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i need biohazard survival horror game no another shooter game i miss old biohazard style puzzles scary atmosphere
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This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?hakanakumono
I don't think it's flawed. First, because it was not just "a reviewer". The fact than almost every RE4 review stated that "it was time for a change" or something like that proves that. Secondly, because it let the old characters and plots to continue. I'm glad that they did that way. I really wanted to play as Leon, Chris, Jill etc this way, and too further see what happens with the story. There's nothing flawed on it.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"] This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?IronBass
I don't think it's flawed. First, because it was not just "a reviewer". The fact than almost every RE4 review stated that "it was time for a change" or something like that proves that. Secondly, because it let the old characters and plots to continue. I'm glad that they did that way. I really wanted to play as Leon, Chris, Jill etc this way, and too further see what happens with the story. There's nothing flawed on it.

Reviewers are not always right though. All this boils down to is the persons opinion.
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#54 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"] This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?Dibdibdobdobo
I don't think it's flawed. First, because it was not just "a reviewer". The fact than almost every RE4 review stated that "it was time for a change" or something like that proves that. Secondly, because it let the old characters and plots to continue. I'm glad that they did that way. I really wanted to play as Leon, Chris, Jill etc this way, and too further see what happens with the story. There's nothing flawed on it.

Reviewers are not always right though. All this boils down to is the persons opinion.

I never said they were. I'm just pointing which more or less the reaction after RE4 was.
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"] This is argument essentially boils down to "I'm bored of Resident Evil, so creating a new series and titling Resident Evil is perfectly fine. Fans of the original series can suck it, because I'm personally bored with the series as well as others." See where this is flawed?IronBass
I don't think it's flawed. First, because it was not just "a reviewer". The fact than almost every RE4 review stated that "it was time for a change" or something like that proves that. Secondly, because it let the old characters and plots to continue. I'm glad that they did that way. I really wanted to play as Leon, Chris, Jill etc this way, and too further see what happens with the story. There's nothing flawed on it.

It doesn't prove it, it proves a common sentiment amongst reviewers. These same reviewers also called RE4 the "best survival horror game ever." They're hardly anyone to be taken seriously.

I know you're glad because your preferences are so superior to fans of the majority of the series. Just like those reviewers, right? What's popular is always better am I right? I mean, who cares of RE4 and RE5 might as well be entirely different games? "Time for a change" into game's that aren't "Resident Evil," but bear the same names and characters for the sole purpose of familiarity with the "Resident Evil" name. Ulitmately, games that serve little more than diversions with weak and forced ties to a plot that ulitmately ended with in the first five minutes of a game that would kill off it's characters and replace them with action hero shells, unsure of who their former selves may have been. Yes, it was time for a change so that you and the reviewers could enjoy these great new games titled "Resident Evil" so that no fan of the old series could ever enjoy another Resident Evil game again.

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It doesn't prove it, it proves a common sentiment amongst reviewers. These same reviewers also called RE4 the "best survival horror game ever." They're hardly anyone to be taken seriously. hakanakumono

I think you are misunderstanding what I meant with "the gameplay was getting old". I didn't mean no one liked anymore, or that the games were bad. Si ply that thegameplay had not the abbility to impress in tha same way as it did before. Something very subjective, undeniable.

I know you're glad because your preferences are so superior to fans of the majority of the series. Just like those reviewers, right? What's popular is always better am I right? I mean, who cares of RE4 and RE5 might as well be entirely different games? "Time for a change" into game's that aren't "Resident Evil," but bear the same names and characters for the sole purpose of familiarity with the "Resident Evil" name. Ulitmately, games that serve little more than diversions with weak and forced ties to a plot that ulitmately ended with in the first five minutes of a game that would kill off it's characters and replace them with action hero shells, unsure of who their former selves may have been. Yes, it was time for a change so that you and the reviewers could enjoy these great new games titled "Resident Evil" so that no fan of the old series could ever enjoy another Resident Evil game again.

