Did the streak kick off after BF4 was 900p ?
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@MonsieurX: the beginning of the following sentence, "There are two explanations to explain why The Order is 1080p".
And 200p of black bars
@MK-Professor: Where did I say its the same thing?
2:40:1 aspect ratio allows more detail and focus on the horizontal plane, "cinemascope". Black bars or not, there is no upscaling or stretching of pixels on your 1080p tv. It is a 1080p image.
@MK-Professor: Where did I say its the same thing?
2:40:1 aspect ratio allows more detail and focus on the horizontal plane, "cinemascope". Black bars or not, there is no upscaling or stretching of pixels on your 1080p tv. It is a 1080p image.
I think I agree with you. For now on I will play all my games at 2560x400 with black bars instead of 2560x1440.
TRIPLE WIN !!! cinemascope + black bars + only a $40 GPU to max my games at this low rez.
@GrenadeLauncher:
You're a fu**** moron. I've officially lost my patience with you. I assume you're talking about Trials fusion. Watch the vid again you sh*tstain it doesn't disappear.
9/11 trutherism style stuff going on here. Cry harder, lemming.
So... it's the devs when it the news is negative for the PS4, but it's hardware when news is negative for the XB1?
Lets see demanding games like FPS run like sh** on xbox one,but mediocre games run better on xbox one.?
Come on is there reason other that developer messing up for this game to not be 1080p on PS4.? Really.? Even the PC version has lower quality effects compare to consoles,so what is your excuse for that.?
it's not always for the positive reasons you might anticipate. In fact, there are a number of effects that either appear to be pared back or removed on PC.
So, it's perhaps unsurprising that once again we find camera and object blur are dialled back, while screen-space ambient occlusion seems to be entirely absent. Interestingly, checking the game's 'pcconfig.txt' file shows that SSAO is enabled by default, even though there is little evidence to suggest it in practice. Some ambient occlusion is baked onto the textures, though, which means that environments still benefit from a little indirect shadowing and the extra depth this provides.
Curiously, shadows are rendered in a lower resolution than on consoles too, and there are also a few instances where certain details appear scaled back on the PC - such as the reduction in the level of grass located in a few locations.
You either admit this game is mess up or you can start to argue how the xbox one and PS4 are more powerful than PC to have better effects and explain why the PC version lack SSAO ...
lol black bars =\= 1080p
You don't get 1080p of CONTENT on screen,quit crying about it
Yeah that mean 90% of Blu-ray movies aren't 1080p..lol
It is 1080p the difference here is the RATIO which apparently you buffoons don't know anything about,to render the Order without black bar at 2.40:1 the resolution most be 2592x1080...
I will ask you a serious question. Why I am playing all my games at 2560x1440 and not at 2560x400 with black bars, if it is the same thing as you said?
You can be this dumb,are you really comparing 2560x1440 with 2560x400.?
Really it that the best you could do.?
Lear a thing or 2 about aspect ratios and the come back,16:9 is not the same as 2.40:1 so yeah to fill the screen at 2.40:1 without blackbars you need more freaking pixels...
Basically or the same reason you will not run 2560x1440 in a 4:3 ratio..
And 200p of black bars
Doesn't change the fact that the game is not the same spec ratio other games,and that is not been upscale,like Blu-ray movies with black bars this is consider 1080p want to cry go complain to movie houses like Sony,Universal,MGM and all over who had done this since 2006 and call the movies 1080p..lol.
Considering the company you use to defend make consoles with old ass hardware that some times can't even beat old ass hardware that came 7 years before it,we all feel find no wonder you are such a troll..lol
I think I agree with you. For now on I will play all my games at 2560x400 with black bars instead of 2560x1440.
TRIPLE WIN !!! cinemascope + black bars + only a $40 GPU to max my games at this low rez.
You are grasping badly go play your games in 2560x1440 in 4:3 is you think aspect ratios means nothing..hahahhaaa
What a joke..
lol black bars =\= 1080p
You don't get 1080p of CONTENT on screen,quit crying about it
Yeah that mean 90% of Blu-ray movies aren't 1080p..lol
It is 1080p the difference here is the RATIO which apparently you buffoons don't know anything about,to render the Order without black bar at 2.40:1 the resolution most be 2592x1080...
I will ask you a serious question. Why I am playing all my games at 2560x1440 and not at 2560x400 with black bars, if it is the same thing as you said?
You can be this dumb,are you really comparing 2560x1440 with 2560x400.?
