The Final Four...complete experiences matter....

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#101 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You can't make that statement when the films are three-six years old. :| And no one cares about Crash. We're not discussing Crash.

Yet it also won Best Picture, but it was forgotten because it simply wasn't that good.

Yeah, but that has no bearing on the movies we're discussing, all of which were excellent films.

way to move the goalposts....notice my earlier criticism that Oscar winners do not stand the test of time. Crash is easily part of my argument.
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I don't think AC3 should be considered. It wasn't that great. I agree with the other 3. They are fantastic. I'd say put Max Payne 3 there instead of AC3, though. Max Payne is a lot of fun to play and it just has some awesome writing that made the story for me.

Bleh, all shooters :( I wish there was more variety this year.

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Really? I LOVED AC3, its my GOTY and IMO best AC game yet. The scenery was beautiful, I liked the characters, the music was awesome, the gameplay was fun. The only problem I had was the bugs really. And some of the story missions could have been done better.
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#103 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Games with subpar gameplay SHOULD be omitted. TWD is subpar in its gameplay compared to other adventure games...hell, even against Heavy Rain, its a step back.texasgoldrush

Who defines "subpar"? Yourself?

I'm not exactly sure that TWD is competing with Heavy Rain. Differing budgets/ideas.

the gameplay of choice and consquence. Nevermind TWD lack of good puzzles.

You didn't answer my question.

Choice and consequence is a popular idea, but Heavy Rain and TWD seem to go about it in entirely different manners. I've yet to finish TWD (up to Ep4), but I found Heavy Rain's decision making to be far more in-depth, and to have a much larger impact on the story.

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#104 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] It is a complete game, although weak in some areas. And it has been winning GOTY awards as well.Shinobishyguy

Its not a complete game. Its buggy and half assed.

No more buggy than most other open world games really...

the entire game desmond has a hump growing out of his back that clips through his backpack :| theres no excuse for laziness like that.
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#105 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Yet it also won Best Picture, but it was forgotten because it simply wasn't that good.

Yeah, but that has no bearing on the movies we're discussing, all of which were excellent films.

way to move the goalposts....notice my earlier criticism that Oscar winners do not stand the test of time. Crash is easily part of my argument.

If anyone's moving the goalposts here, it's you. You just keep picking new movies when your arguments for the previous ones don't work. You were more than happy to talk about Pulp Fiction and Shawshank until I brought up the fact that they lost to Forrest Gump, and then you never mentioned them again. And the idea that all (or even most) Oscar winners don't stand the test of time is insane. One film doesn't prove anything, especially in relation to video games, which is what we should really be talking about.
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#106 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Who defines "subpar"? Yourself?

I'm not exactly sure that TWD is competing with Heavy Rain. Differing budgets/ideas.

lundy86_4

the gameplay of choice and consquence. Nevermind TWD lack of good puzzles.

You didn't answer my question.

Choice and consequence is a popular idea, but Heavy Rain and TWD seem to go about it in entirely different manners.

And actually they don't....in Heavy Rain your choices and outcomes matter and alter the ending, in TWD they don't. They are behind. They lag behind others in the genre when it comes to other adventure gameplay elements such as puzzles as well. basically TWD is a visual novel and visual novels have bo business winning GOTY. An example of a COMPLETE adventure game would be Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis or Grim Fandango. Games that don't skimp on the gameplay.
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#107 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yeah, but that has no bearing on the movies we're discussing, all of which were excellent films.

way to move the goalposts....notice my earlier criticism that Oscar winners do not stand the test of time. Crash is easily part of my argument.

If anyone's moving the goalposts here, it's you. You just keep picking new movies when your arguments for the previous ones don't work. You were more than happy to talk about Pulp Fiction and Shawshank until I brought up the fact that they lost to Forrest Gump, and then you never mentioned them again. And the idea that all (or even most) Oscar winners don't stand the test of time is insane. One film doesn't prove anything, especially in relation to video games, which is what we should really be talking about.

And yet the biggest criticsm against the oscars is that they don't stand the test of time. Yes, video games are different in that most GOTY winners do stand the test of time, but there is a reason for this.....they were COMPLETE games, and they help break new ground. TWD is niether of this. Nevermind that yes Forrest Gump won, but Shawshank Redemption is considered by many to be one of the best movies of the decade, even all time. That movie stands the test of time far better than Forrest Gump does, and Pulp Fiction, same thing.
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#108 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] way to move the goalposts....notice my earlier criticism that Oscar winners do not stand the test of time. Crash is easily part of my argument.

