The most ripped off FPS is...

PROJECT SNOWBLIND:

KZ2 looks exactly like it. Bioshock pretty much stole the whole plasmids/upgrade deal. Halo 3 took the whole items use, even down to the cover shield!

This game was revolutionary. Anyone who has played it knows I'm right.

Hardly.

The most ripped off FPS is Wolfenstein 3D. Running around in a 3D FPS with a gun shooting at Nazi soldiers? How many games this year alone feature that?

You know this to be true.

PROJECT SNOWBLIND:

KZ2 looks exactly like it. Bioshock pretty much stole the whole plasmids/upgrade deal. Halo 3 took the whole items use, even down to the cover shield!

This game was revolutionary. Anyone who has played it knows I'm right.

usmcjdk6

Hardly.

The most ripped off FPS is Wolfenstein 3D. Running around in a 3D FPS with a gun shooting at Nazi soldiers? How many games this year alone feature that?

You know this to be true.

subrosian

hehe, very true.

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

savetehhaloz

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

PROJECT SNOWBLIND:

KZ2 looks exactly like it. Bioshock pretty much stole the whole plasmids/upgrade deal. Halo 3 took the whole items use, even down to the cover shield!

This game was revolutionary. Anyone who has played it knows I'm right.

lt-rickhunter

*Scratches head.*

Apparently, you see something in his post that I don't.

[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

subrosian

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

no wonder im failing world history lol...

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

PROJECT SNOWBLIND:

KZ2 looks exactly like it. Bioshock pretty much stole the whole plasmids/upgrade deal. Halo 3 took the whole items use, even down to the cover shield!

This game was revolutionary. Anyone who has played it knows I'm right.

lt-rickhunter

Yes, we are all jealous of Killzone 2 :roll:

I wish I was Killzone 2 :(

[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

subrosian

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

AdobeArtist

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

heretrix

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

AdobeArtist

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

Ugh, I've noticed that ALOT here, it's just annoying.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

AdobeArtist

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

Good to see you back dude, I haven't seen you here in awhile..Just your sigs ;)

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

BambooBanger

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

Ugh, I've noticed that ALOT here, it's just annoying.

I remember this one truly ignorant poster in this thread from a year ago, who actually believed it was Sony that innovated shoulder buttons and analog sticks in controllers. He completely disregarded that this all came from Nintendo 1st with the SNES and N64. He tried to play semantics arguing that having TWO analog sticks, Where N64 had just one, and that having FOUR shoulder buttons, where SNES had just two, was an "innovation".

PROJECT SNOWBLIND:

KZ2 looks exactly like it. Bioshock pretty much stole the whole plasmids/upgrade deal. Halo 3 took the whole items use, even down to the cover shield!

This game was revolutionary. Anyone who has played it knows I'm right.

usmcjdk6

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

heretrix

Good to see you back dude, I haven't seen you here in awhile..Just your sigs ;)

Some people have that "your reputation preceeds you" about them. I have "your sigs preceed you" about me :lol: :lol:

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

AdobeArtist

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

They were made by the same people so it doesn't really matter.

..besides that the most copied game would be Willy Higinbotham's first video game in 1958. The idea copied by ALL games would be the use of a tv (and later a monitor). Willy created the first game which was a table tennis game sort of like pong (pong was later made on his idea totally copying it and selling it).

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

AdobeArtist

Good to see you back dude, I haven't seen you here in awhile..Just your sigs ;)

Some people have that "your reputation preceeds you" about them. I have "your sigs preceed you" about me :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

AdobeArtist

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

Ugh, I've noticed that ALOT here, it's just annoying.

I remember this one truly ignorant poster in this thread from a year ago, who actually believed it was Sony that innovated shoulder buttons and analog sticks in controllers. He completely disregarded that this all came from Nintendo 1st with the SNES and N64. He tried to play semantics arguing that having TWO analog sticks, Where N64 had just one, and that having FOUR shoulder buttons, where SNES had just two, was an "innovation".

Probably the same moron who was convinced that the Playstation PIONEERED the use of CD's.

goldeneye / pefect dark 64 weren't ripped off, but they revolutionised first person shooters

more so than Half-Life IMO

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

t3hTwinky

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

heretrix

Good to see you back dude, I haven't seen you here in awhile..Just your sigs ;)

Some people have that "your reputation preceeds you" about them. I have "your sigs preceed you" about me :lol: :lol:

I'm enjoying your sig too, Heretix :lol::lol:

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

AdobeArtist

I remember some guy named CherryShooter saying that he started gaming with Halo because "there were no good games before Halo." Someone sig'd it, it's a funny quote.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

BambooBanger

Ugh, I've noticed that ALOT here, it's just annoying.

