The Pokemon X and Y Thread: 8/10 Gamespot (Total Number of New Pokemon Leaked)

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]I would be really anticipating these games if Gamefreak would actually use the Pokémon universe well and change the progression. It's been the same damn thing since Red & Green. At this point I'll only be checking it out at some point for the new battle animations.Maroxad

I assume by progression you mean the formula (start in a hamlet, rival, team evil, 8 badges, elite four), and if that is the case I totally agree.

3D and worldwide release are not enough for me, I need moar.

I would love seeing the next pokemon game take place in a freeroam open world environment with toned down levelling, tonnes of secrets, a lot of side quests and activities, trainer advancement (trainers who use a certain type will gain exp in this type which will grant bonus exp to pokes that are a lower level than the trainer's level which should help encourage players in trying out new pokemon), rebalance the pokemon and make sure there is absolutely no level scaling.

Which game has the Fairy Legendary? I'll probably get that version because innovation lol.TheDidact

Hype is almost at AAAE now. Keep it up guys, if we keep this up, we're gonna have a bigger flop than The Last of Us on our hands soon.charizard1605

Despite my negative tone in this thread, I am probably getting the game near launch. Pokemon is still one of the few RPG franchises I can still stand.

New Smash Bros characters?

Game is gonna get hit by the rehash bat.

Game is gonna get hit by the rehash bat.

nitekids2004

Game is gonna get hit by the rehash bat.

nitekids2004

AAAe hype from me, Getting Y, Very excited for October.

Hyping it A. 3D isn't gonna save it from still being the exact same thing to the average person. Still think it looks dope though.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Game is gonna get hit by the rehash bat.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Game is gonna get hit by the rehash bat.

Shinobishyguy

Your gamespot hates 3DS conspiracy theory really lacks a basis. You sound like cows in 2006-present. You really want to be in that category of stupid?

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Meanwhile the world will be enjoying the greatest Pokemon game (and by extension, the greatest handheld game) of all time.ActicEdge

Your gamespot hates 3DS conspiracy theory really lacks a basis. You sound like cows in 2006-present. You really want to be in that category of stupid?

Hyping it A. 3D isn't gonna save it from still being the exact same thing to the average person. Still think it looks dope though.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Hyping it A. 3D isn't gonna save it from still being the exact same thing to the average person. Still think it looks dope though.

charizard1605

To a degree, but they are also going to recognize its just B/W but in 3D and even if the buying base doesn't care (for example I don't) gsmespot (who ultimately is all who matters for hype) sure as hell will.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Hyping it A. 3D isn't gonna save it from still being the exact same thing to the average person. Still think it looks dope though.

ActicEdge

To a degree, but they are also going to recognize its just B/W but in 3D and even if the buying base doesn't care (for example I don't) gsmespot (who ultimately is all who matters for hype) sure as hell will.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]HURR NO GAMESPOT GAVE IT A 7. IT SUCKSShinobishyguy

Your gamespot hates 3DS conspiracy theory really lacks a basis. You sound like cows in 2006-present. You really want to be in that category of stupid?

What have they done to constitute hate? Not given it a 9? Is that all you have?

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Your gamespot hates 3DS conspiracy theory really lacks a basis. You sound like cows in 2006-present. You really want to be in that category of stupid?

ActicEdge

What have they done to constitute hate? Not given it a 9? Is that all you have?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Actually, the average person cares more about how a game looks than how it plays, meaning that to your regular Joe, X and Y would have been incredibly refreshing even if they hadn't got all the new stuff.charizard1605

To a degree, but they are also going to recognize its just B/W but in 3D and even if the buying base doesn't care (for example I don't) gsmespot (who ultimately is all who matters for hype) sure as hell will.

For me, I always find it hard with something like pokemon to score. Mechanics that do change or evolve sometimes don't mean anything unless you wanna go competitive or rather, properly train your pokes. Features and stuff like that are hard to rate. And then the idea that the core adventure is the same is that its suppose to be a resest sort of thing constantly inviting new people and especially the younger audience to experience the formula. Its crazy hard to figure out how to properly rate it because these reviewers have all probably played the same game for like 7 iterations now.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]hey I'd welcome it if they proved me wrong. Shinobishyguy

What have they done to constitute hate? Not given it a 9? Is that all you have?