If anyone's moving the goalposts here, it's you. You just keep picking new movies when your arguments for the previous ones don't work. You were more than happy to talk about Pulp Fiction and Shawshank until I brought up the fact that they lost to Forrest Gump, and then you never mentioned them again. And the idea that all (or even most) Oscar winners don't stand the test of time is insane. One film doesn't prove anything, especially in relation to video games, which is what we should really be talking about.

And yet the biggest criticsm against the oscars is that they don't stand the test of time. Yes, video games are different in that most GOTY winners do stand the test of time, but there is a reason for this.....they were COMPLETE games, and they help break new ground. TWD is niether of this.

That's a load of garbage. And you know The Walking Dead won't stand the test of time when it's being hailed as an important title in the medium for storytelling because....?
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#109 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] If anyone's moving the goalposts here, it's you. You just keep picking new movies when your arguments for the previous ones don't work. You were more than happy to talk about Pulp Fiction and Shawshank until I brought up the fact that they lost to Forrest Gump, and then you never mentioned them again. And the idea that all (or even most) Oscar winners don't stand the test of time is insane. One film doesn't prove anything, especially in relation to video games, which is what we should really be talking about.

And yet the biggest criticsm against the oscars is that they don't stand the test of time. Yes, video games are different in that most GOTY winners do stand the test of time, but there is a reason for this.....they were COMPLETE games, and they help break new ground. TWD is niether of this.

That's a load of garbage. And you know The Walking Dead won't stand the test of time when it's being hailed as an important title in the medium for storytelling because....?

Because its not true......nothing in there breaks new ground in storytelling.
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#110 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] And yet the biggest criticsm against the oscars is that they don't stand the test of time. Yes, video games are different in that most GOTY winners do stand the test of time, but there is a reason for this.....they were COMPLETE games, and they help break new ground. TWD is niether of this.

That's a load of garbage. And you know The Walking Dead won't stand the test of time when it's being hailed as an important title in the medium for storytelling because....?

Because its not true......nothing in there breaks new ground in storytelling.

Lots of people disagree. And ultimately, your opinion on the game has nothing to do with how it will be remembered.
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#111 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That's a load of garbage. And you know The Walking Dead won't stand the test of time when it's being hailed as an important title in the medium for storytelling because....?

Because its not true......nothing in there breaks new ground in storytelling.

Lots of people disagree. And ultimately, your opinion on the game has nothing to do with how it will be remembered.

Then lots of people have not played very many games...there are stories far superior than TWD and did what TWD does....better.
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#112 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Because its not true......nothing in there breaks new ground in storytelling.

Lots of people disagree. And ultimately, your opinion on the game has nothing to do with how it will be remembered.

Then lots of people have not played very many games...there are stories far superior than TWD and did what TWD does....better.

The only difference between entertainment that succeeds and entertainment that fails is how people react to it. Nothing else (not even quality) matters.
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#113 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Lots of people disagree. And ultimately, your opinion on the game has nothing to do with how it will be remembered.

Then lots of people have not played very many games...there are stories far superior than TWD and did what TWD does....better.

The only difference between entertainment that succeeds and entertainment that fails is how people react to it. Nothing else (not even quality) matters.

and yet it seems that most gamers consider other titles to be better than TWD....at IGN, at Gamesradar, and at Gamespot..
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#114 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Then lots of people have not played very many games...there are stories far superior than TWD and did what TWD does....better.

The only difference between entertainment that succeeds and entertainment that fails is how people react to it. Nothing else (not even quality) matters.

and yet it seems that most gamers consider other titles to be better than TWD....at IGN, at Gamesradar, and at Gamespot..

Most gamers consider Call of Duty to be the best thing ever. Argumentum ad populum is a waste of my time.
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#115 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The only difference between entertainment that succeeds and entertainment that fails is how people react to it. Nothing else (not even quality) matters.

and yet it seems that most gamers consider other titles to be better than TWD....at IGN, at Gamesradar, and at Gamespot..

Most gamers consider Call of Duty to be the best thing ever. Argumentum ad populum is a waste of my time.

Then why does it not have many reader awards or votes this year? It lost here pretty quickly and more shooter fans are picking Far Cry 3. And don't tell me editor's choices are not argumentum ad populum.
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#116 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet it seems that most gamers consider other titles to be better than TWD....at IGN, at Gamesradar, and at Gamespot..