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"No fan of the old series"? Talking about an exageration ;)

In all of the threads about this matter, I've seen old RE fans that have enjoyed and loved RE4 and RE5. Myself included, of course.

I never said what's popular is good. I was simply saying that a group of gamers wanted a change on RE. Of course, another group wanted.

Capcom decided to listen to the first one, and the results speak for themselves.

Of course, there will always be a unsatisfied group, but that's normal.

There's nothing that can satisfy everybody.

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No one is ever going to enjoy another Resident Evil game because of RE4 and RE5's success. RE4 and RE5 are not RE games. They are imposters with the name "RE" to encourage sales.

I didn't say that no one enjoyed them. I enjoyed RE4 very much so. But the place RE4 takes also represents a space lacking in the market.

It's not the same as the "always unsatisfied group." It's not as if fans of the old series didn't want change. But that change should be within Resident Evil, it should not transform it. It should improve it, not destroy what had been built up. It's not like Final Fantasy where fans complain of slightly different gameplay. Resident Evil changed its goals, atmosphere, gameplay, focus, everything. They don't even resemble "Resident Evil." There's nothing about them that is "Resident Evil."

Which is why the "it's better this way" statment is so upsetting. The same people could have been made just as happy with an entirely new IP. But people who like Resident Evil games and want to see more are sacrificed for those who feel that these new games require "Resident Evil" as a title. There won't be another RE game because those two words sell too much to give them to what had become a niche market.

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It's not the same as the "always unsatisfied group." It's not as if fans of the old series didn't want change. But that change should be within Resident Evil, it should not transform it. It should improve it, not destroy what had been built up. It's not like Final Fantasy where fans complain of slightly different gameplay. Resident Evil changed its goals, atmosphere, gameplay, focus, everything. They don't even resemble "Resident Evil." There's nothing about them that is "Resident Evil."

Which is why the "it's better this way" statment is so upsetting. The same people could have been made just as happy with an entirely new IP. But people who like Resident Evil games and want to see more are sacrificed for those who feel that these new games require "Resident Evil" as a title. There won't be another RE game because those two words sell too much to give them to what had become a niche market.

hakanakumono

The could have lost the name power with a new IP. In that case, it makes a lot of sense staying with the old name. Besides I liketo be ableto play like the old characters that I simply adore.

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#59 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

It's not the same as the "always unsatisfied group." It's not as if fans of the old series didn't want change. But that change should be within Resident Evil, it should not transform it. It should improve it, not destroy what had been built up. It's not like Final Fantasy where fans complain of slightly different gameplay. Resident Evil changed its goals, atmosphere, gameplay, focus, everything. They don't even resemble "Resident Evil." There's nothing about them that is "Resident Evil."

Which is why the "it's better this way" statment is so upsetting. The same people could have been made just as happy with an entirely new IP. But people who like Resident Evil games and want to see more are sacrificed for those who feel that these new games require "Resident Evil" as a title. There won't be another RE game because those two words sell too much to give them to what had become a niche market.

IronBass

The could have lost the name power with a new IP. In that case, it makes a lot of sense staying with the old name. Besides I liketo be ableto play like the old characters that I simply adore.

Yes, they could have. I've already demonstrated I understand the business behind it.

I'm glad your "4" and "5" games were worth the sacrifice. Enjoy following your empty shell heroes.

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#60 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

It's not the same as the "always unsatisfied group." It's not as if fans of the old series didn't want change. But that change should be within Resident Evil, it should not transform it. It should improve it, not destroy what had been built up. It's not like Final Fantasy where fans complain of slightly different gameplay. Resident Evil changed its goals, atmosphere, gameplay, focus, everything. They don't even resemble "Resident Evil." There's nothing about them that is "Resident Evil."

Which is why the "it's better this way" statment is so upsetting. The same people could have been made just as happy with an entirely new IP. But people who like Resident Evil games and want to see more are sacrificed for those who feel that these new games require "Resident Evil" as a title. There won't be another RE game because those two words sell too much to give them to what had become a niche market.

