The PS3 is a failure

• Lost Sony their commanding lead from the previous two generations, reducing their marketshare from near monopoly levels to a distant, also ran third place 35%.
• Lost Sony all their profits from the PS1, PS2, and PSP; it was such a moneysink that even now, when it has been making money for nearly three years, it still hasn't recovered most of the intial investment that went into it.
• Cutback on, or failed to deliver, features that were promised and advertised, such as full PS2 backwards compatibility and OtherOS.
• Lost Sony most of their exclusive third party support.
• Led to some of the most massive f*ck ups in gaming history: from the APOCALPS3 in 2010 to the PSN hack and outage in 2011, the PS3 has attracted trouble over its lifetime.
• A lot of the initial problems for Sony came from the PS3's incorporation of The Cell and Blu Ray, twi highly complex technologies that were supposed to future proof the console, and make it a trojan horse for their speedy adoption. The Cell failed, a colossal failure that even Sony and IBM have completely abandoned; Blu Ray fared better, before it began to completely fade away, losing the HD media war to online streaming; those who prefer physial media largely continue to support DVD.
• Its exclusives either failed to deliver- like Gran Turismo 5- failed to materialize- like The Last Guardian, Agent, Final Fantasy Versus XIII- or were poor imitations of more successful games they were trying to ape- Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, inFamous.
• Allegedly such a powerful console powered by the mythical Cell, and the PS3 still struggles to run most multiplat games properly, quite a lot of them simply skip a PS3 port (like The Witcher 2) because of the time and cost involved, or because of the PS3's eccentric architecture (Skyrim DLC). Multiplats that do make it to the PS3 almost always look worse than the Xbox 360 versions.
• Mandatory installs, disc checking, an inconsistent and patchy UI, lack of consistency in the user experience, PSN generally lagging behind Live even now, albeit not by as much, and an unsatisfying controller- tiny things that all cascade in a snowball effect to make the system that much worse.

Honestly, the PS3 is a complete failure. Sony should be ashamed of itself at just how badly it c0cked up this system, and how badly it continues to do so.

if this is the case i will throw away my ps3 today , thanks for letting me know

This thread is a failure,and you TC are a failure..LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

When judged in it's own right, then no, it's not a failure when judged against its predecessors then yes, yes it is.delta3074

More of a disappointment.freedomfreak

So basically ur mad u dont own one? :(

It sure is :roll:.

yes it is, complete and utter failure

dont care i enjoy my ps3.

You've made some bad points that shouldn't be there.

How is Blu-ray one of Sony's mistakes? IMO, it contributed some of its advantages to PS3 exclusives. Since some of them are over 15GB of size, they all come with a single disc.

An inconsistent and patchy UI? I'm sorry, but I hope you're joking. It's the best UI I've ever seen on a console. So sleek, smooth and aesthetically pleasing. Even better at 1080p. The Xbox 360 cannot do HD on their dashboard. It's all pixelated.

Mandatory installs? The Xbox 360 disc swapping says hello.

Unsatisfying controller? Lol. It's the best controller I've ever held.

The only bad thing I see to the PS3 is poor ports of multiplats, but the exclusives are totally outstanding. I think Sony have screwed up with the PS Store, it's now slow, clunky and it takes a long time to boot up. The previous PS Store was much better, along with much quicker boot up.

Dafuq you say?

Stupid thread with mostly stupid points.

the only thing I care about is the fact I can play games with my lady on my ps3. I can do that so Ps3 is not a failure to me.

Hardly a failure when it has the best exclusives.

Did I go back in time? F*ck, I forgot to get the lottery numbers :x

TC is a failure!

When judged in it's own right, then no, it's not a failure when judged against its predecessors then yes, yes it is.delta3074

No it is not!!! It has sold over 70 million and has the best tech and hardware and the most good exclusives and offers free online gaming. That is not a failure in any sense of the word!

yes it is, complete and utter failure

Chris_Williams

meh

some good points, some sh1tty ones...

The PS3 may be a failure for Sony as a product but certainly isnt for gamers (who arent rabbid fanboys offcourse) and thats all that matters to me.

The DualShock 3 is still the best controller on the market imho so I hope you ackowledge the "unsatisfying controller" remark is only your opinion

Then the 360 is also a failure since both have sold relatively the same amount. 71 million to 73 million and the 360 was out a year before.

Then the 360 is also a failure since both have sold relatively the same amount. 71 million to 73 million and the 360 was out a year before.

clr84651

The TC didn't bring up shipped/sold figures.

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Then the 360 is also a failure since both have sold relatively the same amount. 71 million to 73 million and the 360 was out a year before.

lundy86_4

The TC didn't bring up shipped/sold figures.

Then what makes the PS3 more of a failure than 360? PS3 brought bluray, free online, can upgrade to High capacity HDD with any brand for cheap. Built in HDD, great controls, HD gaming, free online gaming, great exclusives, great PSN games. 4p splitscreen gaming. How was it the failure? when it has gone neck and neck with 360 which came out a year ahead? It standardized Bluray High capacity/quality, HDMI and WIFI. 360 added HDMI and WIFI only after PS3 came out and had it. Now Bluray is the format to go with for capacity. I don't get how the PS3 is a failure!