Most gamers consider Call of Duty to be the best thing ever. Argumentum ad populum is a waste of my time.

Then why does it not have many reader awards or votes this year? It lost here pretty quickly and more shooter fans are picking Far Cry 3.

Because most gamers don't vote on gaming websites. Stop acting stupid.
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#117 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Most gamers consider Call of Duty to be the best thing ever. Argumentum ad populum is a waste of my time.

Then why does it not have many reader awards or votes this year? It lost here pretty quickly and more shooter fans are picking Far Cry 3.

Because most gamers don't vote on gaming websites. Stop acting stupid.

and yet you are acting stupid by mentioning argumentum ad populum is a waste of time and you are here....and any awards is AAP.
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#118 ArisShadows
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Lol.. Won't be remembered, don't be silly now..
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#119 MakeMeaSammitch
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The only game I think that deserves to be there that isn't is borderlands 2.

I'll be happy if far cry 3 wins.

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#120 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Then why does it not have many reader awards or votes this year? It lost here pretty quickly and more shooter fans are picking Far Cry 3.texasgoldrush
Because most gamers don't vote on gaming websites. Stop acting stupid.

and yet you are acting stupid by mentioning argumentum ad populum is a waste of time and you are here....and any awards is AAP.

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#121 Promised_Trini
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I hope Far Cry 3 takes it,as much as I like Mass Effect 3,and AC3.

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#122 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Because most gamers don't vote on gaming websites. Stop acting stupid.DarkLink77

and yet you are acting stupid by mentioning argumentum ad populum is a waste of time and you are here....and any awards is AAP.

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and yet, its a vote, its a popularity contest between 3 to 30 people...its AAP. It doesn't matter if its 30 or 100,000...its a popularity contest in a set of people.
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#123 texasgoldrush
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The only game I think that deserves to be there that isn't is borderlands 2.

I'll be happy if far cry 3 wins.

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However, Borderlands 2 has been doing very well in "Reader" or "Gamer" choice awards. I am not suprised. I expected it to win here, but it may not be the case. I also expected ME3 to lose earlier due to the stupid hatred the game has, but here it is...probaly going to beat ACIII. It may even beat Far Cry 3. ME3 did win Gamesradar Reader's choice and GR editors expressed shock.
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#124 jethrovegas
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What you do you think you mean, exactly, when you say "complete experience"? And how do you define value? The time it takes to beat a game? The raw amount of content? Dragon Age is stuffed with content, but the vast majority of it is filler combat not worth one battle experienced, much less a thousand or so.

The notion that because a game is shorter than another it doesn't have as much value is deluded, frankly. Hotline Miami is extremely short in comparison with any of the Final Four, but I would argue that its quality and originality makes it superior to any of them.

What good is a 60 hour game if, for the most part, you do the same sh*t over and over again? Or, if a game is better for the four hours it lasts than that 60 hour game ever is in all its grand obesity, which game is superior? Obviously the better game; if it truly is good, truly better than the others, then you'll want to play it again and again, or, perhaps, it will be so good that you will be satisfied immensely by a short and excellent time spent with it.

I felt that Braid was a great game, and provided much more "bang for my buck" than any Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, or Borderlands title ever did. I have not played Journey or The Walking Dead, but that's beside the point; your claims are inherently flawed.

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#125 Agent-Tojed
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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

The only game I think that deserves to be there that isn't is borderlands 2.

I'll be happy if far cry 3 wins.

texasgoldrush

However, Borderlands 2 has been doing very well in "Reader" or "Gamer" choice awards. I am not suprised. I expected it to win here, but it may not be the case. I also expected ME3 to lose earlier due to the stupid hatred the game has, but here it is...probaly going to beat ACIII. It may even beat Far Cry 3. ME3 did win Gamesradar Reader's choice and GR editors expressed shock.

Well, GS users did vote Gordon Freeman as the best hero of all time , so I'll take their opinion with a grain of salt.

This isn't a discredit to ME3(even if I did think it was 2/3rd's of suckage), but using Reader's Choice as ownage is...unusual.

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#126 Vaasman
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Mass Effect 3 is easily the most complete game this year. texasgoldrush
Judging from the original post i assume by "most complete" you mean most content. To which I have to say that is completely bogus, as several much larger games were developed this year.

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#127 Peredith
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Don't you need to buy all the extra DLC for Mass Effect for the story to make a tiny bit more sense (although the story is still broken)?

