The gaming world moves with consoles, so why do I NEED a gaming PC?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"]Consolites will ALWAYS ignore this and come up with the OMG LIVING ROOM, OMG BIG TV, OMG COUCH, OMG CONTROLLER arguments no matter what we say and how many times we say it. dontshackzmii

gaming pcs are to big to fit on my shelf if i use a controler i will get pwned online fps and rts games which is the reason i even game on pc.

pc's are a constant they are the baseline which has its own percieved baseline... its (technically) a living oxymoron.

the gaming world is based in the consoles now, this is true but pc's will always be the more toolable system the more hardware wise advanced and the more adaptable and mutli-functional and facited. you cant visit facebook and message your girl on your XBOX or your WII (effectively). especially when your pwning n00bs or what have you. consoles are always chasing the pc's shadow though which is the impossibility of the matter. we have the horsepower to see hear and experience what you will get 5-10 20 years from now on your next systems.without the pc gaming world you wouldnt be able to peer into the future and see whats to come.

we also do things that your console cant do like word process and web surf (effectively) and watch movies and make movies and edit photo's and video/voice chat all while gaming.

and the day consoles do we will see the blurry line climax between the two markets and then we shall see who will stand past the other . the console has the quantity but the pc has the quality and the ability to see the future. when that day comes a console will either man up or accept defeat and go the way of the typewriter or the ford model t before it.. a relic of days gone by.. a dead market. if they win pc's will go back to office spaces where you have to juristiction.. and never will.

pc's are also alot easier to play fps's and rts's and mo's and argueably better to play simulators and racing titles on (if you invest enough into a nice setup)

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

You're being very vague.

What exactly is this ebb and flow? And how exactly are console controllign it?

As I mentioned, the PC was the innovator of most things people associate with consoles now a days. And it's the innovator of the things that will eventuall find their way to the console.

The Pc is the playground of developers, publishers, engineers. It's where ideas are tested, developed, evolved.

PC IS the driver of many of the things we associate with gaming. Just because console then embraces them (they would be stupid not to), doesn't mean the consoles are somehow the ones who desrve credit.

On the PC you cna enjoy a multitude of AMZAING free games, a ton of MMO's to please just about any gaming taste. It's the only place you can pre-download a game and have i digitially ready to go at midnight, day of release. It's the only place where you ca see mods turn into franchises. It's the only place you cna see what cutting edge technology can pull off.

There are MANY reasons why it's a fun, egaging, and interesting gmaing platform over consoles. I relaly don't see your point.

By the way I'm 30, started gaming on a super nintendo back in the late 80's.

adamosmaki

you could easily play amnesia on Xbox or PS3, the dev kits are jsut butthurt expensive for indie devs unfortunately.

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] - plug PC into TV - plug controller into PC - argument invalidloosingENDS

Moving my work PC to the living room to play a game is not reallty my idea of having fun

Same if i had to buy a brand new gaming PC to have in the living room

Also not all PC games have native pad controls

So, these arguments are 100% valid, xbox 360 offers me all PC games i want, for 199$, without having to buy a gaming PC or have one in the living room and all games play the way i prefer, with pad

But the games are of a lower quality and the xbox have very very few exclusives worth playing.

It's one aspect of the convenience thing. I like to game and do all my other stuff on one platform. I can't game as much with all the college courses I'm taking. So missing out on games from other platforms isn't a big concern. I have more than enough on the PC as it is.

If I have to pick between having a console for gaming plus a PC for other things and a PC for both gaming and doing other things, I'd pick the PC. But, I have both options at home. So, it's not a concern.

As for my gaming habits? It never moves with what you consider the "gaming world" and I've been gaming for a looooong time.

