The Health system of your choice! (poll)

Regen and health packs, bleh, this is why these games will never exceed CS, nothing at all is what its all about.MrGrimFandango

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="MrSlippery39"]

Offline I don't care, online I prefer the regen.

The game is much more fast-paced and exciting when you don't have to search for a health pack after every firefight. In team matches this is even more important because you can help your team push for the objective instead of trying to find a health pack so you don't die in one shot kinda thing.

thefsmlol

^^ UT and Quake are much more fast paced than any game out there and have health packs. If you're real good you won't really need health packs.

Timesplitters2 is the fastest and most frantic console shooter and it used health packs.

Offline I don't care, online I prefer the regen.

The game is much more fast-paced and exciting when you don't have to search for a health pack after every firefight. In team matches this is even more important because you can help your team push for the objective instead of trying to find a health pack so you don't die in one shot kinda thing.

^^ UT and Quake are much more fast paced than any game out there and have health packs. If you're real good you won't really need health packs.

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Another idea for health is what shadowrun does. 3 of the 4 races in that game can only regen health when standing near a tree of life. It's a magic, and to use it you must buy it, and the tree heals everyone, regardless of team/race. the last race can regen health by using essence (which you need for magic).

I don't think such a thing would work in any other fps though.

Both, but if i were only to have one...it depends: on how frequent the health packs would be or how fast would you regenerate :P Regeneration is more popular these days, most games(FPS especially) don't havelife bars.

Or...i prefer Prince of Pesia style imortalness :lol:

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Regen and health packs, bleh, this is why these games will never exceed CS, nothing at all is what its all about.ArisShadows

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]Regen and health packs, bleh, this is why these games will never exceed CS, nothing at all is what its all about.campzor

Either a medic system or not at all. Regeneration if the protagonist is of supernatural origin or is scientifically augmented, that's about as far as it gets.aliblabla2007

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"] Fun is what its all about.Cherokee_Jack

Call of Duty one, kind of more realistic to me.haris12121212

Some people say health regeneration is cheap but its not really. I mean in COD4 if you manage to hit someone but cant finish the kill its your fault and you deserve not to get the points.

Its all well balanced, its not like you regenerate instantyly and you do what yu would peobably do in a real battle, get out of the battle and tend to your wounds, sure it would take longer than 10 seconds to fix yourself up but then shooters on consoles are much more fast paced and run and gun so 10 seconds is a long time to have to keep dodging bullets.

I like in resistance 2 though how in co-op someone on your team has the job of keeping everyone alive. It works very well but sometimes it makes it too easy since that class is popular.

Some people say health regeneration is cheap but its not really. I mean in COD4 if you manage to hit someone but cant finish the kill its your fault and you deserve not to get the points.

Its all well balanced, its not like you regenerate instantyly and you do what yu would peobably do in a real battle, get out of the battle and tend to your wounds, sure it would take longer than 10 seconds to fix yourself up but then shooters on consoles are much more fast paced and run and gun so 10 seconds is a long time to have to keep dodging bullets.

I like in resistance 2 though how in co-op someone on your team has the job of keeping everyone alive. It works very well but sometimes it makes it too easy since that class is popular.

Halo 1's health system was the best and it actually made some sense. Your shields recharge over time, but your health doesnt unless you find a health pack.whocares4peace

A mix of both, like in Resistance:FOMbethwo

crysis system is probably the best imo

regen is o.k.

healhpacks are o.k. IF they are placed smart so you don't need to restart a whole **** level just beacose a guy shot you 2 times to many and you can't get past the next guy with only x% of health and ofcourse no **** health pack in sight.

stupid healthpacks produce the biggest amount of frustration in a game and makes it everything but fun

but MP should have a % based health with no regen and some sort of medic class

[QUOTE="bethwo"]A mix of both, like in Resistance:FOMTheOddQuantum

I like Resistance: FoM's quartered health system. So, a mix of both.Episode_Eve

I prefer a health pack system like FEAR where you sort of have to ration your packs, or a system like Crysis/ Halo: Combat Evolved where you have shields and then a regular health bar( well, in Crysis's case it regenerates extremely slowly)DivergeUnify

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="ArisShadows"] Fun is what its all about.Cherokee_Jack

Health regeneration is really awful. Yet another thing that makes me hate modern games even more.

Health packs aren't realistic, but hey - at least they make the game challenging. Regen makes the game so easy it's not even funny. Really, anything is better than health regen.

Health packs are only the second best system, the best system is the complex wound/damage system used in UnReal World:

And damn, this game was made in the 90's. Don't tell me you can't make something similar now! This is as good as health systems have ever gotten, and every game should use it. Or AT LEAST the system that was used in Deus Ex.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]I prefer a health pack system like FEAR where you sort of have to ration your packs, or a system like Crysis/ Halo: Combat Evolved where you have shields and then a regular health bar( well, in Crysis's case it regenerates extremely slowly)markop2003

Regenerative health gets on my nerves, you go suck your thumb somewhere for a while and you're in top shape.

