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#2851 Jodan77
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360 version.....




I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

Afrikanxl

Thats pretty bad.

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#2852 CStheGreat
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****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

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#2853 InsaneBasura
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360 version.....




I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

Afrikanxl

Haha, that looks pretty bad actually. The second one appears to be just after a cutscene or some such so I guess it's a bit forgivable that a building suddenly pops up. The first one on the other hand... It's like the game is telling the player "Don't drive on the sidewalk god dammit!" Hopefully it's not that frequent.

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#2854 Afrikanxl
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****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

CStheGreat

the person who made these says the tree thing happens every time.... its from GAF

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10944619&postcount=1614

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#2855 xTHExJUICEx
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Finals are next week, so Im not sure whether or not to hold off on getting GTA4 till then or just go ahead and get it now. Knowing how I am if I were to get it tuesday Ill probably quite studying all together. :(

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#2856 CStheGreat
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Well, the first one, why would you be driivng on the side anyways? I think people will quickly figure out the maps so it won't be that big of a deal but seriously, that is pretty bad. Hope it doesn't happen often. I'm in a pickle right now.
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#2857 3picuri3
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360 version.....




I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

Afrikanxl

just more FUD - that's a version running from the HDD of a modded 360.. read the post before spreading false info in here :P

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#2858 EVOLV3
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360 version.....


I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

Afrikanxl


IGN wrote:

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster

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#2859 konichiwa21
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I really wana know if you can go inside buildings and play the minigames - on the online multiplayer
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#2860 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

Afrikanxl

the person who made these says the tree thing happens every time.... its from GAF

In that case they better patch it, cause that **** is unforgivable. He says the game is running off of the HDD, but if anything that would make things load faster wouldn't it?

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#2861 Waffle_Fish
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I have never been a GTA fan, however after that 10/10 from IGN and now that I learned that the combat has been refined, its a must get for me.
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#2862 3picuri3
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those two pop-in videos are running from a modded 360 HDD - not proper from DVD. of course these cows didn't say that when they brought them in here :P
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#2863 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"][QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

InsaneBasura

the person who made these says the tree thing happens every time.... its from GAF

In that case they better patch it, cause that **** is unforgivable. He says the game is running off of the HDD, but if anything that would make things load faster wouldn't it?

again, it's running from the HDD on a modded 360 there is no way that's how bad it is running proper from DVD. the code would've been designed around DVD streaming, not accessing the rather slow 360 HDD.

if it was that bad there's no WAY this game would be getting 10s on the 360.

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#2864 user_nat
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"][QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

InsaneBasura

the person who made these says the tree thing happens every time.... its from GAF

In that case they better patch it, cause that **** is unforgivable. He says the game is running off of the HDD, but if anything that would make things load faster wouldn't it?

I would say not.. because the game would have been optimised for the DVD drive.

I havn't noticed any popins in any of the videos I have watched yet.

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#2865 Afrikanxl
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those two pop-in videos are running from a modded 360 HDD - not proper from DVD. of course these cows didn't say that when they brought them in here :P 3picuri3

well I linked to the post.....and it does say its running from the HDD.... I can't comment on how bad it will look running from the disc....I remember clips of Mass Effect having the same problems.... but those took much longer to load...and that was from a disc.....so I wouldn't be suprise if it was similar....

I'm no cow, but I do only own a PS3 and again I just hope it doesn't have that kind of popin......

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#2866 Coyo7e
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If the the critics that have had a chance to review the game already are correct, and the game is all that, MS made a legendary and brilliant move on behalf of their system by securing DLC.

When the first issue hits the differences in the game will be very far from superficial.

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#2867 MoldOnHold
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Afrikanxl
Wow, that's prettybad. :?
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#2868 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

MoldOnHold

Wow, that's prettybad. :?

running off the 360 hdd. modded. the 360 hdd interface is around usb speed and the game is designed to precache off of the dvd... it does not look like that based on all the videos we've seen of it online -- like the one in your sig, that was running off the 360 version :P do you see bad popup?

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#2869 user_nat
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Afrikanxl

Hmm.. do cars not take damage as easily anymore?

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#2870 Shinobishyguy
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It's a ghost tree
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#2871 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

user_nat

Hmm.. do cars not take damage as easily anymore?

they dont seem to based on the videos ive seen.....

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#2872 Pro_wrestler
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Gametrailers did an excelent job on the HD video review.
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#2873 Truth_Hurts_U
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Still getting the 360 version. The DLC will be on the HDD so less pop in for that.