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#128 CanYouDiglt
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I am glad Mass Effect 3 is doing so well and it deserves it. No matter what happens it is my personal goty.
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Mass Effect 3 is easily the most complete game this year. Vaasman

Judging from the original post i assume by "most complete" you mean most content. To which I have to say that is completely bogus, as several much larger games were developed this year.

Wrong Its that it brings all facets of the game design to the table. Good to great gameplay (the make or break) Good to great story Good to great art design (more important than technical graphics) Good to great soundtrack and voice acting Replay value. Its not about content unless there is too little...and Journey is guilty. TWD is all about story and VA, everything else is below par. Journey is all art and sound...nothing else.
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#130 texasgoldrush
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Don't you need to buy all the extra DLC for Mass Effect for the story to make a tiny bit more sense (although the story is still broken)?

Peredith
And yet games been doing this for years....want more story and a more clarified story...buy the expansion. And the final ending of ME3 is far from broken and for good measure, the AC3 ending fits the themes of that game as well.
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#131 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Mass Effect 3 is easily the most complete game this year. texasgoldrush

Judging from the original post i assume by "most complete" you mean most content. To which I have to say that is completely bogus, as several much larger games were developed this year.

Wrong Its that it brings all facets of the game design to the table. Good to great gameplay (the make or break) Good to great story Good to great art design (more important than technical graphics) Good to great soundtrack Replay value. Its not about content unless there is too little...and Journey is guilty.

Texas _____ doesn't matter unless it supports my argument :roll:

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#132 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet you are acting stupid by mentioning argumentum ad populum is a waste of time and you are here....and any awards is AAP.texasgoldrush

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and yet, its a vote, its a popularity contest between 3 to 30 people...its AAP. It doesn't matter if its 30 or 100,000...its a popularity contest in a set of people.

Critics voting on the game they believe to be best =/= fans voting for their favorite game, regardless of quality.
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#133 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Don't you need to buy all the extra DLC for Mass Effect for the story to make a tiny bit more sense (although the story is still broken)?

texasgoldrush
And yet games been doing this for years....want more story and a more clarified story...buy the expansion. And the final ending of ME3 is far from broken and for good measure, the AC3 ending fits the themes of that game as well.

Most games don't need DLC to make the story good. And seriously, is it impossible for you to make a post without "and yet" in there somewhere? :?
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#134 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

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DarkLink77

and yet, its a vote, its a popularity contest between 3 to 30 people...its AAP. It doesn't matter if its 30 or 100,000...its a popularity contest in a set of people.

Critics voting on the game they believe to be best =/= fans voting for their favorite game, regardless of quality.

This. Because there are blind fanboys like goldrush that would vote for Mass effect regardless of the other options.

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#135 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Judging from the original post i assume by "most complete" you mean most content. To which I have to say that is completely bogus, as several much larger games were developed this year.

Jonwh18

Wrong Its that it brings all facets of the game design to the table. Good to great gameplay (the make or break) Good to great story Good to great art design (more important than technical graphics) Good to great soundtrack Replay value. Its not about content unless there is too little...and Journey is guilty.

Texas _____ doesn't matter unless it supports my argument :roll:

wrong, read the thread again
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Mass Effect 3 is easily the most complete game this year. Vaasman

Judging from the original post i assume by "most complete" you mean most content. To which I have to say that is completely bogus, as several much larger games were developed this year.

I agree. I don't see how ME3 is the most complete game this year, at all. It has a fairly long single player campaign and horder mode, however, a lot of games have a sizable single player and co-op experience. Far Cry 3 has all of that plus competitive multiplayer and a map maker. Not to mention it has more than one ending unlike Mass Effect 3 :P

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#137 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

Don't you need to buy all the extra DLC for Mass Effect for the story to make a tiny bit more sense (although the story is still broken)?

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And yet games been doing this for years....want more story and a more clarified story...buy the expansion. And the final ending of ME3 is far from broken and for good measure, the AC3 ending fits the themes of that game as well.

Most games don't need DLC to make the story good. And seriously, is it impossible for you to make a post without "and yet" in there somewhere? :?

Once again....the game has a FREE DLC to fix the biggest issues. Its basically a patch because the EC also has bug fixes.
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#138 PannicAtack
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The Walking Dead loses out in Gamespot's GOTY thing. Texasgoldrush is still butthurt about its success and popularity.
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#139 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

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and yet, its a vote, its a popularity contest between 3 to 30 people...its AAP. It doesn't matter if its 30 or 100,000...its a popularity contest in a set of people.

