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#1 hakanakumono
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Warning, this is somewhat of an essay but it has a point. If you want, skim to the bold. If you're especially impatient, skip to the red.

I recently started reading a book called "Black Rain," a translated Japanese historical novel that chronicles a survivor's journey through the decimated "spacious island" city (hiroshima). Previously I had thought that the atom bomb was something that simply destroyed everything. There seems to be a common attitude that the atom bomb is dropped and everything is destroyed, leaving a blank slate. To my surprise, the said to be accurate novel (based off of the experiences of real survivors) describes the survivors making their way through a curiously affected city. Yes, while there was much destruction, at the same time much of the city's infastructure was still there - horribly mangled into a test of wits and physical prowess. People came out of it alive, yet damaged. Characters inch their way under live wires, make their way through trecherous paths, and a variety of other obstacles that scream the essence of "survival."

This is the very survival emphasized in Survival Horror. And suddenly the survival stories of those who made it out of Raccoon City alive come to mind. Yes, we're departing from reality into videogame land. Isn't this exactly the same spirit behind the Resident Evil titles involving Raccoon? I suppose the word "survival" has no meaning behind "horror" without the word "struggle" hidden in it's meaning. This is exactly what Resident Evil is about, except struggle and survival not only includes the mangled infastructure of a once thriving city, but zombies and other horrible monstrosities.

The funny thing is, an atom bomb was dropped on Raccoon city ... and apparently capcom made the supposition that it would create a blank slate situation as well. Raccoon city, a pile of rubble. Resident Evil 3 provides the overwhelming feeling of being "over" and being "unfinished" all at the same time. People constantly claim that Resident Evil was getting stale or that it needed a change into what ultimately became a new series titled "Resident Evil 4" that lost the emphasis on struggle that had come to prevail into titles of old. The real reason why RE got stale is because Capcom seemed to be intent on stretching their new cash cow so thin there was no milk left to give before properly concluding it.

Going back to 1999, with the knowledge of what real affects an atom bomb have and the massive potential for biohazard + radiation in mind, Raccoon City didn't really have to end with 3. In fact, a bigger struggle than ever could have been realized. If people from hiroshima didn't die, then what's to say that people in Raccoon or even more likely the monsters wouldn't survive? Which is why Capcom needs to realize the pressure cooker of biological threat that should exist in Raccoon City. Even though Capcom didn't capitilize on it when they should have, who's to say that there isn't something horrible sleeping under what was Raccoon City just waiting to wreak havoc?

I can't help but feel that capcom missed out on so much potential. There's this perpetual idea that because "Resident Evil was never scary" it should just give up on trying. As technology, expertise, and resources increase - Resident Evil should CONTINUE to try to bring out the emphasis of the previous titles more so than they were able to. Let's have some new horrible threat crawl out of Raccoon City, attack another, and apply new technology, ideas, and resources to it. Let's touch on what was cheesy before, and try to make it compelling. Let's take biological horror disaster and make it a drama. What Resident Evil is now is a confused mess. It doesn't know what it wants to be. Screw the critics with 13 year old mentalities that would write off what isn't action. Capcom, if you could develop a new action series and title it "Resident Evil" just to guarantee sales there's no reason you can't make SURVIVAL HORROR better than you ever had before and title it "Resident Evil" to guarantee sales once again.

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The future of resident evil is a game series i will no longer play, I will look back to the old games maybe go back and play them, I will read the awesome book versions by SD perry now and then and think of how capcom skrewed the lady overy by making such a dramatic shift in RE4 that she couldn't continue the book series which is one of my fav book series, I'll think back to what Resident evil was, An amazing game series that appealed to core fans....Then ill remember capcom wanted money bastardized the game so as to appeal to more people and killed the series for me.

Good bye Resident evil...Good Bye....

R.I.P Janurary 11th 2005 Resident Evil Series

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The future of resident evil is a game series i will no longer play, I will look back to the old games maybe go back and play them, I will read the awesome book versions by SD perry now and then and think of how capcom skrewed the lady overy by making such a dramatic shift in RE4 that she couldn't continue the book series which is one of my fav book series, I'll think back to what Resident evil was, An amazing game series that appealed to core fans....Then ill remember capcom wanted money bastardized the game so as to appeal to more people and killed the series for me.

Good bye Resident evil...Good Bye....

