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#101 tormentos
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Takes 1 shot to kill people, they will have 4-5 ammo on each. its a shooter with limited ammo, no need to mask it. Resident evil had very limited ammo, still a friggin shooter/survival.

How do you even know each will carry 4 to 5 ammo on each.? From what i read ammo is mighty scarce dude... ""Speaking of scarce ammo, when the combat segment begins, Joel has a revolver with only four bullets in it. Over the course of combat, he is tasked with bringing down far more than four people. It's the classic survival horror situation. So how does Joel manage to bring down his foes? He uses whatever he can find, at one point strangling a man from behind (Joel managed to salvage only two bullets from the body) and at another scaring off a would-be attacker with an empty pistol. Yes, enemies react to having a gun pointed them, an impressive A.I. feature that's sure to add strategic depth to this wasteland world."" Read dude read.. He say that at one encounter he killed a guy strangling it from behind,and he got just 2 bullets,which is far from 4 to 5,but not only that he also say that at another situation he faced another enemy but this time faking with an empty gun and that AI enemies will respond to having a gun pointed at their face,you know the gun is empty the AI doesn't. But what i find the best about that quote is,that if enemies drop from 4 to 5 bullets like you claim,why did Joel had an empty gun..
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#102 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

didn't know alot of people here already played the last of us, we only seen 8 mins of actual gameplay, hell we haven't even seen the infected in gameplay "which is awesome for Naughty dog to keep that a secret" and its been proven by many game developers who got to play the demo behind closed doors that the E3 gameplay demo played very differently when they played it themselves "Hideo Kojima himself has said the game isn't scripted" so let the haters hate, if this was a 360 or a pc exclusive i'm sure the haters would be singing a different tune. Naughty dog has proven that they can make good games, its funny that haters say uncharted are movies but they admit they liked uncharted 2. funny.

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I have not bashed it but damn you Sony fanboys are the most insecure group I have ever seen. Also since you say no one should bash because they have not played it then the same goes no one should praise the game. It works both ways and if you say well it is Naughty Dog and they make good games but not everyone feels they do. Sony fanboys such as yourself only want to hear that every single PS3 exclusive will be the best game ever when not everyone agrees.

lol, why does everyone here think i'm a sony fanboy, I very much prefer the pc. Also this isn't a game from a unknown studio, its a game from a studio who has proven themselves and knows about videogames and has been doing this since some of you guys were even born. Don't call me a sony fanboy, i'm a Naughty dog fanboy, thank you very much.

Like I said not everyone thinks Naughty Dog games are the best ever. Also do not bring up scores or anything because WoW and CoD always score great but many think they are crap games. I do not but many do. It is just dumb to think the game is only able to be praised even though no one has played it and it should never be bashed because no one has played it. You are going off of the developers track record just like they are. BTW I do not have anything against the game it is just Sony fanboys are beyond ridiculous.
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="nervmeister"] It's a survival adventure game where guns/ammo are few and far between.

Takes 1 shot to kill people, they will have 4-5 ammo on each. its a shooter with limited ammo, no need to mask it. Resident evil had very limited ammo, still a friggin shooter/survival.

But the last of us has a partner dynamic... I don't think a RE game had that. :|

Am I suppose to care that much? about a partner? its like the dog in fable.... I didn't care then, I don't care now. you can only control him.
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#104 1oh1nine1
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The game isn't out yet, but I do believe, even with the E3 demo, that this game is getting waaaaay overhyped. I can see why the developers and the publishers and the bought and paid for gaming sites hype the thing, but I'm a little surprised at how much praise the gamers are heaping on this game. I can't remember the last time so much (practically) blind hype and praise was given to a new IP.

And why? Sure, it's pretty. So are PC games. It's cinematic. But that's a huge part of the downfall of gaming these days, or at least the downfall of gameplay. All I see is yet another zombie game (or whatever stands in for zombies this time) that's also a TPS with survival elements and a partner (this sounds familiar). This particular one stars old Nathan Drake and an Ellen Page caricature (Inception! Juno! Notice how cool we are!) that's actually named Ellie, of all things. It stole the setting from that awful Will Smith adaptation of I Am Legend and mixed it with the most basic, shallow premise of The Road. Sure, there's talk of some sort of impressive dynmaic AI, but really, in case everyone forgot, every game with enemies that you can shoot with a gun claims this.

Who knows, maybe it really will turn out to be the best game EVAR! But at this point, with all the BS that typically flies around as any AAA game gets hyped, I think some of you gamers are being a bit too loose with your hype and praise. You've become "easy". Yes, plenty of the hype is attributed to the system wars part of system wars, and the fact that this game is exclusive to PS3. But game companies, with their marketing, have managed to get you hook, line, and sinker. Maybe it's a sign of how stale things have gotten this gen, that the least bit of intrigue a game brings will just totally absorb everyone into the hype machine. I say wait and see. Be wise with your money. Don't trust the hype, make your own decisions. Don't do their job for them, you're a customer.

Oh, and I own a PS3, so this isn't jealousy.

