The hardest boss in Dark Souls (not including cheap, gimmicky ones) on normal

[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] why are seath and ceaseless discharge cheap and gimmicky?BrunoBRS

1. Seath: I hit the 'radiating crystal thing' and just whacked him till death. However, he would regenerate his HP if one does not shatter the radiating object before, and he's a pushover, at least on normal difficulty, once you've shattered the said object. That's gimmicky. Forcing the player to 'solve' the boss is gimmicky. 

2. Ceaseless Discharge: I went through the path that meets with another path (the one that leads to the black pyromancy robe set) and stood at the meeting (just in front of big rock/ block). The tip of his appendage lands just in front of it when he slams onto the ground. So in my case I just stood there hit it before he raised it back. Rinse and Repeat. 

Ornstein+Smough fight is what I call a fight that requires thought and reflexes.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Ravenshout"] 

1. Seath: I hit the 'radiating crystal thing' and just whacked him till death. However, he would regenerate his HP if one does not shatter the radiating object before, and he's a pushover, at least on normal difficulty, once you've shattered the said object. That's gimmicky. Forcing the player to 'solve' the boss is gimmicky. 

2. Ceaseless Discharge: I went through the path that meets with another path (the one that leads to the black pyromancy robe set) and stood at the meeting (just in front of big rock/ block). The tip of his appendage lands just in front of it when he slams onto the ground. So in my case I just stood there hit it before he raised it back. Rinse and Repeat. 

Ravenshout

Ornstein+Smough fight is what I call a fight that requires thought and reflexes.

[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] "having to put thought into it is gimmicky". you're pitiful, you know that?BrunoBRS

Ornstein+Smough fight is what I call a fight that requires thought and reflexes.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Ravenshout"] Shattering a crystal that will win you the battle is not a strategy. 

Ornstein+Smough fight is what I call a fight that requires thought and reflexes.

Ravenshout

I would say Orstein and Smough when I first started playing. Now, everything is easy since I figured out that rolling has invincibility frames. 

Never played the DLC, but Ornstein and Smough gave me the most grief my first time through. Them fellas or the 4 Kings.

Never played the DLC, but Ornstein and Smough gave me the most grief my first time through. Them fellas or the 4 Kings.

MLBknights58

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Never played the DLC, but Ornstein and Smough gave me the most grief my first time through. Them fellas or the 4 Kings.

Ravenshout

[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

Never played the DLC, but Ornstein and Smough gave me the most grief my first time through. Them fellas or the 4 Kings.

Ravenshout

I prefer to use finesse in my games, which I didn't have much success with during the Kings.  Just equipped some heavy armor and mashed the attack button to victory fairly easy after I got bored of dying.

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[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

Never played the DLC, but Ornstein and Smough gave me the most grief my first time through. Them fellas or the 4 Kings.

tagyhag

The boss that gave me the most trouble was that giant one in the fire pit... Bed of Chaos I think. But that was because it was in my first playthrough, I was facing them super early and had terrible gear. 

But the battle that give me most trouble of them all was those demons in the floor below the fortress, where you can baraly walk. Without the ring those fights are hell.

Other than that, fights are all about repetition and patience. 

Probably four kings if you don't kill them fast enough. Depends if you have help as well. Demon Souls has harder ones though.Mandingo101

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Ravenshout"] Shattering a crystal that will win you the battle is not a strategy. 

Ornstein+Smough fight is what I call a fight that requires thought and reflexes.

Ravenshout

Do you know what gimmicky means? :? 

Is this sytem wars related? :S

MrSpieleMaster

IT'S better on PS3

THERE!

[QUOTE="MrSpieleMaster"]

Is this sytem wars related? :S

MasterX666

IT'S better on PS3

THERE!

It's actually better on PC

Oh yeah,I should get back to DS,haven´t played it in almost a month now.Arach666

[QUOTE="MasterX666"]

[QUOTE="MrSpieleMaster"]

Is this sytem wars related? :S

seanmcloughlin

IT'S better on PS3

THERE!

It's actually better on PC

This means WAR!!!

[QUOTE="Lulekani"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The boss that took me the longest/ was most challenging was probably, Four Kings. It was a tough fight.

I don't really think any of the bosses in the game were cheap. even Priscilla was perfectly doable.  And they actually, for the most part, got easier as the game went on. I beat Nito with hardly breaking a sweat, I beat Seath on my second try (took a while to get to him though ebcause I kept dying on the way to him because my controller is screwy), I beat Capra Demon and Twin Gargoyles on my first try, I beat Bed of Chaos on my third try (more of a puzzle really) I beat Pinwheel on my first try.

The game is hugely misconcieved as being impossibly difficult. As long as you take things slow, be cautious and only take risks when you're certain they'll pay off, the game is far from impossible. If you play stupidly, sure, the game is uber tough, but I found it to be highly exaggerated, because it jsut forces you to take your time rather than rushing through.

That being said, Gwyn was also a pretty tough boss. But even then I got a pretty good strategy built around my character and he fel in... Six tries I think?

Ravenshout

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[QUOTE="MasterX666"]

IT'S better on PS3

THERE!

MasterX666

It's actually better on PC

This means WAR!!!

System Wars? :o

All the bosses are pretty neutral if you have a good stat/weapon set up. But giant ornstein was a bitch though.

