The PS3 is a failure

Sounds like your just bitter that the your 360 won't be able to play The Last of Us. I understand, I would be jealous if I was in your shoes too.

I agree, PS3 sucks.

But we all can agree that PC gaming is the best.

Mandatory installs? The Xbox 360 disc swapping says hello.

GamerwillzPS

dont care i enjoy my ps3.

gamerdude970

Sounds like your just bitter that the your 360 won't be able to play The Last of Us. I understand, I would be jealous if I was in your shoes too.

ShadowMoses900

I don't use my 360 for movies anyway.;) I only use it for playing awesome video games.

ps3 is only a failure when you compare it to the ps2 and ps1.but if you compare it to the last gen 360 and wii....its a little let down but not a failure. lets not forget that the ps3 still sold over 70 million units. microsoft...70 something million,wii didn't crack 100 mil from what i remembered right? compared that to the previous generation, its not that big of a loss...

and ps3 had quality exclusive titles....and 3 of those games ended up being goty....

Then the 360 is also a failure since both have sold relatively the same amount. 71 million to 73 million and the 360 was out a year before.

clr84651

The Xbox 360 has absouletly CRUSHED Playstation 3 and Sony this generation. It's undeniable, and to deny it you would have to be a fanboy. End of story

dont care i enjoy my ps3.

gamerdude970

The PS3 is not a failure.RulerofGondor

PS3 is indeed not a failure

But...

A Flop?

That I can agree with. Despite it's later on success and resurrection, the OP's point still stand. Falling from 1st place to third. I mean, yeah, Cows can say third place is ok, we got TEH EXCKUSIVE TEH!!!!!! SALES TEH NO COUNTAGA!!!! (even though previous gens, it was all about sales). This has to sting the MOST cause last gen, cows rubbed PS2 1st place in Lems and sheep's collective faces!

Wiping out all the fianancial gains from PS2 onwards and probably not seeing one farking cent in profit while Sony BADLY needs money? Check

Sony arrogance + PS3 really hard to develop environ costing many 3rd party exclusives? Check Check! I would've gotten a PS3 at launch, even if it cost $600 just for GTA IV and FF XIII. But after those two went to the X360.....

All this left Sony on the bottom of the pile instead. So a flop? Definately!

• Lost Sony their commanding lead from the previous two generations, reducing their marketshare from near monopoly levels to a distant, also ran third place 35%.
• Lost Sony all their profits from the PS1, PS2, and PSP; it was such a moneysink that even now, when it has been making money for nearly three years, it still hasn't recovered most of the intial investment that went into it.
• Cutback on, or failed to deliver, features that were promised and advertised, such as full PS2 backwards compatibility and OtherOS.
• Lost Sony most of their exclusive third party support.
• Led to some of the most massive f*ck ups in gaming history: from the APOCALPS3 in 2010 to the PSN hack and outage in 2011, the PS3 has attracted trouble over its lifetime.
• A lot of the initial problems for Sony came from the PS3's incorporation of The Cell and Blu Ray, twi highly complex technologies that were supposed to future proof the console, and make it a trojan horse for their speedy adoption. The Cell failed, a colossal failure that even Sony and IBM have completely abandoned; Blu Ray fared better, before it began to completely fade away, losing the HD media war to online streaming; those who prefer physial media largely continue to support DVD.
• Its exclusives either failed to deliver- like Gran Turismo 5- failed to materialize- like The Last Guardian, Agent, Final Fantasy Versus XIII- or were poor imitations of more successful games they were trying to ape- Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, inFamous.
• Allegedly such a powerful console powered by the mythical Cell, and the PS3 still struggles to run most multiplat games properly, quite a lot of them simply skip a PS3 port (like The Witcher 2) because of the time and cost involved, or because of the PS3's eccentric architecture (Skyrim DLC). Multiplats that do make it to the PS3 almost always look worse than the Xbox 360 versions.
• Mandatory installs, disc checking, an inconsistent and patchy UI, lack of consistency in the user experience, PSN generally lagging behind Live even now, albeit not by as much, and an unsatisfying controller- tiny things that all cascade in a snowball effect to make the system that much worse.

Honestly, the PS3 is a complete failure. Sony should be ashamed of itself at just how badly it c0cked up this system, and how badly it continues to do so.

crippled_ram

Yeah they're are selling at a loss.. I don't know how it works actually. But overall its a great console!

every console after ps2 success is failure.

Evenly spread generation, where sony lost the most but still they re big player. Nr1 selling console ww, which ll sell for another 3,4 years and add another 20/30 millions of ps3.