R.I.P Janurary 11th 2005 Resident Evil Series

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Thou shall be missed!! :cry:

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And before people start mentioning the "horrible" controls, RE4 had them too. It just changed the camera angle to what was essentially an evolution of the Siren camera system optimized for RE's more action heavy gameplay. Actually, if you look at RE4 and Siren's camera's and controls they're very similar. ... Curiously, RE4's camera system changed AFTER Siren's release ... (2003 Japan). HMMMM.

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If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)
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#6 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

The future of resident evil is a game series i will no longer play, I will look back to the old games maybe go back and play them, I will read the awesome book versions by SD perry now and then and think of how capcom skrewed the lady overy by making such a dramatic shift in RE4 that she couldn't continue the book series which is one of my fav book series, I'll think back to what Resident evil was, An amazing game series that appealed to core fans....Then ill remember capcom wanted money bastardized the game so as to appeal to more people and killed the series for me.

Good bye Resident evil...Good Bye....

R.I.P Janurary 11th 2005 Resident Evil Series

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Thou shall be missed!! :cry:

Capcom can bring it back if they really wanted to. It doesn't have to be the end. Of course, that's a very optimistic outlook on my part that i don't necessarily believe. ^^;

I can't help but think that although that the production of RECV and REmake ultimately resulted int he production of amazing games, it was the beggining of the end for Resident Evil (side games and remakes milking it dry).

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If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)IronBass

RE2, RE3, RECV, REmake, and RE0 were all high quality games too, you know.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)hakanakumono

RE2, RE3, RECV, REmake, and RE0 were all high quality games too, you know.

Sure I know. I played every one of them. Just that I like the new formula more. A lot more, actually.
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If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)IronBass

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

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And before people start mentioning the "horrible" controls, RE4 had them too. It just changed the camera angle to what was essentially an evolution of the Siren camera system optimized for RE's more action heavy gameplay. Actually, if you look at RE4 and Siren's camera's and controls they're very similar. ... Curiously, RE4's camera system changed AFTER Siren's release ... (2003 Japan). HMMMM.

hakanakumono

I have no beef with the controls.

I'm used to the controls as I love my old RE.... but I always used the d-pad and RE5 just denied me that. Using the analog just suck so bad.

But the controls don't have anything with the ruining of the series.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)IronBass

RE2, RE3, RECV, REmake, and RE0 were all high quality games too, you know.

Sure I know. I played every one of them. Just that I like the new formula more. A lot more, actually.

I think the new formula is okay, and makes for fun games, but I'll always like the old formula better.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)ThugKing6669

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

Change is good when it involves building upon what you've had and taking it to new heights witht hose changes.

The problem is that instead of an evolution of the previous games, RE decided it needed to start over in totally different territory.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)ThugKing6669

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

That's something that kinda annoys me. If you say RE4 or RE5 is the best game (or just one of the best) of the series, for a misterious reason it automatically means that you have never played the old ones :roll: A lot of us liked the old games, but simply like the new ones, too. I wonder what's so difficult to understand.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)ThugKing6669

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

I never wanted the game series to change i loved resident evil, I loved survival horror, RE has turned into action games, with RE4 baring a slight resemblence to the games of old and RE5 bearing no resemblence. I never wanted it to change and it did and its dead to me because of it. *cries* Oh father who art in heaven we are gathered here today to lay the earthly body of this franchise to the earth.....
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[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)IronBass

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

That's something that kinda annoys me. If you say RE4 or RE5 is the best game (or just one of the best) of the series, for a misterious reason it automatically means that you have never played the old ones :roll: A lot of us liked the old games, but simply like the new ones, too. I wonder what's so difficult to understand.

I liked my good old RE very very much, but I can say 4 is an excellent game. Check the score I gave it: a perfect 10 IIRC.

BUT RE5 just messed so many things so much...

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[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)IronBass

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

That's something that kinda annoys me. If you say RE4 or RE5 is the best game (or just one of the best) of the series, for a misterious reason it automatically means that you have never played the old ones :roll: A lot of us liked the old games, but simply like the new ones, too. I wonder what's so difficult to understand.

The reason why it upsets people is because the comparisons are unfair. They're fundamentally different games. It's like saying Final Fantasy isn't as good as Sim City because Sim City is a better city simulator. Well ...

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The reason why it upsets people is because the comparisons are unfair. They're fundamentally different games. It's like saying Final Fantasy isn't as good as Sim City because Sim City is a better city simulator. Well ... hakanakumono

I can't remember anyone saying RE4 was a better survival-horror game. What I have always heard is that RE4 was a better game (another expression for "I like it more").

