The Pokemon X and Y Thread: 8/10 Gamespot (Total Number of New Pokemon Leaked)

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charizard1605

That article made me even more worried about Megaevolutions. I really fear they will just do to the balance of the game, I really dont want any blatantly overpowered pokes, Legendaries are already bad enough.

As for declining battles, I assume this wont work for every trainer, doubt team bad guys will just let you slip through.

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Maroxad

That article made me even more worried about Megaevolutions. I really fear they will just do to the balance of the game, I really dont want any blatantly overpowered pokes, Legendaries are already bad enough.

As for declining battles, I assume this wont work for every trainer, doubt team bad guys will just let you slip through.

How in the world is this being hyped AAAE? :lol: I thought I was being generous thinking Gamespot's going to give it AAE. 

Personally though, I bet I'm going to love this game. Already loving most of the newly designed Pokémon and the videos I see look marvelous. 

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bbkkristian

That article made me even more worried about Megaevolutions. I really fear they will just do to the balance of the game, I really dont want any blatantly overpowered pokes, Legendaries are already bad enough.

As for declining battles, I assume this wont work for every trainer, doubt team bad guys will just let you slip through.

Pretty sure quite a few of them will end up in the UBER tier. With Megamewtwo quite possibly being banned.

But they will still roam the random online battles I am bound to have.

I'm pretty sure that skipping trainer battles thing is just for the demo

Shinobishyguy

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I'm pretty sure that skipping trainer battles thing is just for the demo

NationProtector

Even if you were to skip all the trainers, you would be so grossly underleveled, that gym leaders would be able to sweep your team quite possibly without taking any damage.

Same old formula it seems.
Good for old fans and young-uns.

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I'm pretty sure that skipping trainer battles thing is just for the demo

Maroxad

Even if you were to skip all the trainers, you would be so grossly underleveled, that gym leaders would be able to sweep your team quite possibly without taking any damage.

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[QUOTE="NationProtector"] Hopefully, Pokemon would be a very short game otherwise.NationProtector

Even if you were to skip all the trainers, you would be so grossly underleveled, that gym leaders would be able to sweep your team quite possibly without taking any damage.

Any news on which pokemon will be on the different versions? Hype: AAAjake44

[QUOTE="jake44"]Any news on which pokemon will be on the different versions? Hype: AAAcharizard1605

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Even if you were to skip all the trainers, you would be so grossly underleveled, that gym leaders would be able to sweep your team quite possibly without taking any damage.

charizard1605

Pokemon Y looks great but I'm still thinking on whether I should or not buy a 2DS.

Have both games reserved and got my poster : )

Don't mean to interupt but you don't level up by fighting pokemon 10 levels below your own. I have Black/White 1 and 2 and it is possible to use only one for the entire game. It would be boring but very possible and not even that difficult.

People are seriously hyping it AAA here? It'll be lucky to get an 8

People are seriously hyping it AAA here? It'll be lucky to get an 8

Shinobishyguy

Don't mean to interupt but you don't level up by fighting pokemon 10 levels below your own. I have Black/White 1 and 2 and it is possible to use only one for the entire game. It would be boring but very possible and not even that difficult.

EvanTheGamer

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People are seriously hyping it AAA here? It'll be lucky to get an 8

NationProtector

Which is why the title says flop incoming. We're hoping for the best.

I'll probably pick it up sometime down the road. Looks pretty good though.

My hype level currently sits at AA. I can't see it getting anything higher here.

Honestly, I'm not sure I'm happy about that, it takes away the difficulty of the game :Pcharizard1605

You are telling me I cannot do something I clearly did which is annoying the freaking hell out of me. I still have not gotten an actual explanation beyond thinking I am fighting Pkmn 10 levels below me while PROGRESSING the story. Because you are basically telling me it's impossible for my starter to be around 60 at the end game where there is a guy throwing out level 52's. NationProtector

AAAE all the way 

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Even if you were to skip all the trainers, you would be so grossly underleveled, that gym leaders would be able to sweep your team quite possibly without taking any damage.

charizard1605

Pokemon is actually easier the less pokemon you level. And I found Lance In HG/SS I actually got SWEEPED by Lance. Namely due to having pokes that were about 10 levels lower than his pokes.

That being, Lance instagibbed all my pokes before they even got a chance to act.

As for NationProtector. Those battles are the main source of EXP, just try to use one pokemon for trainer battles and use other pokemon for obligatory battles, see how underleveled you will be.

Hyping AAE.

Day one buy for me.

Oh dear lord this game has AAA hype despite the series never getting a AAA score.  The highest-rated game in the series isn't even a main series release but Pokemon Puzzle Challenge at 8.9 (unless you count Yellow, which was just Red and Blue with a Pikachu).  The last Pokemon game scored a 6.5 here.  And this game has AAA hype?

Oh dear lord this game has AAA hype despite the series never getting a AAA score.  The highest-rated game in the series isn't even a main series release but Pokemon Puzzle Challenge at 8.9 (unless you count Yellow, which was just Red and Blue with a Pikachu).  The last Pokemon game scored a 6.5 here.  And this game has AAA hype?

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="NationProtector"] Have you played Pokemon games? Often you can have over powered pokemon with some wild, trainer, and scripted trainer/enemy encounters. By the time you are at the 3rd of the game, you are already having pokemon that are overleveled. When I beat PKMN Black, I pretty much beat it with 1 Pokemon, 2 when they give you the legendary in a cutscene, Diamond/Pearl 3. All those extra battle wasting time as well as all those spaces that have wild PKMN appear is only there for time extension. You take that away the game will be around 4-5 hours long, or less skipping text boxes, and if you already know where to go and what to do.Maroxad

Pokemon is actually easier the less pokemon you level. And I found Lance In HG/SS I actually got SWEEPED by Lance. Namely due to having pokes that were about 10 levels lower than his pokes.

