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#101 haols
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And Sony is any better? Seriously who is paying you?

Also I would like to see the link to bill gate's organizations only being self beneficial or I wont believe you!

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Yes Sony is better, their console is more expensive but they don't charge you to use P2P servers for online play and they don't charge the exorbitant prices for add-ons that Microsoft does..especially considering all the complaints some have leveled against the Xbox Live Headset for instance and that some such as the charge and play should have been included to begin with.

You also make it seem like I want Sony to monopolize the market, that I certainly don't and it looks like certain choices have made that entirely out of the question for them. However, I do want them to win based upon my objections towards Microsoft and my objections towards the direction Nintendo wants to take videogames.

As for the link: Dark cloud over good works of Gates Foundation

Read this too while you are at it: OVERVIEW

And this: Dissecting Microsoft

So you honestly think that PSN would be free even if they had a monopol on the market?? Are you paid or something? SONY would destroy the wallets of ever single gamer, casual and hardcore alike if they could monopolise. Every corporation would do that, why defend SONY?
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#102 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="haols"] So you honestly think that PSN would be free even if they had a monopol on the market?? Are you paid or something? SONY would destroy the wallets of ever single gamer, casual and hardcore alike if they could monopolise. Every corporation would do that, why defend SONY?

No, but I think PSN would be a better value for the money if they were to keep dedicated servers. Yes, I'm paid by Hastings Entertainment based in Amarillo, Texas. Any monopoly is harmful to gamers and that included the NES which had some of the worst tripe I've ever played and that includes Vivendi's Spyro offerings and Excalibur 2055AD. Hydlide was worse than anything else I've ever played. You seem to be missing my point as well, Microsoft HAS monopolized and I've seen the effects of that, after all..don't we all love expensive, insecure, barely customizable software? Myself, I sure as heck don't..thats why I'm on Firefox right now and why when I get my computer I"m going to be running Ubuntu or SUSE (haven't decided just yet). For the last bit, why defend Sony? Because they've garnered more criticism than they actually deserve though they certainly deserve a good and Microsoft has done absolutely nothing original with either software or hardware development. Anything they did Sega did first and in some cases, better. That and the fact they are actively promoting open-source software on PS3.
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#103 LucasDigital
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="haols"] So you honestly think that PSN would be free even if they had a monopol on the market?? Are you paid or something? SONY would destroy the wallets of ever single gamer, casual and hardcore alike if they could monopolise. Every corporation would do that, why defend SONY?

No, but I think PSN would be a better value for the money if they were to keep dedicated servers. Yes, I'm paid by Hastings Entertainment based in Amarillo, Texas. Any monopoly is harmful to gamers and that included the NES which had some of the worst tripe I've ever played and that includes Vivendi's Spyro offerings and Excalibur 2055AD. Hydlide was worse than anything else I've ever played. You seem to be missing my point as well, Microsoft HAS monopolized and I've seen the effects of that, after all..don't we all love expensive, insecure, barely customizable software? Myself, I sure as heck don't..thats why I'm on Firefox right now and why when I get my computer I"m going to be running Ubuntu or SUSE (haven't decided just yet). For the last bit, why defend Sony? Because they've garnered more criticism than they actually deserve though they certainly deserve a good and Microsoft has done absolutely nothing original with either software or hardware development. Anything they did Sega did first and in some cases, better. That and the fact they are actively promoting open-source software on PS3.

XBLA is worth it and there’s nothing wrong with windows! I’m using fire fox right now on an XP computer, all computer software is expensive COMMON its 500 bucks for macromedia flash. Sony does deserve all the criticism they are getting and they are in no way shape or form less greedy than M$ not only do they have awful quality control they LIE 70% of the time ... oh buy the way SUSE is awful
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#104 LucasDigital
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Oh and since you boycott Microsoft do u honestly not use anything they make? What about office?
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#105 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="LucasDigital"] XBLA is worth it and there’s nothing wrong with windows! I’m using fire fox right now on an XP computer, all computer software is expensive COMMON its 500 bucks for macromedia flash. Sony does deserve all the criticism they are getting and they are in no way shape or form less greedy than M$ not only do they have awful quality control they LIE 70% of the time ... oh buy the way SUSE is awful