The could have lost the name power with a new IP. In that case, it makes a lot of sense staying with the old name. Besides I liketo be ableto play like the old characters that I simply adore.

Yes, they could have. I've already demonstrated I understand the business behind it.

I'm glad your "4" and "5" games were worth the sacrifice. Enjoy your reanimated "Resident Evil" corpse.

Thank you, I will :)
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

The could have lost the name power with a new IP. In that case, it makes a lot of sense staying with the old name. Besides I liketo be ableto play like the old characters that I simply adore.

IronBass

Yes, they could have. I've already demonstrated I understand the business behind it.

I'm glad your "4" and "5" games were worth the sacrifice. Enjoy your reanimated "Resident Evil" corpse.

Thank you, I will :)

You've provided an excellent example.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You've provided an excellent example.

You too.
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Even if they keep evolving the main series like they have with RE4 and 5, and what they will with 6, Id still be happy if they continue to release offshoot games that stay true to the original formulae. Like another Code Veronica. Its not the exactly the controls i miss, or the camera angles (though i had no problems at all with those aspects in previous games) but it was the atmosphere, the environments, the sense of struggle, the exploration. RE4 pretty much dropped all that, and turned it into a linear shooter with easy peasy puzzles.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You've provided an excellent example.

IronBass

You too.

At this point you must have no idea what i'm talking about. :roll:

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Even if they keep evolving the main series like they have with RE4 and 5, and what they will with 6, Id still be happy if they continue to release offshoot games that stay true to the original formulae. Like another Code Veronica. Its not the exactly the controls i miss, or the camera angles (though i had no problems at all with those aspects in previous games) but it was the atmosphere, the environments, the sense of struggle, the exploration. RE4 pretty much dropped all that, and turned it into a linear shooter with easy peasy puzzles.

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I wouldnt mind a marriage of the two.

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Even if they keep evolving the main series like they have with RE4 and 5, and what they will with 6, Id still be happy if they continue to release offshoot games that stay true to the original formulae. Like another Code Veronica. Its not the exactly the controls i miss, or the camera angles (though i had no problems at all with those aspects in previous games) but it was the atmosphere, the environments, the sense of struggle, the exploration. RE4 pretty much dropped all that, and turned it into a linear shooter with easy peasy puzzles.

-DrRobotnik-

I agree

I as well don't miss the tank controls of the previous RE games but the "darkness" feel that they had is what I miss, not to mention it actually had a awesome Zombie storyline which is freaking hard to do now and days.

If capcom made a RE game (zombies,T/G virus,Umbrella is back ect ect) in a RE4/RE5 play style I would cry,but no I had sit through RE5 yelling "WTF is Uroboros"

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#67 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

Even if they keep evolving the main series like they have with RE4 and 5, and what they will with 6, Id still be happy if they continue to release offshoot games that stay true to the original formulae. Like another Code Veronica. Its not the exactly the controls i miss, or the camera angles (though i had no problems at all with those aspects in previous games) but it was the atmosphere, the environments, the sense of struggle, the exploration. RE4 pretty much dropped all that, and turned it into a linear shooter with easy peasy puzzles.

Ballroompirate

I agree

I as well don't miss the tank controls of the previous RE games but the "darkness" feel that they had is what I miss, not to mention it actually had a awesome Zombie storyline which is freaking hard to do now and days.

If capcom made a RE game (zombies,T/G virus,Umbrella is back ect ect) in a RE4/RE5 play style I would cry,but no I had sit through RE5 yelling "WTF is Uroboros"

I think they should just start over. The series has become such a mess, I'd honestly like to see new characters experienece new horror. Like I said in my post, have mayhem crawl out of the radiated Raccon City and attack a nearby one. Use modern technology to make a better RE than ever before.

Wasn't it amazing how RE managed to have a feeling of darkness with the lights on? Going through the R.P.D. I really felt like the outside was full of crushing darkness. I guess it's all those windows ...