That being, Lance instagibbed all my pokes before they even got a chance to act.

As for NationProtector. Those battles are the main source of EXP, just try to use one pokemon for trainer battles and use other pokemon for obligatory battles, see how underleveled you will be.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You are lying about beating Black with one Pokemon, simply because of the changes they made to the leveling system in that game; it's impossible to do what you could in previous games and beat the game with just one Pokemon, sorry.NationProtector

Pokemon is actually easier the less pokemon you level. And I found Lance In HG/SS I actually got SWEEPED by Lance. Namely due to having pokes that were about 10 levels lower than his pokes.

That being, Lance instagibbed all my pokes before they even got a chance to act.

As for NationProtector. Those battles are the main source of EXP, just try to use one pokemon for trainer battles and use other pokemon for obligatory battles, see how underleveled you will be.

Wild pokemon battles dont net you nearly as much exp as high trainer encounters. While you could reach level 50 or 60, you would have to grind to do so in the first place.

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Pokemon is actually easier the less pokemon you level. And I found Lance In HG/SS I actually got SWEEPED by Lance. Namely due to having pokes that were about 10 levels lower than his pokes.

That being, Lance instagibbed all my pokes before they even got a chance to act.

As for NationProtector. Those battles are the main source of EXP, just try to use one pokemon for trainer battles and use other pokemon for obligatory battles, see how underleveled you will be.

Maroxad

Wild pokemon battles dont net you nearly as much exp as high trainer encounters. While you could reach level 50 or 60, you would have to grind to do so in the first place.

AAAE

Can i trade pokemon from HG to X/Y?Led_poison

Can i trade pokemon from HG to X/Y?Led_poison

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[QUOTE="NationProtector"] I use one pokemon for almost all battles, and usually just use other to wittle health and occasionally switch back. I don;t get how people are saying I can't be around level 60 when the end game in BW throws 52's+ at you. You are basically telling me that I WILL be 10-15 levels under. I highly doubt you can win with pokemon 10 levels lower than the last battle story wise. Hell if you try the Elite four again after.NationProtector

Wild pokemon battles dont net you nearly as much exp as high trainer encounters. While you could reach level 50 or 60, you would have to grind to do so in the first place.

I am not saying that Black and White 1 werent easy. Of course, the game only gets easier if you only use one pokemon.

What I am saying is that exp gain from random encounters will NOT be sufficient push you to the 50s territory unless you grind. Even by the time you reach elite four. I strongly recall my party being level 50ish by the time I beat the game (I used a party of 3). Also, you will only encounter pokemon between level 37-42 in victory road, unless you fish, surf or take advantage of rippling water. On Soul Silver, I played most of the game being underleveled, so I had to make due with proper usage of passives, items, and moves.

Point is: If you were to skip every trainer battle, you would find yourself so underleveled, you might regret doing so.

[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Wild pokemon battles dont net you nearly as much exp as high trainer encounters. While you could reach level 50 or 60, you would have to grind to do so in the first place.

Maroxad

I am not saying that Black and White 1 werent easy. Of course, the game only gets easier if you only use one pokemon.

What I am saying is that exp gain from random encounters will NOT be sufficient push you to the 50s territory unless you grind. Even by the time you reach elite four. I strongly recall my party being level 50ish by the time I beat the game (I used a party of 3). Also, you will only encounter pokemon between level 37-42 in victory road, unless you fish, surf or take advantage of rippling water. On Soul Silver, I played most of the game being underleveled, so I had to make due with proper usage of passives, items, and moves.

Point is: If you were to skip every trainer battle, you would find yourself so underleveled, you might regret doing so.

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[QUOTE="NationProtector"] No I don't. You are telling me I would have to grind? Most experience from trainers and Wild Pokemon go to the one Pokemon I use. If you try to train 4-6 pokemon at once evenly without grinding to much, you will always be around 5 or more levels below certain trainers and gym leaders. You literally just told me it is impossible to be around level 60 by just beating most battles that are in your path with one Pokemon that gets all the EXP at a the end game where you fight Pokemon level 52+. Not to mention you get the legendary at around 50 as well. Which exposes another flaw unless you are saying there is no way to get a pokemon above the level of the Legendary at the end. Also, what's with thinking all you fight is wild pokemon? I think you don't realize how insanly easy Black and White are. At least the first BW I never played BW2.NationProtector

I am not saying that Black and White 1 werent easy. Of course, the game only gets easier if you only use one pokemon.

What I am saying is that exp gain from random encounters will NOT be sufficient push you to the 50s territory unless you grind. Even by the time you reach elite four. I strongly recall my party being level 50ish by the time I beat the game (I used a party of 3). Also, you will only encounter pokemon between level 37-42 in victory road, unless you fish, surf or take advantage of rippling water. On Soul Silver, I played most of the game being underleveled, so I had to make due with proper usage of passives, items, and moves.

Point is: If you were to skip every trainer battle, you would find yourself so underleveled, you might regret doing so.

I never said you did.

You stated that the game would be really short if you could skip every trainer battle. What I am arguing for is that even if you could skip them, you wouldnt want to turn down an opportunity for EXP and money.

Edit: And regarding the difficulty. Pokemon is not quite as hard as something like Shin Megami Tensei. But I did find it more challenging than most modern Square Enix RPGs.