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#2874 user_nat
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Still getting the 360 version. The DLC will be on the HDD so less pop in for that.

Truth_Hurts_U

I think the DLC would be using the same graphics engine.. which is on the disc, so the DLC should technically perform the same.

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#2875 Dante2710
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Gametrailers did an excelent job on the HD video review.Pro_wrestler
just finished watching it....makes me wish i could make time go faster >_>
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#2876 MoldOnHold
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

3picuri3

Wow, that's prettybad. :?

running off the 360 hdd. modded. the 360 hdd interface is around usb speed and the game is designed to precache off of the dvd... it does not look like that based on all the videos we've seen of it online -- like the one in your sig, that was running off the 360 version :P do you see bad popup?

Hah, that's good to hear. :D And I don't think I've seen a trace of pop-up in the sig clip.
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#2877 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"][QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

user_nat

the person who made these says the tree thing happens every time.... its from GAF

In that case they better patch it, cause that **** is unforgivable. He says the game is running off of the HDD, but if anything that would make things load faster wouldn't it?

I would say not.. because the game would have been optimised for the DVD drive.

I havn't noticed any popins in any of the videos I have watched yet.

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"][QUOTE="CStheGreat"]

****.

I hope that was just a little isolated incident. I'm strongly considering purchasing a PS3 right now.

3picuri3

the person who made these says the tree thing happens every time.... its from GAF

In that case they better patch it, cause that **** is unforgivable. He says the game is running off of the HDD, but if anything that would make things load faster wouldn't it?

again, it's running from the HDD on a modded 360 there is no way that's how bad it is running proper from DVD. the code would've been designed around DVD streaming, not accessing the rather slow 360 HDD.

if it was that bad there's no WAY this game would be getting 10s on the 360.

Yeah right. But a 5400rpm HDD still has a faster transfer rate than a 12xDVD.

Quick Google search says
DVD: 16MB/s
HDD: 60MB/s

So if anything things would load faster.

The guy just said he's running it on a devkit, so...
And then there's the Kotaku guy saying it's the same for the retail disc version. So...

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#2878 Afrikanxl
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those two pop-in videos are running from a modded 360 HDD - not proper from DVD. of course these cows didn't say that when they brought them in here :P 3picuri3

actually it turns out it is running from a Devkit..... he must work in the field..... other members know him... I doubt he would BS, because the MODS at GAF don't F'around....they confirm certain members for who they are...or else they ban them...

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#2879 AgentA-Mi6
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This is sad, Both Ps3 and 360 guys should be Happy right now the game is coming out for both systems.

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#2880 Coyo7e
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Still getting the 360 version. The DLC will be on the HDD so less pop in for that.

Truth_Hurts_U

When the DLC hits it will be like a huge bomb. Cow parts every place.

This is one game I am going to own both versions of. 360 DLC and MP. Ps3 my one friend who owns it (the black sheep, besides myself I guess but I own both) and the SP.

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#2881 Truth_Hurts_U
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I think the DLC would be using the same graphics engine.. which is on the disc, so the DLC should technically perform the same.

user_nat

Once the engine is loaded... There is no need to load it again. Some textures will be on the disk and some other things like radio stations. So if anything, it's going to be an improvement. Since part Disc will be used and part HDD.

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#2882 tonythestudent
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Still getting conflicting news, some people say that some sort of DLC will eventually lead its way to the PS3, is this true?
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#2883 InsaneBasura
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And suddenly the damage control was silenced...

Might have to be getting the PS3 version as well, cause the pop-in seems to be total ass. I thought critics were exaggerating as usual, but instead they appear to have understated the problem.

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#2884 ParadiddleFill
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And suddenly the damage control was silenced...

Might have to be getting the PS3 version as well, cause the pop-in seems to be total ass. I thought critics were exaggerating as usual, but instead they appear to have understated the problem.

InsaneBasura

na if the popins were that bad the game wouldent of been getting the reviews its been getting, and the reviewers would of mentioned how bad it was

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#2885 Truth_Hurts_U
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And suddenly the damage control was silenced...

Might have to be getting the PS3 version as well, cause the pop-in seems to be total ass. I thought critics were exaggerating as usual, but instead they appear to have understated the problem.

InsaneBasura

You shouldn't worry... I seen so much 360 gameplay over the past 3 days. I don't even have the urge to play GTA IV right now. :P

The pop in isn't that bad.

I seen the PS3 version played a few times. The only difference I seen is that the shadows are a little worse on PS3... But the cars on 360 seem more top heavy.

I practically have the first island memorized now. I regret it now... I'm a bad boy!