I remember this one truly ignorant poster in this thread from a year ago, who actually believed it was Sony that innovated shoulder buttons and analog sticks in controllers. He completely disregarded that this all came from Nintendo 1st with the SNES and N64. He tried to play semantics arguing that having TWO analog sticks, Where N64 had just one, and that having FOUR shoulder buttons, where SNES had just two, was an "innovation".

Probably the same moron who was convinced that the Playstation PIONEERED the use of CD's.

lol, for got about that one too. Give thanks to Genesis or TurboGrafx16 (in peripheral form) and 3DO (in primary media built-in form) for that one :)

That line which is so prevailant "If it wasn't for Sony, we'd still be playing on cartridges today" is such narrow sighted ignorance.

You idiots missed the entire point of the thread.

Sure Project Snowblind built upon these combat systems - but what it didn't do was blatantly rip them off.

Unlike Halo 3, Killzone 2 and Bioshock.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

lol, I've seen some people here who think gaming started with PS1 :lol:

WeAreToast

I remember some guy named CherryShooter saying that he started gaming with Halo because "there were no good games before Halo." Someone sig'd it, it's a funny quote.

*rubbing temples*

You can get a pretty good idea of just how young and inexperienced that kid is.

You idiots missed the entire point of the thread.

Sure Project Snowblind built upon these combat systems - but what it didn't do was blatantly rip them off.

Unlike Halo 3, Killzone 2 and Bioshock.

usmcjdk6

Given how you completely failed to grasp the lessons from the majority of the replies, you are the LAST person that should be labelling any one else an idiot. Move out of your glass house. Oh and change your sig "I PWN", which you have no right to claim.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

You idiots missed the entire point of the thread.

Sure Project Snowblind built upon these combat systems - but what it didn't do was blatantly rip them off.

Unlike Halo 3, Killzone 2 and Bioshock.

AdobeArtist

Given how you completely failed to grasp the lessons from the majority of the replies, you are the LAST person that should be labelling any one else an idiot. Move out of your glass house. Oh and change your sig "I PWN", which you have no right to claim.

:lol:

I still have yet to see a post describing how Snowblind ripped off any of it's predecessors.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

PROJECT SNOWBLIND:

KZ2 looks exactly like it. Bioshock pretty much stole the whole plasmids/upgrade deal. Halo 3 took the whole items use, even down to the cover shield!

This game was revolutionary. Anyone who has played it knows I'm right.

PBSnipes

Try rereading this.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

You idiots missed the entire point of the thread.

Sure Project Snowblind built upon these combat systems - but what it didn't do was blatantly rip them off.

Unlike Halo 3, Killzone 2 and Bioshock.

usmcjdk6

Given how you completely failed to grasp the lessons from the majority of the replies, you are the LAST person that should be labelling any one else an idiot. Move out of your glass house. Oh and change your sig "I PWN", which you have no right to claim.

:lol:

I still have yet to see a post describing how Snowblind ripped off any of it's predecessors.

You do realize Project Snowblind is the quasi-sequel to Deus Ex: Invisible War (I believe Snowblind used to be called Deus Ex: Clan Wars). Of course Deus Ex: Invisible War was the sequel to Deus Ex, which heavily borrowed from System Shock 2, which is obviously the sequel to System Shock. You're 4 games too late.PBsnipes

Guess you "conveniently" missed this one :lol: :lol:

Some friendly advice, quite while you're ahead, which by now isn't ahead by all that much, so the sooner the better.

[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

AdobeArtist

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

I'm talking about gameplay.

There is more in common between modern FPS and Half-Life than there is between Doom and modern FPS.

But I thought Halo:CE was the first fps....?Blommen

It was the first game ever to feature 3D graphics.

HONEST.

Hardly.

The most ripped off FPS is Wolfenstein 3D. Running around in a 3D FPS with a gun shooting at Nazi soldiers? How many games this year alone feature that?

You know this to be true.

subrosian

What about Doom? Running around places with varying heights and puzzles shooting guns at aliens? How many games have done that as well?

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

t3hTwinky

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

I'm talking about gameplay.

There is more in common between modern FPS and Half-Life than there is between Doom and modern FPS.

What gameplay mechanics specifically did HalfLife have, that's not found in Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, or any of it's other predecessors?

That's funny. The whole A came before B, thus C is a copy of A and B is irrelevant argument. DOOM has a chainsaw so GEOW copied it ZOMG!

Because we all know that they are the same game. I am sitting here with a copy of DE:IW and DE GOTY edition, and Project Snowblind on my desk. They are NOWHERE NEAR the same game. bhe Biomods =/= the augmentations & items. Completely different uses and experience, thus a completely different aspect of the game.