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The future of resident evil is a game series i will no longer play, I will look back to the old games maybe go back and play them, I will read the awesome book versions by SD perry now and then and think of how capcom skrewed the lady overy by making such a dramatic shift in RE4 that she couldn't continue the book series which is one of my fav book series, I'll think back to what Resident evil was, An amazing game series that appealed to core fans....Then ill remember capcom wanted money bastardized the game so as to appeal to more people and killed the series for me.

Good bye Resident evil...Good Bye....

R.I.P Janurary 11th 2005 Resident Evil Series

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And by bastardize you mean make the game playable and not broken? Really now the old Resident Evils were just.....broken and clunky.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

The future of resident evil is a game series i will no longer play, I will look back to the old games maybe go back and play them, I will read the awesome book versions by SD perry now and then and think of how capcom skrewed the lady overy by making such a dramatic shift in RE4 that she couldn't continue the book series which is one of my fav book series, I'll think back to what Resident evil was, An amazing game series that appealed to core fans....Then ill remember capcom wanted money bastardized the game so as to appeal to more people and killed the series for me.

Good bye Resident evil...Good Bye....

R.I.P Janurary 11th 2005 Resident Evil Series

DarkGamer007

And by bastardize you mean make the game playable and not broken? Really now the old Resident Evils were just.....broken and clunky.

How were they broken?

You do know that new RE has the same tank controls? It's just the camera that changed. In other words, its all in your head.

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Resident Evil 5 doesn't have tank controls. The controls are very similar to Gears of War 2, the only thing that resembles tank controls is that you have to stop to shoot, otherwise it controls like any other type of third person shooter.
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Resident Evil 5 doesn't have tank controls. The controls are very similar to Gears of War 2, the only thing that resembles tank controls is that you have to stop to shoot, otherwise it controls like any other type of third person shooter.DarkGamer007

I can't answer for RE5, but RE4 had them. I doubt RE5 is any different. It's just the camera that confuses people.

I have no problem with controlling tank controls. Sure they frustrated me at first, but they were really for the best given the camera.

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Let it be,i appreciate both Adventure and Shooting

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I think that it is about damn time for the resident evil series to be.... Put in space.
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I want to see more classic puzzles. I want them to slow it down. It constantly feels like a damn action game. Keep what works with the new and bring back some old for the love of god.
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[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)WilliamRLBaker

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

I never wanted the game series to change i loved resident evil, I loved survival horror, RE has turned into action games, with RE4 baring a slight resemblence to the games of old and RE5 bearing no resemblence. I never wanted it to change and it did and its dead to me because of it. *cries* Oh father who art in heaven we are gathered here today to lay the earthly body of this franchise to the earth.....

it had to change, you can't have 2d characters with pre rendered backgrounds, it worked back when the game was set in corridors, but it doesn't work in open ended enviroments,resident evil 5 maintains alot of what made resi evil great, ammo conservation,stop and shoot and running away when you are low on health or ammo, i loved the old games, especially remake on the cube but now i have to say resi 5 is my favorite in the series so far, games have to evolve and raccon city was done to death, the series had to move on or it would have become stale.
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I think that it is about damn time for the resident evil series to be.... Put in space.Sylar--

o_o; ... on a ... space ... station ... ship ... or ... something?

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[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)hakanakumono

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

Change is good when it involves building upon what you've had and taking it to new heights witht hose changes.

The problem is that instead of an evolution of the previous games, RE decided it needed to start over in totally different territory.

No, RE4 and 5 are very similar to the old ones, with a few changes, one being the camera, the fact that you can acually aim more than 2 axis, and enemies that are actually dangerous.

oh ya, and no more stupid locked wooden doors that you could easily kick down, or you know, blow open with that shotgun your holding.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

warmaster670

Change is good when it involves building upon what you've had and taking it to new heights witht hose changes.

The problem is that instead of an evolution of the previous games, RE decided it needed to start over in totally different territory.

No, RE4 and 5 are very similar to the old ones, with a few changes, one being the camera, the fact that you can acually aim more than 2 axis, and enemies that are actually dangerous.

oh ya, and no more stupid locked wooden doors that you could easily kick down, or you know, blow open with that shotgun your holding.