Edit: Removed a couple incorrect statements after someone pointed them out, and a quick google. Rest of rant still stands.

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#105 tormentos
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Am I suppose to care that much? about a partner? its like the dog in fable.... I didn't care then, I don't care now. you can only control him.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07/e3-2012-the-17-minute-last-of-us-demo A movie that completely destroy all your crappy arguments. No 1 shot they are dead. No 4 to 5 bullets is a hidden shooter. No is not corridor movie shooter. And there are not mindless dumb zombies... Now get down from that hate bus..
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#106 tormentos
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The game isn't out yet, but I do believe, even with the E3 demo, that this game is getting waaaaay overhyped. I can see why the developers and the publishers and the bought and paid for gaming sites hype the thing, but I'm a little surprised at how much praise the gamers are heaping on this game. I can't remember the last time so much (practically) blind hype and praise was given to a new IP.

And why? Sure, it's pretty. So are PC games. It's cinematic. But that's a huge part of the downfall of gaming these days, or at least the downfall of gameplay. All I see is yet another zombie game (or whatever stands in for zombies this time) that's also a TPS with survival elements and a partner (this sounds familiar). This particular one stars old Nathan Drake and an Ellen Page caricature (Inception! Juno! Notice how cool we are!) that's actually named Ellie, of all things. It stole the setting from that awful Will Smith adaptation of I Am Legend and mixed it with the most basic, shallow premise of The Road. Sure, there's talk of some sort of impressive dynmaic AI, but really, in case everyone forgot, every game with enemies that you can shoot with a gun claims this.

Who knows, maybe it really will turn out to be the best game EVAR! But at this point, with all the BS that typically flies around as any "AAA" game gets hyped, I think some of you gamers are being a bit too loose with your hype and praise. You've become "easy". Yes, plenty of the hype is attributed to the system wars part of system wars, and the fact that this game is exclusive to PS3. But still. Have you noticed now that developers and game sites refer to their games as "AAA" games as part of the hype, way before the game is released and reviewed and even earns that AAA rating? It may not even be AAA in the end! But game companies, with their marketing, have managed to get you hook, line, and sinker. Maybe it's a sign of how stale things have gotten this gen, that the least bit of intrigue a game brings will just totally absorb everyone into the hype machine. I say wait and see. Be wise with your money. Don't trust the hype, make your own decisions. Don't do their job for them, you're a customer.

Oh, and I own a PS3, so this isn't jealousy.

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Read my post before this one basically 1 movie kill all your arguments,this game will be a zombie game when i start seeing zombies,because the enemies i have see as of yet,are not.. People should stop downplaying this game,the game camera is cinematic from there to be a movie is something different. This is the problem when you don't read or play games,uncharted characters were bullet spitting sponges that could take shot they were impossible to kill by the enemy,this girls is not a bullet sponge it gets hurt and die,and he is far from a bullet spitting characters like those on Uncharted. People are not reading and that is the problem,is like fanboys go alalalalalala this is another zombi,corridor,movie 3rd person Uncharted 3 my god.
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#107 Chris_Williams
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The game isn't out yet, but I do believe, even with the E3 demo, that this game is getting waaaaay overhyped. I can see why the developers and the publishers and the bought and paid for gaming sites hype the thing, but I'm a little surprised at how much praise the gamers are heaping on this game. I can't remember the last time so much (practically) blind hype and praise was given to a new IP.

And why? Sure, it's pretty. So are PC games. It's cinematic. But that's a huge part of the downfall of gaming these days, or at least the downfall of gameplay. All I see is yet another zombie game (or whatever stands in for zombies this time) that's also a TPS with survival elements and a partner (this sounds familiar). This particular one stars old Nathan Drake and an Ellen Page caricature (Inception! Juno! Notice how cool we are!) that's actually named Ellie, of all things. It stole the setting from that awful Will Smith adaptation of I Am Legend and mixed it with the most basic, shallow premise of The Road. Sure, there's talk of some sort of impressive dynmaic AI, but really, in case everyone forgot, every game with enemies that you can shoot with a gun claims this.

Who knows, maybe it really will turn out to be the best game EVAR! But at this point, with all the BS that typically flies around as any "AAA" game gets hyped, I think some of you gamers are being a bit too loose with your hype and praise. You've become "easy". Yes, plenty of the hype is attributed to the system wars part of system wars, and the fact that this game is exclusive to PS3. But still. Have you noticed now that developers and game sites refer to their games as "AAA" games as part of the hype, way before the game is released and reviewed and even earns that AAA rating? It may not even be AAA in the end! But game companies, with their marketing, have managed to get you hook, line, and sinker. Maybe it's a sign of how stale things have gotten this gen, that the least bit of intrigue a game brings will just totally absorb everyone into the hype machine. I say wait and see. Be wise with your money. Don't trust the hype, make your own decisions. Don't do their job for them, you're a customer.

Oh, and I own a PS3, so this isn't jealousy.

1oh1nine1

LOL, do you know why game journalists call it a AAA game? a AAA game is a game with a big budget "millions of dollars", they don't call it AAA because thats what they think it should get. Its called that because its a high budget title. System wars has took the term "AAA" and used it for games that scored very high

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Only the jelly are hating on it. Non ps3 owners. :cool:ispeakfact

Ahem. I'm a PS3 owner.