Four Kings.  After the first playthrough, you have to be pumping out some serious DPS to put him down before he gangbangs yo @$$

Four Kings.  After the first playthrough, you have to be pumping out some serious DPS to put him down before he gangbangs yo @$$

Basinboy

Honestly for me it was the Gargoyles. Onrstein and Smough are tough, but I got through them just fine. 4 kings are the biggest pushovers ever. Shit is just run up and go buck wild. Would be a lot more interesting if you had to deal with all 4(probably would also be a nightmare in anything other than coop). Of the solo enemies? I guess Sif so far for me. He's kind of easy if you have pyro upgrades, but he's just so quick and and aggressive. Really fun fight. jg4xchamp

4 kings are easy but Sif is hard? :? Dafuq you smokin?

Sif was extremely easy for me. Though it depends when you fight him. 

ALSO people should know there is a Sif easter egg in the DLC and if you find it before fighting him it changes how he reacts to you when you fight him. It's really cool

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Honestly for me it was the Gargoyles. Onrstein and Smough are tough, but I got through them just fine. 4 kings are the biggest pushovers ever. Shit is just run up and go buck wild. Would be a lot more interesting if you had to deal with all 4(probably would also be a nightmare in anything other than coop). Of the solo enemies? I guess Sif so far for me. He's kind of easy if you have pyro upgrades, but he's just so quick and and aggressive. Really fun fight. seanmcloughlin

4 kings are easy but Sif is hard? :? Dafuq you smokin?

Sif was extremely easy for me. Though it depends when you fight him. 

ALSO people should know there is a Sif easter egg in the DLC and if you find it before fighting him it changes how he reacts to you when you fight him. It's really cool

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]Probably four kings if you don't kill them fast enough. Depends if you have help as well. Demon Souls has harder ones though.BPoole96

Worst boss fights in that game are definitely Pinwheel or Gywndolin. Gywndolin is just meh, and Pinwheel apparently I played too late.

jg4xchamp

Yeah you were pretty beefy against them then. I had to farm like a b!tch to bring up my endurance to carry heavier armor. havel's set FTW.

Also yeah Pinwheel is clearly the worst. You could beat him right at the start of the game. Gwyndolin is just annoying more than anything. That fvcking hallway.

gwyn is pretty lame but it makes sense for the story. Fallen warrior and all that

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Worst boss fights in that game are definitely Pinwheel or Gywndolin. Gywndolin is just meh, and Pinwheel apparently I played too late.

seanmcloughlin

Yeah you were pretty beefy against them then. I had to farm like a b!tch to bring up my endurance to carry heavier armor. havel's set FTW.

Also yeah Pinwheel is clearly the worst. You could beat him right at the start of the game. Gwyndolin is just annoying more than anything. That fvcking hallway.

gwyn is pretty lame but it makes sense for the story. Fallen warrior and all that

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Worst boss fights in that game are definitely Pinwheel or Gywndolin. Gywndolin is just meh, and Pinwheel apparently I played too late.

seanmcloughlin

Yeah you were pretty beefy against them then. I had to farm like a b!tch to bring up my endurance to carry heavier armor. havel's set FTW.

Also yeah Pinwheel is clearly the worst. You could beat him right at the start of the game. Gwyndolin is just annoying more than anything. That fvcking hallway.

gwyn is pretty lame but it makes sense for the story. Fallen warrior and all that

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Worst boss fights in that game are definitely Pinwheel or Gywndolin. Gywndolin is just meh, and Pinwheel apparently I played too late.

BrunoBRS

Yeah you were pretty beefy against them then. I had to farm like a b!tch to bring up my endurance to carry heavier armor. havel's set FTW.

Also yeah Pinwheel is clearly the worst. You could beat him right at the start of the game. Gwyndolin is just annoying more than anything. That fvcking hallway.

gwyn is pretty lame but it makes sense for the story. Fallen warrior and all that

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yeah you were pretty beefy against them then. I had to farm like a b!tch to bring up my endurance to carry heavier armor. havel's set FTW.

Also yeah Pinwheel is clearly the worst. You could beat him right at the start of the game. Gwyndolin is just annoying more than anything. That fvcking hallway.

gwyn is pretty lame but it makes sense for the story. Fallen warrior and all that

Ravenshout

(wow, they actually made a gif of it. that's convenient).

[QUOTE="Ravenshout"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i had some serious trouble going through the catacombs before sen's fortress (because SOMEONE told me that getting the rite of kindling earlier was a good idea). then i got to pinwheel and mowed it down in less than a minute.BrunoBRS

This pretty much sums up my reaction the 1st time i encountered it.

First time I played Dark Souls I went left instead of right, to fight the skeletons... I didn't know any better, so I kept going, and going. After too much hours I reached the closed passage that leads to Skeleton Lord guy. 

Well... it wasn't nice.  

Ornstein and Smough were a breeze for me. I had the most trouble with Queelag.

All I know is those damn Bell Gargoyles piss me off -.-

Manus and the Two Chimera fight if you go back to the beginning of the DLC after killing ManusBPoole96

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Manus and the Two Chimera fight if you go back to the beginning of the DLC after killing Manuskickass1337

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Mandingo101"]Probably four kings if you don't kill them fast enough. Depends if you have help as well. Demon Souls has harder ones though.Mandingo101

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Manus and the Two Chimera fight if you go back to the beginning of the DLC after killing Manuskickass1337

Yeah those nopedogs or we they're called are the toughest enemies in the games. Much worse than any boss really.themajormayor

Especially when you have to fight one as a Giant skeleton fires arrows at you and a Black Knight enters the battle too