The ign review of Forza 3 is ridiculous.

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#51 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2c2hdRDdHs&feature=related

gt5p destroys forza3 in realism, lightin, etc.... IGN was most likely paid off alot of money to say that.

maybe its a solid game dudes need to get real. Even though this game got sick ratings and I can probably get it for free imma skip, it F2 left a bad taste in my mouth.
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2c2hdRDdHs&feature=related

gt5p destroys forza3 in realism, lightin, etc.... IGN was most likely paid off alot of money to say that.

You can't play lighting and Forza 3 is realisic too. But what about game play? GT can't touch Forza in that.
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#53 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2c2hdRDdHs&feature=related

gt5p destroys forza3 in realism, lightin, etc.... IGN was most likely paid off alot of money to say that.

You can't play lighting and Forza 3 is realisic too. But what about game play? GT can't touch Forza in that.

and you know that how?
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#54 Furzjodler
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[QUOTE="Furzjodler"]

[QUOTE="MJ4040"]

I cant believe that they let this guy do the review with a closing argument of "good luck topping it" lol

Professional fanboy reviews are always an instant FAIL.

Look at what he said here... http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1033110p3.html

Read the closing argument, you seriously wont believe it!!!

GreyFoXX4

He's talking about racing simulators and not consoles, that doesn't make him a fanboy -.- Seriously do you honestly think a professional reviewer who has access to ALL consoles and pretty much every game is biased in a way? When you own all consoles you don't see exclusives being released to "destroy" the competition, you're just happy to find more good games to play. And in his oppinion Forza 3 set the bar in the racing simulator genre pretty high. Read the whole review, it sounds like a fantastic game.

He had to be talkiing about sims on consoles and not on pc aswell. If he was actually including pc aswell then it is locked that he is a xbox fanboy. And it does amaze me that after 4 years 360 games still get alot of negatives in their reviews but some how still pull a AAA rating. I mean come on he even states that textures on the courses would not load sometimes lol. How in the world can a huge title like fm3 from MS have a game that textures wouldn't load for the course, and it gets over looked and get a AAA score. He also states shadows dancing around your car, I mean really. Then top it off get a 9 for graphics lol.

If you really think graphics are that important, buy a highend gaming PC. But those graphic glitches are no big deal at all i'm sure, "textures not loading" i think he meant not loading instantly, so you see details pop in later or something like that. Even Uncharted 2 has that.

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#55 Furzjodler
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2c2hdRDdHs&feature=related

gt5p destroys forza3 in realism, lightin, etc.... IGN was most likely paid off alot of money to say that.

ZoomZoom2490

blablabla graphics blablabla its all idi... pardon, fanboys talk about.

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#56 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Furzjodler"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2c2hdRDdHs&feature=related

gt5p destroys forza3 in realism, lightin, etc.... IGN was most likely paid off alot of money to say that.

blablabla graphics blablabla its all idi... pardon, fanboys talk about.

whats wrong with good graphics:(?
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#57 kate_jones
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[QUOTE="MJ4040"]

I cant believe that they let this guy do the review with a closing argument of "good luck topping it" lol

Professional fanboy reviews are always an instant FAIL.

Look at what he said here... http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1033110p3.html

Read the closing argument, you seriously wont believe it!!!

gamer620

You do realize Hilary Goldstein ONLY reviews xbox games right? You do realize his comment "good luck topping it" is directed towards other 360 games right?

no ign has changed there setup, hillary is on the beyond podcast I'm listening to, talking about the psp games his reviewing

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#58 Next-Gen-Tec
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Wishing luck to Forza 3's competitor seems more like a PS3 fanboy statement... OMG I can flip every comment too.
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#59 Mr_Nordquist
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

[QUOTE="MJ4040"] Do you know the point of this thread??? Here you have this guy who has this obvious bias at the end of his article. Its just flat out wrong.MJ4040

Right, the guy says that Forza 3 is the best racer of this gen, and would you look at that it's the highest rated racer by IGN this gen! And then he follows up that statement by saying good luck to GT5.

He sure sounds biased.

He didnt actually mean "good luck"

Oh, well duh. Stupid me. Forgot to put on my fanboy goggles.

IGN is biased!!!!!!!!!!

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#60 Saturos3091
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You're interpreting it wrong. Putting fanboyism where there is none to start a flamewar isn't such a great idea.