The hate for The Last of Us is justified. It's over-hyped. It's going to be just another painfully linear and scripted action/shooter like Uncharted.

The only people who are really excited for The Last of Us are blind fanboys who believe anything Naughty Dog releases today is gold.

I miss Naughty Dog's glory days when they made Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter.

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Only the jelly are hating on it. Non ps3 owners. :cool:ispeakfact
I own a PS3, and while I wouldn't use a word like "hate", I certainly look down on Last of Us when I have games like Day Z and other vastly superior survival games coming later this year or in 2013.
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#110 1oh1nine1
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LOL, do you know why game journalists call it a AAA game? a AAA game is a game with a big budget "millions of dollars", they don't call it AAA because thats what they think it should get. Its called that because its a high budget title. System wars has took the term "AAA" and used it for games that scored very high

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Thanks, fixed.

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#111 tormentos
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Only the jelly are hating on it. Non ps3 owners. :cool:GeoffZak

Ahem. I'm a PS3 owner.

The hate for The Last of Us is justified. It's over-hyped. It's going to be just another painfully linear and scripted action/shooter like Uncharted.

The only people who are really excited for The Last of Us are blind fanboys who believe anything Naughty Dog releases today is gold.

I miss Naughty Dog's glory days when they made Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter.

Like any other game your mean.? Can you give me an example of a non linear non scripted game in your mind.. It gets hate because is a PS3 exclusive,Playstation all start battle royal get also tons of hate,and hasn't been nearly as hyped as TLOU. Funny because no Jack and Daxter or Crash is as highly rated as Uncharted...So guess that missing the old days isn't that hard when they continue to deliver even better games,also you just quote basically what i consider to be 2 kids games.
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Read my post before this one basically 1 movie kill all your arguments,this game will be a zombie game when i start seeing zombies,because the enemies i have see as of yet,are not.. People should stop downplaying this game,the game camera is cinematic from there to be a movie is something different. This is the problem when you don't read or play games,uncharted characters were bullet spitting sponges that could take shot they were impossible to kill by the enemy,this girls is not a bullet sponge it gets hurt and die,and he is far from a bullet spitting characters like those on Uncharted. People are not reading and that is the problem,is like fanboys go alalalalalala this is another zombi,corridor,movie 3rd person Uncharted 3 my god.tormentos

I never said bullet-spitting anything, I said survival. Have you ever heard of Resident Evil? As for the zombie argument, I said zombies, or whatever stands in for them. We have a population of humans infected with something that makes them into mindless hungry murderous fiends, and you, as the player, have to either avoid them or kill them, because they'll kill you. You know, exactly the same role zombies play in anything else. Saying these aren't zombies is like saying the infected in 28 Days Later aren't zombies. Who the hell cares, they serve the same purpose. Perhaps you should do a little reading as well?

As for the girl, well, if she dies so easily then have fun playing your 10-hour escort mission.

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#113 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

LOL, do you know why game journalists call it a AAA game? a AAA game is a game with a big budget "millions of dollars", they don't call it AAA because thats what they think it should get. Its called that because its a high budget title. System wars has took the term "AAA" and used it for games that scored very high

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Thanks, fixed.

no prob man, i was confused as to what AAA meant a while ago too

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#114 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]Read my post before this one basically 1 movie kill all your arguments,this game will be a zombie game when i start seeing zombies,because the enemies i have see as of yet,are not.. People should stop downplaying this game,the game camera is cinematic from there to be a movie is something different. This is the problem when you don't read or play games,uncharted characters were bullet spitting sponges that could take shot they were impossible to kill by the enemy,this girls is not a bullet sponge it gets hurt and die,and he is far from a bullet spitting characters like those on Uncharted. People are not reading and that is the problem,is like fanboys go alalalalalala this is another zombi,corridor,movie 3rd person Uncharted 3 my god.1oh1nine1

I never said bullet-spitting anything, I said survival. Have you ever heard of Resident Evil? As for the zombie argument, I said zombies, or whatever stands in for them. We have a population of humans infected with something that makes them into mindless hungry murderous fiends, and you, as the player, have to either avoid them or kill them, because they'll kill you. You know, exactly the same role zombies play in anything else. Saying these aren't zombies is like saying the infected in 28 Days Later aren't zombies. Who the hell cares, they serve the same purpose. Perhaps you should do a little reading as well?

As for the girl, well, if she dies so easily then have fun playing your 10-hour escort mission.

