The PC only has 10 AA/AAA Exclusives Since Nov. 2006?

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#101 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.Heil68
We? PC platform is yours?

Actually I own it.
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#102 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.Heil68
We? PC platform is yours?

We = PCgamers And yes, I own my platform.
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#103 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.Vandalvideo
We? PC platform is yours?

We = PCgamers And yes, I own my platform.

But thats impossible!:o
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#104 bobaban
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Well Crysis and Starcraft II were enough for me when I bought my rig. Plus I only have a laptop which is severly outdated, 2003. And I dont have a 360.
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#105 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.Vandalvideo
We? PC platform is yours?

We = PCgamers And yes, I own my platform.

What criteria has to be met to be a 'PC' gamer?
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#106 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.Heil68
We? PC platform is yours?

We = PCgamers And yes, I own my platform.

What criteria has to be met to be a 'PC' gamer?

I don't know, what criteria has to be met to be a 'console' gamer?
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#107 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]We actually have 14 AAA games (5 exclusive) and 65 AA games ( 45 exclusive). Expansions count, end of story. Thread number ten million, ended.smokeydabear076
We? PC platform is yours?

We = PCgamers And yes, I own my platform.

What criteria has to be met to be a 'PC' gamer?

I don't know, what criteria has to be met to be a 'console' gamer?

Have consoles and currently play games on them. Same for PC?
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#108 smokeydabear076
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Have consoles and currently play games on them. Same for PC?Heil68
Like I said before. I don't know.:? Why does it matter?
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#109 Planeforger
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Even if we're not counting expansion packs, there are still a number of games that you missed.

How about you make a list of games you're not counting, so that we can debunk most of them?

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#110 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"] Have consoles and currently play games on them. Same for PC?smokeydabear076
Like I said before. I don't know.:? Why does it matter?

The plural "we" bothers me..I think everyone who has a computer is a PC gamer of some sorts. What excludes users from being considered a PC gamer?
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#111 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Have consoles and currently play games on them. Same for PC?Heil68
Like I said before. I don't know.:? Why does it matter?

The plural "we" bothers me..I think everyone who has a computer is a PC gamer of some sorts. What excludes users from being considered a PC gamer?

Not everyone plays games on their computer.
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#112 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Have consoles and currently play games on them. Same for PC?Heil68
Like I said before. I don't know.:? Why does it matter?

The plural "we" bothers me..I think everyone who has a computer is a PC gamer of some sorts. What excludes users from being considered a PC gamer?

I think that if you don't regularly play full-priced $50-60 PC games, you're not a "PC gamer" as far as System Wars is concerned.

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#113 Battleer
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that is why i do not like the PC. their exclusives are crappy. i would rather get gears of war a year earlier, madden 08 the good version, NBA 2k8, Halo 3, Forza 2, Mass Effect and for my PS3 Uncharted, R&C, and for my Wii SMG, ZTP and MP3. it really isnt close if you have a PS360Wii compared to the PC.

PC blows.

A. Who has a PS360Wii laying around to beat a PC, B. Nice job pitting one against three, 3. Last but certainly not least, I may be remembering wrong but I thought we were on Gamespot, and if we are were using gamespots reviews. And if thats true, didn't R and C flop severly....hmm I may be wrong.
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#114 br0kenrabbit
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Are all genres on the consoles?smokeydabear076
You won't see any true simulators on the consoles. Like a flight sim, naval sim, tank sim etc.
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#115 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Are all genres on the consoles?br0kenrabbit
You won't see any true simulators on the consoles. Like a flight sim, naval sim, tank sim etc.

Well, Over-G Fighters is pretty damn close to being a true flight sim.

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#116 MIYAMOTOnext007
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NOT INCLUDING EXPANSION PACKS, OR DOWNLOADABLE ONLY GAMES

According to this:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA



The games are:

-GTR 2 (AAA)

-Race (AA)

-Race 07 (AA)

-Supreme Commander (AA)

-Europa Universalis III (AA)

-The Witcher (AA)

-S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (AA)

-Baseball Mogul 2008 (AA)

-Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific (AA)

-Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened (AA)

Honestly, Do any of the above games interest anyone? They all look pretty dull to me.