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] - plug PC into TV - plug controller into PC - argument invalidloosingENDS

Moving my work PC to the living room to play a game is not reallty my idea of having fun

Same if i had to buy a brand new gaming PC to have in the living room

Also not all PC games have native pad controls

So, these arguments are 100% valid, xbox 360 offers me all PC games i want, for 199$, without having to buy a gaming PC or have one in the living room and all games play the way i prefer, with pad

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

AdrianWerner

A gaming PC is a like a Hotrod. You can get a Ford or Toyota and drive it like everyone else or go above the crowd with your own hand built classic. It's more expensive but its also about being an enthisiast. Joe doesn't have a gaming PC, "that" guy does. It's all about preference. Kokuro_Kun

I am a gameplay enthusiast and prefer the analog pad controls by miles over keyboard and mouse, so adding the ease of use of consoles, i get a vastly superior experience playing the same game on consoles than on PC and save huge time and money at the same time

And get all console exclusives like Dark Souls

Now, if giving up all that just to get a bit better visuals in a few games is so important for some, i wont argue, to me is not even close to important enough

i support him.i,as a pc gamer,would only play god of war if santa monica give me money to play their crappy game.same goes for uncharted.hell,i wont play lbp2 even if sony give all the money to me.sickcrack

That's fine if you don't want to play them. I'm talking about PC gamers, not just you, though.

Consoles are so cheap that any pcgamer who has any interest in console exclusives already has one.

AdrianWerner

Certainly plausible. Not definitive, though.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Unfortunately, you have little to back up your assumption that console exclusives do not interest PC gamers.

loosingENDS

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

Hmmmm, really? I dunno what definition you learned, but that's a pretty wide spectrum right there.

Anyway, mATX would be a way to go for a smaller form factor.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Consoles are so cheap that any pcgamer who has any interest in console exclusives already has one.

lundy86_4

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

Hmmmm, really? I dunno what definition you learned, but that's a pretty wide spectrum right there.

Anyway, mATX would be a way to go for a smaller form factor.

Even then i would have to buy a new PC for the living room, since i work on my PC and cant be moved for gaming there

Also a smaller PC case is still far bigger than console and there is always the problem of keyboard and mouse games and windows interface that are not so sofa compatible

I generally have zero desire to have a PC to handle for gaming, i just want to pop the games in 360 and play, no installs, tweaks, drivers, DRM etc etc and pad controls for all games, that is what the best experience is for me

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]A gaming PC is a like a Hotrod. You can get a Ford or Toyota and drive it like everyone else or go above the crowd with your own hand built classic. It's more expensive but its also about being an enthisiast. Joe doesn't have a gaming PC, "that" guy does. It's all about preference. loosingENDS

I am a gameplay enthusiast and prefer the analog pad controls by miles over keyboard and mouse, so adding the ease of use of consoles, i get a vastly superior experience playing the same game on consoles than on PC and save huge time and money at the same time

And get all console exclusives like Dark Souls

Now, if giving up all that just to get a bit better visuals in a few games is so important for some, i wont argue, to me is not even close to important enough

You do know you can use a gamepad on most games right for the pc?

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]A gaming PC is a like a Hotrod. You can get a Ford or Toyota and drive it like everyone else or go above the crowd with your own hand built classic. It's more expensive but its also about being an enthisiast. Joe doesn't have a gaming PC, "that" guy does. It's all about preference. sSubZerOo

I am a gameplay enthusiast and prefer the analog pad controls by miles over keyboard and mouse, so adding the ease of use of consoles, i get a vastly superior experience playing the same game on consoles than on PC and save huge time and money at the same time

And get all console exclusives like Dark Souls

Now, if giving up all that just to get a bit better visuals in a few games is so important for some, i wont argue, to me is not even close to important enough

You do know you can use a gamepad on most games right for the pc?

I know, but not natively in all

Even then i would have to buy a new PC for the living room, since i work on my PC and cant be moved for gaming there

Also a smaller PC case is still far bigger than console and there is always the problem of keyboard and mouse games and windows interface that are not so sofa compatible

I generally have zero desire to have a PC to handle for gaming, i just want to pop the games in 360 and play, no installs, tweaks, drivers, DRM etc etc and pad controls for all games, that is what the best experience is for me

loosingENDS

I'm not saying it's viable for you, or everyone, just that mATX it a legitimate option for people looking to hook a computer up to the living room setup.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I am a gameplay enthusiast and prefer the analog pad controls by miles over keyboard and mouse, so adding the ease of use of consoles, i get a vastly superior experience playing the same game on consoles than on PC and save huge time and money at the same time

And get all console exclusives like Dark Souls

Now, if giving up all that just to get a bit better visuals in a few games is so important for some, i wont argue, to me is not even close to important enough

loosingENDS

You do know you can use a gamepad on most games right for the pc?