You basically try to downplay the game piece by piece,saying games trying to be cinematic is was ruining gaming.? In what world in yours.? Lets see what you say.. ""It's cinematic. But that's a huge part of the downfall of gaming these days"" First ^^ do you have any proof of cinematic games ruining gaming other than your opinion which is echo by other 360 fans,who flamed Uncharted but lover Gears of war which is the same sh** a cinematic game,is just not a great looking as uncharted. ""All I see is yet another zombie game (or whatever stands in for zombies this time)"" The fact that you even dare to insert the word Zombie just prove my point,people will repeat any crap they hear about a game in order to downplay it without even knowing,the what ever stands in for zombie is just add to cover your a$$ once some one tell you is not a zombie game.. This are not tomorrow zombies if that is what you try to mean. ""that's also a TPS with survival elements and a partner (this sounds familiar). This particular one stars old Nathan Drake and an Ellen Page caricature (Inception! Juno! Notice how cool we are!)"" Tell me that here you just try to tag Ellie as another side kick ala Uncharted.? Very easy to see what you did. """It stole the setting from that awful Will Smith adaptation of I Am Legend and mixed it with the most basic, shallow premise of The Road.""" Yeah because Resident Evil 2 didn't have a setting like this before the Will Smith movie right.? Which was take from were Jorge Romero movies.? But we can say that from basically all games this gen,and many even last one,so Halo is just a shooter taken from the many movies about Alien vs humans movies,wait but wasn't Gears of war the same crap as well.? Hell wasn't more or less Uncharted took from Tomb Raider,Forza did not take for GT,and GT from other pass racing games or even real life.? All games take from something very few games are completely original very few. ""there's talk of some sort of impressive dynmaic AI, but really, in case everyone forgot, every game with enemies that you can shoot with a gun claims this."" Even the impressive AI you try to downplay,and without a single proof you compare it to other games that claim the same,basically ignoring what all journalist and even sites like Digital Foundry which is hardly a sony has say about the impressive AI.. Dude they are humans infected from a virus,unlike Zombies or 28 days latter zombie like but not zombies they do think,they do flank,they talk,they shot guns,ask for mercy when they know they are about to be kill,and to all the things other humans do,again which zombi does that,maybe you should go back to old zombi movies and see where it started,what they are and what they do and can't do. Take it this way all people on the series the walking dead is infected with,but until they are they are not zombies,i don't know if people once dead turn back in the TLOU but from what i am reading it doesn't show..
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[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Only the jelly are hating on it. Non ps3 owners. :cool:tormentos

Ahem. I'm a PS3 owner.

The hate for The Last of Us is justified. It's over-hyped. It's going to be just another painfully linear and scripted action/shooter like Uncharted.

The only people who are really excited for The Last of Us are blind fanboys who believe anything Naughty Dog releases today is gold.

I miss Naughty Dog's glory days when they made Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter.

Like any other game your mean.? Can you give me an example of a non linear non scripted game in your mind.. It gets hate because is a PS3 exclusive,Playstation all start battle royal get also tons of hate,and hasn't been nearly as hyped as TLOU. Funny because no Jack and Daxter or Crash is as highly rated as Uncharted...So guess that missing the old days isn't that hard when they continue to deliver even better games,also you just quote basically what i consider to be 2 kids games.

Awww yeaahhh folks, game critics' taste should be placed above ours, they clearly know what's better for us.

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#116 mitu123
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There are people that hate this game?

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#117 eboyishere
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There are people that hate this game?

mitu123

The only backlash I know is people are nervous about it since UC3 was kind of hit/miss

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

There are people that hate this game?

eboyishere

The only backlash I know is people are nervous about it since UC3 was kind of hit/miss

Yeah but I wouldn't rely on a UC game for reception seeing how this game could be anything!

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

There are people that hate this game?

mitu123

The only backlash I know is people are nervous about it since UC3 was kind of hit/miss

Yeah but I wouldn't rely on a UC game for reception seeing how this game could be anything!

I was thinking the same thing :P

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You basically try to downplay the game piece by piece,saying games trying to be cinematic is was ruining gaming.? In what world in yours.? Lets see what you say.. ""It's cinematic. But that's a huge part of the downfall of gaming these days"" First ^^ do you have any proof of cinematic games ruining gaming other than your opinion which is echo by other 360 fans,who flamed Uncharted but lover Gears of war which is the same sh** a cinematic game,is just not a great looking as uncharted. ""All I see is yet another zombie game (or whatever stands in for zombies this time)"" The fact that you even dare to insert the word Zombie just prove my point,people will repeat any crap they hear about a game in order to downplay it without even knowing,the what ever stands in for zombie is just add to cover your a$$ once some one tell you is not a zombie game.. This are not tomorrow zombies if that is what you try to mean. ""that's also a TPS with survival elements and a partner (this sounds familiar). This particular one stars old Nathan Drake and an Ellen Page caricature (Inception! Juno! Notice how cool we are!)"" Tell me that here you just try to tag Ellie as another side kick ala Uncharted.? Very easy to see what you did. """It stole the setting from that awful Will Smith adaptation of I Am Legend and mixed it with the most basic, shallow premise of The Road.""" Yeah because Resident Evil 2 didn't have a setting like this before the Will Smith movie right.? Which was take from were Jorge Romero movies.? But we can say that from basically all games this gen,and many even last one,so Halo is just a shooter taken from the many movies about Alien vs humans movies,wait but wasn't Gears of war the same crap as well.? Hell wasn't more or less Uncharted took from Tomb Raider,Forza did not take for GT,and GT from other pass racing games or even real life.? All games take from something very few games are completely original very few. ""there's talk of some sort of impressive dynmaic AI, but really, in case everyone forgot, every game with enemies that you can shoot with a gun claims this."" Even the impressive AI you try to downplay,and without a single proof you compare it to other games that claim the same,basically ignoring what all journalist and even sites like Digital Foundry which is hardly a sony has say about the impressive AI.. Dude they are humans infected from a virus,unlike Zombies or 28 days latter zombie like but not zombies they do think,they do flank,they talk,they shot guns,ask for mercy when they know they are about to be kill,and to all the things other humans do,again which zombi does that,maybe you should go back to old zombi movies and see where it started,what they are and what they do and can't do. Take it this way all people on the series the walking dead is infected with,but until they are they are not zombies,i don't know if people once dead turn back in the TLOU but from what i am reading it doesn't show..tormentos