And you can like a game more than other(s) regardless of their genres.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

hakanakumono

That's something that kinda annoys me. If you say RE4 or RE5 is the best game (or just one of the best) of the series, for a misterious reason it automatically means that you have never played the old ones :roll: A lot of us liked the old games, but simply like the new ones, too. I wonder what's so difficult to understand.

The reason why it upsets people is because the comparisons are unfair. They're fundamentally different games. It's like saying Final Fantasy isn't as good as Sim City because Sim City is a better city simulator. Well ...

The comparisons between RE pre RE4 and RE post RE4 are not unfair at all. They are the same type of game. Yes in RE 4 and 5, there are no zombies. That dosen't make them different. There is still that survival aspect, and that horror aspect. Maybe it's not as apparent as it was in the older games, but it's not that big of a deal. I liked the older games myself. RE 2 is still one of my favorite games. But there comes a time where sometimes things have to move on. In this case, change is good, they actually improved upon the formula. So I really don't see why it's a problem, and everyone is declaring the series dead just because they didn't like the game. If you don't like it don't play it, simple really.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] That's something that kinda annoys me. If you say RE4 or RE5 is the best game (or just one of the best) of the series, for a misterious reason it automatically means that you have never played the old ones :roll: A lot of us liked the old games, but simply like the new ones, too. I wonder what's so difficult to understand.ThugKing6669

The reason why it upsets people is because the comparisons are unfair. They're fundamentally different games. It's like saying Final Fantasy isn't as good as Sim City because Sim City is a better city simulator. Well ...

The comparisons between RE pre RE4 and RE post RE4 are not unfair at all. They are the same type of game. Yes in RE 4 and 5, there are no zombies. That dosen't make them different. There is still that survival aspect, and that horror aspect. Maybe it's not as apparent as it was in the older games, but it's not that big of a deal. I liked the older games myself. RE 2 is still one of my favorite games. But there comes a time where sometimes things have to move on. In this case, change is good, they actually improved upon the formula. So I really don't see why it's a problem, and everyone is declaring the series dead just because they didn't like the game. If you don't like it don't play it, simple really.

Not really. The game's willfully downplay the survival aspect and the horror aspect is nonexistent by now. They're action games. The previous games were survival horror game's. If we're going to call the new titles Survival Horror games, then they're terrible and don't know what they're doing.

But they're not. Keep in mind that the "survival" in survival horror implies that there is a real struggle behind the survival. RE4 & 5 actively try to downplay the struggle aspect and pump up the action aspect. At this point, both survival and the weak horror that existed in RE4 are nonexistant.

Classic RE = Great Survival horror games.

New RE = Great Action games.

They're both great at what they do, but they're not the same.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]The reason why it upsets people is because the comparisons are unfair. They're fundamentally different games. It's like saying Final Fantasy isn't as good as Sim City because Sim City is a better city simulator. Well ... IronBass

I can't remember anyone saying RE4 was a better survival-horror game. What I have always heard is that RE4 was a better game (another expression for "I like it more").

And you can like a game more than other(s) regardless of their genres.

Sorry. You're right. I misunderstood.

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I enjoyed RE4 and 5 (finished 5 today) and i like the run and gun formula but i find the elements on what made Resident Evil what it was not the camera angle but things like Back tracking, Puzzles, Ammuntion is found instead of picked up from enemies, Zombies and so forth. Now i reccon they should keep the formula of RE main series as it is now for the PS3/360 and incorperate more of the old formula to a RE Wii game! This way it keeps both Old School and New School Resident Evil lovers all happy. If people say "Zombies are pants" then you must of not played the Resident Evil: Remake which had Crimsons as they where much more of a challenge than the normal enemies in the later games of 4 and 5, If they made these the basic enemies of say a RE2 remake (RE1 = T-Virus, RE2 = G-Virus) then this would add alot more challenge to the game. They should keep the new camera angle and just incorperate the old school formula of Puzzles, Back Tracking and so on.
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I enjoyed RE4 and 5 (finished 5 today) and i like the run and gun formula but i find the elements on what made Resident Evil what it was not the camera angle but things like Back tracking, Puzzles, Ammuntion is found instead of picked up from enemies, Zombies and so forth. Now i reccon they should keep the formula of RE main series as it is now for the PS3/360 and incorperate more of the old formula to a RE Wii game! This way it keeps both Old School and New School Resident Evil lovers all happy. If people say "Zombies are pants" then you must of not played the Resident Evil: Remake which had Crimsons as they where much more of a challenge than the normal enemies in the later games of 4 and 5, If they made these the basic enemies of say a RE2 remake (RE1 = T-Virus, RE2 = G-Virus) then this would add alot more challenge to the game. They should keep the new camera angle and just incorperate the old school formula of Puzzles, Back Tracking and so on.Dibdibdobdobo