[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

AdobeArtist

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

I'm talking about gameplay.

There is more in common between modern FPS and Half-Life than there is between Doom and modern FPS.

What gameplay mechanics specifically did HalfLife have, that's not found in Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, or any of it's other predecessors?

scripted sequences....that was what made Half Life so revolusionary for FPS's.

it was also the first to have a enviroment that made"sence"

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

Doom was the most ripped off game; how many FPS with guns have we seen? (yes im being sarcastic). And I don't like Killzone at all.

heretrix

Wolfenstein 3D came before Doom, know your history! Also Maze War in 1973 was one of the earliest FPS titles... but it was Wolfenstein 3D that set the way for the "modern" FPS popularity we know and love.

THANK YOU Subrosian. Amazing how many people think Doom was the progenitor of FPS when in fact it was Wolfenstein 3D. That's right noobs, ALL FPS games (including Halo, Resistance, KZ, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Unreal, Quake, and yes, Doom as well) owes their existance to Wolfenstein 3 D. Doom may have been the stellar hit for its time that defined the genre, but Wolfenstein gave birth to it.

lol i think many here would think fps started with halo

[QUOTE="Blommen"]But I thought Halo:CE was the first fps....?BambooBanger

It was the first game ever to feature 3D graphics.

HONEST.

Yeah I've heard that too. Wasn't it also the first shooter to introduce multiplayer using internet and stuffz?

That's funny. The whole A came before B, thus C is a copy of A and B is irrelevant argument. DOOM has a chainsaw so GEOW copied it ZOMG!

Because we all know that they are the same game. I am sitting here with a copy of DE:IW and DE GOTY edition, and Project Snowblind on my desk. They are NOWHERE NEAR the same game. bhe Biomods =/= the augmentations & items. Completely different uses and experience, thus a completely different aspect of the game.

usmcjdk6

And I could say the same about the games after Project Snowblind.

[QUOTE="Blommen"]But I thought Halo:CE was the first fps....?BambooBanger

It was the first game ever to feature 3D graphics.

HONEST.

Dude, it was the first game evar to have teh grafix.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

That's funny. The whole A came before B, thus C is a copy of A and B is irrelevant argument. DOOM has a chainsaw so GEOW copied it ZOMG!

Because we all know that they are the same game. I am sitting here with a copy of DE:IW and DE GOTY edition, and Project Snowblind on my desk. They are NOWHERE NEAR the same game. bhe Biomods =/= the augmentations & items. Completely different uses and experience, thus a completely different aspect of the game.

locopatho

And I could say the same about the games after Project Snowblind.

No, not really. Because they are not only presented in the same fashion (P:S - Bioshock anyone...lol), but they again, are used in the absolutely same fashion. That's the difference between ripping and borrowing. Project Snowblind BUILT upon Deus Ex. Many FPS don't do a dogs lick more than Project Snowblind, but use the same "borrowed" aspect is the same fashion - thus making it a RIP.

[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

More like Half-Life.

Father of the modern FPS and whatnot.

AdobeArtist

No. Just. Plain. NO!!

It was still Wolfenstein 3D. Hell I can even point out similarities in the story from Half Life that was 1st seen in Doom. Scientific experiment goes awry, portal to another dimension opened, otherworldly being come out of it (demons or aliens, small difference), you must shoot the onslaught of horrors.

I'm talking about gameplay.

There is more in common between modern FPS and Half-Life than there is between Doom and modern FPS.

What gameplay mechanics specifically did HalfLife have, that's not found in Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, or any of it's other predecessors?

The entire setup was different, the whole game having no cutscenes and happening in front of your chacters eyes. Plus, that AI, oh that dastardly AI.

Half Life was the bridge between older FPS like Doom and modern FPS like we have today. Its not that hard to see.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

That's funny. The whole A came before B, thus C is a copy of A and B is irrelevant argument. DOOM has a chainsaw so GEOW copied it ZOMG!

Because we all know that they are the same game. I am sitting here with a copy of DE:IW and DE GOTY edition, and Project Snowblind on my desk. They are NOWHERE NEAR the same game. bhe Biomods =/= the augmentations & items. Completely different uses and experience, thus a completely different aspect of the game.

usmcjdk6

And I could say the same about the games after Project Snowblind.

No, not really. Because they are not only presented in the same fashion (P:S - Bioshock anyone...lol), but they again, are used in the absolutely same fashion. That's the difference between ripping and borrowing. Project Snowblind BUILT upon Deus Ex. Many FPS don't do a dogs lick more than Project Snowblind, but use the same "borrowed" aspect is the same fashion - thus making it a RIP.

What of System Shock. And to be honest the Biomods/Augmentations in Snowblind and Deus Ex seemed pretty similar to me.