You keep on focusing on my use of the word "zombie". Whatever they are, they fulfill a similar role. Did you know in the amazing book I Am Legend, the creatures are actual thinking reasoning talking vampires? It's still a lone hero and companion against a population of monsters. Who cares what they're called?

You are quick to point out all the other games and movies that borrow elements from each other. You're right, lots of games borrow from something else. So what's so impressive about this game if it borrows just like everything else? I'm just saying, there's nothing original or intriguing to me in the premise of this game.

Also, don't get your panties in a twist, I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just stating why I remain unimpressed by this game so far and surprised at how insanely hyped (and defensive, it seems) people are getting over it.

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#124 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

There are people that hate this game?

TheGuardian03

Well the melee combat worries me.

Why? Looks awesome to me, quicktime events are intense yo!

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#125 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

There are people that hate this game?

TheGuardian03

Well the melee combat worries me.

Also im a little interested in how much is "real" or scripted....I mean it was just recently released that bioshock infinite's demo from e3 2011 was HEAVY scripted gameplay...so im a little nervous about that too

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

The only backlash I know is people are nervous about it since UC3 was kind of hit/miss

eboyishere

Yeah but I wouldn't rely on a UC game for reception seeing how this game could be anything!

I was thinking the same thing :P

This already looks better than UC3...which wouldn't take much.>.>/jk

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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Am I suppose to care that much? about a partner? its like the dog in fable.... I didn't care then, I don't care now. you can only control him.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07/e3-2012-the-17-minute-last-of-us-demo A movie that completely destroy all your crappy arguments. No 1 shot they are dead. No 4 to 5 bullets is a hidden shooter. No is not corridor movie shooter. And there are not mindless dumb zombies... Now get down from that hate bus..

Facepalm that is the exact video I have been basing my friggin outlook on you numpty. Its 1-2 shot kill, even in that damn video. games like this barely EVER change the main baddies, unless you end up with armoured thugs that take a few more. you will probably get machine guns ect later on, don't pretend for a second taht you wont. Every enemy he kills drops gun/ammo, the guy only picks up one set. thats EXACTLY my point. not that you need ammo since the enemy A.I is so stupid you can 1 button kill people around a corner. .... teh hell? he walks down a street, then through a window, then through CORRIDORS. I never said they were mindless dumb zombies NOT ONCE.
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Is it hard to accept that alot of us like games that focus on gameplay, not being a linear movie tps zombie game? And just like uncharted most of its fame is on graphics/movie like. And Cows are using it as the saviour and idiotic "SONY DOMINATION" (dominating last place must be fun.) Cows... have so little the obsession with the handful of exclusives they receive is painful to watch.

That's the jelly talking. :cool:
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#130 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] Well the melee combat worries me.TheGuardian03

Why? Looks awesome to me, quicktime events are intense yo!

Looks like it could be repetetive like Uncharted 3 melee.

Imagine doing this over and over.

h

I hope they add more variety, if not, then lol.

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nothing i hate more than a bunch of overly scripted crap games
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I think the game looks really good

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nothing i hate more than a bunch of overly scripted crap games candyassgames
Indeed, why should I put a game on a pedestal that will essential be a 10 hour game that will forever collect dust, just because A) it has great graphics. B) It has movie qualities. Its not even hate, it looks like an AA game at most.
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Is it hard to accept that alot of us like games that focus on gameplay, not being a linear movie tps zombie game? And just like uncharted most of its fame is on graphics/movie like. And Cows are using it as the saviour and idiotic "SONY DOMINATION" (dominating last place must be fun.) Cows... have so little the obsession with the handful of exclusives they receive is painful to watch.