He said it's the best racing game so far this generation. We, as informed gamers, know that GT5 is the competition to Forza 3, right? As a professional reviewer I'd think he'd know as well. So of course Polyphony has to beat it. He's not saying they won't, just saying it'll be hard to top such a great game.

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#61 Mr_Cumberdale
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I can't say that it's biased, but I found the scoring a little weird. 9.0 Sound The cars sound great, the crashes are okay, and the music is weak. Great + Okay + Weak = 9.0? Bad logic.
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#62 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2c2hdRDdHs&feature=related

gt5p destroys forza3 in realism, lightin, etc.... IGN was most likely paid off alot of money to say that.

You can't play lighting and Forza 3 is realisic too. But what about game play? GT can't touch Forza in that.

and you know that how?

Well, if you played GT5P or were at TGS (or have seen any videos at all) you would know, that's for sure. :P GT5P's environments are worse than FM3's. The cars have an edge in FM3 as well (GT5's cars are better than FM3's cars though). The physics and gameplay of GT5P are like a pretty game of bumper cars.
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#63 Darth_DuMas
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The question of whether Forza is better than Gran Turismo has been answered comprehensively – and now the question is what can Polyphony offer in response?

Toriko42

I was just thinking that now FM3 is about to be released, PD may analyse it inch by inch to possibly try and match or better everything in there.

Maybe they weren't far off releasing it, but then decided to hold back when they saw what FM3 had to offer.

Because, could you imagine if that was true and PD spent all that time developing a game which ended up being inferior or just matching the latest offering from Turn 10.

I personally think it would be kinda tragic if after all this time in development better graphics is the only advantage to GT5.

I think PD know they better have something far more advanced to show for the development time spent.

I'd imagine someone from Sony wanting answers if they don't better it, asking how another developer matched them in less than half the development time.

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On topic, I think he meant good luck in that he was blown anyway by the content, the features, the gameplay and the way it was put together and it would be a tough one to beat.

Anyway, it could be worse, he could have said "And a million tears are shed by PS3 fanboys".

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#64 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]I can't say that it's biased, but I found the scoring a little weird. 9.0 Sound The cars sound great, the crashes are okay, and the music is weak. Great + Okay + Weak = 9.0? Bad logic.

Well, you only hear the car during the races (unless you crash). The music is only for the menus so it matters a lot less.
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#65 nVidiaGaMer
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Like ign said its one of the best racing games ever made.

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#66 vaderhater
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Whaaaaaaaaaaa....t are you trying to say TC?:)

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#67 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="dreman999"] You can't play lighting and Forza 3 is realisic too. But what about game play? GT can't touch Forza in that.Saturos3091
and you know that how?

Well, if you played GT5P or were at TGS (or have seen any videos at all) you would know, that's for sure. :P GT5P's environments are worse than FM3's. The cars have an edge in FM3 as well (GT5's cars are better than FM3's cars though). The physics and gameplay of GT5P are like a pretty game of bumper cars.

I did play gt 5 p the cars handled great but that game came out 2 years ago. Also the physics engine is getting revamped from the ground up to allow for more dynamic driving. dont know what you mean by this "The cars have an edge in FM3 as well (GT5's cars are better than FM3's cars though). " what edge? I would make final judgements i mean the is still in devolpment while forza has gone gold already and is almost released.
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[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]I can't say that it's biased, but I found the scoring a little weird. 9.0 Sound The cars sound great, the crashes are okay, and the music is weak. Great + Okay + Weak = 9.0? Bad logic.

This is exactly what i'm talking about, content=/= score.
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#69 mgkennedy5
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Um, that actually does seem really bias. I mean, it's okay when he says "It will be tough for Gran Turismo to top this," but when he said "This is the best racing game of the gen" I kind of went "wwwhhhaaatttt?????" How could he possibly know?
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#70 Rza_rectah
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Um, that actually does seem really bias. I mean, it's okay when he says "It will be tough for Gran Turismo to top this," but when he said "This is the best racing game of the gen" I kind of went "wwwhhhaaatttt?????" How could he possibly know?mgkennedy5
Its his opinion and he probably played all the racing games this gen to know that.
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Deep and engrossing career mode? I doubt it.. unless they changed a lot from Forza 2.

