The Order Devs: "Game Rendered 1080p w/ 4xMSAA

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/06/the-order-1886-will-have-4x-aa-undecided-between-1920x800-and-1920x1080-lack-of-multiplayer-expained/

eady at Dawn Founder and Chief Technology Officer Andrea Pessino explained today that the massively anticipated PS4 exclusive The Order: 1886 will run with 4x antialiasing, but the developers still haven’t decided on the final resolution for the game:

He also mentioned that running the game at 1080p without antialiasing would require less hardware resources than 1920×800 with the edges-smoothing option enabled:

To be clear, x800 with 4xMSAA needs more bandwidth than x1080 would, so 1080 no MS would be cheaper.

Pessino is definitely right there, as 4x MSAA is definitely a very resource-intensive feature.

In addition to this, he also gave the reason why the game won’t have multiplayer, and it’s a quite simple but compelling explanation:

Correct. No multiplayer, it is a single player, third person actionadventure game. : )

Better to do one thing well than a whole bunch half-assed. : ) We are trying to make a SP experience you will enjoy.

He finally explained that he doesn’t know the details on what trailers and information will be available and when, so may as well stop asking him. His Twitter feed must be imploding.

I honestly don’t know yet the details of what will be made available or when, sorry. I am as curious as you are. : )

According to our information, the embargo on what was showcased at the press tour held two days ago in London (and there will be another in the US on the 10th) will drop on the 18th. so we still have a little less than two weeks to wait to see more of The Order: 1886.

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Did you read the article? They said they've had the game running 1080p with no AA but whilst nothing is set in stone it does seem like they'll go for the bars and 4x MSAA :)

I'd rather take the 1080p though if they can push some sort of a low cost AA solution.

Seems wasteful. SMAA is almost equally good, while also being significantly less resource intensive.

I despise those black bars.

I've also heard that the X1 does a bit of a better job with AA.. not sure why but It won't only be sony's console that has trouble with it. AA is expensive and demanding even on high end computers. Personally I'd like to see games in 1080p on my x1 and ps4 then 800p with AA.. Or depending on how well Devs get with the upscaler on both consoles I could live with 900p upscaled.

Either way it's too bad we even have to have this discussion.. Microsoft and Sony should have done a better job in terms of hardware.. I would have paid $599 for a much more powerful console.

There is going to be tons of damage control from lems on Feb 18.

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

I'm sad this is a discussion. The hardware capabilities of each current generation console are disappointing.

Why?

But not unsurprising. You can only do so much with a 200w-250w limit, especially if you're trying to keep costs down.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

Pretty much this.

Too bad the PS4 isn't powerful enough to make that happen at 60FPS, after all that is the true definition of next gen gaming.

I really doubt it will have 4xMSAA, it will have FXAA for sure, i mean the screenshots are blurry as hell, they are clearly using FXAA

Celebrating stuff that should be common in a 2014 video game. It' s nice and all but how long have these been an option in PC games?

But of course that doesn't matter until cows get a taste of it right?

It's still disappointing. 1080p 60fps w/AA is not standard? It's really just too bad. More than ever, Sony and MS are relying on killer exclusives, of which none have been made known.

Zing!

running a cooooolllll 30fps on the Sony ps30fps

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

@silversix_ said:

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

The car has a disgusting amount of aliasing going on

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

One thing i don't understand when it comes to AA is how in the actual **** aren't they using x4AA (minimum) in every title? How is it that with 512MB we were getting shitty FXAA/no AA and with 8GB of GDDR5 we're getting FXAA/no aa? What the **** is this? I understand AA isn't 100% on RAM but the gpu as well but come da fk on... No AA with 8GB is even in discussion? REALLY??? AF is another thing i really don't understand why devs aren't using (or using very low amount) when this thing isn't even noticeable in performance loss but is VERY noticeable graphically.

Sony hates AA. This has to be the case, no.

You cant even notice jaggies at 10 ft away from tv in 1080p! I have my pc hooked up to my 52" and sit 8 ft away and cant tell the difference between x2 x8 or no aa!!! Only if I get up close to the tv! Hope they just leave aa off and keep it at 1080p since you prob wont see a difference at that rez

because that's when Sony will release gameplay footage of the game. And apparently the game will have dynamic destruction too.

"The game has dynamic destruction, and while we’re not talking about Battlefield 4 levels of military bombast, Ready At Dawn’s surface and environmental destruction is rather impressive."

http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/21/ps4-gamescom-2013-sony-brings-its-next-gen-darlings-to-cologne/

One thing I don't get is why are there more discussions on the resolution and anti-aliasing of the game than what the game is about? I want to know more about what the actual game is about.

They're more concerned with pushing obvious graphical effects that people will notice more. Having something with pretty fire effects or particles everywhere is far more appealing to the average gamer than alright looking effects but no jaggies. A lot of people are used to jaggies from gen to gen anyway

@seanmcloughlin said:

@silversix_ said:

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

The car has a disgusting amount of aliasing going on

Look at this one, its even worst and this is not added jaggies or any kind of shit like that, this is native 1080p shot, what you see is what you get. Lems always post bullshots to show off this game's graphics but the graphics themselves are atrocious in FZ5. THIS is what won all the awards for the best looking title passed E3 TROLOLOLOL

Sick i didn't know that

So sexy. Infamous can't come soon enough, what a beast. Thank you based Sony.