007_jamesbond
Dull? Most of these games are more innovative, unique, and inteligent than any PS3 game that is out, or will ever come out.
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#117 Planeforger
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I'll only include the stand-alone games on that list from November 06 to keep people happy:

AAA Exclusives - 0

AA Exclusives - 20
RACE - The WTCC game
Medieval 2: Total War
Supreme Commander
Europa Universalis 3
Neverwinter Nights 2
Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
The Witcher
STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar
Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened
Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific
The Ship
Dominions 3: The Awakening
Guild Wars Nightfall
RACE 07 - The WTCC Game
TrackMania United
Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
Sam and Max: Episode 6: Bright Side of the Moon
Baseball Mogul 2008
Sam and Max: Episode 5: Reality 2.0

Total - 20

If he'd made the list from October 06, it would be an even larger number...and since expansion packs do count, the number is probably closer to 30 or 40 - 3 or 4 times the initial estimate in this thread.

*Edit* Oh yeah, and /thread

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#118 br0kenrabbit
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Are all genres on the consoles?mjarantilla

You won't see any true simulators on the consoles. Like a flight sim, naval sim, tank sim etc.

Well, Over-G Fighters is pretty damn close to being a true flight sim.

No, I don't think so. Not in a million years. You're not flying the plane in such games, you're just telling it where to go. That's what makes a sim a sim: you actually have to FLY the plane. Engine settings, fuel settings, convergence settings, flaps, magnetos, superchargers, oil pressure, coolant pressure, cowl settings, and so on and so forth, are all required to even be considered 'close' to a sim.
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#119 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Are all genres on the consoles?br0kenrabbit

You won't see any true simulators on the consoles. Like a flight sim, naval sim, tank sim etc.

Well, Over-G Fighters is pretty damn close to being a true flight sim.

No, I don't think so. Not in a million years. You're not flying the plane in such games, you're just telling it where to go. That's what makes a sim a sim: you actually have to FLY the plane. Engine settings, fuel settings, convergence settings, flaps, magnetos, superchargers, oil pressure, coolant pressure, cowl settings, and so on and so forth, are all required to even be considered 'close' to a sim.

Well, it's about as close as consoles will probably get. The planes react realistically, they are affected by drag, fuel loadout, weapon loadout, weight, etc.

EDIT: Which is why I said "close to being a flight sim" and not "actually is a flight sim." Being "actually a flight sim" requires all those details. In Over-G (which I haven't played, but a friend of mine in the USAF loves it), it incorporates as much control over those small details as the limited gamepad can provide.

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#120 br0kenrabbit
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Well, it's about as close as consoles will probably get. The planes react realistically, they are affected by drag, fuel loadout, weapon loadout, weight, etc.

EDIT: Which is why I said "close to being a flight sim" and not "actually is a flight sim." Being "actually a flight sim" requires all those details. In Over-G (which I haven't played, but a friend of mine in the USAF loves it), it incorporates as much control over those small details as the limited gamepad can provide.

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Yeah, well see that's the thing about consoles vs, PC : those of us who prefer realism in execution over the simplified and 'adjusted for difficulty' really have no choice but to game on PC. And by 'adjusted for difficulty' I mean this: I can spend an hour (real time) flying to a target, just to have my screen go black when a stray AA round from the ground enters my cockpit. I never saw it, I never heard it, there was no chance to avoid it. It just happened and that was the end of the game. That would never happen in a console game. They would never get away with 'wasting' and hour of the players time to fall to a 'cheap shot'. That the difference in perspective we have: To most console players, such a scenario would be a 'cheap shot'. To many of us on the PC side, it's simply 'realism' and not just accepted, but appreciated.
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#121 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Well, it's about as close as consoles will probably get. The planes react realistically, they are affected by drag, fuel loadout, weapon loadout, weight, etc.

EDIT: Which is why I said "close to being a flight sim" and not "actually is a flight sim." Being "actually a flight sim" requires all those details. In Over-G (which I haven't played, but a friend of mine in the USAF loves it), it incorporates as much control over those small details as the limited gamepad can provide.

br0kenrabbit

Yeah, well see that's the thing about consoles vs, PC : those of us who prefer realism in execution over the simplified and 'adjusted for difficulty' really have no choice but to game on PC. And by 'adjusted for difficulty' I mean this: I can spend an hour (real time) flying to a target, just to have my screen go black when a stray AA round from the ground enters my cockpit. I never saw it, I never heard it, there was no chance to avoid it. It just happened and that was the end of the game. That would never happen in a console game. They would never get away with 'wasting' and hour of the players time to fall to a 'cheap shot'. That the difference in perspective we have: To most console players, such a scenario would be a 'cheap shot'. To many of us on the PC side, it's simply 'realism' and not just accepted, but appreciated.