I know, but not natively in all

In the most majority of games in whihc a gamepad is fine... Yes you can.. For the games you can't they are by and large the kind of games you would WANT to use a mouse and keyboard for.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Or just has a 199$ xbox 360 that covers most of PC big games, like Witcher 2 etc and fits in his living room better than a huge PC

loosingENDS

Hmmmm, really? I dunno what definition you learned, but that's a pretty wide spectrum right there.

Anyway, mATX would be a way to go for a smaller form factor.

Even then i would have to buy a new PC for the living room, since i work on my PC and cant be moved for gaming there

Also a smaller PC case is still far bigger than console and there is always the problem of keyboard and mouse games and windows interface that are not so sofa compatible

I generally have zero desire to have a PC to handle for gaming, i just want to pop the games in 360 and play, no installs, tweaks, drivers, DRM etc etc and pad controls for all games, that is what the best experience is for me

- A Micro ATX case with an APU cna be SMALLER than a console.

- There are wireless solutions that can take vidoe from your PC to your TV.

My friends all thought gmaing on console was more "convinient" and speedient as well. So we made a little test. We went to my house and I told them, that when we get in we'll try and play left 4 dead on both the console and PC and see what is "most convinient".

It went like this:

Got in to my house and my friend ran past me toward my xbox. He turned on the console. In the meantime I sat down on PC and wiggled my mouse so that it turned on in about 1 second. My friend was still loading up the xbox by the time I double clicked left 4 dead on my steam list.

When Iw as ready to play, in game, he was now realizing that the left 4 dead DVD wasn't in yet, so he had to get up and look for it. I told him where it was. By this time I was already in a game, blowing zombies apart.

He finally loads up left 4 dead. By the time he was in the game, ready to play, I had already got an IM in-game from a friend who wanted to play star craft 2. I was able to load it and join the game with him before my friend was playing left 4 dead.

The reality is that PC gmaing has become moe convient that console gaming, in a lot of cases.

And personally, I'm rather busy, and I'd rather spend my time ACTUALLY playing games, rather than waiting for consoles to boot, looking for DVD's and then waiting for their glacial loading times.

But that's just me.

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

No need for a gaming PC if you have a console.

Pug-Nasty

My laptop runs games very well, but there really isn't a need for a gaming PC when you have a console, since you're getting most of the games anyway.

The logic goes the other way as well, but it's probably cheaper to buy a regular old laptop and a console than it is to buy a gaming PC.

except more need for funds on a gaming PC ... since you are constantly worrying about specs and upgrades every time. consoles run everything designated towards it, without the worry of upgrades.rasengan2552

Plus...consoles do run everything indeed, but it's like lowering details in PC games year after year, each year a bit lower and lower. I can do that just as well on PC and not upgrade for many years. The difference is... pc actually offers me a choice to change that.

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] except more need for funds on a gaming PC ... since you are constantly worrying about specs and upgrades every time. consoles run everything designated towards it, without the worry of upgrades.AdrianWerner

Plus...consoles do run everything indeed, but it's like lowering details in PC games year after year, each year a bit lower and lower. I can do that just as well on PC and not upgrade for many years. The difference is... pc actually offers me a choice to change that.

In the end is just a matter of how much importance you give to graphics, for me games like Crysis 1-2, Witcher 2 look amazing on 360 anyway and have zero desire to upgrade my PC to play them a bit higher there, or buy a new gaming only PC to have in the living room

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] except more need for funds on a gaming PC ... since you are constantly worrying about specs and upgrades every time. consoles run everything designated towards it, without the worry of upgrades.loosingENDS

Plus...consoles do run everything indeed, but it's like lowering details in PC games year after year, each year a bit lower and lower. I can do that just as well on PC and not upgrade for many years. The difference is... pc actually offers me a choice to change that.