Really it that the best you could do.?
Lear a thing or 2 about aspect ratios and the come back,16:9 is not the same as 2.40:1 so yeah to fill the screen at 2.40:1 without blackbars you need more freaking pixels...
Basically or the same reason you will not run 2560x1440 in a 4:3 ratio..
The game is rendered at 1920x800 to save gpu power deal with it.
@MK-Professor: Really? Because the devs stated its an artistic choice. Im glad to see you are more in the know than the people developing the game.
What other secrets can you share?
The game is rendered at 1920x800 to save gpu power deal with it.
The game isn't upscale you moron and they already claim the game could run at 1080p but they decide it to be that way,the game has been say from day freaking 1 that it was chasing a cinematic look the aspect ratio alone proves it.
Now you can't pretend all you want what you want fact is blu-ray movies are the same in fact the majority of blue-ray movies are the same now go start war and claim blu-ray isn't 1080p...lol
Learn a thing or 2 about aspect ratios then argue..
2.40:1 is not the same as 16:9 without black bar it does require more pixels than 1920x1080.
http://tay.kotaku.com/why-the-order-1886-is-1080p-and-not-800p-1518902908 @GoldenElementXL: @MonsieurX: @MK-Professor: Lolz I guess blue ray movies aren't 1080p either.
Bu bu bu the black bars...silence scrubs
lol black bars =\= 1080p
You don't get 1080p of CONTENT on screen,quit crying about it
@tormentos
I hate turn turn your worlds upside down but if a Blu Ray is "letterboxed" then it isn't 1080p either.
From CNET
"The resolution on the Blu-ray disc is "1080p" in that it has 1,920x1,080 pixels. However, the top and bottom letterbox bars are just black pixels. A modern 2.4:1 movie, then, has an active picture area of 1,920x800."
http://www.cnet.com/news/are-letterboxed-movies-really-1080p/
I don't understand how people are confusing aspect ratio and 1080p. A 1920v1080 TV has 1920 horizontal lines and 1080 vertical lines of pixels. If the movie or game does not fill up the vertical lines then it is not 1080p. And your TV does not magically shrink it's pixels to make a 2.4:1 movie 1080p.
@GoldenElementXL: You realize your own link doesn't even agree with you?
I swear people on these forums are slow sometimes.
@tormentos
I hate turn turn your worlds upside down but if a Blu Ray is "letterboxed" then it isn't 1080p either.
From CNET
"The resolution on the Blu-ray disc is "1080p" in that it has 1,920x1,080 pixels. However, the top and bottom letterbox bars are just black pixels. A modern 2.4:1 movie, then, has an active picture area of 1,920x800."
http://www.cnet.com/news/are-letterboxed-movies-really-1080p/
I don't understand how people are confusing aspect ratio and 1080p. A 1920v1080 TV has 1920 horizontal lines and 1080 vertical lines of pixels. If the movie or game does not fill up the vertical lines then it is not 1080p. And your TV does not magically shrink it's pixels to make a 2.4:1 movie 1080p.
Hahaha dude you just confirmed is 1080p did you read what he is saying.?
The black bars are just black pixels but are pixels never the damn less,it is rendering 1920x1080p the image inside the blackbars is 1920x800 but the entire scenes is been render and there are 1920x1080p the letter box are just black pixels this is why 1080p movies which are letter box are still call 1080p.
How can you get the complete opposite from what he is saying is beyond logic he is telling you him sell that 1920x1080p are been render only the black par are black pixels..
The image doesn't get upscale like Ryse or any upscale game on xbox one which is why not get any artifacts or blur from blowing the pixels up.
@MK-Professor: Really? Because the devs stated its an artistic choice. Im glad to see you are more in the know than the people developing the game.
What other secrets can you share?
They get paid by sony to hid the fact that ps4 is a weak hardware, so they saying lies like artistic choice a BS like that, it is very clear what is the reason behind that, and that is to get more performance.
The game is rendered at 1920x800 to save gpu power deal with it.
The game isn't upscale you moron and they already claim the game could run at 1080p but they decide it to be that way,the game has been say from day freaking 1 that it was chasing a cinematic look the aspect ratio alone proves it.
Now you can't pretend all you want what you want fact is blu-ray movies are the same in fact the majority of blue-ray movies are the same now go start war and claim blu-ray isn't 1080p...lol
Learn a thing or 2 about aspect ratios then argue..
