The Legendary TimeLine *With Updates*

Bumpage for motorstorm flopping.s14joe

Well, we'll add to the let downs...for the other guys...

It's ugly and sticks out of my console...



The other system does this out of the box...



For some reason, you can't put the console in a small space...

 

TekkenMaster606

But it sure plays more and superior games than the PS3 ever will !!! 

Well, we'll add to the let downs...for the other guys...

It's ugly and sticks out of my console...



The other system does this out of the box...



For some reason, you can't put the console in a small space...


TekkenMaster606

Why couldn't you of just bumped the old thread?rpg9000owner

I think it got locked, no idea why. They should have left as a warning to the general public about underhanded and near illegal business practice.orangeonxbox

Why couldn't you of just bumped the old thread?rpg9000owner

But it sure plays more and superior games than the PS3 ever will !!!

turgore

that timeline looks very awful, but then again, if you compliled one for the 360 or wii, there would be some bad things. still, the ps3's had the most bad news, it seems.paullywog

It's like the dreamcast ,but without good games or exclusives.Sarge1442

 I liken the PS3 to the NEO GEO system...

[QUOTE="Sarge1442"]It's like the dreamcast ,but without good games or exclusives.DXGreat1_HGL

I liken the PS3 to the NEO GEO system...

If Microsoft's activities regarding their illegal monopoly of the OS market can't be used as "ownage" here I fail to see how some of the stuff there can. While we're at it, why do so many contradict each other?

 

For instance:

 

Jan 29, 2007 - Sony Corp. may report third-quarter profit fell 50 percent after its flagship PlayStation 3 lost market share to Nintendo's Wii.

Jan 30, 2007 - Sony blamed the launching costs of its PlayStation 3 game console for much of the 5 percent drop in group net profit for the last three months of 2006

 

"and why are some that are by any reasonable measure good news show up on there?"

Sony loseing money is good news to you?

 

Jan 29, 2007 - Sony calls on Ken to save PS3 (which is actually about the forming of Cellius to make PS3 exclusive titles)

yeh and we all know how well the ps3 is keeping its exclusives!

 

Also I fail to see how this for instance:

 

Jan 10, 2007 - Senior VP of Marketing Peter Dille: Every Sunday in the paper, there's a new deal with a free controller or a free game or $100 off all discounting the 360. I don't think you take those measures if you're selling as expected. (see Jan 13, 2007 entry)

 

is made any less true relevant by the January 13th entry...especially considering EB Games does similar promotionals for many systems such as Xbox->360 and DS->DS Lite.

you must have failed to read the other posts because one of them is a link where Sony says that M$ must be desperate to sell 360's buy having a promotion like that... then goes and does the exact same thing

 

October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge

 

How the **** is that bad news? Instead you could spend $70 for a 360 controller and rechargable battery pack or even more of batteries I suppose..

the point is that Sony batteries #### I'm surprised there not explodingRunningflame570

it seems you just go around threads reading posts and desperately try to bash lemmings and sheep why don't you try to find faults in the 100 other links about Sony?..... Oh wait that's because you can't! You /fail

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

[QUOTE="Sarge1442"]It's like the dreamcast ,but without good games or exclusives.Runningflame570

I liken the PS3 to the NEO GEO system...

 And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

Well, we'll add to the let downs...for the other guys...

It's ugly and sticks out of my console... (But does 802.11A video streaming which PS3/Wii does not)



The other system does this out of the box... (PS3 controller lacks rumble and out of the box has no HDMI/Headset, wii remote uses AA batteries also)



For some reason, you can't put the console in a small space... (You can't put any electronic devices in confined spaces unless you want to break them.)


TekkenMaster606

As many times as you regenerate this thread, it's funny that the cows still can't come up with anything plausible to contradict it....DXGreat1_HGL

What about these: the OP avoided including any good news (yes, there's a lot and important ones) and the fact that the PS3 already sold around 1/3 what the 360 sold worldwide. That's 9.86 million 360s, that's a year and half on the market, with 1 year alone without competition and AAAs games since launch; agains 3.07 millions PS3s, facing competition, only 5 months on the market and no exclusive AAAs on launch. Just imagine how it will sell when those exclusive AAAs come out. It leads to the assumption that, now that the 360 is sharing the market with other 2 consoles, it can't sell like it used to, and it didn't even sell all that fast if you consider those numbers. So there's a high, pretty high chance of it losing it's first place and proudly taking the third one.

