I bought recently were Mass Effect, and I got those on console.

Sagem28

What if they put origin on consoles too (which they plan on doing). Will you stop buying their games entirely ?

Doesn't affect me. Don't care. Everywhere I play PC games has an internet connection. It's almost 2013, not 2003.

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

WilliamRLBaker

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Not on PC, no.

The only EA games I bought recently were Mass Effect, and I got those on console.

R4gn4r0k

What if they put origin on consoles too (which they plan on doing). Will you stop buying their games entirely ?

I probably will...

It may sound silly, but I really dislike EA. I refuse to support them.
Killing Bioware was the last straw for me.

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] then thats the fault of the legitimate users maybe if they spent some time reporting pirates they know or beating the s''' out of them there would be less piates R4gn4r0k

Nope

and yeah, you are absolutely right. What they mean to accomplish by this, besides losing sales, is beyond me.

Its going to end up like Spore did. Pirated to hell because of the pants on head retarded DRM that sucked over legitimate consumers.clyde46

Ugh spore. Don't remind me of that POS. What a waste of money. I don't know if this can be pirated though, they seem to really design the game around the online components. But it won't sell good either if they go through with DRM like this.

If even Ubisoft (certainly the worst culprits of DRM) can see that it didn't solve anything, in fact made things worse, why can't EA ?

I probably will...

It may sound silly, but I really dislike EA. I refuse to support them.
Killing Bioware was the last straw for me.

Sagem28

Oh, I can understand you disliking EA. But I don't understand why you are willing to pay more for a console version, because you don't want to use a third party program. :P

It's the same as steam, lots of games require it so there is no getting around it anymore. Sure, steam is the better service by far, but in essence they are both the same.

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Not on PC, no.

The only EA games I bought recently were Mass Effect, and I got those on console.

Sagem28

What if they put origin on consoles too (which they plan on doing). Will you stop buying their games entirely ?

I probably will...

It may sound silly, but I really dislike EA. I refuse to support them.
Killing Bioware was the last straw for me.

I'm in the same boat.

I might have an interest in playing an EA game, but their practices are just so bad at times that I can't bring myself to support them.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] then thats the fault of the legitimate users maybe if they spent some time reporting pirates they know or beating the s''' out of them there would be less piates clyde46

William is a PC gamer. I wonder how many pirates he has reported or beaten up?

Actually no I don't I already know the answer: he's a hypocrite.

Oh, I can understand you disliking EA. But I don't understand why you are willing to pay more for a console version, because you don't want to use a third party program. :P

It's the same as steam, lots of games require it so there is no getting around it anymore. Sure, steam is the better service by far, but in essence they are both the same.

R4gn4r0k

I'm not a big fan of Steam's DRM either, or any DRM for that matter.

However, Valve never really ticked me off the way EA did :P

I'm not a big fan of Steam's DRM either, or any DRM for that matter.

However, Valve never really ticked me off the way EA did :P
Sagem28

Understandable. Steam has to be the most acceptable form of DRM though. I use it a lot to chat and take screenshots and the sales are great.

Origin I only use for playing Battlefield 3 these days really. I don't use their store because its always in french (which I speak, but I want to be greeted with my mother tongue) and it doesn't work for me half of the time.

Yeah EA is worse than Valve, but they are both companies going for a profit. Only EA is willing to go over corpses for that.

Understandable. Steam has to be the most acceptable form of DRM though. I use it a lot to chat and take screenshots and the sales are great.

Origin I only use for playing Battlefield 3 these days really. I don't use their store because its always in french (which I speak, but I want to be greeted with my mother tongue) and it doesn't work for me half of the time.

Yeah EA is worse than Valve, but they are both companies going for a profit. Only EA is willing to go over corpses for that.