2.40:1 is not the same as 16:9 without black bar it does require more pixels than 1920x1080.
1920x800 = 1536000 pixels
1920x1080 = 2073600 pixels
2073600 > 1536000
deal with it.
@tormentos
I hate turn turn your worlds upside down but if a Blu Ray is "letterboxed" then it isn't 1080p either.
From CNET
"The resolution on the Blu-ray disc is "1080p" in that it has 1,920x1,080 pixels. However, the top and bottom letterbox bars are just black pixels. A modern 2.4:1 movie, then, has an active picture area of 1,920x800."
http://www.cnet.com/news/are-letterboxed-movies-really-1080p/
I don't understand how people are confusing aspect ratio and 1080p. A 1920v1080 TV has 1920 horizontal lines and 1080 vertical lines of pixels. If the movie or game does not fill up the vertical lines then it is not 1080p. And your TV does not magically shrink it's pixels to make a 2.4:1 movie 1080p.
Hahaha dude you just confirmed is 1080p did you read what he is saying.?
The black bars are just black pixels but are pixels never the damn less,it is rendering 1920x1080p the image inside the blackbars is 1920x800 but the entire scenes is been render and there are 1920x1080p the letter box are just black pixels this is why 1080p movies which are letter box are still call 1080p.
How can you get the complete opposite from what he is saying is beyond logic he is telling you him sell that 1920x1080p are been render only the black par are black pixels..
The image doesn't get upscale like Ryse or any upscale game on xbox one which is why not get any artifacts or blur from blowing the pixels up.
Did you read what he is saying? You are ignoring the "active picture area" part of the statement. You know, the part you decided not to bold. If you want to count black, unused pixels to prove your argument then fine. I won't debate with someone that ignores something like that. That's borderline insanity. Yes you are right though that The Order and Blu Ray movies are not upscaling anything, hence the 1920x800. I never said it was upscaling.
The order is 1080p by the definition of 1080p which is 1080 horizontal lines. 1 x 1080 would still be 1080p. If you want to describe a specific resolution within 1080p then you will have to specify the exact resolution including the vertical lines, or better still state total number of pixels.
@MK-Professor: Really? Because the devs stated its an artistic choice. Im glad to see you are more in the know than the people developing the game.
What other secrets can you share?
They get paid by sony to hid the fact that ps4 is a weak hardware, so they saying lies like artistic choice a BS like that, it is very clear what is the reason behind that, and that is to get more performance.
Yeah tell that to Digital foundry which had to turn off TressFX on the R270 which is stronger than the PS4 because the damn frames would be cut from 60 to 28 FPS..
Limitations ere in all damn PC can you run Crysis 3 4K at 60 FPS on your GPU.?
No.? Oh i get it your PC crap..There is always something better.
The PS4 is a damn $399 dollar console a $400 dollar PC get you sh** you can even run Crysis 2 mid setting on a damn walmart PC that cost $450 or $500.
So talking sh** about about the PS4 been week is a joke,at least those $399 will get you way more than you will get on a walmart $500 PC.
1920x800 = 1536000 pixels
1920x1080 = 2073600 pixels
2073600 > 1536000
deal with it.
"The resolution on the Blu-ray disc is "1080p" in that it has 1,920x1,080 pixels. However, the top and bottom letterbox bars are just black pixels.
Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
Black pixels still 1080p what is 1920px800 is the image inside the blackbars the full image still is 1920x1080p...lol
a third of the screen is redundant. black bars have no place in a videogame. people need to stop with the "teh cinematic" excuse shit.
if it ships like that, expect it to get panned for it. also no multiplayer in a third person squad based cover shooter = ridiculous.
STFU noob..
Funny enough the GC version look better regardless of the PS2 version been the one with true 16:9 ratio...
Not all fu**ng games have to be the same sh** you lemming are sad you want the same sh** all damn eternity so you like games certain way and that is how it is suppose to be,no wonder MS fu** up so much..
@GoldenElementXL: What exactly are we fighting with her about? We know the game runs at x800, with the the rest of the image being pixelated black bars.
You are more idiotic by the post.
@MK-Professor: Really? Because the devs stated its an artistic choice. Im glad to see you are more in the know than the people developing the game.
What other secrets can you share?
They get paid by sony to hid the fact that ps4 is a weak hardware, so they saying lies like artistic choice a BS like that, it is very clear what is the reason behind that, and that is to get more performance.
Yeah tell that to Digital foundry which had to turn off TressFX on the R270 which is stronger than the PS4 because the damn frames would be cut from 60 to 28 FPS..