Hey, I'm primarily a PC gamer, so I understand where you're coming from. Although I prefer strategy games, and there's no real strategy on consoles.

BTW, your "adjusted for difficulty" example: Is that actually possible on any PC flight sim?

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#122 Velocitas8
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*Sigh* ..yet another failed PC-bashing thread.
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#123 br0kenrabbit
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BTW, your "adjusted for difficulty" example: Is that actually possible on any PC flight sim?

mjarantilla
I often fly the single-player dynamic-campaign for IL2 Sturmovik: 1946. I've had my pilot killed out of the blue more times than I care to count. And by out-of-the-blue I really mean I'm flying along nice and quite, I hear a 'thunk' and my screen goes black. It could be a stray small-arms round from the ground, AA fire, flak, or a round for another plane. I have to save the track and play it back in view mode to see what happened, because I can't shift the view to outside the cockpit while I'm actually in-game. External views are during play back only. More often than not that doesn't happen, but it can and does. Even excepting that, IL2 on full realism and at reasonable difficulty has a realistic survival-rating per mission. So, early in the war if you're flying as a Soviet Fighter in a group of three against the modernized Luftwaffe with more planes than you, then no matter how skilled you are your chances of returning home are iffy. But it certainly is a thrill when you can nurse a crippled plane full of holes with half the controls not responding back in for a near-perfect landing.
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#124 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="NerdMan"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]counting expansions is pathetic.....MikeE21286

No, what's pathetic is how many expansion packs contain more content than most console games.

no, its pathetic. its not a new game

No, what's pathetic is how little new content a lot of cosnole sequels have. If you don't want to count expansion pack then you also can't count stuff like God of War 2.

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NOT INCLUDING EXPANSION PACKS, OR DOWNLOADABLE ONLY GAMES

According to this:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA



The games are:

-GTR 2 (AAA)

-Race (AA)

-Race 07 (AA)

-Supreme Commander (AA)

-Europa Universalis III (AA)

-The Witcher (AA)

-S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (AA)

-Baseball Mogul 2008 (AA)

-Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific (AA)

-Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened (AA)

Honestly, Do any of the above games interest anyone? They all look pretty dull to me007_jamesbond

From november 06?

You forgot about LOTR Online, Trackmania Sunrise, Dominions 3: The Awakening, Medieval II: Total War, Neverwinter Nights 2. Second of all awful lot of expansion packs are semi-sequels. THey offer tons of new contant and are stand-alone (not requiring original game) and are much more of "sequels" than stuff like GRAW2, God f War 2 or every yearly sports game is.

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#126 FrozenLiquid
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This thread is full of fail....and suck :lol:

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#127 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Have consoles and currently play games on them. Same for PC?mjarantilla

Like I said before. I don't know.:? Why does it matter?

The plural "we" bothers me..I think everyone who has a computer is a PC gamer of some sorts. What excludes users from being considered a PC gamer?

I think that if you don't regularly play full-priced $50-60 PC games, you're not a "PC gamer" as far as System Wars is concerned.

that would be preety dumb considering that it's extremely rare for PC game to cost over 50$, while a lot of neww releases start from 40$ or lower.

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#128 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

Hey look at this list of Xbox 360 AA/AAA Exclusives since Nov. 2006

Halo 3

Dang that list is looking pretty dull. Do people actually care about that game?

Greyhound222

/win as usual :D

Double win

Triple win.

Epic Win.

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#129 chester706
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Supreme Commander is awesome and STALKER is I believe more fun than Oblivion (andd yes they are very comparable).
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#130 chester706
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This thread is full of fail....and suck :lol:

FrozenLiquid
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#131 whoody12
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if you can't count expensions, you can't cout CoD4 either
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#132 froidnite
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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

Hey look at this list of Xbox 360 AA/AAA Exclusives since Nov. 2006

Halo 3

Dang that list is looking pretty dull. Do people actually care about that game?

aliblabla2007

/win as usual :D

Double win

Triple win.

Epic Win.

Dang...Now I couldn't continue the chain.