In the end is just a matter of how much importance you give to graphics, for me games like Crysis 1-2, Witcher 2 look amazing on 360 anyway and have zero desire to upgrade my PC to play them a bit higher there, or buy a new gaming only PC to have in the living room

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]But in the long run consoles can often be more expensive. Games cost more, you have to re-buy all your accessories, there are constantly some ridiculous fees included and nowadays you often cant even play your old games on new consoles anymore, instead you need to buy HD remakes. With PC at least I always know how much I pay, consoles are cheap, but I constantly have to worry about hidden costs.

Plus...consoles do run everything indeed, but it's like lowering details in PC games year after year, each year a bit lower and lower. I can do that just as well on PC and not upgrade for many years. The difference is... pc actually offers me a choice to change that.

Arach666

In the end is just a matter of how much importance you give to graphics, for me games like Crysis 1-2, Witcher 2 look amazing on 360 anyway and have zero desire to upgrade my PC to play them a bit higher there, or buy a new gaming only PC to have in the living room

I prefer native pad controls in all my games, so actually this is the ultimate advantage for me and is on consoles

I never play online (not on console either), MMOs and mods, so what could PC offer me more than better graphics ?

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

In the end is just a matter of how much importance you give to graphics, for me games like Crysis 1-2, Witcher 2 look amazing on 360 anyway and have zero desire to upgrade my PC to play them a bit higher there, or buy a new gaming only PC to have in the living room

loosingENDS

I prefer native pad controls in all my games, so actually this is the ultimate advantage for me and is on consoles

I never play online (not on console either), MMOs and mods, so what could PC offer me more than better graphics ?

For you I don´t care,you just say you don´t care about them because your consoles don´t have it,just like you do with the games,but that doesn´t invalidate the fact that it has several advantages,and most of them you´d praise if they were on consoles.

Heck,you even use all sorts of kinect games and even try to pass multiplats as exclusives several times expecting no one notices it to boost your sad lists of 360 games. :lol:

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] And if the graphics were the only advantage of the PC you would have a point.Arach666

I prefer native pad controls in all my games, so actually this is the ultimate advantage for me and is on consoles

I never play online (not on console either), MMOs and mods, so what could PC offer me more than better graphics ?

For you I don´t care,you just say you don´t care about them because your consoles don´t have it,just like you do with the games,but that doesn´t invalidate the fact that it has several advantages,and most of them you´d praise if they were on consoles.

Heck,you even use all sorts of kinect games and even try to pass multiplats as exclusives several times expecting no one notices it to boost your sad lists of 360 games. :lol:

I dont try to pass Kinect games as good, Kinect games can be good like Gunstringer

In fact i believe Kinect will bring the next gen in game immersion, interaction in hybrid games and of course there is nothing even close to that on PC

Why would i want to stick to pressing pad keys to do everything when Kinect is around ?

I dont game online, i have very little time for gaming and i never play with mods, since they are not tested stuff from the developers and i usually play games at release and not wait for mods or anything

I dont try to boost 360 list by adding Ryse, Fable Journey, Project Draco, i am genuingly interested in these games for Kinect and will buy them all day one

@loosingENDS: You go on about Witcher 2 quite a lot. But you're forgetting that it's a PC game foremost, and is actually coming out MUCH later on consoles. Do you even have a fixed release date (Q1 2012 doesn't count :P) yet? o.O Anyway, enjoy your 720p Witcher 2. :D (And you can't even play The Witcher 1. I won't be surprised if you say that it doesn't interest you, though. :lol: ) (Same goes for Crysis 1, and even Crysis 2 though it came out at the same time, as the definitive version is easily the PC version once you take into account the hi res texture pack) Anyway, for someone who can afford, the best combination is PC+PS3.