What similarities are there?

The "locked wooden" doors weren't stupid. It doesn't matter if they could have technically been blown away; it would have ruined the gameplay.

People have this misconception that RE used to be a shooter. That's generally why they think RE4/5 is better and why old RE is broken (they don't know what they're doing when they play old RE).

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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Change is good when it involves building upon what you've had and taking it to new heights witht hose changes.

The problem is that instead of an evolution of the previous games, RE decided it needed to start over in totally different territory.

hakanakumono

No, RE4 and 5 are very similar to the old ones, with a few changes, one being the camera, the fact that you can acually aim more than 2 axis, and enemies that are actually dangerous.

oh ya, and no more stupid locked wooden doors that you could easily kick down, or you know, blow open with that shotgun your holding.

What similarities are there?

The "locked wooden" doors weren't stupid. It doesn't matter if they could have technically been blown away; it would have ruined the gameplay.

which is sad, since thats pretty much all there is to the game, key hunt, theres hardly anything that could be called a puzzle, at least in RE2, i think i found the power generator near wehre you get the backpack/SMG, and that puzzle is pathetically easy.

the whole game was shoot zombies and find keys.

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#81 SpinoRaptor24
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I don't understand why all these RE fans keep complaining that Capcom ruined the series. For me, I like the direction it's going. Sure RE1, RE2, RE3, RECV etc were all awesome titles, but after playing RE4 and RE5, I can't see myself going back to the fixed camera angles and clunky controls.

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#82 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

No, RE4 and 5 are very similar to the old ones, with a few changes, one being the camera, the fact that you can acually aim more than 2 axis, and enemies that are actually dangerous.

oh ya, and no more stupid locked wooden doors that you could easily kick down, or you know, blow open with that shotgun your holding.

warmaster670

What similarities are there?

The "locked wooden" doors weren't stupid. It doesn't matter if they could have technically been blown away; it would have ruined the gameplay.

which is sad, since thats pretty much all there is to the game, key hunt, theres hardly anything that could be called a puzzle, at least in RE2, i think i found the power generator near wehre you get the backpack/SMG, and that puzzle is pathetically easy.

the whole game was shoot zombies and find keys.

First of all, the majority of puzzles in the game were not solved by keys.

Second of all, the real puzzle is in juggling the key items in your inventory, conserving ammo, and surpassing enemies.

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#83 hakanakumono
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I don't understand why all these RE fans keep complaining that Capcom ruined the series. For me, I like the direction it's going. Sure RE1, RE2, RE3, RECV etc were all awesome titles, but after playing RE4 and RE5, I can't see myself going back to the fixed camera angles and clunky controls.

SpinoRaptor24

You don't like the old games anymore. We do. The sad fact is that Resident Evil is hardly Resident Evil at all. Capcom could have continued Resident Evil while developing this new IP. But the new IP had to be titled "Resident Evil" so fans of Resident Evil games wont be able to play Resident Evil games anymore. Understand?

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#84 SpinoRaptor24
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I don't understand why all these RE fans keep complaining that Capcom ruined the series. For me, I like the direction it's going. Sure RE1, RE2, RE3, RECV etc were all awesome titles, but after playing RE4 and RE5, I can't see myself going back to the fixed camera angles and clunky controls.

hakanakumono

You don't like the old games anymore. We do. The sad fact is that Resident Evil is hardly Resident Evil at all. Capcom could have continued Resident Evil while developing this new IP. But the new IP had to be titled "Resident Evil" so fans of Resident Evil games wont be able to play Resident Evil games anymore. Understand?

I do like the old ones. But I can see where you're coming from.

Capcom has found a new formula for RE that was extremely successful, so they decided to stick to that formula. The best thing Capcom can do now is return the survival horror elements, puzzles, backtracking etc back into RE while still keeping the over the shoulder camera angle that made RE4/5 good.