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#72 mgkennedy5
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[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]Um, that actually does seem really bias. I mean, it's okay when he says "It will be tough for Gran Turismo to top this," but when he said "This is the best racing game of the gen" I kind of went "wwwhhhaaatttt?????" How could he possibly know?Rza_rectah
Its his opinion and he probably played all the racing games this gen to know that.

Gran Turismo doesn't come out until next year. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but he can't just assume
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#73 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="mgkennedy5"]Um, that actually does seem really bias. I mean, it's okay when he says "It will be tough for Gran Turismo to top this," but when he said "This is the best racing game of the gen" I kind of went "wwwhhhaaatttt?????" How could he possibly know?mgkennedy5
Its his opinion and he probably played all the racing games this gen to know that.

Gran Turismo doesn't come out until next year. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but he can't just assume

Of the gen he means so far its ignorant to cancel out other game for the rest of the gen.
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#74 Rza_rectah
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Deep and engrossing career mode? I doubt it.. unless they changed a lot from Forza 2.

MyopicCanadian
they prolly just renamed the series from the dumb snakenames in fm2.
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] I did play gt 5 p the cars handled great but that game came out 2 years ago. Also the physics engine is getting revamped from the ground up to allow for more dynamic driving. dont know what you mean by this "The cars have an edge in FM3 as well (GT5's cars are better than FM3's cars though). " what edge? I would make final judgements i mean the is still in devolpment while forza has gone gold already and is almost released.

Graphical edge. GT5's cars already look better than FM3's (which look better than GT5Ps). The environments don't though.
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#76 Saturos3091
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Um, that actually does seem really bias. I mean, it's okay when he says "It will be tough for Gran Turismo to top this," but when he said "This is the best racing game of the gen" I kind of went "wwwhhhaaatttt?????" How could he possibly know?mgkennedy5
What? He could've played all the racing games released so far this gen. Is it that hard to comprehend? :? GT5 isn't out yet so it can't be compared, hence why at the end he said "Good luck" to Polyphony since they'll have a hard time beating FM3.
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] I did play gt 5 p the cars handled great but that game came out 2 years ago. Also the physics engine is getting revamped from the ground up to allow for more dynamic driving. dont know what you mean by this "The cars have an edge in FM3 as well (GT5's cars are better than FM3's cars though). " what edge? I would make final judgements i mean the is still in devolpment while forza has gone gold already and is almost released.Saturos3091
Graphical edge. GT5's cars already look better than FM3's (which look better than GT5Ps). The environments don't though.

oh ok ill wait for gt 5 to compare because according to IGN forzas tracks arent too amazing either.
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I agree in that its an unprofessional thing to say, the good luck part comes of as really low-class. The game itself seems awesome, I just saw the QL on GB and I would get this if I had a 360. 9.4 sounds like the right score from what I've seen.

But the last part is what keeps us from taking games "journalism" seriously.

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#79 scarface_dm
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Face it Grand Turismo was the essential racing game and now it has been surpased by Forza, I applaud the developers in having achieved this!

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#80 Adrian_Cloud
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Face it Grand Turismo was the essential racing game and now it has been surpased by Forza, I applaud the developers in having achieved this!

scarface_dm
You realize IGN said its not as realistic as GT:|
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#81 Chris_Williams
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Yes, I'm really gonna take your oppinion over a professional reviewer who spent at least a hundred hours playing the game (which you just lost by the way) before he reviewed it. Trust me.

Longcat2
a professional reviewer?..a person who more than likely has different tastes and styles than you do..yeah,noooo
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Lems can claim ownage on the cows here......

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#83 mitu123
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LOL, this topic is still going on, IGN is bias, what more do you need to know? I don't even visit that site a lot anymore either as well.

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#84 scarface_dm
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LOL, this topic is still going on, IGN is bias, what more do you need to know? I don't even visit that site a lot anymore either as well.

mitu123

Says you :roll:

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#85 seabiscuit8686
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I cant believe that they let this guy do the review with a closing argument of "good luck topping it" lol

Professional fanboy reviews are always an instant FAIL.

Look at what he said here... http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1033110p3.html

Read the closing argument, you seriously wont believe it!!!

MJ4040
It's a she
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#86 MrSlippery39
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[QUOTE="MJ4040"]

I cant believe that they let this guy do the review with a closing argument of "good luck topping it" lol

Professional fanboy reviews are always an instant FAIL.