How about they make a classic RE PS3/360 game with HD graphics instead? ._.;

I'd have to buy a wii and I don't want to buy one for just one game. x_o;

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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]I enjoyed RE4 and 5 (finished 5 today) and i like the run and gun formula but i find the elements on what made Resident Evil what it was not the camera angle but things like Back tracking, Puzzles, Ammuntion is found instead of picked up from enemies, Zombies and so forth. Now i reccon they should keep the formula of RE main series as it is now for the PS3/360 and incorperate more of the old formula to a RE Wii game! This way it keeps both Old School and New School Resident Evil lovers all happy. If people say "Zombies are pants" then you must of not played the Resident Evil: Remake which had Crimsons as they where much more of a challenge than the normal enemies in the later games of 4 and 5, If they made these the basic enemies of say a RE2 remake (RE1 = T-Virus, RE2 = G-Virus) then this would add alot more challenge to the game. They should keep the new camera angle and just incorperate the old school formula of Puzzles, Back Tracking and so on.hakanakumono

How about they make a classic RE PS3/360 game with HD graphics instead? ._.;

I'd have to buy a wii and I don't want to buy one for just one game. x_o;

Wii owners never got RE5 so its fair that they get a actual exclusive RE game(UC and DC are Rail shooters). Capcom are usually good at sharing out the love and RE4 was superb on the Wii. Wii owners probaly said the same thing of "I'd have to buy a wii and I don't want to buy one for just one game. x_o;" so then you know how they felt.

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COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION

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Didn't RE:UC take place between 3 and 4....never played it just though it did
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Didn't RE:UC take place between 3 and 4....never played it just though it didHarlockJC
There was one scenario based on that point in time where ***MAYBE SPOILER TO UC*** Chris and Jill go and take down an Umbrella Factory in Russia (I think thats where) ***END SPOILER*** the other scenarios are of 0, REmake, and 3
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]I enjoyed RE4 and 5 (finished 5 today) and i like the run and gun formula but i find the elements on what made Resident Evil what it was not the camera angle but things like Back tracking, Puzzles, Ammuntion is found instead of picked up from enemies, Zombies and so forth. Now i reccon they should keep the formula of RE main series as it is now for the PS3/360 and incorperate more of the old formula to a RE Wii game! This way it keeps both Old School and New School Resident Evil lovers all happy. If people say "Zombies are pants" then you must of not played the Resident Evil: Remake which had Crimsons as they where much more of a challenge than the normal enemies in the later games of 4 and 5, If they made these the basic enemies of say a RE2 remake (RE1 = T-Virus, RE2 = G-Virus) then this would add alot more challenge to the game. They should keep the new camera angle and just incorperate the old school formula of Puzzles, Back Tracking and so on.Dibdibdobdobo

How about they make a classic RE PS3/360 game with HD graphics instead? ._.;

I'd have to buy a wii and I don't want to buy one for just one game. x_o;

Wii owners never got RE5 so its fair that they get a actual exclusive RE game(UC and DC are Rail shooters). Capcom are usually good at sharing out the love and RE4 was superb on the Wii. Wii owners probaly said the same thing of "I'd have to buy a wii and I don't want to buy one for just one game. x_o;" so then you know how they felt.

*Shrugs* If it's put on wii then i'ts put on wii. Hopefully it'll be put on something ... anything at all ...

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#28 Ballroompirate
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I love RE4 and RE5 but I have to say the spark that got me into the RE series in the first place died out when capcom dropped the awesome story line that 1,2,3 and CV (to some extent the outbreak games also) had.

The whole sudden umbrella going under and the T and G virus mysteriously disappears off the face of the earth pisses me off not to mention the certain MIA status of certain RE characters who havent been heard off since over a decade (where the **** is Barry Burton!!).Capcom just drops the Las plagas BS in our laps and now Uroboros without any ****** background or events leading up to them, its like going on a bad blind date.

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Didn't RE:UC take place between 3 and 4....never played it just though it didManifestoJoe
There was one scenario based on that point in time where ***MAYBE SPOILER TO UC*** Chris and Jill go and take down an Umbrella Factory in Russia (I think thats where) ***END SPOILER*** the other scenarios are of 0, REmake, and 3

What time period was the DS game in then. I though I read something about them doing a game between 3 and 4. Could be wrong.
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The Resident Evil series is a lot like the new TI song "Dead and Gone" Just replace the word "me" with "Resident Evil"
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I love RE4 and RE5 but I have to say the spark that got me into the RE series in the first place died out when capcom dropped the awesome story line that 1,2,3 and CV (to some extent the outbreak games also) had.