@loosingENDS: You go on about Witcher 2 quite a lot. But you're forgetting that it's a PC game foremost, and is actually coming out MUCH later on consoles. Do you even have a fixed release date (Q1 2012 doesn't count :P) yet? o.O Anyway, enjoy your 720p Witcher 2. :D (And you can't even play The Witcher 1. I won't be surprised if you say that it doesn't interest you, though. :lol: ) (Same goes for Crysis 1, and even Crysis 2 though it came out at the same time, as the definitive version is easily the PC version once you take into account the hi res texture pack) Anyway, for someone who can afford, the best combination is PC+PS3.

starjet905

I have finished Witcher 2 on my non gaming work PC, on low and 1024 resolution

I will replay it on 360 for the far better visuals though and to see the other faction option, hopefully they have better pad controls too

[QUOTE="starjet905"]

@loosingENDS: You go on about Witcher 2 quite a lot. But you're forgetting that it's a PC game foremost, and is actually coming out MUCH later on consoles. Do you even have a fixed release date (Q1 2012 doesn't count :P) yet? o.O Anyway, enjoy your 720p Witcher 2. :D (And you can't even play The Witcher 1. I won't be surprised if you say that it doesn't interest you, though. :lol: ) (Same goes for Crysis 1, and even Crysis 2 though it came out at the same time, as the definitive version is easily the PC version once you take into account the hi res texture pack) Anyway, for someone who can afford, the best combination is PC+PS3.

loosingENDS

I have finished Witcher 2 on my non gaming work PC, on low and 1024 resolution

I will replay it on 360 for the far better visuals though and to see the other faction option, hopefully they have better pad controls too

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"]

@loosingENDS: You go on about Witcher 2 quite a lot. But you're forgetting that it's a PC game foremost, and is actually coming out MUCH later on consoles. Do you even have a fixed release date (Q1 2012 doesn't count :P) yet? o.O Anyway, enjoy your 720p Witcher 2. :D (And you can't even play The Witcher 1. I won't be surprised if you say that it doesn't interest you, though. :lol: ) (Same goes for Crysis 1, and even Crysis 2 though it came out at the same time, as the definitive version is easily the PC version once you take into account the hi res texture pack) Anyway, for someone who can afford, the best combination is PC+PS3.

starjet905

I have finished Witcher 2 on my non gaming work PC, on low and 1024 resolution

I will replay it on 360 for the far better visuals though and to see the other faction option, hopefully they have better pad controls too

I dont try to pass Kinect games as good, Kinect games can be good like Gunstringer

In fact i believe Kinect will bring the next gen in game immersion, interaction in hybrid games and of course there is nothing even close to that on PC

Why would i want to stick to pressing pad keys to do everything when Kinect is around ?

I dont game online, i have very little time for gaming and i never play with mods, since they are not tested stuff from the developers and i usually play games at release and not wait for mods or anything

I dont try to boost 360 list by adding Ryse, Fable Journey, Project Draco, i am genuingly interested in these games for Kinect and will buy them all day one

loosingENDS

Kinect innovation on the PC..

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I dont try to pass Kinect games as good, Kinect games can be good like Gunstringer

In fact i believe Kinect will bring the next gen in game immersion, interaction in hybrid games and of course there is nothing even close to that on PC

Why would i want to stick to pressing pad keys to do everything when Kinect is around ?

I dont game online, i have very little time for gaming and i never play with mods, since they are not tested stuff from the developers and i usually play games at release and not wait for mods or anything

I dont try to boost 360 list by adding Ryse, Fable Journey, Project Draco, i am genuingly interested in these games for Kinect and will buy them all day one

razor0512

Kinect innovation on the PC..

There are no Kinect games on PC

In the end is just a matter of how much importance you give to graphics, for me games like Crysis 1-2, Witcher 2 look amazing on 360 anyway and have zero desire to upgrade my PC to play them a bit higher there, or buy a new gaming only PC to have in the living room

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I have finished Witcher 2 on my non gaming work PC, on low and 1024 resolution

I will replay it on 360 for the far better visuals though and to see the other faction option, hopefully they have better pad controls too

Arach666

Specs:

3GB ram, Intel Core 2 Due E7500 @ 3Ghz,ATI Radeon HD 5400 video card

I have erased the game for months now, i dont have it installed but i have kept the saves, here, you can see the last one before my fight with Letho too

I have erased the game for months now, i dont have it but i have kept the saves, here, you can see the last one before my fight wih Letho

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I have erased the game for months now, i dont have it but i have kept the saves, here, you can see the last one before my fight wih Letho

AdrianWerner

I will replay it on xbox 30 for the far better graphics and controls

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I have erased the game for months now, i dont have it but i have kept the saves, here, you can see the last one before my fight wih Letho

AdrianWerner

What do you mean ?