Limitations ere in all damn PC can you run Crysis 3 4K at 60 FPS on your GPU.?
No.? Oh i get it your PC crap..There is always something better.
The PS4 is a damn $399 dollar console a $400 dollar PC get you sh** you can even run Crysis 2 mid setting on a damn walmart PC that cost $450 or $500.
So talking sh** about about the PS4 been week is a joke,at least those $399 will get you way more than you will get on a walmart $500 PC.
1920x800 = 1536000 pixels
1920x1080 = 2073600 pixels
2073600 > 1536000
deal with it.
"The resolution on the Blu-ray disc is "1080p" in that it has 1,920x1,080 pixels. However, the top and bottom letterbox bars are just black pixels.
Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
Black pixels still 1080p what is 1920px800 is the image inside the blackbars the full image still is 1920x1080p...lol
Still mad that a HD7850 play games with the same performance like the ps4 do?
order is rendered at 1920x800 not at 1920x1080 deal with it.
@GoldenElementXL: What exactly are we fighting with her about? We know the game runs at x800, with the the rest of the image being pixelated black bars.
You are more idiotic by the post.
First off "her" is a buff dude who is the founder of the studio making The Order 1886.
Second the founder of a game uses "x800" (meaning 800p) and Cows argue the game is 1080p (x1080). So it's Cows vs the Dev of the game in question.
Still mad that a HD7850 play games with the same performance like the ps4 do?
order is rendered at 1920x800 not at 1920x1080 deal with it.
Oh please a PC with a 7850 cost more than the PS4..hahaha and in 3 more years it would have problems running games should i remember you how the 7800GTX was not match for the PS3 even that its was actually stronger.?
1920x1080p the game isn't upscale now go play your games in 2560x1440 on 4:3 since you know so much about aspect ratios..hahahaha
Did you read what he is saying? You are ignoring the "active picture area" part of the statement. You know, the part you decided not to bold. If you want to count black, unused pixels to prove your argument then fine. I won't debate with someone that ignores something like that. That's borderline insanity. Yes you are right though that The Order and Blu Ray movies are not upscaling anything, hence the 1920x800. I never said it was upscaling.
No i not ignoring an in fact search my post on this topic on other threads i have say the same,the image is 1080p what is 1920x800 is the image inside the letterbox but the image still rendering 1920x1080p the black par are just black pixels but are PIXELS never the less,so the image isn't upscale it is presented to you like a blu-ray movie is and carrying the same ratio 2.40:1 which prove it even further.
The game developers of this game already stated that the game could have been 1080p without black bars they just dropped 4XMSAA hell changing it for less demanding one like the one on Infamous or Ryse,but for what they were aiming that was what serve them best,this was reveal last year,since when resolution are lock year before launch unless having a target which is shooting for.
Ghost was confirmed to be 1080p and downgrade on xbox one,Ryse was say to be 1080p as well with 150k polygon characters and was latter down to 900p with 85K characters,now both of this games were confirmed by E3 to be 1080p but when the final line was inside they both were downgraded,that is a hardware problem or limitations.
The order was con firmed to be cinematic since the go,and on a 2.40:1 ratio,800p with black bars just like movies,now if the game can't hit this and gets lower it was a limitation,if the game stay and deliver it was plan.
It's broken since the arrival of 900pStation. The subHD MP of Crapzone, BF4, The Order 800p and looks like the Witcher 3 will also be 900p.
And LOL @ achieving supersampling from 1280 to 1080 on Lego the Hobbit. Might as well add Pong to the list.
So its 900pstation because 5% of all PS4 games are not native 1080p? Good job at sounding like a blind hater!
Ooo someone's mad that I said something mad about a game on a console eltormo doesn't own lol.
The black bars weren't present on the Resident evil 4 version i played on PS2. It didn't need them.
No game needs those black bars, you are lying to yourself. even in games where they are used for cut-scenes they are not necessary.
I know, next car i buy, i will black out the windows in the rear since i never sit there and it will look better from the outside..
Hahaha i owned your sorry ass again...butbutbut black bars have not place in video games,there where here before you were a lemming..hahahha
Oh wait you didn't know it because you played the PS2 version,since i owned back then all 3,i knew what the difference was since i finish it first on GC when it came out as an exclusive..lol
See you just proved my point so because i don't like something it should no be period..hahahahaha
Yeah that is a great analogy specially since many vehicles in US rely solely on side mirrors and you can't see sh** by rear view mirror because there are no windows or something is blocking your view...