The whole sudden umbrella going under and the T and G virus mysteriously disappears off the face of the earth pisses me off not to mention the certain MIA status of certain RE characters who havent been heard off since over a decade (where the **** is Barry Burton!!).Capcom just drops the Las plagas BS in our laps and now Uroboros without any ****** background or events leading up to them, its like going on a bad blind date.

Ballroompirate

I think RE4 is a nice person, it's just not working out with me and them.

I guess I'm still in love with old RE.

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[QUOTE="ManifestoJoe"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Didn't RE:UC take place between 3 and 4....never played it just though it didHarlockJC
There was one scenario based on that point in time where ***MAYBE SPOILER TO UC*** Chris and Jill go and take down an Umbrella Factory in Russia (I think thats where) ***END SPOILER*** the other scenarios are of 0, REmake, and 3

What time period was the DS game in then. I though I read something about them doing a game between 3 and 4. Could be wrong.

You mean the port of the original? ... That was the very beginning.

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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I love RE4 and RE5 but I have to say the spark that got me into the RE series in the first place died out when capcom dropped the awesome story line that 1,2,3 and CV (to some extent the outbreak games also) had.

The whole sudden umbrella going under and the T and G virus mysteriously disappears off the face of the earth pisses me off not to mention the certain MIA status of certain RE characters who havent been heard off since over a decade (where the **** is Barry Burton!!).Capcom just drops the Las plagas BS in our laps and now Uroboros without any ****** background or events leading up to them, its like going on a bad blind date.

hakanakumono

I think RE4 is a nice person, it's just not working out with me and them.

I guess I'm still in love with old RE.

You think RE4 is a nice PERSON?????? and why do you refer to a "person" as "them"???

WTH are you talking about?

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You mean the port of the original? ... That was the very beginning.

hakanakumono

I never played it...So I don't know. Man it's going to drive me crazy and I can't find the link

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yup i missed those days.. sometimes the sight of nemesis makes my pants wet in scared. nowadays i see RE series as a successor of max payne.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)ThugKing6669

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

I don't remember people begging for a change to the RE series when RE1 (ps1 and GC) has sold 4,1000,000 copies between the two,RE2 selling almost 5 million copies,RE3 selling 3.5 million and RE CV selling 3 million.....yeah I'm not seeing where people were begging for a change.

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I don't remember people begging for a change to the RE series when RE1 (ps1 and GC) has sold 4,1000,000 copies between the two,RE2 selling almost 5 million copies,RE3 selling 3.5 million and RE CV selling 3 million.....yeah I'm not seeing where people were begging for a change.Ballroompirate
When the remakes of RE3 and Code Veronica X scored less than 7, and when RE0 sold less than million. Besides, people have been asking for improved controld/camera since the first game.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I love RE4 and RE5 but I have to say the spark that got me into the RE series in the first place died out when capcom dropped the awesome story line that 1,2,3 and CV (to some extent the outbreak games also) had.

The whole sudden umbrella going under and the T and G virus mysteriously disappears off the face of the earth pisses me off not to mention the certain MIA status of certain RE characters who havent been heard off since over a decade (where the **** is Barry Burton!!).Capcom just drops the Las plagas BS in our laps and now Uroboros without any ****** background or events leading up to them, its like going on a bad blind date.

whatisazerg

I think RE4 is a nice person, it's just not working out with me and them.

I guess I'm still in love with old RE.

You think RE4 is a nice PERSON?????? and why do you refer to a "person" as "them"???

WTH are you talking about?

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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]I don't remember people begging for a change to the RE series when RE1 (ps1 and GC) has sold 4,1000,000 copies between the two,RE2 selling almost 5 million copies,RE3 selling 3.5 million and RE CV selling 3 million.....yeah I'm not seeing where people were begging for a change.IronBass
When the remakes of RE3 and Code Veronica X scored less than 7, and when RE0 sold less than million. Besides, people have been asking for improved controld/camera since the first game.

RE0 was a bad idea that looked stupid and was stupid. No wonder people didn't buy it.

Those two were ports. Hardly relevant.