*snip*Dead_Menn

Calling me names and accusing me of things doesn't get you anywhere in any legitimate debate over any issue, unless its politics..and this certainly isn't.

Also I do realize Bill Gates has "donated" more money than anybody else in the world, I also realize that roughly 95% of their foundation's endowment goes into investments, of which about half is in companies that promote the very problems they claim to want to solve. That 5% coincidentally enough is just about enough money to cover income taxes.

Most of the links are either taken out of context, by analysts, business as usual (you'll likely find it at any business), or utterly contradictory of other links. The list needs to be cleaned up tons before it can be a valid complaint about Sony's conduct which I will admitt has been far from admirable.

Last time I checked Microsoft was the one running a 3.4 billion dollar viral marketing campaign, not Sony. Sony just gets caught more often as the attention is more focused on them and while we're at it, yes I do have a job.

My deep rooted hate for Microsoft is multi-faceted. Their failure to adhere to basic computing standards, their inherently insecure operating systems, and their monopolistic and innovation destroying activities. In addition, their utter disregard for other software developers (they've been convicted of software piracy), their disturbing influence upon government, and their near-criminal (and in some cases criminal) activities towards open-source which is certainly better than anything they've ever done.

Thats not all the grievances I have towards them either. IBM of the seventies and eighties was better than they are and thats saying something.

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

DXGreat1_HGL

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

Runningflame570

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.  

I think Sony has an over 75% chance of ending up like Sega after this console war and Sega never screwed up like that. Sony are complete idiots over there and need to get their heads out of their a$$e$.BigB10123

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"] As many times as you regenerate this thread, it's funny that the cows still can't come up with anything plausible to contradict it....SambaLele

What about these: the OP avoided including any good news (yes, there's a lot and important ones) and the fact that the PS3 already sold around 1/3 what the 360 sold worldwide. That's 9.86 million 360s, that's a year and half on the market, with 1 year alone without competition and AAAs games since launch; agains 3.07 millions PS3s, facing competition, only 5 months on the market and no exclusive AAAs on launch. Just imagine how it will sell when those exclusive AAAs come out. It leads to the assumption that, now that the 360 is sharing the market with other 2 consoles, it can't sell like it used to, and it didn't even sell all that fast if you consider those numbers. So there's a high, pretty high chance of it losing it's first place and proudly taking the third one.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

Runningflame570

 Um, there was no follow up to the NEO GEO. It didn't sell enough to warrent one.

[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

TekkenMaster606

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.  

 The other thing that killed the system was the fact most games had unlimited continues. So if anyone bought the game for brand new, they could finish it in hours.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

DXGreat1_HGL

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.

The other thing that killed the system was the fact most games had unlimited continues. So if anyone bought the game for brand new, they could finish it in hours.

Which is why the Neo Geo is a bad comparison. In fact, I bet a lot of the sales of the Neo Geo were arcade operators that wanted to play games at home.  

Um, there was no follow up to the NEO GEO. It didn't sell enough to warrent one.

DXGreat1_HGL

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

TekkenMaster606

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.

The other thing that killed the system was the fact most games had unlimited continues. So if anyone bought the game for brand new, they could finish it in hours.

Which is why the Neo Geo is a bad comparison. In fact, I bet a lot of the sales of the Neo Geo were arcade operators that wanted to play games at home.  

 Actually, no it was SNK's intention to try to get a piece of the home console market. Over priced hardware and software prevented it. Just like Sony is over priced. But then again, at least NEO GEO had a few outstanding games

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

DXGreat1_HGL

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.

The other thing that killed the system was the fact most games had unlimited continues. So if anyone bought the game for brand new, they could finish it in hours.

Which is why the Neo Geo is a bad comparison. In fact, I bet a lot of the sales of the Neo Geo were arcade operators that wanted to play games at home.

Actually, no it was SNK's intention to try to get a piece of the home console market. Over priced hardware and software prevented it. Just like Sony is over priced. But then again, at least NEO GEO had a few outstanding games

Sure, a thousand 2D fighters and what else? Baseball Stars? The hardware of the Playstation 3 may be expensive, but the software is priced just like everyone else.

[QUOTE="Dead_Menn"]*snip*Runningflame570

Calling me names and accusing me of things doesn't get you anywhere in any legitimate debate over any issue, unless its politics..and this certainly isn't.

Also I do realize Bill Gates has "donated" more money than anybody else in the world, I also realize that roughly 95% of their foundation's endowment goes into investments, of which about half is in companies that promote the very problems they claim to want to solve. That 5% coincidentally enough is just about enough money to cover income taxes.