Meanwhile lems are playing DR3 at 720p/15fps lololol

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

That's absolutely hideous, I knew Forza 5 wasn't really a looker but Gawd Daym... Those exhaust pipes look so pixelated it's not even funny.

Do love me some of that 1080p...sooooooooooo goooooooood.

@silversix_ said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@silversix_ said:

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

The car has a disgusting amount of aliasing going on

Look at this one, its even worst and this is not added jaggies or any kind of shit like that, this is native 1080p shot, what you see is what you get. Lems always post bullshots to show off this game's graphics but the graphics themselves are atrocious in FZ5. THIS is what won all the awards for the best looking title passed E3 TROLOLOLOL

Really? Looks like a pic from "Fit to Screen" mode, if you ask me. You have fun with pictures, I rather the real thing.

Prepare your eyes! This game demonstrates to perfection how wrong people are by saying that AA isn't needed in 1080p. (full screen for maximum juice)

30fps ftl :(

@silversix_ said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

That's absolutely hideous, I knew Forza 5 wasn't really a looker but Gawd Daym... Those exhaust pipes look so pixelated it's not even funny.

Prepare your eyes! This game demonstrates to perfection how wrong people are by saying that AA isn't needed in 1080p. (full screen for maximum juice)

Lmao is the car on the right covered in vaseline? Wtf and lems were going on about KZSF having blur rofl.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@silversix_ said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

That's absolutely hideous, I knew Forza 5 wasn't really a looker but Gawd Daym... Those exhaust pipes look so pixelated it's not even funny.

Prepare your eyes! This game demonstrates to perfection how wrong people are by saying that AA isn't needed in 1080p. (full screen for maximum juice)

Lmao is the car on the right covered in vaseline? Wtf and lems were going on about KZSF having blur rofl.

Believe these pics if you want to.

In replay mode, you can snap pictures and focus on the car...blurring out other vehicles.

SMH.

@draign said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@silversix_ said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

That's absolutely hideous, I knew Forza 5 wasn't really a looker but Gawd Daym... Those exhaust pipes look so pixelated it's not even funny.

Prepare your eyes! This game demonstrates to perfection how wrong people are by saying that AA isn't needed in 1080p. (full screen for maximum juice)

Lmao is the car on the right covered in vaseline? Wtf and lems were going on about KZSF having blur rofl.

Believe these pics if you want to.

Can I believe in those 2d cardboard cutout spectators as well?

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@draign said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@silversix_ said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

That's absolutely hideous, I knew Forza 5 wasn't really a looker but Gawd Daym... Those exhaust pipes look so pixelated it's not even funny.

Prepare your eyes! This game demonstrates to perfection how wrong people are by saying that AA isn't needed in 1080p. (full screen for maximum juice)

Lmao is the car on the right covered in vaseline? Wtf and lems were going on about KZSF having blur rofl.

Believe these pics if you want to.

Can I believe in those 2d cardboard cutout spectators as well?

Spectators are very real = )

Dev says its better to focus and do single player well and that's ok. Yet its not ok for Titanfall to have a single player part to it.

One sided as usual in these forums.

silversix_ once again manages to hijack a thread and turn it into a pile of shit, good job.

As for the MSAA I'd rather see 1080p and SMAA as discussed in the FXAA thread. 4x MSAA is great for less graphically intensive games but for something that's trying to push this filmic style so hard I can't see them sacrificing quality to get rid of a few more jaggies.

@draign: Yeah brah its all fake and nothing is real. Land from your Cloud already, game looks like shit.

No AA, pre bakery, google maps spectators, ps2 quality textures but it achieved 1080p/60fps!!!! Gratz! The Bone of all the systems has the less to brag about.

@silversix_ said:

@draign: Yeah brah its all fake and nothing is real. Land from your Cloud already, game looks like shit.

No AA, pre bakery, google maps spectators, ps2 quality textures but it achieved 1080p/60fps!!!! Gratz! The Bone of all the systems has the less to brag about.

Please name a console game that looks better than Forza 5 NOT named Ryse or Killzone:Shadow Fall.

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

@silversix_ said:

@draign said:

Why does Sony hate anti-aliasing? Could this be the difference between Sony and MS multiplats?

Nice trolling. MS is the one with the most jaggies in pretty much every single game released to date. Look at Forza, the only 1080p exclusive, its a mess of jaggies all in one game. On topic all i'll say is F*CK FXAA. Use anything but fking FXAA.

Trolling? I raised a question and youre butthurt. I own Forza 5 and its a beautiful game. Im sorry you are incapable of appreciating that, but not really.

I don't appreciate jaggies. there's more jaggies in FZ5 than microtransactions. If this is good looking game for you then you need to play a game that isn't your usual last gen port released on so called next gen system. Game looks below average and ugly in some cases. right click for full screen, game looks like something released on 360 ages ago.

You are more blind than an African Fruit bat if you actually believe what you say.

you do know that game has no AA at all not even a postAA right?

Most excellent. This game is shaping up to be the envy of all non ps4 owners.

Thank you Sony, SSM, Ready at Dawn...and Lord Kaz.

oh come on now im talking about anti aliasing. He said Sony doesn't like AA im showing him how his 'impressive looking' exclusives like AA.

Pretty sure it will look good enough on a low PPI hdtv.