@tormentos: Just to be clear I was never saying the game was 800p as an insult. Right now what we have is people who believe that the active screen area is the resolution of the game vs the total area of the screen is the resolution. I know the game isn't upscaled like the majority of the Xbox One library and the pixel density isn't changed. I just don't agree with counting the black bars. If my TV is displaying an image on 800 of it's 1080 vertical lines it's not 1080p. If a game isn't displaying on all 1440 of my monitors pixels then it's not 1440p. If you want to count them in order to claim ownage against the other consoles go ahead. Knock yourself out. "Resolution Gate" is pointless anyways. None of this matters is The Order 1886 isn't good. I hope it is though.
Still mad that a HD7850 play games with the same performance like the ps4 do?
order is rendered at 1920x800 not at 1920x1080 deal with it.
Oh please a PC with a 7850 cost more than the PS4..hahaha and in 3 more years it would have problems running games should i remember you how the 7800GTX was not match for the PS3 even that its was actually stronger.?
1920x1080p the game isn't upscale now go play your games in 2560x1440 on 4:3 since you know so much about aspect ratios..hahahaha
A HD7850 will always play games with similar graphics and performance like the ps4.
Ohh, order is 1920x800 deal with it.
@GoldenElementXL: What exactly are we fighting with her about? We know the game runs at x800, with the the rest of the image being pixelated black bars.
You are more idiotic by the post.
Then calling the game a 1080p game is stupid, you don't get 1080p of content on screen considering the black bars
b-b-b-but it's not upscaled!!11
So... it's the devs when it the news is negative for the PS4, but it's hardware when news is negative for the XB1?
Lets see demanding games like FPS run like sh** on xbox one,but mediocre games run better on xbox one.?
Come on is there reason other that developer messing up for this game to not be 1080p on PS4.? Really.? Even the PC version has lower quality effects compare to consoles,so what is your excuse for that.?
And how would you know El tormented? You have neither an XOne or a PS4. Are you watching videos again or asking your so called friends? I just can't seem to grasp your reason for putting something down or praising something you don't play or own. You're full of sooooo much fail kid.
And how would you know El tormented? You have neither an XOne or a PS4. Are you watching videos again or asking your so called friends? I just can't seem to grasp your reason for putting something down or praising something you don't play or own. You're full of sooooo much fail kid.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-battlefield-4-next-gen-face-off
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-ghosts-next-gen-face-off
Booommm...
Now i ask you how does owning a PS4 and xbox one actually change in anything this ^^ results...lol
Does BF4 run at 1080p natively on your xbox one because you own one.? Can you prove DF been wrong about the game been 720p while been 10 FPS slower than the PS4 version.? Does the PS4 version turn 720p because you own and xbox one.?
Now now is time to back up your crap proof that Digital Foundry is wrong and that the xbox one runs BF4 as fast and the same resolution as the PS4...
Ill wait while you gather those irrefutable proof from your xbox one..lol
It's broken since the arrival of 900pStation. The subHD MP of Crapzone, BF4, The Order 800p and looks like the Witcher 3 will also be 900p.
And LOL @ achieving supersampling from 1280 to 1080 on Lego the Hobbit. Might as well add Pong to the list.
So its 900pstation because 5% of all PS4 games are not native 1080p? Good job at sounding like a blind hater!
Yeah and the 900pStation already has a library of 100 games, right? (Yeah, I'm not including the small scale indie titles) Fact is every demanding game is cutting corners and it's been only six months since its arrival. The road is only downhill from here, my friend.
And I can bet that the Order won't have 4x MSAA as the devs are claiming it will. Cows are free to quote me on it.
Did we need a thread on this.
Also
Nothing to discuss? Not really a systems wars thread at all.
Lock it doooown
I do not know if the facts of the thread are correct. However, if they are: are you serious? Cows flood SW with 1080p articles. How is a reversal of fortune not thread-worthy?
Its not about cow vs lem, I am a lem. Its just boring. No discussion here.
@MK-Professor: Where did I say its the same thing?
2:40:1 aspect ratio allows more detail and focus on the horizontal plane, "cinemascope". Black bars or not, there is no upscaling or stretching of pixels on your 1080p tv. It is a 1080p image.
Lol, I doubt he realizes you can buy projectors with lenses that can display a 2.4:1 aspect ratio, and then there's no black bars.
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