The PC only has 10 AA/AAA Exclusives Since Nov. 2006?

Its kind of weird how hermits are obsessed about expansion packs acting as if they only exist on PC. Its actually beyond weird. Anyway...good point they shouldn't count.

The TC is making a valid point. The PC isn't as great as hermits make it out to be.

JiveT

Except WoW Burning Crusade and Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance brang as much content as CoD 4/GeoW/Halo 3 altogether.

Hell, Burning Crusade offered more content than any console game out there...

Its kind of weird how hermits are obsessed about expansion packs acting as if they only exist on PC. Its actually beyond weird. Anyway...good point they shouldn't count.

The TC is making a valid point. The PC isn't as great as hermits make it out to be.

JiveT

Have you taken a look at the number of AAA/AA exclusives the PS3, 360, or Wii have?

Far fewer than the TC's list, even if you did combine them, and even if the TC's list is severely truncated.

And yes, expansion packs count. As Vandalvideo said, one PC expansion pack has more new content than "new" games like GRAW2, COD3, and even COD4.

[QUOTE="NerdMan"][QUOTE="svp0123"]

that is why i do not like the PC. their exclusives are crappy. i would rather get gears of war a year earlier, madden 08 the good version, NBA 2k8, Halo 3, Forza 2, Mass Effect and for my PS3 Uncharted, R&C, and for my Wii SMG, ZTP and MP3. it really isnt close if you have a PS360Wii compared to the PC.

PC blows.

Spartan070

Yeah, games like Company of Heroes, NWN2, Supreme Commander, Medival 2: TW are crap. :lol: Where are all these newbs coming from?

I knew there was always jealousy of the PC's dominant game library, but I didn't know it was quite this rampant.

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="NerdMan"][QUOTE="svp0123"]

that is why i do not like the PC. their exclusives are crappy. i would rather get gears of war a year earlier, madden 08 the good version, NBA 2k8, Halo 3, Forza 2, Mass Effect and for my PS3 Uncharted, R&C, and for my Wii SMG, ZTP and MP3. it really isnt close if you have a PS360Wii compared to the PC.

PC blows.

TheTerribleFish

Yeah, games like Company of Heroes, NWN2, Supreme Commander, Medival 2: TW are crap. :lol: Where are all these newbs coming from?

I knew there was always jealousy of the PC's dominant game library, but I didn't know it was quite this rampant.

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

smokeydabear076

And by pure coincidence, RTS's is one of my favorite genre's, and the lack of interest towards it in SW is saddening. :(

I'm just curious, but are expansion packs not held to different standards? I always assumed they were, since they aremeant to expand on the content already offered by a game rather then offering a direct sequel; and don't they generally need the original game to play?

Either way they should not be discredited, but at the same time listing the # of AAA/AA games as your sole arguement is also weak.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

TheTerribleFish

And by pure coincidence, RTS's is one of my favorite genre's, and the lack of interest towards it in SW is saddening. :(

[QUOTE="TheTerribleFish"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Jealousy? Of a MMORPG and 3 RTS games? Not that I completely agree with svp0123 but lol.
smokeydabear076

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

I was simply pointing out that there were only two genres there because svp0123 named numerous different console games, most all of different genres. I was merely commenting on the "lol factor" of being jealous of a "dominant game library" when you only give two genres compared to about six from svp0123.

Sorry, I just could'nt help but to have a laugh at the irony.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="TheTerribleFish"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Jealousy? Of a MMORPG and 3 RTS games? Not that I completely agree with svp0123 but lol.
Spartan070

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

I was simply pointing out that there were only two genres there because svp0123 named numerous different console games, most all of different genres. I was merely commenting on the "lol factor" of being jealous of a "dominant game library" when you only give two genres compared to about six from svp0123.

Sorry, I just could'nt help but to have a laugh at the irony.

Have you bothered to count the number of genres that the Xbox 360's list of AAA exclusives belong to?

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="TheTerribleFish"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Jealousy? Of a MMORPG and 3 RTS games? Not that I completely agree with svp0123 but lol.
Spartan070

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

I was simply pointing out that there were only two genres there because svp0123 named numerous different console games, most all of different genres. I was merely commenting on the "lol factor" of being jealous of a "dominant game library" when you only give two genres compared to about six from svp0123.

Sorry, I just could'nt help but to have a laugh at the irony.

But he named games from all 3 consoles ....

[QUOTE="JiveT"]

Its kind of weird how hermits are obsessed about expansion packs acting as if they only exist on PC. Its actually beyond weird. Anyway...good point they shouldn't count.

The TC is making a valid point. The PC isn't as great as hermits make it out to be.

IgGy621985

Except WoW Burning Crusade and Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance brang as much content as CoD 4/GeoW/Halo 3 altogether.

Hell, Burning Crusade offered more content than any console game out there...