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#2886 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

360 version.....




I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

Jodan77

Thats pretty bad.

that's what happens when you don't standardize HDDs...
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#2887 user_nat
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Yeah right. But a 5400rpm HDD still has a faster transfer rate than a 12xDVD.

Quick Google search says
DVD: 16MB/s
HDD: 60MB/s

So if anything things would load faster.

The guy just said he's running it on a devkit, so...
And then there's the Kotaku guy saying it's the same for the retail disc version. So...

InsaneBasura

Someone else said in early in this thread that the 360 HDD isn't as fast as a usual hard disk due to its USB based connection (so that it can be removed easily). Donno how much difference that would make though.

edited for bad quoting.

edit: After further looking into things and neogaf posts.. I don't think the HDD would really make much difference, so its possilbe the the retail version will contain popins like them GIFs.

Atleast its not as bad as my old PC played Vice City, you could be driving around in that, and one minute you were driving around in a fully loaded place and then you would cross over into the land of no textures.. or buildings.. or more annoyingly, bridges.

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#2888 Dreams-Visions
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This is sad, Both Ps3 and 360 guys should be Happy right now the game is coming out for both systems.

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#2889 REforever101
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

360 version.....




I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

InsaneBasura

Haha, that looks pretty bad actually. The second one appears to be just after a cutscene or some such so I guess it's a bit forgivable that a building suddenly pops up. The first one on the other hand... It's like the game is telling the player "Don't drive on the sidewalk god dammit!" Hopefully it's not that frequent.

wasnt that click taken from a pirated version of the game burned onto a crappy disc?

possible explanation

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#2890 -Sniper99-
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I love how when the 360 gets the minor graphical edge it's all "lol t3h cell suxorss! We WINNN!!!11!1!" But now everyone's saying the cows are over reacting. Most places have said, thought slight, the PS3 edges over the 360 in this one. Just accept it and move on!
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#2891 tonythestudent
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wasnt that click taken from a pirated version of the game burned onto a crappy disc?

possible explanation

REforever101

No it was taken from a final build review copy playing off a Devkit harddrive

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#2892 tonythestudent
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

This is sad, Both Ps3 and 360 guys should be Happy right now the game is coming out for both systems.

Dreams-Visions

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People will never learn, like seriously

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#2893 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="REforever101"]

wasnt that click taken from a pirated version of the game burned onto a crappy disc?

possible explanation

tonythestudent

No it was taken from a final build review copy playing off a Devkit harddrive

proof?

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#2894 Afrikanxl
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

360 version.....




I really do hope the PS3 version does not come anywhere close to this much pop in...this is distracting as Fk...

REforever101

Haha, that looks pretty bad actually. The second one appears to be just after a cutscene or some such so I guess it's a bit forgivable that a building suddenly pops up. The first one on the other hand... It's like the game is telling the player "Don't drive on the sidewalk god dammit!" Hopefully it's not that frequent.

wasnt that click taken from a pirated version of the game burned onto a crappy disc?

possible explanation

no its not a pirated version.... he has a DevKit... I think he is a reviewer....check the Gaf link I posted earlier...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10945241&postcount=1709

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#2895 ParadiddleFill
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this is off a forum for all we know this guy does have a pirated version

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#2896 tonythestudent
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[QUOTE="tonythestudent"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

wasnt that click taken from a pirated version of the game burned onto a crappy disc?

possible explanation

ParadiddleFill

No it was taken from a final build review copy playing off a Devkit harddrive

proof?

Read the GAF forum, i ain't doing your leg work for you.

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#2897 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="tonythestudent"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

wasnt that click taken from a pirated version of the game burned onto a crappy disc?

possible explanation

tonythestudent

No it was taken from a final build review copy playing off a Devkit harddrive

proof?

Read the GAF forum, i ain't doing your leg work for you.

I Did read it and there is no proof that this guy wasent using a pirated version

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#2898 GunSmith1_basic
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the reviews that compare them say that the ps3 version still has pop in, but it is reduced. It probably isn't a very significant improvement or else they would have mentioned it (right?)
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#2899 LinKuei_warrior
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i couldnt really tell..but does it get bloody around the parts where you got shot/stabbed/hit at?i could see blood on the vehicles...nice
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#2900 tonythestudent
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I Did read it and there is no proof that this guy wasent using a pirated version

ParadiddleFill

Well he's a pretty solid poster with no allegiances to any console so take from it what you will. I don't care either way, but people need to give up on this **** cause it's getting ******* tiresome and the game aint even outtill Tuesday.