Even though health packs are just as unrealistic, it's better than constantly healing your way through a fight. Maybe if they have something built into the game to explain it, for examples the regenerative nano tech in Crysis, but not when it is some world war 2 shooter.

Health regeneration is really awful. Yet another thing that makes me hate modern games even more.

Health packs aren't realistic, but hey - at least they make the game challenging. Regen makes the game so easy it's not even funny. Really, anything is better than health regen.

Health packs are only the second best system, the best system is the complex wound/damage system used in UnReal World:

And damn, this game was made in the 90's. Don't tell me you can't make something similar now! This is as good as health systems have ever gotten, and every game should use it. Or AT LEAST the system that was used in Deus Ex.

HenriH-42

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

Health regeneration is really awful. Yet another thing that makes me hate modern games even more.

Health packs aren't realistic, but hey - at least they make the game challenging. Regen makes the game so easy it's not even funny. Really, anything is better than health regen.

Health packs are only the second best system, the best system is the complex wound/damage system used in UnReal World:

And damn, this game was made in the 90's. Don't tell me you can't make something similar now! This is as good as health systems have ever gotten, and every game should use it. Or AT LEAST the system that was used in Deus Ex.

Toriko42

That is why it's a PC game. Some people like realism. Besides, it's a separate screen. During the gameplay there is only a small wound meter. You can die from a one lucky hit to the head. If you die, you have to start the game from the beginning. Unforgiving, but rewarding as hell. One of the finest games I've ever played.

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]Call of Duty one, kind of more realistic to me.Guybrush_3

Getting pumped full of bullets, running away, then coming back 10 seconds later fully recovered is realistic?

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]Call of Duty one, kind of more realistic to me.Guybrush_3

Getting pumped full of bullets, running away, then coming back 10 seconds later fully recovered is realistic?

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]Call of Duty one, kind of more realistic to me.SMR-Venom

Getting pumped full of bullets, running away, then coming back 10 seconds later fully recovered is realistic?

Play QuakeIII, and Unreal tournament. There isnt a whole lot of running around looking for health packs.

health packs are a figment of the past. real life war isnt entertaining, and we shouldnt try toabsolutelyemulate it in video games.ringuzi

Health regeneration is really awful. Yet another thing that makes me hate modern games even more.

Health packs aren't realistic, but hey - at least they make the game challenging. Regen makes the game so easy it's not even funny. Really, anything is better than health regen.

Health packs are only the second best system, the best system is the complex wound/damage system used in UnReal World:

And damn, this game was made in the 90's. Don't tell me you can't make something similar now! This is as good as health systems have ever gotten, and every game should use it. Or AT LEAST the system that was used in Deus Ex.

That is why it's a PC game. Some people like realism. Besides, it's a separate screen. During the gameplay there is only a small wound meter. You can die from a one lucky hit to the head. If you die, you have to start the game from the beginning. Unforgiving, but rewarding as hell. One of the finest games I've ever played.

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

That is why it's a PC game. Some people like realism. Besides, it's a separate screen. During the gameplay there is only a small wound meter. You can die from a one lucky hit to the head. If you die, you have to start the game from the beginning. Unforgiving, but rewarding as hell. One of the finest games I've ever played.

ArisShadows

That's fine. But it is to me. After many years of playing easy games, I like my games challenging and hard as hell. Unforgiving games make the game much more intense, and in the end, far more rewarding.

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health packs are a figment of the past. gaming has evolved and a game that doesnt have regeneration is like a game without vertical aiming or jumping/rolling. it is also fine to have a game where health pickups exist that would make you instantly recharge an amount of health, but regeneration needs to be present as well. it is also fine if some more tactical games have health recharge at a very slow health, but you need to be able to reach your initial health state eventually without the help of pickups. also no one should cite a realism argument against regeneration, because pickups arnt at all realistic either. real life war isnt entertaining, and we shouldnt try toabsolutelyemulate it in video games.ringuzi

Wrong sir not all games are fit for health regeneration. Project Origin comes to mind, the developers put in health regeneration and then quickly removed it because it spoiled the horror aspect of the game. Horror games aren't really that scary with health regeneration because you never get those balls to the wall moments when your low on health and you become extremely tense and jittery hopeing to find a health pack before then enemy finds you. It just adds to the tension.

[QUOTE="ringuzi"]health packs are a figment of the past. gaming has evolved and a game that doesnt have regeneration is like a game without vertical aiming or jumping/rolling. it is also fine to have a game where health pickups exist that would make you instantly recharge an amount of health, but regeneration needs to be present as well. it is also fine if some more tactical games have health recharge at a very slow health, but you need to be able to reach your initial health state eventually without the help of pickups. also no one should cite a realism argument against regeneration, because pickups arnt at all realistic either. real life war isnt entertaining, and we shouldnt try toabsolutelyemulate it in video games.DarkGamer007

Wrong sir not all games are fit for health regeneration. Project Origin comes to mind, the developers put in health regeneration and then quickly removed it because it spoiled the horror aspect of the game. Horror games aren't really that scary with health regeneration because you never get those balls to the wall moments when your low on health and you become extremely tense and jittery hopeing to find a health pack before then enemy finds you. It just adds to the tension.