Most AA,AAA exclusives on meta this gen, with many more coming soon, tlou, gowa, ninokuni, puppeeter, rain, beyond.....each and every ll be aa or aaa.

Ps+ is one ot the best things whole gen and overall idea behind free online play but extra features are paid is perfect. 3 gotys here.

Looking at vita, psn on ps4 ll be amazing. also bUnch of studios, making great games.

They just need proper launch games and affordable ps4 price, they ll more than fine.

overall answer is NO, lol

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"]

• Lost Sony their commanding lead from the previous two generations, reducing their marketshare from near monopoly levels to a distant, also ran third place 35%.
• Lost Sony all their profits from the PS1, PS2, and PSP; it was such a moneysink that even now, when it has been making money for nearly three years, it still hasn't recovered most of the intial investment that went into it.
• Cutback on, or failed to deliver, features that were promised and advertised, such as full PS2 backwards compatibility and OtherOS.
• Lost Sony most of their exclusive third party support.
• Led to some of the most massive f*ck ups in gaming history: from the APOCALPS3 in 2010 to the PSN hack and outage in 2011, the PS3 has attracted trouble over its lifetime.
• A lot of the initial problems for Sony came from the PS3's incorporation of The Cell and Blu Ray, twi highly complex technologies that were supposed to future proof the console, and make it a trojan horse for their speedy adoption. The Cell failed, a colossal failure that even Sony and IBM have completely abandoned; Blu Ray fared better, before it began to completely fade away, losing the HD media war to online streaming; those who prefer physial media largely continue to support DVD.
• Its exclusives either failed to deliver- like Gran Turismo 5- failed to materialize- like The Last Guardian, Agent, Final Fantasy Versus XIII- or were poor imitations of more successful games they were trying to ape- Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, inFamous.
• Allegedly such a powerful console powered by the mythical Cell, and the PS3 still struggles to run most multiplat games properly, quite a lot of them simply skip a PS3 port (like The Witcher 2) because of the time and cost involved, or because of the PS3's eccentric architecture (Skyrim DLC). Multiplats that do make it to the PS3 almost always look worse than the Xbox 360 versions.
• Mandatory installs, disc checking, an inconsistent and patchy UI, lack of consistency in the user experience, PSN generally lagging behind Live even now, albeit not by as much, and an unsatisfying controller- tiny things that all cascade in a snowball effect to make the system that much worse.

Honestly, the PS3 is a complete failure. Sony should be ashamed of itself at just how badly it c0cked up this system, and how badly it continues to do so.

joel_c17

Truth hurts eh?

:lol:

Run along little cow

The only thing it failed to achieve was economic success; took them nearly half a decade to make a profit on the console hardware itself. Stevo_the_gamer

This, for gamers, the PS3 is far from being a failure. And isn't that what matters the most?

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

YES!

lundy86_4

This is like debating with a hamster. Massive issues, are not nitpicking.

Same can be said about the Massive issues the 360 has had. 53%+ RRoD failure rate. Non-standardized system at launch, some had HDD some didn't. No HD movie player built in, a $200 add on, no built in WiFi etc. The fact is the PS3 has way too many good things it's brought to the table to be a failure. Bluray, standard HDDs, built in WiFi and HDMI, free online gaming etc. The PS3 and 360 are better consoles than the Wii by far, yet the Wii sold the most /thread. The Wii is a failure with gimmicky controls that people buy.

[QUOTE="joel_c17"][QUOTE="crippled_ram"]

• Lost Sony their commanding lead from the previous two generations, reducing their marketshare from near monopoly levels to a distant, also ran third place 35%.
• Lost Sony all their profits from the PS1, PS2, and PSP; it was such a moneysink that even now, when it has been making money for nearly three years, it still hasn't recovered most of the intial investment that went into it.
• Cutback on, or failed to deliver, features that were promised and advertised, such as full PS2 backwards compatibility and OtherOS.
• Lost Sony most of their exclusive third party support.
• Led to some of the most massive f*ck ups in gaming history: from the APOCALPS3 in 2010 to the PSN hack and outage in 2011, the PS3 has attracted trouble over its lifetime.
• A lot of the initial problems for Sony came from the PS3's incorporation of The Cell and Blu Ray, twi highly complex technologies that were supposed to future proof the console, and make it a trojan horse for their speedy adoption. The Cell failed, a colossal failure that even Sony and IBM have completely abandoned; Blu Ray fared better, before it began to completely fade away, losing the HD media war to online streaming; those who prefer physial media largely continue to support DVD.
• Its exclusives either failed to deliver- like Gran Turismo 5- failed to materialize- like The Last Guardian, Agent, Final Fantasy Versus XIII- or were poor imitations of more successful games they were trying to ape- Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, inFamous.
• Allegedly such a powerful console powered by the mythical Cell, and the PS3 still struggles to run most multiplat games properly, quite a lot of them simply skip a PS3 port (like The Witcher 2) because of the time and cost involved, or because of the PS3's eccentric architecture (Skyrim DLC). Multiplats that do make it to the PS3 almost always look worse than the Xbox 360 versions.
• Mandatory installs, disc checking, an inconsistent and patchy UI, lack of consistency in the user experience, PSN generally lagging behind Live even now, albeit not by as much, and an unsatisfying controller- tiny things that all cascade in a snowball effect to make the system that much worse.