Look at what he said here... http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1033110p3.html

Read the closing argument, you seriously wont believe it!!!

fuchuzz

I completely agree with you, that review was awful, but hey, even reviewers are entitled to being fan boys.

The people who truly care about how somebody enjoyed a game thats not on their system are also fanboys.

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#87 RobbRipken
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You're complaining that he said good luck topping it? What about when gamespot said the only problem with MGS4 was that itscampaignended? What about when they gave GTA4 a 10? IMO, NO GAME should ever get 10. All of the fanboys (for all 3 systems)are such idiots. LOL at all of you!

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#88 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

LOL, this topic is still going on, IGN is bias, what more do you need to know? I don't even visit that site a lot anymore either as well.

scarface_dm

Says you :roll:

You should read their reviews and see their comparisons on graphics in games like GTA IV, LOL.
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#89 Zoso-8
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Ok...so Forza 3 is a good game, big surprise? I'm sure GT5 will be awesome too. What's the problem?
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#90 jessesalinas
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You haven't played the game he has. You have no right to state your opinion about the game.Chrome-
exactly...

i think its funny how fanboys question reviews when the game on a rival system they dont own.

and the lengths they go through to try and convince us that "the reviews are fixed" and IGN is payed off"" is just silly.

but when a game they like and thats on thier console gets AAA by the same reviewer they get happy and all of a sudden that reviewer is unbiased? lol

they are definately grasping for straws on this one.

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#91 Longcat2
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[QUOTE="Longcat2"]

Yes, I'm really gonna take your oppinion over a professional reviewer who spent at least a hundred hours playing the game (which you just lost by the way) before he reviewed it. Trust me.

Chris_Williams

a professional reviewer?..a person who more than likely has different tastes and styles than you do..yeah,noooo

Yeah ummm he reviews games for a living. It his profession. Therefore he is a professional reviewer. Is there any part you don't understand, cupcake?

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#92 Syferonik
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Ohhhh noozzz GT gave it 9.2 lol are they as rediculous? or are you rediculous? that the question. GS will probably give it a 9/10 so they gonna be as rediculous.
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#93 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Longcat2"]

Yes, I'm really gonna take your oppinion over a professional reviewer who spent at least a hundred hours playing the game (which you just lost by the way) before he reviewed it. Trust me.

Longcat2

a professional reviewer?..a person who more than likely has different tastes and styles than you do..yeah,noooo

Yeah ummm he reviews games for a living. It his profession. Therefore he is a professional reviewer. Is there any part you don't understand, cupcake?

The fact is every one is a critic, the only difference is hes getting paid. No ones opinion is more important than anyone elses.
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Longcat2"]

a professional reviewer?..a person who more than likely has different tastes and styles than you do..yeah,nooooChris_Williams

Yeah ummm he reviews games for a living. It his profession. Therefore he is a professional reviewer. Is there any part you don't understand, cupcake?

The fact is every one is a critic, the only difference is hes getting paid. No ones opinion is more important than anyone elses.

agreed, but thats not gonna fly in system wars lol, everyone's opinion must be FORCED on others here, you know that cloud :P
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#95 tm0054
Member since 2005 • 557 Posts
You forget one thing... By the time GT5 actually comes out we'll be comparing it to Forza 4 :). J/K of course... No doubt GT5 will get a AAA score too so why argue over which game is slightly better? Just be happy that both consoles are getting great racing games.
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#96 ThatsSimtastic
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MS went big this time. They paid off all the reviewers in the world, metacritic of 94. :P

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#97 MJ4040
Member since 2006 • 1110 Posts

Ok, before you lemmings start losing your mind, I think that forza 3 might be a great game!!! But that isnt the point.The reviewer's argument is obviously biased and ridiculous.

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#98 SolarEclipze
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Ok, before you lemmings start losing your mind, I think that forza 3 might be a great game!!! But that isnt the point.The reviewer's argument is obviously biased and ridiculous.

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so do you think gametrailers is biased and rediculous when they said "uncharted is the best looking game on the planet"??
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#99 psn8214
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IGN called out Gran Turismo? Who'd have thought...

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#100 Peiner09
Member since 2009 • 722 Posts

Seince reviewers are just more oppinions, then I guess the ps3 isn't REALLY having a good year right?