That's the jelly talking. :cool:
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[QUOTE="candyassgames"]nothing i hate more than a bunch of overly scripted crap games MBirdy88
Indeed, why should I put a game on a pedestal that will essential be a 10 hour game that will forever collect dust, just because A) it has great graphics. B) It has movie qualities. Its not even hate, it looks like an AA game at most.

dude you have been saying nothing but a load of c**p you don't know any thing about that game do you ?? you don't follow news or any thing about it ?! it already been proven for the 100 time that the game have dynamic ai and what we saw in e3 was not scripted read and stop saying BS http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477541 now say you are sorry
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and that's a one from GameSpot http://www.gamespot.com/special-feature/best-of-e3-2012-edit/image-gallery/index.html "That's no mean feat given that we got to see guys getting their faces remodeled with blunt objects, but the AI in The Last of Us is so good that--until you see the same demo played through a second time and realize that characters' actions aren't scripted--it's hard to believe that it's AI at all. Joel and Ellie reference their surroundings as they converse believably, enemies behave differently depending on the weapon you're carrying and whether or not they outnumber you, and Ellie is quick to assist you in the event that you run out of ammo and subsequently find yourself on the receiving end of a beating. We've yet to step into Joel's boots ourselves, but we can't wait to try them on for size when The Last of Us is released sometime next year." lol at the hate it get here it pretty much loved on every site including this site outside this lame forum
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Offcourse it is. Its getting popular and lots of attention. The typical hipsters must hate it to look cool on the internets... when it comes to lems, its on their nature so no surprise there

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="nervmeister"] It's a survival adventure game where guns/ammo are few and far between.OhSnapitz
Takes 1 shot to kill people, they will have 4-5 ammo on each. its a shooter with limited ammo, no need to mask it. Resident evil had very limited ammo, still a friggin shooter/survival.

But the last of us has a partner dynamic... I don't think a RE game had that. :|

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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Takes 1 shot to kill people, they will have 4-5 ammo on each. its a shooter with limited ammo, no need to mask it. Resident evil had very limited ammo, still a friggin shooter/survival.Mario2007

But the last of us has a partner dynamic... I don't think a RE game had that. :|

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I did not enjoy Resident Evil 0. I got off the train and stopped playing lol

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="candyassgames"]nothing i hate more than a bunch of overly scripted crap games shadiezz2012
Indeed, why should I put a game on a pedestal that will essential be a 10 hour game that will forever collect dust, just because A) it has great graphics. B) It has movie qualities. Its not even hate, it looks like an AA game at most.

dude you have been saying nothing but a load of c**p you don't know any thing about that game do you ?? you don't follow news or any thing about it ?! it already been proven for the 100 time that the game have dynamic ai and what we saw in e3 was not scripted read and stop saying BS http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477541 now say you are sorry

Dynamic A.I? its a friggin buzzword. whats complicated about it? they wander room for room. its like any other damn game. its the same as Deus Ex - Human Revolution as a recent example. they wander around after being triggered when you approach, you do some things to distract or harm them. The little girl attacks them when certain conditions are met. stop using pathetic media buzz words. How does dynamic a.i even make it last more than the 10 hour dust collector it will become?
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]and that's a one from GameSpot http://www.gamespot.com/special-feature/best-of-e3-2012-edit/image-gallery/index.html "That's no mean feat given that we got to see guys getting their faces remodeled with blunt objects, but the AI in The Last of Us is so good that--until you see the same demo played through a second time and realize that characters' actions aren't scripted--it's hard to believe that it's AI at all. Joel and Ellie reference their surroundings as they converse believably, enemies behave differently depending on the weapon you're carrying and whether or not they outnumber you, and Ellie is quick to assist you in the event that you run out of ammo and subsequently find yourself on the receiving end of a beating. We've yet to step into Joel's boots ourselves, but we can't wait to try them on for size when The Last of Us is released sometime next year." lol at the hate it get here it pretty much loved on every site including this site outside this lame forum

Whoa I totally have never seen any written paragraph similar to that by media previews before in my life :roll:
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Indeed, why should I put a game on a pedestal that will essential be a 10 hour game that will forever collect dust, just because A) it has great graphics. B) It has movie qualities. Its not even hate, it looks like an AA game at most.

dude you have been saying nothing but a load of c**p you don't know any thing about that game do you ?? you don't follow news or any thing about it ?! it already been proven for the 100 time that the game have dynamic ai and what we saw in e3 was not scripted read and stop saying BS http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477541 now say you are sorry

Dynamic A.I? its a friggin buzzword. whats complicated about it? they wander room for room. its like any other damn game. its the same as Deus Ex - Human Revolution as a recent example. they wander around after being triggered when you approach, you do some things to distract or harm them. The little girl attacks them when certain conditions are met. stop using pathetic media buzz words. How does dynamic a.i even make it last more than the 10 hour dust collector it will become?

so you have been proven wrong yet you still keep going with your BS don't spin it
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="shadiezz2012"] dude you have been saying nothing but a load of c**p you don't know any thing about that game do you ?? you don't follow news or any thing about it ?! it already been proven for the 100 time that the game have dynamic ai and what we saw in e3 was not scripted read and stop saying BS http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477541 now say you are sorry

Dynamic A.I? its a friggin buzzword. whats complicated about it? they wander room for room. its like any other damn game. its the same as Deus Ex - Human Revolution as a recent example. they wander around after being triggered when you approach, you do some things to distract or harm them. The little girl attacks them when certain conditions are met. stop using pathetic media buzz words. How does dynamic a.i even make it last more than the 10 hour dust collector it will become?