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#85 Juggernaut140
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main story MUST BE at least 20hoursSyferonik
It's not even half of that :|
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#86 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I don't understand why all these RE fans keep complaining that Capcom ruined the series. For me, I like the direction it's going. Sure RE1, RE2, RE3, RECV etc were all awesome titles, but after playing RE4 and RE5, I can't see myself going back to the fixed camera angles and clunky controls.

SpinoRaptor24

You don't like the old games anymore. We do. The sad fact is that Resident Evil is hardly Resident Evil at all. Capcom could have continued Resident Evil while developing this new IP. But the new IP had to be titled "Resident Evil" so fans of Resident Evil games wont be able to play Resident Evil games anymore. Understand?

I do like the old ones. But I can see where you're coming from.

Capcom has found a new formula for RE that was extremely successful, so they decided to stick to that formula. The best thing Capcom can do now is return the survival horror elements, puzzles, backtracking etc back into RE while still keeping the over the shoulder camera angle that made RE4/5 good.

I agree. Synthesis of new and old is the best option.

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#87 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]main story MUST BE at least 20hoursJuggernaut140
It's not even half of that :|

Most Resident Evil games are 3 ... ._.;

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#88 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I don't understand why all these RE fans keep complaining that Capcom ruined the series. For me, I like the direction it's going. Sure RE1, RE2, RE3, RECV etc were all awesome titles, but after playing RE4 and RE5, I can't see myself going back to the fixed camera angles and clunky controls.

SpinoRaptor24

You don't like the old games anymore. We do. The sad fact is that Resident Evil is hardly Resident Evil at all. Capcom could have continued Resident Evil while developing this new IP. But the new IP had to be titled "Resident Evil" so fans of Resident Evil games wont be able to play Resident Evil games anymore. Understand?

I do like the old ones. But I can see where you're coming from.

Capcom has found a new formula for RE that was extremely successful, so they decided to stick to that formula. The best thing Capcom can do now is return the survival horror elements, puzzles, backtracking etc back into RE while still keeping the over the shoulder camera angle that made RE4/5 good.

Thats what I've been saying since 2005,take the control,camera,inventory ect ect from RE4 or RE5 (RE4 had a better inventory system) and go back to the survival aspect of the past RE games.The last two RE games just feel like mediocre actionflick that just throws a dozen pissed villagers in your face, and btw don't get me started on the lame story line RE5 and RE4 had which left a bad taste in my mouth.

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#89 JuarN18
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I dont know why people love the old camera angles, the unrealistic box system, the boring puzzles, the stupid typewritter save system, the tank controls (try to do a head shoot with those), ohhh... and can you throw your items in RE1-3?

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#90 trollop_scat
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Nice opening post, I would LOVE to see the RE series reurn to Raccoon City! I'd also love to see it take on a serious tone again, and completely dirch Wesker and the old STARS team members - they're all incredibly stale at this point. If they could go back to making it a survival horror again, rather than a shooter, but still include the exciting sequences and crazy boss fights, I'd be in heaven.

On the other hand, if Capcom chooses to keep making generic shooters labeled Resident Evil, I wont be buying them any more. The ball is in Capcom's court...

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#91 Ballroompirate
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I dont know why people love the old camera angles, the unrealistic box system, the boring puzzles, the stupid typewritter save system, the tank controls (try to do a head shoot with those), ohhh... and can you throw your items in RE1-3?

JuarN18

Have you read any post in this topic?

NO ONE misses the old RE control/camera,WE miss the survival aspect of the old RE games.

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#92 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ThugKing6669"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]If they keep the quality of RE4 and RE5, the future of the series is an awesome one 8)WilliamRLBaker

Agreed. Gamers are the ultimate hypocrites. They all beg for change, then when they get it, they complain about how horrible it is and beg for the old ways. RE 4 and RE 5 are amazing. RE 5 is one of my favorite games. I've played every RE except for 0, the Outbreak series, the Survivor series, and Umbrella Chronicles, and I still say RE 5 is one of the best RE games ever.