You think maybe the games that they gave 8.5 too just weren't 9's in their opinion. I mean to me your complaint is basically "they are bias until something gets a 9". You know how stupid that sounds? 

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

To a degree, but they are also going to recognize its just B/W but in 3D and even if the buying base doesn't care (for example I don't) gsmespot (who ultimately is all who matters for hype) sure as hell will.

ActicEdge

For me, I always find it hard with something like pokemon to score. Mechanics that do change or evolve sometimes don't mean anything unless you wanna go competitive or rather, properly train your pokes. Features and stuff like that are hard to rate. And then the idea that the core adventure is the same is that its suppose to be a resest sort of thing constantly inviting new people and especially the younger audience to experience the formula. Its crazy hard to figure out how to properly rate it because these reviewers have all probably played the same game for like 7 iterations now.

I'm hyping it AAA. It will not get AAA here on Gamespot, but don't care. For me it will be AAA :D

Embrace the Flop!

Hyping this AAAE. :D

Hype is now AAAE. Gg, guys.charizard1605

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Oh, Gamespot is going to flop this to hell and back. Most people just don't care. Plus I'm sure IGN will more than make up :Pcharizard1605

For me, I always find it hard with something like pokemon to score. Mechanics that do change or evolve sometimes don't mean anything unless you wanna go competitive or rather, properly train your pokes. Features and stuff like that are hard to rate. And then the idea that the core adventure is the same is that its suppose to be a resest sort of thing constantly inviting new people and especially the younger audience to experience the formula. Its crazy hard to figure out how to properly rate it because these reviewers have all probably played the same game for like 7 iterations now.

For me they are all essentially the same thing so I just judge it based on how much fun I have playing it, the way the cave and forest puzzles are laid out, the creature designs, meaningful attack changes, interface, etc.In my books they are all good games but you don't need to play every gen of pokemon to know what you're missing. You can essentially just skip a gen or 2 and be fine. B/W was a better adventure than D/P though imo even if the metagame for it is stupidly expansive now that dream world abilities exist.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hype is now AAAE. Gg, guys.Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

For me, I always find it hard with something like pokemon to score. Mechanics that do change or evolve sometimes don't mean anything unless you wanna go competitive or rather, properly train your pokes. Features and stuff like that are hard to rate. And then the idea that the core adventure is the same is that its suppose to be a resest sort of thing constantly inviting new people and especially the younger audience to experience the formula. Its crazy hard to figure out how to properly rate it because these reviewers have all probably played the same game for like 7 iterations now.

ActicEdge

For me they are all essentially the same thing so I just judge it based on how much fun I have playing it, the way the cave and forest puzzles are laid out, the creature designs, meaningful attack changes, interface, etc.In my books they are all good games but you don't need to play every gen of pokemon to know what you're missing. You can essentially just skip a gen or 2 and be fine. B/W was a better adventure than D/P though imo even if the metagame for it is stupidly expansive now that dream world abilities exist.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hype is now AAAE. Gg, guys.charizard1605

Being a bigger flop doesn't mean being more memorable. TLOU was such a "eff you" moment. Cows are the worst for hyping a game ever. This game is just being hyped because the fanbase is just like w/e we'll like it no matter what.

Hype is now AAAE. Gg, guys.charizard1605

Lettus celebrate the Flop. It will be glorious/entertaining/whatever. When the review comes out, let's get our wine glasses ready, celebrate the 7.0 or lower score, and enjoy the game.

AAE. I feel the transition will hurt them, though they look freakin' awesome.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]this thread still has two months to goActicEdge

Being a bigger flop doesn't mean being more memorable. TLOU was such a "eff you" moment. Cows are the worst for hyping a game ever. This game is just being hyped because the fanbase is just like w/e we'll like it no matter what.