Most of the links are either taken out of context, by analysts, business as usual (you'll likely find it at any business), or utterly contradictory of other links. The list needs to be cleaned up tons before it can be a valid complaint about Sony's conduct which I will admitt has been far from admirable.

Last time I checked Microsoft was the one running a 3.4 billion dollar viral marketing campaign, not Sony. Sony just gets caught more often as the attention is more focused on them and while we're at it, yes I do have a job.

My deep rooted hate for Microsoft is multi-faceted. Their failure to adhere to basic computing standards, their inherently insecure operating systems, and their monopolistic and innovation destroying activities. In addition, their utter disregard for other software developers (they've been convicted of software piracy), their disturbing influence upon government, and their near-criminal (and in some cases criminal) activities towards open-source which is certainly better than anything they've ever done.

Thats not all the grievances I have towards them either. IBM of the seventies and eighties was better than they are and thats saying something.

"Calling me names and accusing me of things doesn't get you anywhere in any legitimate debate"

Oh but insulting ones grammar does? You seem like the kind of pompous persona I hate.

Do you believe someone has to have perfect grammar to participate in a discussion or let alone be intelligent?  

Wow you must type fast :lol: I find it hilarious that you would come to system wars to find a "legitimate debate". Do you even own a console? It seems that your passionate hate for Microsoft is some how fueling your need to post on this board.

I am aware that almost ALL companies are greedy DUH that's commen sense. There just trying to make money for the share holders.  

And Windows is a perfectly fine OS, also Microsoft's list of faults isn't that bad and Sony is much worse of a company and has horribly low standers (selling refurbished TV's as "new" anyone?).

So what is it like writing all that on a DOS or Linux computer? Or are you a Mac guy?

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

TekkenMaster606

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.

The other thing that killed the system was the fact most games had unlimited continues. So if anyone bought the game for brand new, they could finish it in hours.

Which is why the Neo Geo is a bad comparison. In fact, I bet a lot of the sales of the Neo Geo were arcade operators that wanted to play games at home.

Actually, no it was SNK's intention to try to get a piece of the home console market. Over priced hardware and software prevented it. Just like Sony is over priced. But then again, at least NEO GEO had a few outstanding games

Sure, a thousand 2D fighters and what else? Baseball Stars? The hardware of the Playstation 3 may be expensive, but the software is priced just like everyone else.

 Samurai Showdown - redefined one on one weapon fighting. Fatal Fury, Metal Slug, Baseball Stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_(console)#Home_cartridges 1 million units sold and they had better games then PS3 has now....

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

And failed in consumer sales due to high hardware and software prices.

DXGreat1_HGL

Let's not forget the fact that all of those Neo Geo games were available to play at your local arcade for a whole lot cheaper.

The other thing that killed the system was the fact most games had unlimited continues. So if anyone bought the game for brand new, they could finish it in hours.

Which is why the Neo Geo is a bad comparison. In fact, I bet a lot of the sales of the Neo Geo were arcade operators that wanted to play games at home.

Actually, no it was SNK's intention to try to get a piece of the home console market. Over priced hardware and software prevented it. Just like Sony is over priced. But then again, at least NEO GEO had a few outstanding games

Sure, a thousand 2D fighters and what else? Baseball Stars? The hardware of the Playstation 3 may be expensive, but the software is priced just like everyone else.

Samurai Showdown - redefined one on one weapon fighting. Fatal Fury, Metal Slug, Baseball Stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_(console)#Home_cartridges 1 million units sold and they had better games then PS3 has now....

That's all a matter of opinion.  

[QUOTE="Dead_Menn"] ... Thats a pretty long way of writing "I think the ps3 will sell the most". Do you actually believe M$ wont monopolize consoles like they did operating systems?Runningflame570

And Sony is any better? Seriously who is paying you?

Also I would like to see the link to bill gate's organizations only being self beneficial or I wont believe you!

And Sony is any better? Seriously who is paying you?

Also I would like to see the link to bill gate's organizations only being self beneficial or I wont believe you!

Dead_Menn

You also make it seem like I want Sony to monopolize the market, that I certainly don't and it looks like certain choices have made that entirely out of the question for them. However, I do want them to win based upon my objections towards Microsoft and my objections towards the direction Nintendo wants to take videogames.

As for the link: Dark cloud over good works of Gates Foundation

Read this too while you are at it: OVERVIEW

And this: Dissecting Microsoft