I never wanted the game series to change i loved resident evil, I loved survival horror, RE has turned into action games, with RE4 baring a slight resemblence to the games of old and RE5 bearing no resemblence. I never wanted it to change and it did and its dead to me because of it. *cries* Oh father who art in heaven we are gathered here today to lay the earthly body of this franchise to the earth.....

I find it funny though that if the game stuck with the same formula, the other side of the coin would've been, "RE dosn't evolve, its needs an overhaul." The way I see it, any franchise that continues to evolve and yet maintain its edge is worthy of praise. RE5 was better than I thought it would be... I enjoyed the coop even more than L4D

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#93 trollop_scat
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NO ONE misses the old RE control/camera,WE miss the survival aspect of the old RE games.Ballroompirate

I do. Mastering the old tank-style was tough and took effort, but once you got it down you felt leet. It was more of a flow, you simply had to train yourself to turn at the right times, when to make sudden stops, and how to juke monsters. It was great, and it still makes me feel like I've accomplished something when I go back through them and knock the rust off.

I don't think going back to the old control system is a MUST, but I would certainly appreciate it. But yeah, controls are a minor point compared to the overall tone and feel of the game. I want another big mansion to explore for half the game. I want a suspensful atmosphere and ceepy music to set the mood. I also want a flying car. Get to it, Capcom...

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#94 JuarN18
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Have you read any post in this topic?

NO ONE misses the old RE control/camera,WE miss the survival aspect of the old RE games.

Ballroompirate

Really??

think the new formula is okay, and makes for fun games, but I'll always like the old formula better.

hakanakumono

I never wanted the game series to change i loved resident evilWilliamRLBaker

You should read more carefully

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#96 mlbslugger86
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to all the purests who wanted it to stay like the old games...

accept change

change is good

its the nature of everything

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#97 hakanakumono
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to all the purests who wanted it to stay like the old games...

accept change

change is good

its the nature of everything

mlbslugger86

Change is change.

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#98 Wolblade
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

You don't like the old games anymore. We do. The sad fact is that Resident Evil is hardly Resident Evil at all. Capcom could have continued Resident Evil while developing this new IP. But the new IP had to be titled "Resident Evil" so fans of Resident Evil games wont be able to play Resident Evil games anymore. Understand?

hakanakumono

I do like the old ones. But I can see where you're coming from.

Capcom has found a new formula for RE that was extremely successful, so they decided to stick to that formula. The best thing Capcom can do now is return the survival horror elements, puzzles, backtracking etc back into RE while still keeping the over the shoulder camera angle that made RE4/5 good.

I agree. Synthesis of new and old is the best option.

While I found RE4 to be rather entertaining, just playing the demo of RE5 showed me that what was left of the horror aspect of the game had finally disappeared. But I agree, a synthesis of old and new is what RE6 needs to be. I think I said this when RE4 had come out... but at the time, I don't think anyone cared. Oh well. I think the guy who currently does the Resident Evil games said that he wanted six to be a fresh start. Maybe we should flood his inbox with our opinions?

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#99 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I do like the old ones. But I can see where you're coming from.

Capcom has found a new formula for RE that was extremely successful, so they decided to stick to that formula. The best thing Capcom can do now is return the survival horror elements, puzzles, backtracking etc back into RE while still keeping the over the shoulder camera angle that made RE4/5 good.

Wolblade

I agree. Synthesis of new and old is the best option.

While I found RE4 to be rather entertaining, just playing the demo of RE5 showed me that what was left of the horror aspect of the game had finally disappeared. But I agree, a synthesis of old and new is what RE6 needs to be. I think I said this when RE4 had come out... but at the time, I don't think anyone cared. Oh well. I think the guy who currently does the Resident Evil games said that he wanted six to be a fresh start. Maybe we should flood his inbox with our opinions?

Maybe we should create a sort of petition?

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#100 Juggernaut140
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to all the purests who wanted it to stay like the old games...

accept change

change is good

its the nature of everything

mlbslugger86
Since when is change always good?