Honestly, the PS3 is a complete failure. Sony should be ashamed of itself at just how badly it c0cked up this system, and how badly it continues to do so.

RR360DD

Truth hurts eh?

:lol:

Run along little cow

Because anyone can easily point out just as many bad things about the Wii and 360 or more, but the PS3 is the one that's a failure. Good one!

[QUOTE="joel_c17"][QUOTE="crippled_ram"]

• Lost Sony their commanding lead from the previous two generations, reducing their marketshare from near monopoly levels to a distant, also ran third place 35%.
• Lost Sony all their profits from the PS1, PS2, and PSP; it was such a moneysink that even now, when it has been making money for nearly three years, it still hasn't recovered most of the intial investment that went into it.
• Cutback on, or failed to deliver, features that were promised and advertised, such as full PS2 backwards compatibility and OtherOS.
• Lost Sony most of their exclusive third party support.
• Led to some of the most massive f*ck ups in gaming history: from the APOCALPS3 in 2010 to the PSN hack and outage in 2011, the PS3 has attracted trouble over its lifetime.
• A lot of the initial problems for Sony came from the PS3's incorporation of The Cell and Blu Ray, twi highly complex technologies that were supposed to future proof the console, and make it a trojan horse for their speedy adoption. The Cell failed, a colossal failure that even Sony and IBM have completely abandoned; Blu Ray fared better, before it began to completely fade away, losing the HD media war to online streaming; those who prefer physial media largely continue to support DVD.
• Its exclusives either failed to deliver- like Gran Turismo 5- failed to materialize- like The Last Guardian, Agent, Final Fantasy Versus XIII- or were poor imitations of more successful games they were trying to ape- Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, inFamous.
• Allegedly such a powerful console powered by the mythical Cell, and the PS3 still struggles to run most multiplat games properly, quite a lot of them simply skip a PS3 port (like The Witcher 2) because of the time and cost involved, or because of the PS3's eccentric architecture (Skyrim DLC). Multiplats that do make it to the PS3 almost always look worse than the Xbox 360 versions.
• Mandatory installs, disc checking, an inconsistent and patchy UI, lack of consistency in the user experience, PSN generally lagging behind Live even now, albeit not by as much, and an unsatisfying controller- tiny things that all cascade in a snowball effect to make the system that much worse.

Honestly, the PS3 is a complete failure. Sony should be ashamed of itself at just how badly it c0cked up this system, and how badly it continues to do so.

RR360DD

Truth hurts eh?

:lol:

Run along little cow

Your mom's a Pig! Ooh burn!

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Then the 360 is also a failure since both have sold relatively the same amount. 71 million to 73 million and the 360 was out a year before.

LLYNCES

The Xbox 360 has absouletly CRUSHED Playstation 3 and Sony this generation. It's undeniable, and to deny it you would have to be a fanboy. End of story

hmm, last time i checked sony has the best games. and its a million units behing microsoft with its year headstart and 20 million RROD re-buys.kingoflife9

Financial failure? Yes.

As a game system? Depends on who you are.

not being as successful as previous entries =/= complete failure

Lol at all the PS3 fans trying to downplay the failure of the PS3. Everything in the first post is 100% accurate and fact, people that dont see that are the worst consumers in history.Miketheman83

Well it is last place and the Playstation brand lost a crap ton of the market to both of its competitors. Failure may be a little strong but it sure as hell is not a success story for Sony. Sony went from dominating last gen to this gen where Sony is last place. I doubt Sony still recovered all of their loses from the PS3 also. Microsoft never recovered all of the loses from the Xbox during last gen but one company was entering a console business and Sony never recovered all of their loses in a business they used to dominate.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Mandatory installs? The Xbox 360 disc swapping says hello.

hippiesanta

It's an extreme downgrade from PS1 and PS2 godliness. It's been the console of JUST WAIT. I'm glad I have one for exclusives and Blu Ray but the idea of having it as my main console makes me shudder. Those endless long updates, crappy PSN, inferior multiplats, overhyped/delayed/cancelled exclusives, lack of SKYRIM DLC, and controller with crappy triggers, and the huge herd of cows mooing sh!t and lies constantly, nah I'm good on 360!locopatho

People really spend the time to write this drivel down? Wow.