R4gn4r0k

The Origin store is french ? What ?
You don't have a dutch option ?Don't they know this is a very touchy subject in our country ? :o

I'm hating them even more now :evil:

I'm gonna report my grandma for singing copyrighted happy birthday, and my little sis for downloading that picture for her school project. Filthy pirates!KungfuKitten

That's not good enough. You have to beat the sh1t out of them too, or they will never learn

The Origin store is french ? What ?
You don't have a dutch option ?Don't they know this is a very touchy subject in our country ? :o

I'm hating them even more now :evil:

Sagem28

You can switch to dutch, but it always reverts back to french. Also when I close Battlefield I get like an ad for a game that is on sale or just released in french, with no option to switch language.

I speak french very well but that kind of behaviour is indeed very touchy.

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The Origin store is french ? What ?
You don't have a dutch option ?Don't they know this is a very touchy subject in our country ? :o

I'm hating them even more now :evil:

R4gn4r0k

You can switch to dutch, but it always reverts back to french. Also when I close Battlefield I get like an ad for a game that is on sale or just released in french, with no option to switch language.

I speak french very well but that kind of behaviour is indeed very touchy.

Yeah, I'm pretty much perfectly bilingual too.
You pretty much have to be to find a decent job near the language border...

Still, shame on you, EA ! :P

Please stay away from this game and let them roll around in their own crap. Let's just agree that this is going too far for any gamer. They'll probably try to lure you with insane price drops or changing some of their DRM at the last minute. Don't fall for it, just let it burn. This is going way too far. Way too far.

Yeah, I'm pretty much perfectly bilingual too.
You pretty much have to be to find a decent job near the language border...

Still, shame on you, EA ! :P

Sagem28

Oh right yeah, you did office management too. Our languages had to be good in order to pass that :P. Do you use a lot of languages at your job or mostly Dutch and French ?

If they're gonna localize something, they better do it well, or not do it at all.

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Yeah, I'm pretty much perfectly bilingual too.
You pretty much have to be to find a decent job near the language border...

Still, shame on you, EA ! :P

R4gn4r0k

Oh right yeah, you did office management too. Our languages had to be good in order to pass that :P. Do you use a lot of languages at your job or mostly Dutch and French ?

If they're gonna localize something, they better do it well, or not do it at all.

No French at all, just Dutch/English and some basic German. I want to improve my German though, thats gonna be my next move.

No French at all, just Dutch/English and some basic German. I want to improve my German though, thats gonna be my next move.

Sagem28

I'm not that good at German. I can understand it very well, speak it alright but the writing I absolutely suck at. There are so many grammatical rules (and exceptions to those rules), and I have absolutely no feeling for them.

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No French at all, just Dutch/English and some basic German. I want to improve my German though, thats gonna be my next move.

R4gn4r0k

I'm not that good at German. I can understand it very well, speak it alright but the writing I absolutely suck at. There are so many grammatical rules (and exceptions to those rules), and I have absolutely no feeling for them.

Dutch is a lot worse, though.

Thank God we knew that language from the get-go :P

Maxis have been dead since Spore, without will wright they are nothing.

Dutch is a lot worse, though.

Thank God we knew that language from the get-go :P

Sagem28

Haha, thats true

I don't know if this can be pirated though, they seem to really design the game around the online components. But it won't sell good either if they go through with DRM like this.R4gn4r0k

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]I don't know if this can be pirated though, they seem to really design the game around the online components. But it won't sell good either if they go through with DRM like this.gamebreakerz__

Hmm yeah that's true.

What about Diablo 3 ? Did they crack that game ?

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The pirates will find a work around, and the only people who'll get fvcked by this are the paying consumers.

As per usual. Keep up the good work, EA.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]I don't know if this can be pirated though, they seem to really design the game around the online components. But it won't sell good either if they go through with DRM like this.R4gn4r0k

Hmm yeah that's true.

What about Diablo 3 ? Did they crack that game ?

I dont see the problem here, who does not have Internet 24/7 any way`?:|

I dont see the problem here, who does not have Internet 24/7 any way`?:|

aroxx_ab

You're kidding right ?

Right ?