Plus i have 283 auto saves in the game, i played it more than most people would actually since i like to see everything in RPGs

There are no Kinect games on PC

loosingENDS

Not at the moment but with all the sophisticated hacks people are doing with it nowadays what's stopping them from integrating it into games or even making indie kinect games.

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

There are no Kinect games on PC

razor0512

Not at the moment but with all the sophisticated hacks people are doing with it nowadays what's stopping them from integrating it into games or even making indie kinect games.

Nothing, but as i said there is no Kinect game on PC yet and probably never will be

I cant wait to play the Kinect Mass Effect 3 version on my 360 and Fable JOurney, Ryse, Project Draco, when PC gets anything like those we can discuss it

What do you mean ?

Plus i have 283 auto saves in the game, i played it more than most people would actually since i like to see everything in RPGs

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="starjet905"]Your non gaming work PC? At 1024x768? Mind telling me the specs? Cause Witcher 2 is a beast that takes a lot to even run at that resolution.loosingENDS

Specs:

3GB ram, Intel Core 2 Due E7500 @ 3Ghz,ATI Radeon HD 5400 video card

I have erased the game for months now, i dont have it installed but i have kept the saves, here, you can see the last one before my fight with Letho too

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

What do you mean ?

Plus i have 283 auto saves in the game, i played it more than most people would actually since i like to see everything in RPGs

AdrianWerner

Wait, you mean places you get to go are not same in act 2 ? Where do you go instead of the mines ? That is very intersting :)

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I have erased the game for months now, i dont have it but i have kept the saves, here, you can see the last one before my fight wih Letho

loosingENDS

I will replay it on xbox 30 for the far better graphics and controls

I cant wait to play the Kinect Mass Effect 3 version on my 360 and Fable JOurney, Ryse, Project Draco, when PC gets anything like those we can discuss it

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]You should have played the game twice, becuase you're posting such obvious nonsense about Witcher 2 it makes it look like you're lying about playing the game.

starjet905

I will replay it on xbox 30 for the far better graphics and controls

I played it low and 1024 resolution in my PC, it could not handle better

So, 720 with a medium/high mixed setting on 360 will make it look far far better

I am talking about my PC, not in general

Wait, you mean places you get to go are not same in act 2 ? Where do you go instead of the mines ? That is very intersting :)

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I cant wait to play the Kinect Mass Effect 3 version on my 360 and Fable JOurney, Ryse, Project Draco, when PC gets anything like those we can discuss it

AdrianWerner

I am mostly interested in Ryse, Project Draco and Fable Journey myself, Mass Effect 3 having Kinect suypport is a very nice perk though as well, a agree ME is a bit of a casual RPG too, especially after ME1

Steel Batallion could be good too, From is a great developer

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I will replay it on xbox 30 for the far better graphics and controls

loosingENDS

I played it low and 1024 resolution in my PC, it could not handle better

So, 720 with a medium/high mixed setting on 360 will make it look far far better

I am talking about my PC, not in general

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Wait, you mean places you get to go are not same in act 2 ? Where do you go instead of the mines ? That is very intersting :)

AdrianWerner

I dont recall the name, but i did not go with Roche

Frankly i did not know that :), this is very good news

I though the only difference would be visiting the city people in the last act, while with my choice they were hostile

Cant wait to replay it with the other option

Your PC, if your specs are right, can't even run the game properly (by properly I mean with at least 20 to 25FPS, though optimally, 30FPS is required) at 1024x768.starjet905

It played fine and smooth on low settings and 1024, anything above had slowdowns though