People really spend the time to write this drivel down? Wow.

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="locopatho"]It's an extreme downgrade from PS1 and PS2 godliness. It's been the console of JUST WAIT. I'm glad I have one for exclusives and Blu Ray but the idea of having it as my main console makes me shudder. Those endless long updates, crappy PSN, inferior multiplats, overhyped/delayed/cancelled exclusives, lack of SKYRIM DLC, and controller with crappy triggers, and the huge herd of cows mooing sh!t and lies constantly, nah I'm good on 360!ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="locopatho"]It's an extreme downgrade from PS1 and PS2 godliness. It's been the console of JUST WAIT. I'm glad I have one for exclusives and Blu Ray but the idea of having it as my main console makes me shudder. Those endless long updates, crappy PSN, inferior multiplats, overhyped/delayed/cancelled exclusives, lack of SKYRIM DLC, and controller with crappy triggers, and the huge herd of cows mooing sh!t and lies constantly, nah I'm good on 360!locopatho

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="locopatho"] There was no waiting for 360, it launched in 2005 for a reasonable price with great exclusives, multiplats, controller and online. PS3, had to wait for launch (2007 here) then wait for a reasonable price (lol 600 euros nope) then wait for decent exclusives, wait for more and better multiplat support (still less good games and worse versions then 360), wait for DLC (Skyrim DLC? Nope!), wait for patches to fix broken games (Bethesda and Bayonetta say hi!), wait for games to install/patch/update (can be 20 to 30 minutes PER GAME), wait for PSN to get patched back together after it's hacked/taken down, wait for rumble to be brought back into pads ("It's last gen!" - Sony "O wait here's new pads for 50 euro with rumble, please buy!" - Sony), etc etc etc. I only use the thing for exclusives and it's still a pain, can't even imagine playing multiplats which are 90% of my gaming time on it.locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"] What the hell game has taken you 20-30 minutes to install a patch? I think the longest I ever waited was 5 minutes tops. the MGS4 installs on the other hand got a bit on the rough side, funny you didn't mention those in your attempt to sling dirt. No waiting? what about for quality exclusives. Now that might not effect you personally as you said, you play mostly multi-plats. But I know a lot of people that MS's casual focus has indeed troubled.ReadingRainbow4

Financial failure? Yes.

As a game system? Depends on who you are.

ActicEdge

This

[QUOTE="hippiesanta"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Mandatory installs? The Xbox 360 disc swapping says hello.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="locopatho"] There was no waiting for 360, it launched in 2005 for a reasonable price with great exclusives, multiplats, controller and online. PS3, had to wait for launch (2007 here) then wait for a reasonable price (lol 600 euros nope) then wait for decent exclusives, wait for more and better multiplat support (still less good games and worse versions then 360), wait for DLC (Skyrim DLC? Nope!), wait for patches to fix broken games (Bethesda and Bayonetta say hi!), wait for games to install/patch/update (can be 20 to 30 minutes PER GAME), wait for PSN to get patched back together after it's hacked/taken down, wait for rumble to be brought back into pads ("It's last gen!" - Sony "O wait here's new pads for 50 euro with rumble, please buy!" - Sony), etc etc etc. I only use the thing for exclusives and it's still a pain, can't even imagine playing multiplats which are 90% of my gaming time on it.locopatho

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="locopatho"] It was one of the Motorstorm games, either the second or third one. It's not an attempt to "sling dirt", it's my experience with the console, it's been rubbish. 360 got good exclusives every year it's been out. If you say NO MULTIPLATS and then say NO XBLA and then say NO KINECT and then say NO HALO/GEARS/FORZA/FABLE then you might struggle. But that'd be your problem, not the systems.locopatho

I don't really mind long installs and patches if its optional. What I hate is everytime I come home from break or holiday and want to play a PS3 game online with one of my friends I have to sit through several dozen minutes of BS mandatory installs. Its just utterly frustrating.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"] What the hell game has taken you 20-30 minutes to install a patch? I think the longest I ever waited was 5 minutes tops. the MGS4 installs on the other hand got a bit on the rough side, funny you didn't mention those in your attempt to sling dirt. No waiting? what about for quality exclusives. Now that might not effect you personally as you said, you play mostly multi-plats. But I know a lot of people that MS's casual focus has indeed troubled.ermacness