so you have been proven wrong yet you still keep going with your BS don't spin it

I have seen all the footage you have seen, I have read probably about half but still get the point. What exactly am I wrong in? there have been TONS of game previews that say "game doesnt feel like a game blah blah" all graphic and animation hype. NOTHING shown matchs anything that suggests this game is open and has "amazing A.i" ... show me where it is? OH RIGHT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GO BY.
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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]and that's a one from GameSpot http://www.gamespot.com/special-feature/best-of-e3-2012-edit/image-gallery/index.html "That's no mean feat given that we got to see guys getting their faces remodeled with blunt objects, but the AI in The Last of Us is so good that--until you see the same demo played through a second time and realize that characters' actions aren't scripted--it's hard to believe that it's AI at all. Joel and Ellie reference their surroundings as they converse believably, enemies behave differently depending on the weapon you're carrying and whether or not they outnumber you, and Ellie is quick to assist you in the event that you run out of ammo and subsequently find yourself on the receiving end of a beating. We've yet to step into Joel's boots ourselves, but we can't wait to try them on for size when The Last of Us is released sometime next year." lol at the hate it get here it pretty much loved on every site including this site outside this lame forumMBirdy88
Whoa I totally have never seen any written paragraph similar to that by media previews before in my life :roll:

WOW ... man every time i see your comment i lose a brain cell

so much stupid things in your comments

you said it's a linear game and it's not .. it's wide game it's allow you to explore

you said it's a shooter when you only play with like 4 or 5 bullets and if you miss .. you are dead meat

you said it's scripted and as i prove with links it's not

you said poor ai and again with links it proven that it's not all was dynamic ai

even the man who made by far the best AI in any game .. the man who made MGS4

hideo kojima

saw it and played it and said it's not scripted and all of it is AI

http://www.gamepodunk.com/_/industry-news/sony/e3-2012-hideo-kojima-confirms-the-last-of-us-demo-wasnt-scripted-r814

and one last thing

the mods from Neogaf went to E3 and saw the behind doors demo

and here what they said :

Originally Posted by Darknessbear: View Post

"Oh, here are some of my impressions from the other thread: One of the coolest moments in the demonstration for me was when Joel was in a shootout w/ this one guy and chased him outside. So it was a stand off between the two, Joel inside and the guy outside the window. Then all the sudden another dude runs in behind joel and grabs him (managed to get blind sided) and is trying to hold up Joel to the other guy (outside). The guy holding joel starts shouting, "Shoot him! Shoot him!" and the guy is nervously trying to get a shot shouting, "Hold him **** still!". All the while the player is trying to get out of the grab -- when he finally breaks it he reverses roles and holds the guy right when the his friend shoots, using him as a bullet shield. It was **** intense and looked incredibly cinematic, amazing that it wasnt an every time thing."

Originally Posted by EviLore: View Post

Got into the last screening (hi Arne!). Way more interesting than Uncharted. Has a more captivating tone, but the main thing that does it for me is the scarcity of resources and the hard decisions made there in terms of how to approach the combat. It also allows for bullets to be important and deadly, which is an important change from ak47 bullet sponge uncharted crap."

Originally Posted by m0dus: View Post "We had the privilege of seeing a closed door demonstration today. Honestly, they succeeded in hitting every beat, in terms of building that sense of tension and dread, and really making you pull for the characters. Seeing how differently the scenario played out depending upon your approach was a welcome shift from a lot of the other stuff on the show floor. From a technical standpoint, beautiful lighting and set pieces that established the setting from the get go and pulled you right in. It was honestly inspiring to see."

Originally Posted by KTallguy: View Post "I saw it. It was amazing. They made a really hard thing look so easy. The game is beautiful. I was especially impressed with Ellie and how she moved around and reacted. Also I was impressed with how many options they present you, and the way everything felt very organic. Honestly there isn't much new I can say, people have covered it. It was just a lot of wow."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477541

now shut the F up

and talk when you only have something to back you up

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[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Dynamic A.I? its a friggin buzzword. whats complicated about it? they wander room for room. its like any other damn game. its the same as Deus Ex - Human Revolution as a recent example. they wander around after being triggered when you approach, you do some things to distract or harm them. The little girl attacks them when certain conditions are met. stop using pathetic media buzz words. How does dynamic a.i even make it last more than the 10 hour dust collector it will become?MBirdy88
so you have been proven wrong yet you still keep going with your BS don't spin it

I have seen all the footage you have seen, I have read probably about half but still get the point. What exactly am I wrong in? there have been TONS of game previews that say "game doesnt feel like a game blah blah" all graphic and animation hype. NOTHING shown matchs anything that suggests this game is open and has "amazing A.i" ... show me where it is? OH RIGHT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GO BY.

again you have nothing to say or a prove to back you up

while i prove my self with links

and you didn't show one thing

go on with your hate on the game

good thing that this forum does not represent this site or any site for that matter

and you guys keep say that ps3 fans hype their games

like you don't with halo and gears

and what funny is that every time

psa3 exclusives end up with better reviews in total and win GOTY awards while nothing for xbox