Critics voting on the game they believe to be best =/= fans voting for their favorite game, regardless of quality.

Nope, its still opinion...its the one they liked the best...same thing with a fan that votes on a game site.
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#140 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Wrong Its that it brings all facets of the game design to the table. Good to great gameplay (the make or break) Good to great story Good to great art design (more important than technical graphics) Good to great soundtrack Replay value. Its not about content unless there is too little...and Journey is guilty.texasgoldrush

Texas _____ doesn't matter unless it supports my argument :roll:

wrong, read the thread again

why would I want to read through an entire thread of you jacking it to mass effect3 and getting pissed that others don't blindly ignore its obvious flaws like you do?

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#141 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] And yet games been doing this for years....want more story and a more clarified story...buy the expansion. And the final ending of ME3 is far from broken and for good measure, the AC3 ending fits the themes of that game as well.

Most games don't need DLC to make the story good. And seriously, is it impossible for you to make a post without "and yet" in there somewhere? :?

Once again....the game has a FREE DLC to fix the biggest issues. Its basically a patch because the EC also has bug fixes.

So the game isn't perfect by any stretch of the mark, if it needs DLC to rewrite a such diaster.
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#142 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Mass Effect 3 is easily the most complete game this year. AmayaPapaya

Judging from the original post i assume by "most complete" you mean most content. To which I have to say that is completely bogus, as several much larger games were developed this year.

I agree. I don't see how ME3 is the most complete game this year, at all. It has a fairly long single player campaign and horder mode, however, a lot of games have a sizable single player and co-op experience. Far Cry 3 has all of that plus competitive multiplayer and a map maker. Not to mention it has more than one ending unlike Mass Effect 3 :P

Once again its not about content...its about how you do all the facets well....art, sound, gameplay, story, etc. Content is only an issue if there is too little to justify its price....one of the things I criticize ME3's Omega DLC for. This is what I am bashing TWD for...its lackluster gameplay. Not the quantity of its content.
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#143 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet, its a vote, its a popularity contest between 3 to 30 people...its AAP. It doesn't matter if its 30 or 100,000...its a popularity contest in a set of people.

Critics voting on the game they believe to be best =/= fans voting for their favorite game, regardless of quality.

Nope, its still opinion...its the one they liked the best...same thing with a fan that votes on a game site.

Not even close.
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#144 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Texas _____ doesn't matter unless it supports my argument :roll:

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wrong, read the thread again

why would I want to read through an entire thread of you jacking it to mass effect3 and getting pissed that others don't blindly ignore its obvious flaws like you do?

and yet people like you and bashers of the game ignore its successes.....and at first, yes there were flaws in ME3.....the underdeveloped ending, the prevention of getting the best ending without multiplayer, and the massive bug in engineering which can shut of character progression of the crew there......all fixed by the Extended Cut, with the only major flaw remaining being the horrible start new players without imports face. You ignore the obvious fixes to the flaws.
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#145 Jonwh18
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#146 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Critics voting on the game they believe to be best =/= fans voting for their favorite game, regardless of quality.

Nope, its still opinion...its the one they liked the best...same thing with a fan that votes on a game site.

Not even close.

Its the same...deal with it. They can become fans as well of a series and have biases. You think game journalists don't have biases? You think that they don't latch on to the hype as fans do? Get real.
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#147 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Nope, its still opinion...its the one they liked the best...same thing with a fan that votes on a game site.

Not even close.

Its the same...deal with it. They can become fans as well of a series and have biases. You think game journalists don't have biases? You think that they don't latch on to the hype as fans do? Get real.

I think a majority of them have the ability to say "This game was not my favorite, but it is the best game this year," which is something most gamers can't do.
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#148 texasgoldrush
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downloader.php?file=me33.gif:lol:

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your point is?
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#149 Jonwh18
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

downloader.php?file=me33.gif:lol:

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your point is?

just having a laugh at the terrible animations. yet another flaw in this overall medicore game.

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#150 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Not even close.

Its the same...deal with it. They can become fans as well of a series and have biases. You think game journalists don't have biases? You think that they don't latch on to the hype as fans do? Get real.

I think a majority of them have the ability to say "This game was not my favorite, but it is the best game this year," which is something most gamers can't do.

And the key word that defeats your argument is "I think".