How big of a loss, do you believe that selling rare to Xbox is to Nintendo, especially with games such as Kameo, Perfect Dark, Conker and Banjo Kazooie being released on the Xbox and the 360?
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Havent Rare lost Rare if you know what i mean? I thought it wasnt really the same guys anymore.
Kameo looked much better when being designed for ninty but what did we get? boxing glove wearing cati???
With the exception of conker all rare games would've been better on nintendo consoles. As they're previous titles show.
Havent Rare lost Rare if you know what i mean? I thought it wasnt really the same guys anymore.
Kameo looked much better when being designed for ninty but what did we get? boxing glove wearing cati???
With the exception of conker all rare games would've been better on nintendo consoles. As they're previous titles show.
Nintega91
Yeah most of the team had left by the time of the sale... the IP's were the only real loss...
BTW: Love the Sig :lol:
Sure:roll:Havent Rare lost Rare if you know what i mean? I thought it wasnt really the same guys anymore.
Kameo looked much better when being designed for ninty but what did we get? boxing glove wearing cati???
With the exception of conker all rare games would've been better on nintendo consoles. As they're previous titles show.
Nintega91
Rare isn't as good as they used to be(reason Nintendo didn't care about them anymore should proov something) Nintendo didn't even make a bid at there most important 2nd party is proove in itself there not the same. the only thing nintendo lost is the rights to some of those games but it's not the same rare , how do i know this? i'm not running to buy there new games and i was a huge rare fan. one of my top 10 favorite games of all time Jet Force Gemini. Nintendo Instills a quality from it's devs and seems MS isn't worried about the gameplay Elements more than the Graphics elemts(just look how much Lemming care about GFX)so they need games with good Graphics so they can maintain that quality.
 There games are good not but they used to be Amazing ,near Perfect ,remarkable etc etc. Sure they can make a good game but there not worth all that money just to make good games, MS doesn't care they just want the name "Rare" makes people think there still the same etc etc.
The only really great game Rare has made since they were sold to Microsoft is Viva Pinata. I think that because Perfect Dark and Kameo were originally created with another console in mind that they didn't make full use of the 360. I also think that we'll see much better games from Rare in the future that were developed for the 360 from the ground up, such as Banjo.jbrittainI'm hopeing they Make Jet Force Gemmini 2 on 360 thats would be awsome.
Tell that to Halo 3. Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, Bungie's said it a billion times.Rare isn't as good as they used to be(reason Nintendo didn't care about them anymore should proov something) Nintendo didn't even make a bid at there most important 2nd party is proove in itself there not the same. the only thing nintendo lost is the rights to some of those games but it's not the same rare , how do i know this? i'm not running to buy there new games and i was a huge rare fan. one of my top 10 favorite games of all time Jet Force Gemini. Nintendo Instills a quality from it's devs and seems MS isn't worried about the gameplay Elements more than the Graphics elemts(just look how much Lemming care about GFX)so they need games with good Graphics so they can maintain that quality.
peacebringer
         Don't fool yourselves sheeple - Nintendo losing Rare at the time it happened is almost as big as MS losing Bungie right now !!! Okay not almost as big but still..;)SecretPoliceI think we can tell how much Nintendo really helped Rare by the quality of titles we see with a Nintendoless Rare...big difference...and yeah most of the guys who were around when Rare was with Nintendo are gone...not really the same company anymore!
         Don't fool yourselves sheeple - Nintendo losing Rare at the time it happened is almost as big as MS losing Bungie right now !!! Okay not almost as big but still..;)SecretPolice
if it did it would of shown by now and plus rare is making games for gba/ ds anyways so they havent loss rare
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[QUOTE="peacebringer"]Tell that to Halo 3. Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, Bungie's said it a billion times.there only saying that now cause it doesn't look as good. But what were they singing last gen? "Does PS2 have a game that looks this good" so no they just singing a differant song.Rare isn't as good as they used to be(reason Nintendo didn't care about them anymore should proov something) Nintendo didn't even make a bid at there most important 2nd party is proove in itself there not the same. the only thing nintendo lost is the rights to some of those games but it's not the same rare , how do i know this? i'm not running to buy there new games and i was a huge rare fan. one of my top 10 favorite games of all time Jet Force Gemini. Nintendo Instills a quality from it's devs and seems MS isn't worried about the gameplay Elements more than the Graphics elemts(just look how much Lemming care about GFX)so they need games with good Graphics so they can maintain that quality.
