The overall level of casualization in FPS games this gen

Would you agree with the following statement:

"The overall level of casualization this gen has reached level so high that - in retrospect - games like Rainbow Six Vegas look like ArmA (Armed Assault, highly realistic combat sim) in comparison to your average blockbuster FPS"

???

And ironically R6: Vegas received some negative feedback upon its release for streamlining its gameplay comparing to the previous Rainbow Six titles. Now, 6 years after the first Rainbow Six Vegas (or 4 years after Rainbow Six Vegas 2), it seems like you cannot go any deeper as far as console FPS are concerned when it comes to the tactical FPS gameplay. Right?

This seems like the kind of thread SNIPER4321 would post in.

Unfortunately to publishers and developers, streamlining means to completely strip out any gameplay that involves thought and replace them with simple button presses. What's equally annoying is the thought that if a game doesn't have a ridiculous amount of menus and stats it's dumbed down. I think there is a happy medium there somewhere, it's just that no one has been thoughtful enough about their design process to find it. There also hasn't been a thoughtful dialog from gamers about what they want either.

What's equally annoying is the thought that if a game doesn't have a ridiculous amount of menus and stats it's dumbed down.

heretrix

I dislike that the most mainly because of the huge level of ignorance of the people arguing.

i don't know why people act like they want hardcore games when they don't even play them
like that "what if quake was done today" video, what a joke
if you want to go play a competitive multiplayer fps with the best players
go play quakelive right now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93m0SiDVSE&hd=1probably the best overall arena aimer yz50 playing in this vid

or if you prefer rockets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE7iJ6xFcG0&hd=1&t=30s

But Call of Duty is realistic. princeofshapeir

Still better than hotkey-spamming MMORPG.

People are over using the term "casualization".

Because the average American brogamur or pre-teen can't think for himself.

Streamlining games isn't necessarily a bad thing. Vegas 1 and 2 are probably the best games in the franchise. As long as the game is fun I dont care how casualized it is.mems_1224

Because the average American brogamur or pre-teen can't think for himself.

QQabitmoar

and yet they're able to play mindless games like DotA?

If you haven't noticed by now...nearly every genre has become casualized.percech

Games are expensive to make,games need to sell well,therefore games need to be accessable to all.This is unfortunate for hardcore gamers but personally I play games for entertainment value not challenge so I'm ok with it.

Games are expensive to make,games need to sell well,therefore games need to be accessable to all.This is unfortunate for hardcore gamers but personally I play games for entertainment value not challenge so I'm ok with it.

OneInchMan99

lol alot of kids todays would have trouble even completeing quake 2's single player without cheats.

i don't know why people act like they want hardcore games when they don't even play them
like that "what if quake was done today" video, what a joke
if you want to go play a competitive multiplayer fps with the best players
go play quakelive right now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n93m0SiDVSE&hd=1probably the best overall arena aimer yz50 playing in this vid

or if you prefer rockets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE7iJ6xFcG0&hd=1&t=30s

JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="percech"]If you haven't noticed by now...nearly every genre has become casualized.faizan_faizan

beating quake 4 single player is a hell of alot easier

But Call of Duty is realistic. princeofshapeir

It's an arcade shooter.

God, why don't people realize this?

[spoiler] Not you, the people who actually do say this and mean it. [/spoiler]

No games today use quake 2's single player structure, it's like idsoftware forgot how to make games with that stucture.

backtracking makes game more difficult lol because u gotta find where door was u needed to unlock.

8:13 he's exiting area you can hit the button again and go back to same area u were just in.today's games are linear as hell compared to that because they're too scripted that's why i said half life ruined gaming.

noobmuhaha

backtracking into level u just beat is good you can get weapons you left lol or go back find secret area's you missed.

I missed secret areas? Ok go back into level and find em

The least amount of scripted events the better.

If you haven't noticed by now...nearly every genre has become casualized.percech

True. It is a sad era to be gaming.

Well, not if you're a casual gamer I suppose.

scripted events can effect gameplay in some ways like earthquake and changing the shape of the ground splitting it and making mounds which effects gameplay

but most scripted stuff doesnt effect gameplay