AAE. I feel the transition will hurt them, though they look freakin' awesome.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hype is now AAAE. Gg, guys.AmayaPapaya

Lettus celebrate the Flop. It will be glorious/entertaining/whatever. When the review comes out, let's get our wine glasses ready, celebrate the 7.0 or lower score, and enjoy the game.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

AAE. I feel the transition will hurt them, though they look freakin' awesome.

charizard1605

You see through nothing! They are wrapped in layers, much like an onion!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] So have I, but my ratings for it won't fall. Well okay, maybe with Black 2/White 2, but that's about it. I agree with the gist of the argument though, it's hard to rate a game like Pokemon (and to mark it down for a similarity in formula every time, simply because, from an objective perspective, they sort of got it utterly right the first time; they can only add to it and refine it after that).charizard1605

For me they are all essentially the same thing so I just judge it based on how much fun I have playing it, the way the cave and forest puzzles are laid out, the creature designs, meaningful attack changes, interface, etc.In my books they are all good games but you don't need to play every gen of pokemon to know what you're missing. You can essentially just skip a gen or 2 and be fine. B/W was a better adventure than D/P though imo even if the metagame for it is stupidly expansive now that dream world abilities exist.

Currently? I just play the campaign. 5-7 years ago? I did meta game stuff. Right now I don't care to go through all the shit it takes just to "start" building a team properly. Not worth it for me. I might EV train, IV/nature breed, egg move etc for a few pokes just to have some friendly matches with friends but not full blown shit any more. I'm past that point. 

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

AAE. I feel the transition will hurt them, though they look freakin' awesome.

lundy86_4

You see through nothing! They are wrapped in layers, much like an onion!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] But the hype touched AAAE. No one will forget. This game will now flop. Harder than The Last of Us. And we all know what that means.charizard1605

Being a bigger flop doesn't mean being more memorable. TLOU was such a "eff you" moment. Cows are the worst for hyping a game ever. This game is just being hyped because the fanbase is just like w/e we'll like it no matter what.

Flops are fun. I like when shit flops, it makes the forum way more interesting :P

But pokemon flopping is like "who cares" :P

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

For me they are all essentially the same thing so I just judge it based on how much fun I have playing it, the way the cave and forest puzzles are laid out, the creature designs, meaningful attack changes, interface, etc.In my books they are all good games but you don't need to play every gen of pokemon to know what you're missing. You can essentially just skip a gen or 2 and be fine. B/W was a better adventure than D/P though imo even if the metagame for it is stupidly expansive now that dream world abilities exist.

ActicEdge

Currently? I just play the campaign. 5-7 years ago? I did meta game stuff. Right now I don't care to go through all the shit it takes just to "start" building a team properly. Not worth it for me. I might EV train, IV/nature breed, egg move etc for a few pokes just to have some friendly matches with friends but not full blown shit any more. I'm past that point. 

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Being a bigger flop doesn't mean being more memorable. TLOU was such a "eff you" moment. Cows are the worst for hyping a game ever. This game is just being hyped because the fanbase is just like w/e we'll like it no matter what.

ActicEdge

Flops are fun. I like when shit flops, it makes the forum way more interesting :P

But pokemon flopping is like "who cares" :P

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Hype is now AAAE. Gg, guys.charizard1605

Lettus celebrate the Flop. It will be glorious/entertaining/whatever. When the review comes out, let's get our wine glasses ready, celebrate the 7.0 or lower score, and enjoy the game.

I play flops! I'll enjoy this one thoroughly, just like I enjoyed Last of Us, DKCR, Fire Emblem, and previous Pokemon games. You know a game that didn't flop? Metroid Other M. And look how that went :o

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Lettus celebrate the Flop. It will be glorious/entertaining/whatever. When the review comes out, let's get our wine glasses ready, celebrate the 7.0 or lower score, and enjoy the game.

 

 

AmayaPapaya

I play flops! I'll enjoy this one thoroughly, just like I enjoyed Last of Us, DKCR, Fire Emblem, and previous Pokemon games. You know a game that didn't flop? Metroid Other M. And look how that went :o

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Ahhh, trying to control the hype so it doesn't flop? Well I see through your devious tactics, sir! I see through them!charizard1605

You see through nothing! They are wrapped in layers, much like an onion!