[QUOTE="007_jamesbond"]

NOT INCLUDING EXPANSION PACKS, OR DOWNLOADABLE ONLY GAMES

According to this:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA

The games are:

-GTR 2 (AAA)

-Race (AA)

-Race 07 (AA)

-Supreme Commander (AA)

-Europa Universalis III (AA)

-The Witcher (AA)

-S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (AA)

-Baseball Mogul 2008 (AA)

-Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific (AA)

-Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened (AA)

Honestly, Do any of the above games interest anyone? They all look pretty dull to me.

NerdMan

Also, :lol: @ not including Medieval 2: Total War, Galactic Civ: Dread Lords, Star Wars: Empire at War, LOTR online, etc. Not everything with a colon is an expansion. Do some real research newb. Your pathetic argument got even weaker when you only listed like half the games you're trying to narrow it down to.

Exactly what I was thinking.

And by the way, Topic Creator, what's wrong with Silent Hunter and S.T.A.L.K.E.R? Those games pwn.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]counting expansions is pathetic.....MikeE21286

No, what's pathetic is how many expansion packs contain more content than most console games.

Have you ever played an expansion?:lol:

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="TheTerribleFish"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Jealousy? Of a MMORPG and 3 RTS games? Not that I completely agree with svp0123 but lol.
Spartan070

Correction. 3 of the best RTS's recently released, pluss NWN2 is not and MMORPG, but a CRPG, and the best one this year.

I was simply pointing out that there were only two genres there because svp0123 named numerous different console games, most all of different genres. I was merely commenting on the "lol factor" of being jealous of a "dominant game library" when you only give two genres compared to about six from svp0123.

Sorry, I just could'nt help but to have a laugh at the irony.

But he named games from all 3 consoles ....

Meu2k7

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Lol hold on guys.:lol:

I was simply pointing out that there were only two genres there because svp0123 named numerous different console games, most all of different genres. I was merely commenting on the "lol factor" of being jealous of a "dominant game library" when you only give two genres compared to about six from svp0123.

Sorry, I just could'nt help but to have a laugh at the irony.

Meu2k7

But he named games from all 3 consoles ....

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

But he named games from all 3 consoles ....

smokeydabear076

Yeah and there are only two genres on the PC.smokeydabear076

Ofcourse its so damn obvious now! When we discuss libraries, the Lemmings / Sheep / Cows have all 3 consoles all of a sudden!

"360 has the best library" ,,,,, buh buh buh I got PCWiiPS3 > 360 Library LOLZZZ

Oh wait .... in reality though you could trumph the 360 with the PC alone, oh dear :lol:

or even ebtter none of them individual touch the PC's library , the 360's strong genres are stronger on the PC, the PS3 .... is just ... wait. The Wii has unique things but Quanity/Quality ratio-wise nowhere near.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]counting expansions is pathetic.....NerdMan

No, what's pathetic is how many expansion packs contain more content than most console games.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Yeah and there are only two genres on the PC.Spartan070

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

But he named games from all 3 consoles ....

smokeydabear076

Ofcourse its so damn obvious now! When we discuss libraries, the Lemmings / Sheep / Cows have all 3 consoles all of a sudden!

"360 has the best library" ,,,,, buh buh buh I got PCWiiPS3 > 360 Library LOLZZZ

Oh wait .... in reality though you could trumph the 360 with the PC alone, oh dear :lol:

Meu2k7

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Yeah and there are only two genres on the PC.smokeydabear076

Okay, so the conclusion is, console exclusives can't compare with PC's exclusive library, unless you put all three consoles on the table?

I'm fine with that.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ofcourse its so damn obvious now! When we discuss libraries, the Lemmings / Sheep / Cows have all 3 consoles all of a sudden!

"360 has the best library" ,,,,, buh buh buh I got PCWiiPS3 > 360 Library LOLZZZ

Oh wait .... in reality though you could trumph the 360 with the PC alone, oh dear :lol:

Unforgiven2870

Its sarcasm, because "Anaylsysts" and Consoloe Fanboys have been saying this for that long, and thigns are only improving :D

"If this is dying, then I'm pretty damn happy ;)"

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Yeah and there are only two genres on the PC.Spartan070

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ofcourse its so damn obvious now! When we discuss libraries, the Lemmings / Sheep / Cows have all 3 consoles all of a sudden!

"360 has the best library" ,,,,, buh buh buh I got PCWiiPS3 > 360 Library LOLZZZ

Oh wait .... in reality though you could trumph the 360 with the PC alone, oh dear :lol:

Meu2k7

Its sarcasm, because "Anaylsysts" and Consoloe Fanboys have been saying this for that long, and thigns are only improving :D

"If this is dying, then I'm pretty damn happy ;)"

counting expansions is pathetic.....MikeE21286

You have to do this for the home consoles then. Halo3 was just Halo2 expansion. Metroid = just expansion. R&C just expansion.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]counting expansions is pathetic.....Derek240

You have to do this for the home consoles then. Halo3 was just Halo2 expansion. Metroid = just expansion. R&C just expansion.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Yeah and there are only two genres on the PC.smokeydabear076

I feel like I'm preaching to the choir since you of course already know.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Yeah and there are only two genres on the PC.Spartan070

I feel like I'm preaching to the choir since you of course already know.

Gears of war is AAA...Hitamaru-homia

And since when are Gears console exclusive?