Ultimas_Blade
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Don't fool yourselves sheeple - Nintendo losing Rare at the time it happened is almost as big as MS losing Bungie right now !!! Okay not almost as big but still..;)wavebrid
if it did it would of shown by now and plus rare is making games for gba/ ds anyways so they havent loss rare
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  Oh plzzz - It has shown now more than ever ;) Tell me sheeple would not like to be both playing Rare games on Wii and looking forward to up coming Rare games on Wii - you have no cred with you're post... Yet I'm not surprised ;)[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]         Don't fool yourselves sheeple - Nintendo losing Rare at the time it happened is almost as big as MS losing Bungie right now !!! Okay not almost as big but still..;)SecretPolice
if it did it would of shown by now and plus rare is making games for gba/ ds anyways so they havent loss rare
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  Oh plzzz - It has shown now more than ever ;) Tell me sheeple would not like to be both playing Rare games on Wii and looking forward to up coming Rare games on Wii - you have no cred with you're post... Yet I'm not surprised ;)alright than how about prove it :|
someone cant even spell an animal creature name it sheep. and by no means im not one i am a gamer.
ds has rare games enough said :|
and you do :roll:
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Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.jrhawk42
:lol: please explain more beacuse it wasnt Nintendo fault rare took so long to make great games. and rare team leaving :|
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Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.jrhawk42LOL i'm sure it was Nintendo's fault that Rare wasn't making great games.....
Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.jrhawk42i dunno only people hyped to play Rare games are Lemming, what i mean is there not making Epic games to bring other new players in , like me i'm not eager to buy a 360 and i love rare to death but the Quality and polish isn't there. these are good games for current owner but do nothing to bring in new people(wich is important to the success of a console)a company like Epic that OMG got me so close to buying a 360 is way more important dev than Rare nowadays but back in the day Rare used to make games like Gears quality, seems now they just make "Pretty Good" games wih is differant from the amazing,Ambituous,Astounishing ,Perfect games they used to make. I'll give Rare 2 to 4 more years if they can't do anything by then i see MS letting them go.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Don't fool yourselves sheeple - Nintendo losing Rare at the time it happened is almost as big as MS losing Bungie right now !!! Okay not almost as big but still..;)wavebrid
if it did it would of shown by now and plus rare is making games for gba/ ds anyways so they havent loss rare
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  Oh plzzz - It has shown now more than ever ;) Tell me sheeple would not like to be both playing Rare games on Wii and looking forward to up coming Rare games on Wii - you have no cred with you're post... Yet I'm not surprised ;)alright than how about prove it :|
someone cant even spell an animal creature name it sheep. and by no means im not one i am a gamer.
ds has rare games enough said :|
and you do :roll:
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   Huh? lmao okay someone needs nap time ;)[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.wavebrid
:lol: please explain more beacuse it wasnt Nintendo fault rare took so long to make great games. and rare team leaving :|
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thats true every game rare made was delayed 4 to 6 months it was crazy but worth the wait. funny thing is MS must set a deadline and it's final cause there current games with 4 to 6 months more of development would be better don't ya think? thats why nintendo Delayed them they wanted better not just Good[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.peacebringer
:lol: please explain more beacuse it wasnt Nintendo fault rare took so long to make great games. and rare team leaving :|
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thats true every game rare made was delayed 4 to 6 months it was crazy but worth the wait. funny thing is MS must set a deadline and it's final cause there current games with 4 to 6 months more of development would be better don't ya think? thats why nintendo Delayed them they wanted better not just Good                I must say.... Kameo & PDZ > any game Wii has to this point - yes even the big Z ;) Just immagine if Zelda was made on 360 - now that would rule !! IMHO of course lol
[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]Tell that to Halo 3. Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, Bungie's said it a billion times.there only saying that now cause it doesn't look as good. But what were they singing last gen? "Does PS2 have a game that looks this good" so no they just singing a differant song.Rare isn't as good as they used to be(reason Nintendo didn't care about them anymore should proov something) Nintendo didn't even make a bid at there most important 2nd party is proove in itself there not the same. the only thing nintendo lost is the rights to some of those games but it's not the same rare , how do i know this? i'm not running to buy there new games and i was a huge rare fan. one of my top 10 favorite games of all time Jet Force Gemini. Nintendo Instills a quality from it's devs and seems MS isn't worried about the gameplay Elements more than the Graphics elemts(just look how much Lemming care about GFX)so they need games with good Graphics so they can maintain that quality.