Xbox Live Arcade has an equivalent on a Sony system and you don't need to pay $50 yearly for online play, leaving you enough to buy another game or subscribe to two magazines for a year. Flash is certainly expensive as well, but that is a professional grade content creation tool which so far as I know has no open-source equivalent (correct me if I'm wrong). Windows not only has open-source equivalents, it has BETTER open-source equivalents. Sony has better quality control this generation than Microsoft does while we're at it.
Oh and since you boycott Microsoft do u honestly not use anything they make? What about office?LucasDigital
Nope, not unless necessary (right now its necessary to use Windows, however I'm getting the first of the computer components I ordered today and so it shouldn't be too much longer until its no longer necessary. Regarding Office in particular, I use OpenOffice and before that I used Star Office (pretty much the same thing really). They are both more fully-featured that Microsoft Office and cost nothing and very little respectively.
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#106 LucasDigital
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="LucasDigital"] XBLA is worth it and there’s nothing wrong with windows! I’m using fire fox right now on an XP computer, all computer software is expensive COMMON its 500 bucks for macromedia flash. Sony does deserve all the criticism they are getting and they are in no way shape or form less greedy than M$ not only do they have awful quality control they LIE 70% of the time ... oh buy the way SUSE is awful

Xbox Live Arcade has an equivalent on a Sony system and you don't need to pay $50 yearly for online play, leaving you enough to buy another game or subscribe to two magazines for a year. Flash is certainly expensive as well, but that is a professional grade content creation tool which so far as I know has no open-source equivalent (correct me if I'm wrong). Windows not only has open-source equivalents, it has BETTER open-source equivalents. Sony has better quality control this generation than Microsoft does while we're at it.
Oh and since you boycott Microsoft do u honestly not use anything they make? What about office?LucasDigital
Nope, not unless necessary (right now its necessary to use Windows, however I'm getting the first of the computer components I ordered today and so it shouldn't be too much longer until its no longer necessary. Regarding Office in particular, I use OpenOffice and before that I used Star Office (pretty much the same thing really). They are both more fully-featured that Microsoft Office and cost nothing and very little respectively.

You cannot compare a closed source servers (XBL) to an open source servers (PSN) you obviously do not own a 360 or XBL and have a major bias to all things Microsoft or you would know that XBL was a top notch serves and worth the 4-5 bucks a month (common ppl pay 3x's that on MMORPG's) you might as well compare XBL to PC servers....... OH WAIT you have to pay for those too. Oh and just for the record XBL = the serves it’s self, XBLA= the DL games (at fair prices I might add SotN is only 10 bucks which is ¼ of the price of what the game would cost you on the PS1)
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#107 LucasDigital
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http://www.gohastings.com/Investor/careers.stm :lol: Seems like you probably have a lack luster job, no wonder you hate MS so much you probably have to sell Vista to ppl everyday. That or you’ve just gotten so use to trying to sell people a PS3’s you started to fall in love with Sony.
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#108 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="LucasDigital"] You cannot compare a closed source servers (XBL) to an open source servers (PSN) you obviously do not own a 360 or XBL and have a major bias to all things Microsoft or you would know that XBL was a top notch serves and worth the 4-5 bucks a month (common ppl pay 3x's that on MMORPG's) you might as well compare XBL to PC servers....... OH WAIT you have to pay for those too. Oh and just for the record XBL = the serves it’s self, XBLA= the DL games (at fair prices I might add SotN is only 10 bucks which is ¼ of the price of what the game would cost you on the PS1)

Why exactly can't I? Apache is open-source and it is often compared to IIS which is closed-source. XFire has everything Xbox Live does or close enough and its free last time I checked. For the record, I'm well aware of what XBLA is. [QUOTE="LucasDigital"]http://www.gohastings.com/Investor/careers.stm :lol: Seems like you probably have a lack luster job, no wonder you hate MS so much you probably have to sell Vista to ppl everyday. That or you’ve just gotten so use to trying to sell people a PS3’s you started to fall in love with Sony.