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Though some are represented more prominently than others, all genres are on PC.

I feel like I'm preaching to the choir since you of course already know.

smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Though some are represented more prominently than others, all genres are on PC.

I feel like I'm preaching to the choir since you of course already know.

Spartan070

I dont get the objection people have to expansion packs when it comes to counting AAA/AA games.

Is it because of the content? If so most PC expansion packs have more content and gameplay than a number of new console games.

Is it because they are too similar to the original game? If so then you might as well exlude a number of console sequeals such as God Of War 2, MP2 and most of the yearly sports game that come out.

Look at expansion packs such as Red Alert, which scored higher than C&C, or Brood War which scored the same as Starcraft. If you had actually played any of this games then you would understand that the expansions were better than the original games, which is no small task when you consider how great those games where.

In order for an expansion pack to get AAA/AA most of the time it would have to have improved graphics, improved/expanded gameplay, and much more content. If they were to come out on a console they would be considered sequals.

I dont get the objection people have to expansion packs when it comes to counting AAA/AA games.

Is it because of the content? If so most PC expansion packs have more content and gameplay than a number of new console games.

Is it because they are too similar to the original game? If so then you might as well exlude a number of console sequeals such as God Of War 2, MP2 and most of the yearly sports game that come out.

Look at expansion packs such as Red Alert, which scored higher than C&C, or Brood War which scored the same as Starcraft. If you had actually played any of this games then you would understand that the expansions were better than the original games, which is no small task when you consider how great those games where.

In order for an expansion pack to get AAA/AA most of the time it would have to have improved graphics, improved/expanded gameplay, and much more content. If they were to come out on a console they would be considered sequals.

Philmon

[QUOTE="NerdMan"][QUOTE="svp0123"]

that is why i do not like the PC. their exclusives are crappy. i would rather get gears of war a year earlier, madden 08 the good version, NBA 2k8, Halo 3, Forza 2, Mass Effect and for my PS3 Uncharted, R&C, and for my Wii SMG, ZTP and MP3. it really isnt close if you have a PS360Wii compared to the PC.

PC blows.

Spartan070

Yeah, games like Company of Heroes, NWN2, Supreme Commander, Medival 2: TW are crap. :lol: Where are all these newbs coming from?

I knew there was always jealousy of the PC's dominant game library, but I didn't know it was quite this rampant.

NWN2 MMORPG :lol: :lol:

M2TW RTS :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ofcourse its so damn obvious now! When we discuss libraries, the Lemmings / Sheep / Cows have all 3 consoles all of a sudden!

"360 has the best library" ,,,,, buh buh buh I got PCWiiPS3 > 360 Library LOLZZZ

Oh wait .... in reality though you could trumph the 360 with the PC alone, oh dear :lol:

Unforgiven2870

Its called irony

oh and I checked...the 360 only has 6 AA/AAA exclusives since nov. 6.

and there are several games missing from the PC list already....

[QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]counting expansions is pathetic.....MikeE21286

No, what's pathetic is how many expansion packs contain more content than most console games.

company of heroes is as much a new games as halo 3, it doesn't even need the original so whats you excuse now?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]counting expansions is pathetic.....MikeE21286

No, what's pathetic is how many expansion packs contain more content than most console games.

and rehasing halo2 makes halo 3 better somehow?

[QUOTE="Sparky04"]Because exclusives are the only way to have fun.i_like_pizza

I never got why things had to be exclusive in order to be a big deal, either. I couldn't care less if you can play Grand Theft Auto on your Xbox, because I can play it on my PS2. It's still on both consoles, who cares about exclusivity except elitist SW nerds?

[QUOTE="007_jamesbond"]

NOT INCLUDING EXPANSION PACKS, OR DOWNLOADABLE ONLY GAMES

According to this:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA

The games are:

-GTR 2 (AAA)

-Race (AA)

-Race 07 (AA)

-Supreme Commander (AA)

-Europa Universalis III (AA)

-The Witcher (AA)

-S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (AA)

-Baseball Mogul 2008 (AA)

-Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific (AA)

-Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened (AA)

Honestly, Do any of the above games interest anyone? They all look pretty dull to me.

svp0123

that is why i do not like the PC. their exclusives are crappy. i would rather get gears of war a year earlier, madden 08 the good version, NBA 2k8, Halo 3, Forza 2, Mass Effect and for my PS3 Uncharted, R&C, and for my Wii SMG, ZTP and MP3. it really isnt close if you have a PS360Wii compared to the PC.

PC blows.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.naval

Yup, expansion packs count, no matter how much console gamers whine, they will count

so why arent we counting GRAW: Chapter 2 for the 360?

Since it doesnt have a review by default i guess its whatever the original game was.

Another AAA for the 360?

[QUOTE="naval"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.smugdarkloser12

Yup, expansion packs count, no matter how much console gamers whine, they will count

so why arent we counting GRAW: Chapter 2 for the 360?

Since it doesnt have a review by default i guess its whatever the original game was.

Another AAA for the 360?

We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.Vandalvideo