Then what makes the PS3 more of a failure than 360? PS3 brought bluray, free online, can upgrade to High capacity HDD with any brand for cheap. Built in HDD, great controls, HD gaming, free online gaming, great exclusives, great PSN games. 4p splitscreen gaming. How was it the failure? when it has gone neck and neck with 360 which came out a year ahead? It standardized Bluray High capacity/quality, HDMI and WIFI. 360 added HDMI and WIFI only after PS3 came out and had it. Now Bluray is the format to go with for capacity. I don't get how the PS3 is a failure!

clr84651

Certain things noted in the original post. I don't agree with all of it, but the PS3 was a huge problem for Sony this generation. It does great things for gamers, but that wasn't the point being addressed.

Are you having this much trouble understanding on purpose, or is this a case of "lalalalalala, I can't hear you"?

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Then the 360 is also a failure since both have sold relatively the same amount. 71 million to 73 million and the 360 was out a year before.

clr84651

The TC didn't bring up shipped/sold figures.

Then what makes the PS3 more of a failure than 360? PS3 brought bluray, free online, can upgrade to High capacity HDD with any brand for cheap. Built in HDD, great controls, HD gaming, free online gaming, great exclusives, great PSN games. 4p splitscreen gaming. How was it the failure? when it has gone neck and neck with 360 which came out a year ahead? It standardized Bluray High capacity/quality, HDMI and WIFI. 360 added HDMI and WIFI only after PS3 came out and had it. Now Bluray is the format to go with for capacity. I don't get how the PS3 is a failure!

The things TC lists are nitpicking.

The 360 came out without all having standard HDDs built in, massive amounts of RRoD 53% or more, you pay still to play online, no WIFI was built in (a $100 add on) no HD movie player built in (A $200 add on), No HDMI built in, a disc tray that often scratched and ruined games. You can state why the 360 was a failure as much or more than the PS3.

The things TC lists are nitpicking.

The 360 came out without all having standard HDDs built in, massive amounts of RRoD 53% or more, you pay still to play online, no WIFI was built in (a $100 add on) no HD movie player built in (A $200 add on), No HDMI built in, a disc tray that often scratched and ruined games. You can state why the 360 was a failure as much or more than the PS3.

clr84651

Sony let MS release first and at a cheaper pricepoint, but the PS3 had more/better hardware and offered free online gaming. Because people buy the Wii the most does not make it the best console. Your better cars do not outsell the cheaper ones. People are cheap and the recession helped Nintendo and MS do better against Sony than normally would have happened. If Sony would have released at the same time as 360 and been priced the same or maybe $50 more it would have been the 360 way in 3rd place. Because with the PS3 you get more for your money. The PS3 is not a failure, it had somethings not go it's way that made a lot of people not buy it. Sony thought people wanted all they made the PS3 to be. It turned out people went more for the gimmicky Wii.

The things TC lists are nitpicking.

The 360 came out without all having standard HDDs built in, massive amounts of RRoD 53% or more, you pay still to play online, no WIFI was built in (a $100 add on) no HD movie player built in (A $200 add on), No HDMI built in, a disc tray that often scratched and ruined games. You can state why the 360 was a failure as much or more than the PS3.

clr84651

1. Apocalyps3 is nitpicking?
2. PSN hack is nitpicking?
3. Losing the profit they gained from PS1/PS2 is nitpicking?

You need to learn what nitpicking is, and not accuse another of something you are doing yourself. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

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The things TC lists are nitpicking.

The 360 came out without all having standard HDDs built in, massive amounts of RRoD 53% or more, you pay still to play online, no WIFI was built in (a $100 add on) no HD movie player built in (A $200 add on), No HDMI built in, a disc tray that often scratched and ruined games. You can state why the 360 was a failure as much or more than the PS3.

Bruce_Benzing

I nitpicked the 360 to prove a point. The 360 and PS3 had things not go the way they should have and people went more for the gimmicky Wii than either the 360 or PS3. That is changing and more people now buy PS3 and 360.

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The things TC lists are nitpicking.

The 360 came out without all having standard HDDs built in, massive amounts of RRoD 53% or more, you pay still to play online, no WIFI was built in (a $100 add on) no HD movie player built in (A $200 add on), No HDMI built in, a disc tray that often scratched and ruined games. You can state why the 360 was a failure as much or more than the PS3.

lundy86_4

1. Apocalyps3 is nitpicking?
2. PSN hack is nitpicking?
3. Losing the profit they gained from PS1/PS2 is nitpicking?

You need to learn what nitpicking is, and not accuse another of something you are doing yourself. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

YES!

YES!

clr84651

This is like debating with a hamster. Massive issues, are not nitpicking.

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I wholeheartedly agree that the PS3 is a pathetic failure.

I wholeheartedly agree that the PS3 is a pathetic failure.

meatgrinderz

There's atleast 3 threads on the front page with this type of crap, who pissed off the lemmo's? :lol:

PS3 is the best console ever. Period. The Cell; AAAE titles such as Motorstorm, Killzone, Resistance, God of War, etc; Blu-ray, FREE online, and much more make it the best console ever. Not to mention it's innovative Playstation Move and 6-axis controllers. PS4 will continue this trend by introducing a much more powerful Cell 2 processor, 4GB of ram, 1GB dedicated GPU, 6x 3.0 USB ports, and much more. It's never been a better time to be a Sony fan. We will continue our dominance into next gen.PS3FanMan4Life