The pay is good enough for me at this point (certainly better than most larger retailers) and its a great work environment, if it paid a little bit better I might not mind working there indefinitely but I do want a pretty high standard of living and so it is a temp for me. Also I don't work at the Amarillo location. Pretty much I'm getting paid $3 less per hour than when I worked for DADS as an intern, but I prefer it to that job.
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#109 LucasDigital
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"XFire has everything Xbox Live does or close enough and its free last time I checked." Wow that’s tag worthy, you most likely do not have a 360 or you wouldn’t have avoided my question. I’m sorry that you have been so misinformed (have you even ever tried XBL?). Can xfire send pictures and voice Msg’s within seconds to every one on your friends list? How about video chat? Does it even support VoIP? Music downloads? High Def Movie and T.V. downloads? Free Trailers? Free Demos? Downloadable Games? Downloadable game content that can expand a game? The ability to flawlessly run a server without any lag? Does xfire have dedicated servers? Can xfire prevent hackers? Can xfire let you talk to 4 of your friends using a head set well playing Uno, Worms, or Poker? Xfire is a bare-bones program that cannot be compared to XBL (xfire doesn’t even let you run a server on most of the games it supports without paying a fee for that specific game). Don’t even get me started on you comparing Apache and IIS to XBL and PSN… do you even own a console???
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#110 LucasDigital
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[QUOTE="LucasDigital"]"XFire has everything Xbox Live does or close enough and its free last time I checked." Wow that’s tag worthy, you most likely do not have a 360 or you wouldn’t have avoided my question. I’m sorry that you have been so misinformed (have you even ever tried XBL?). Can xfire send pictures and voice Msg’s within seconds to everyone on your friends list? How about video chat? Does it even support VoIP? Music downloads? High Def Movie and T.V. downloads? Free Trailers? Free Demos? Downloadable Games? Downloadable game content that can expand a game? The ability to flawlessly run a server without any lag? Does xfire have dedicated servers? Can xfire prevent hackers? Can xfire let you talk to 4 of your friends using a head set well playing Uno, Worms, or Poker? Xfire is a bare-bones program that cannot be compared to XBL (xfire doesn’t even let you run a server on most of the games it supports without paying a fee for that specific game). Don’t even get me started on you comparing Apache and IIS to XBL and PSN… do you even own a console???

Seriously though how did you get a job posting for Sony?
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#111 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="LucasDigital"] Seriously though how did you get a job posting for Sony?

Will you come off that? I hate Microsoft, I don't get paid for that. If you'll admit there are some serious problems with the list then I will admit I was mistaken about XFire (although is does offer voice chat and a few of the other things you listed).
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#112 LucasDigital
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="LucasDigital"] Seriously though how did you get a job posting for Sony?

Will you come off that? I hate Microsoft, I don't get paid for that. If you'll admit there are some serious problems with the list then I will admit I was mistaken about XFire (although is does offer voice chat and a few of the other things you listed).

Pfffffft who use's Xfire for voice-chat? Ventrilo is much better. But neither can even compare to XBL! Anyway since you have a hate for Microsoft which will keep you from ever playing an Xbox console do you really have the right to judge? fanboys normally blindly hate on a company and refuse to try another console but there own. Now you’re calling people fanyboys (lemmings to be exact) when you yourself refuse to try the 360.... That sounds kind of hypocritical to me. Oh and the timeline is mostly fact and compared to the other leading console companies it is quite overwhelming.
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#113 LucasDigital
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[QUOTE="LucasDigital"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="LucasDigital"] Seriously though how did you get a job posting for Sony?

Will you come off that? I hate Microsoft, I don't get paid for that. If you'll admit there are some serious problems with the list then I will admit I was mistaken about XFire (although is does offer voice chat and a few of the other things you listed).

Pfffffft who use's Xfire for voice-chat? Ventrilo is much better. But neither can even compare to XBL! Anyway since you have a hate for Microsoft which will keep you from ever playing an Xbox console do you really have the right to judge? fanboys normally blindly hate on a company and refuse to try another console but there own. Now you’re calling people fanyboys (lemmings to be exact) when you yourself refuse to try the 360.... That sounds kind of hypocritical to me. Oh and the timeline is mostly fact and compared to the other leading console companies it is quite overwhelming.

Also the links you posted about bill gates don’t prove that only 5% of his organizations are non-self beneficial.
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#114 hamidious
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This should be stickied. I can't forgive the exploding laptops episode.
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#115 Farzan777
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