peacebringer
[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.SecretPolice
:lol: please explain more beacuse it wasnt Nintendo fault rare took so long to make great games. and rare team leaving :|
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thats true every game rare made was delayed 4 to 6 months it was crazy but worth the wait. funny thing is MS must set a deadline and it's final cause there current games with 4 to 6 months more of development would be better don't ya think? thats why nintendo Delayed them they wanted better not just GoodI must say.... Kameo & PDZ > any game Wii has to this point - yes even the big Z ;) Just immagine if Zelda was made on 360 - now that would rule !! IMHO of course lol
Visually yes but Gameplay nooooooooo. Zelda and Paper Mario kill those games but people have differant tatse right?[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]Tell that to Halo 3. Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, Bungie's said it a billion times.there only saying that now cause it doesn't look as good. But what were they singing last gen? "Does PS2 have a game that looks this good" so no they just singing a differant song.Rare isn't as good as they used to be(reason Nintendo didn't care about them anymore should proov something) Nintendo didn't even make a bid at there most important 2nd party is proove in itself there not the same. the only thing nintendo lost is the rights to some of those games but it's not the same rare , how do i know this? i'm not running to buy there new games and i was a huge rare fan. one of my top 10 favorite games of all time Jet Force Gemini. Nintendo Instills a quality from it's devs and seems MS isn't worried about the gameplay Elements more than the Graphics elemts(just look how much Lemming care about GFX)so they need games with good Graphics so they can maintain that quality.
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Rare totally sucks now. After Conker's bad fur day, the quality of their games plummited. Perfect Dark Zero was the saddest excuse for a game that I have ever played and this is coming from someone who is a Perfect Dark fan. Unfortunately, I have not played Viva Pinata, though I hear it is good, I cannot comment on it until I have played it. organic_machine  Â
                   You are entitled to an opinion but GS and millions of others disagree !!  PDZ= AAA launch title ;)
[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]Tell that to Halo 3. Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics, Bungie's said it a billion times.there only saying that now cause it doesn't look as good. But what were they singing last gen? "Does PS2 have a game that looks this good" so no they just singing a differant song.Rare isn't as good as they used to be(reason Nintendo didn't care about them anymore should proov something) Nintendo didn't even make a bid at there most important 2nd party is proove in itself there not the same. the only thing nintendo lost is the rights to some of those games but it's not the same rare , how do i know this? i'm not running to buy there new games and i was a huge rare fan. one of my top 10 favorite games of all time Jet Force Gemini. Nintendo Instills a quality from it's devs and seems MS isn't worried about the gameplay Elements more than the Graphics elemts(just look how much Lemming care about GFX)so they need games with good Graphics so they can maintain that quality.
peacebringer
if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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 I agree and how a Wii owner at this point ( where are the games ) could say having Rare in the stables would not thrill them to death is beyond me.if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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[QUOTE="monkeymonfp"]Â I agree and how a Wii owner at this point ( where are the games ) could say having Rare in the stables would not thrill them to death is beyond me. Especially this peacebringer guy :|if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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Your right Viva Pinata would have been a great game for the Wii and would have done well unlike the 360 where the game failed.......Â
Nintendo was running Rare into the ground, and Rare fans were lucky MS picked it up since they really have a lassie fair approach when it comes to developers. It almost seemed like the buyout was too late to save Rare, but once the 360 was released Rare came out with 3 pretty good titles the first year leaving hope that the developer finally has gotten it's act together.jrhawk42Ummm....no, Nintendo had to sell Rare because all of there games released in 2000 sold terribly because of the PS2 launch. This caused alot of Nintendo's money lost because the games didn't sell well enough. So Nintendo sold them. After that many of the workers at Rare left the company, like the Stamper Brothers (they created most of the games), and others left to work on TimeSplitters.
if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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that im not sure of but i can assure you that cows will be like "kiddie game kiddie game on Nintendo looks thoguh grapchis there kiddie.
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Don't fool yourselves sheeple - Nintendo losing Rare at the time it happened is almost as big as MS losing Bungie right now !!! Okay not almost as big but still..;)SecretPolice
if it did it would of shown by now and plus rare is making games for gba/ ds anyways so they havent loss rare
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  Oh plzzz - It has shown now more than ever ;) Tell me sheeple would not like to be both playing Rare games on Wii and looking forward to up coming Rare games on Wii - you have no cred with you're post... Yet I'm not surprised ;)alright than how about prove it :|
someone cant even spell an animal creature name it sheep. and by no means im not one i am a gamer.