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I vote for bring back the old gameplay, more puzzles and horror, the new gameplay is good too though and capcom knows that most young gamers nowadays never got to experienced the old RE and prefers shooter more, I wouldnt be surprised if they make a fps RE
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]I don't remember people begging for a change to the RE series when RE1 (ps1 and GC) has sold 4,1000,000 copies between the two,RE2 selling almost 5 million copies,RE3 selling 3.5 million and RE CV selling 3 million.....yeah I'm not seeing where people were begging for a change.hakanakumono

When the remakes of RE3 and Code Veronica X scored less than 7, and when RE0 sold less than million. Besides, people have been asking for improved controld/camera since the first game.

RE0 was a bad idea that looked stupid and was stupid. No wonder people didn't buy it.

Those two were ports. Hardly relevant.

More than the scores were the reviews themselves: the gameplay was getting old.
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RE5 was near perfect except inventory and main story MUST BE at least 20hours
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Rusted Evil? I have no clue....maybe there isn't one. :shock:
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] When the remakes of RE3 and Code Veronica X scored less than 7, and when RE0 sold less than million. Besides, people have been asking for improved controld/camera since the first game.IronBass

RE0 was a bad idea that looked stupid and was stupid. No wonder people didn't buy it.

Those two were ports. Hardly relevant.

More than the scores were the reviews themselves: the gameplay was getting old.

Just because a reviewer is bored of the survival horror fad that pervailed in the late 90s doesn't mean that the games are old. It just means they're tired of them.

I can't bring myself to play RE4 more than once. But I can play the old games multiple times. There's just something about them that makes them last for me. There's nothing saying that Capcom couldn't have evolved RE. The problem is that it made a number of improvements, but none of them stuck through to the next title. The only way it got "old" was in that capcom stretched the series to thin that it couldn't seem to develop any new ideas from properly continuing or even concluding it.

This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?

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#45 iam2green
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i think that capcom is heading in the right direction. i liked the new resident evil series (4 and 5). peopel complained about how it isn't like the older ones but wanted different things in the game.... that is how capcom made it. the only thing i want capcom to change are the enemies. when playing resident evil 5 i felt as tho i saw all of these enemies already. the only monsters that were new were the machine gunners, the flying bug thing, the bug, Whesker's form.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

RE0 was a bad idea that looked stupid and was stupid. No wonder people didn't buy it.

Those two were ports. Hardly relevant.

hakanakumono

More than the scores were the reviews themselves: the gameplay was getting old.

Just because a reviewer is bored of the survival horror fad that pervailed in the late 90s doesn't mean that the games are old. It just means they're tired of them.

I can't bring myself to play RE4 more than once. But I can play the old games multiple times. There's just something about them that makes them last for me. There's nothing saying that Capcom couldn't have evolved RE. The problem is that it made a number of improvements, but none of them stuck through to the next title. The only way it got "old" was in that capcom stretched the series to thin that it couldn't seem to develop any new ideas from properly continuing or even concluding it.

This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?

I agree

Though it would be kinda neat to see RE1 and RE2 with RE4's camera or have an option to do it so it would make the cry babies happy,seriously the only problem I have with RE4 and RE5 is the LAME *** story/lol lets skip a decade of events.

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RE is dead, capcom can't afford to go back to the old ways. Just find another, similar series. I'm currently searching >.>

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] More than the scores were the reviews themselves: the gameplay was getting old.Ballroompirate

Just because a reviewer is bored of the survival horror fad that pervailed in the late 90s doesn't mean that the games are old. It just means they're tired of them.

I can't bring myself to play RE4 more than once. But I can play the old games multiple times. There's just something about them that makes them last for me. There's nothing saying that Capcom couldn't have evolved RE. The problem is that it made a number of improvements, but none of them stuck through to the next title. The only way it got "old" was in that capcom stretched the series to thin that it couldn't seem to develop any new ideas from properly continuing or even concluding it.

This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?

I agree

Though it would be kinda neat to see RE1 and RE2 with RE4's camera or have an option to do it so it would make the cry babies happy,seriously the only problem I have with RE4 and RE5 is the LAME *** story/lol lets skip a decade of events.

I honestly think it would be better if they had just properly ended the series with 4, in a game involving Claire, Leon, Chris, and Jill. Except not all action heroed up. They should have waited after CV to come up with ideas, cuz apparently they ran out.

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What the hell. Hate for RE0? My 2nd favourite game of the franchise.
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What the hell. Hate for RE0? My 2nd favourite game of the franchise. Dibdibdobdobo

I think the gameplay is good and fun but the plot is so horrendous that it damages the game and the series.