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Amazing A.I is your typical enemies looking busy not knowing you are there? Amazing A.I is enemies hearing gunshots from a building they are right next to and for some reason take 2 minutes to actual enter the building to find out what is going on (Talk about a fixed trailer....) Amazing A.I is knowing there is someone killing your men, so this bad guy walks through the door at a normal pace without peaking around the corners to check for someone who is about to jump out and grab his gun? Amazing A.I is "holding fire" while the crazy good guy has a gun to your freinds head, yet this "good guy" starts shooting at you anyway. - he hides behind a sofa, then just pops his head out looking at you as if you wasn't going to shoot him? I don't know, I see the typical A.I we see in absolutely every standard game this generation. Watching the mechanics, watching the player behaviour in conjunction with the characters, all pretty much near IDENTICAL to Dues Ex. only, more elegantly done animation/sound wise. I'm hating the people hyping it to high heaven with only 1 proper friggin trailer (that is damn scripted to hell and back - before you jump on me, not A.I wise, but the way the trailer's maker plays through it... feels so convenient.) Show me something to get excited about and I will gladly accept it, until then its a just another uncharted style title from naughty dog that I will play once and throw on a shelf.
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Amazing A.I is your typical enemies looking busy not knowing you are there? Amazing A.I is enemies hearing gunshots from a building they are right next to and for some reason take 2 minutes to actual enter the building to find out what is going on (Talk about a fixed trailer....) Amazing A.I is knowing there is someone killing your men, so this bad guy walks through the door at a normal pace without peaking around the corners to check for someone who is about to jump out and grab his gun? Amazing A.I is "holding fire" while the crazy good guy has a gun to your freinds head, yet this "good guy" starts shooting at you anyway. - he hides behind a sofa, then just pops his head out looking at you as if you wasn't going to shoot him? I don't know, I see the typical A.I we see in absolutely every standard game this generation. Watching the mechanics, watching the player behaviour in conjunction with the characters, all pretty much near IDENTICAL to Dues Ex. only, more elegantly done animation/sound wise. I'm hating the people hyping it to high heaven with only 1 proper friggin trailer (that is damn scripted to hell and back - before you jump on me, not A.I wise, but the way the trailer's maker plays through it... feels so convenient.) Show me something to get excited about and I will gladly accept it, until then its a just another uncharted style title from naughty dog that I will play once and throw on a shelf.

why do i care to show you something more than i did ??? go read all the previews and you will know why and read this "Oh, here are some of my impressions from the other thread: One of the coolest moments in the demonstration for me was when Joel was in a shootout w/ this one guy and chased him outside. So it was a stand off between the two, Joel inside and the guy outside the window. Then all the sudden another dude runs in behind joel and grabs him (managed to get blind sided) and is trying to hold up Joel to the other guy (outside). The guy holding joel starts shouting, "Shoot him! Shoot him!" and the guy is nervously trying to get a shot shouting, "Hold him **** still!". All the while the player is trying to get out of the grab -- when he finally breaks it he reverses roles and holds the guy right when the his friend shoots, using him as a bullet shield. It was **** intense and looked incredibly cinematic, amazing that it wasnt an every time thing." that's pretty awesome right there you only hate the game because it's getting awesome feed back from every one i'm done you have nothing to back you up come back with links next time
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The game looks like a post- apolyptic uncharted to me. I don't see it as original or inspiring. Everything that I've seen does look like its been done before. I can say the same for Uncharted since the story was influenced from Indiana Jones and Tomb Raider and the gameplay was influenced from Gears of War (shooting) and Assassin's Creed (climbing). Both Uncharted and The Last of Us contains elements that have already been done, which does make it more easily forgettable. Don't get me wrong, I like Uncharted, but its not that original.

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Facepalm that is the exact video I have been basing my friggin outlook on you numpty. Its 1-2 shot kill, even in that damn video. games like this barely EVER change the main baddies, unless you end up with armoured thugs that take a few more. you will probably get machine guns ect later on, don't pretend for a second taht you wont. Every enemy he kills drops gun/ammo, the guy only picks up one set. thats EXACTLY my point. not that you need ammo since the enemy A.I is so stupid you can 1 button kill people around a corner. .... teh hell? he walks down a street, then through a window, then through CORRIDORS. I never said they were mindless dumb zombies NOT ONCE.

2 shots dude not counting the ones he miss,in fact in that sequence he actually ended out of bullets..lol Which completely destroy your argument. No i don't because i don't know the list of weapons the game will have,maybe you think that is a resident evil game,that you start with a pistol and work your way to the magnum...He actually start with a magnum like revolver.. How do you know each enemy drops ammo.? Have you play it because from the movie you can't get that period,in fact he ended out of bullets. Yeah the AI is so dumb,that he shot the dude behind the sofa,and the one that wasn't in his side wounded him,forcing it to take cover..lol Maybe you did not read the game you can't run an gun and that video make it very clear. Walk down the street there go's your corridor argument..
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#150 tormentos
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nothing i hate more than a bunch of overly scripted crap games candyassgames
Then you hate gaming,because you just describe all games basically.