ds has rare games enough said :|
and you do :roll:
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   Huh? lmao okay someone needs nap time ;)Good job avoding all questions :| nice just show your you wrong good day
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  Â[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Rare totally sucks now. After Conker's bad fur day, the quality of their games plummited. Perfect Dark Zero was the saddest excuse for a game that I have ever played and this is coming from someone who is a Perfect Dark fan. Unfortunately, I have not played Viva Pinata, though I hear it is good, I cannot comment on it until I have played it. SecretPolice
                   You are entitled to an opinion but GS and millions of others disagree !!  PDZ= AAA launch title ;)
so wario ware is a aaa :|
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Â Â Â[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Rare totally sucks now. After Conker's bad fur day, the quality of their games plummited. Perfect Dark Zero was the saddest excuse for a game that I have ever played and this is coming from someone who is a Perfect Dark fan. Unfortunately, I have not played Viva Pinata, though I hear it is good, I cannot comment on it until I have played it. wavebrid
                   You are entitled to an opinion but GS and millions of others disagree !!  PDZ= AAA launch title ;)
so wario ware is a aaa :|
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    You have yet to nap I see - ;)  If you are not sleepy than maybe you are just a bit dense - no offence b/c I've seen this before.                 Okay look at the post again I was responding too - He said PDZ was the " saddest excuse for a game " - now did I say anything about Wario Ware being sad, poor, suck or even mention it at all ???  No I only stated a fact you should take notes ;)
                 Take those goggles and file them under " G " than come back and maybe we can talk ;)
  Â[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Rare totally sucks now. After Conker's bad fur day, the quality of their games plummited. Perfect Dark Zero was the saddest excuse for a game that I have ever played and this is coming from someone who is a Perfect Dark fan. Unfortunately, I have not played Viva Pinata, though I hear it is good, I cannot comment on it until I have played it. SecretPolice
                   You are entitled to an opinion but GS and millions of others disagree !!  PDZ= AAA launch title ;)
GS is one of the few that gave PDZ a higher rated review. A lot of other places gave it what it deserved. I think the best example of that is Game Informer. It deserved that 7 completely.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Â Â Â[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Rare totally sucks now. After Conker's bad fur day, the quality of their games plummited. Perfect Dark Zero was the saddest excuse for a game that I have ever played and this is coming from someone who is a Perfect Dark fan. Unfortunately, I have not played Viva Pinata, though I hear it is good, I cannot comment on it until I have played it. organic_machine
                   You are entitled to an opinion but GS and millions of others disagree !!  PDZ= AAA launch title ;)
GS is one of the few that gave PDZ a higher rated review. A lot of other places gave it what it deserved. I think the best example of that is Game Informer. It deserved that 7 completely.
  Hmm well maybe you're in the wrong forum? Anyway - many many people played this online and again it was avail. day one for 360 soooo.... just move on little doggy ;)PDZ is NOT a AAA game, GS screwed up because they were dazzled by the next gen. The game is not even AA.GunSmith1_basic Okay since you said it - that convinces me - we all hail to you now - LMAO - just get real or get out ! ;)
[QUOTE="monkeymonfp"]Â I agree and how a Wii owner at this point ( where are the games ) could say having Rare in the stables would not thrill them to death is beyond me. Yeah Nintendo fans would like Rare, just not the MS Rare. Nintendo played a larger role in the development of Rare games back in the day. Nintendo's working with Rare produced much better results then MS' Rare.if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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Rare makes some really great games. Probably the most varied kind of games you'll find on the 360. Unfortunately the 360 userbase doesn't seem to be into games like Viva Pinata or Banjo and Kazooie.
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PDZ is NOT a AAA game, GS screwed up because they were dazzled by the next gen. The game is not even AA.GunSmith1_basic
PDZ is over rated here at gamespot but that doesn't mean the game is worthless.
PDZ, Kameo, and Viva Pinata are three good games and Rare only seems to be getting better with each release.
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="monkeymonfp"] I agree and how a Wii owner at this point ( where are the games ) could say having Rare in the stables would not thrill them to death is beyond me. Yeah Nintendo fans would like Rare, just not the MS Rare. Nintendo played a larger role in the development of Rare games back in the day. Nintendo's working with Rare produced much better results then MS' Rare.    Wii fans are just too funny :) By the way Banjo 3 will be AAA IMHO and I know you would hate to have that on Wii ;)if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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Rare wasn't the same at the time of nintendo selling, and nintendo knew that. By the time nintendo sold rare, timesplitters in the ps2 had already been released by free radical with the making of staff and lead designers that had left rare.
 All the clues are there, including nintendo giving metroid to a new developing studio instead of its once best second party developer. Whoever thinks newcomer MS gave a blow to nintendo with that is mistaken. All they did was to buy a brand that would dillude itself with time, and nintendo knew this.
 Of the 5 games rare promised to be released on 5 years(xbox lifespan) most of them sucked and a few didn't make it in time. That goes to show the development house isn't the same, and most likely never will again.
[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="monkeymonfp"] I agree and how a Wii owner at this point ( where are the games ) could say having Rare in the stables would not thrill them to death is beyond me. Yeah Nintendo fans would like Rare, just not the MS Rare. Nintendo played a larger role in the development of Rare games back in the day. Nintendo's working with Rare produced much better results then MS' Rare.    Wii fans are just too funny :) By the way Banjo 3 will be AAA IMHO and I know you would hate to have that on Wii ;) i have a 360 :-) Anyway...it's not that i don't like Rare...or wouldn't love to see them on the Wii....I just think they've hit their prime...and am probably missing Nintendo's help...if rare released viva pinata for wii, weed have sheep bustin picachu's out of thier corn hole about how good that game is. same with conkers
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