the ps4 1080p streak is broken

Because you haven't actually experienced them for yourself. You're going by what other are saying. Perhaps the performance isn't great for them but just fine for someone else. You wouldn't know until you tried but you can't because you can't afford either console.

Does that matter you loser? I have BF4 on my PC and I play it at over 60fps on ultra settings.

Again does being slower than PS4 mean it's runs like crap? Are you trying to say the PS4 edition also runs like crap since 10fps is really nothing.

Why don't you back up your claim where I said Digital foundry is wrong loser? I said how would YOU know the games run like crap when you've neither played/owned or seen them in person. You've only seen videos of games which is the WORST way to judge them by.

You keep waiting moron because I never made any such claim.

When you have to run the game through software to find the differences, then the differences are minor...

blu ray are a static content. this is about a dynamic content - rendering of a 3d video game scene.

technically, they are limiting the size of the rendered scene from 1920x1080 (2073600 pixels) to 1920x800 (1536000 pixels).

on a 1080p television, the order 1886 will leave 537600 pixels unutilised, that's about 25.9%.

the game renders in 1920x800 - that's not enough to be considered 1080P.

if the game were in 1920x1 - "there's no upscaling", but the aspect ratio is different, and there would be unutilised pixels all the same. do you consider that 1080P? If not, why not, when you consider 1920x800 1080P?

My reading comprehension is fine. It causes pain in the ass of sony drones as soon as someone mentions how pathetically weak the 900pStation is. So, yes go and see a physician for your butthurt.

@spitfire-six: bottlenecks, background programs slowing your system down, windows

Okay, am I having a stroke or something?

Or is 1920x1280 BETTER than 1920x1080?

Isn't getting super-sampled down to 1080p technically an accomplishment on PS4, since the X1 version is not exceeding 1080p?

So the XB1 brings a title out in 1080p, and the PS4 super samples Down to 1080p... and XBox fans call that a win?

Take what you can get, I suppose.

So... it's the devs when it the news is negative for the PS4, but it's hardware when news is negative for the XB1?

Fail. Enjoy paying for online. Being milked for money with last gen games, having sub HD resolutions, having your information stolen on PSN and Xbox Live, having a platform that stagnates the whole generation, having a subpar VR iteration. Need I go on?

That is totally irrelevant you asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

Dude many sites say the difference can been seen by just watching the games on normal screen,the xbox one version of 720p games look blur because of the blown pixels,games like BF4 have more jaggies on xbox one,and frame drop on xbox one are more abundant and that is something you notice just from looking the machines the use is to actually account to what the difference amount dude,but the difference is easy to see.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2013/06/17/rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one

Remember this which you people deny and tag as just a rumor,and then pulled Activision early claims of 1080p for the xbox one.?

hahaha....

I think that leak came from inside Activision...lol

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

butbutbut the 900p...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Yeah, but you cows act as though the difference is generational, when it's minor. Does the PS4 version look better? Yes. Does it look so much better that it is a big PS4 advantage? No. It's a minor advantage. The games play the same, sound the same, but have different resolutions. That's it.

Isn't that the way lemming acted last gen when they got 100 more lines of resolution on Call of duty and 3 more frames.?

But now that is double the resolution or double the frames or 50% resolution and 20 % frames is not big..lol

We all know how on the spot are you whole "" minor"" arguments..

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

Fail. Enjoy paying for online. Being milked for money with last gen games, having sub HD resolutions, having your information stolen on PSN and Xbox Live, having a platform that stagnates the whole generation, having a subpar VR iteration. Need I go on?

Fail. SO I didn't pay $120 a month for a dedicated server for my clan? Im on Xbox Live not PSN. Your more prone to identity theft with P2P connections. If stagnation means not spending 200+ on a video card, and additional 100+ on cooling etc. Again I have been a PC gamer for a while don't paint a picture that doesn't exist.

That is totally irrelevantyou asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

It's completely relevant. You can't possibly know for yourself unless you've actually played them.

Do I care what XOne BF4 runs at compared to the PS4? How does that have anything to do with it running well or not? So you're trying to say if it doesn't run as well as the PS4 version, then it runs like crap? You truly are a moron.

This is not a comparison to the PS4 version dumbass. YOU made the claim that all FPS games run like crap on the XOne, not the games run like crap compared to PS4 versions. Always trying to move those goal post El Tormented.

WTF did you just say? Seriously, have someone else type shit out for you.

Experiencing the 2 consoles gives your opinions validity. Since you own neither AND you haven't touched them, then YOUR opinions are nothing more than OTHERS opinions. YOU don't have your own and should stfu when it comes to talking about either of it's games.

So in other words, you can't form your own opinion so you have no choice but to go by what someone else says. Gotcha.....you have got to be the most pathetic poster here. Let's also add that the XOne version of BF4 looks just about identical to the PS4 version.

Care to find that quote where I said that loser? I said the game doesn't look interesting to me dumbass and I don't need to play the game to find no interest in it. You make comments about games you haven't played like "game sucks, it runs like crap ect...ect..." something you've have to experience before you could make judgments like those.

Keep fighting the good fight El Tormented. One day mommy will get you that PS4 you covet so bad

Once again prove me wrong how does you owning an xbox one change Digital Foundry test how.?

Now don't spin and just answer how you owning an xbox one make those FPS comparison invalid or not true..lol

Really so just by looking at video you find if a game is interesting or not.? but some how you can't do that with graphics.?

MmMMMM......

By the way do you own a PS4.? So your mom doesn't want to buy you one either..hahahaha

Why do I need to prove you wrong when I asked how YOU would know anything ran like crap when YOU haven't experienced it for yourself? I made no claims about DF, I talked about YOU and YOUR claims without 1st hand knowledge.

You have selective reading problem or something? I think you do because you just seem to choose the most random shit to talk about. How is what I said have ANYTHING to do with YOU having 1st hand knowledge of a game running like crap when YOU haven't played it at all? Where did I make ANY comparisons to the PS4 version?

Yes, by looking at a video I can make a judgment on the game looking interesting to me or not. I don't have to play the game to say it doesn't LOOK interesting. Did I say the game sucked? Did I say the game ran like shit? NO, I said it doesn't LOOK interesting just like if I saw a movie preview I could make the same claim. Do I have to SEE the movie to say it doesn't interest me? Seriously El Tormented, you have mental issues. Please go seek help

No I don't but then again I'm not running around praising it AND it's games to no end, unlike you El Tormented. I can at least say I do own ONE of the 8th gen systems, can you?

I'm still waiting for all that evidence you claim you had of me being a hypocrite. Should I continue holding my breath El Tormented or are you just going to admit that you're wrong.......again

Why are you bragging about overpaying for shit

Another meltdown spin...lol

No you are doubting my opinion which is based on DF findings..lol

And you whole argument is base around the fact that i don't the consoles,it doesn't change anything me owning the consoles or not is irrelevant as it would not change DF statements in anything,just like you owning both would not either you can claim it runs flawlessly without a drop in frames while DF evidence still there and would prove you wrong..

Is my opinion vs yours, i use DF as base and they talk about the difference in both versions,regardless of what you think hell regardless of you thinking that the difference is minor the difference is what it is,you owning and xbox one change nothing is a stupid excuse you bring to try to counter my argument about the PS4 having more and higher rated games,which by the way is based on Meta.

So regardless again of me owning it doesn't change Meta scores or the quantity of games release period.

But i can judge graphics from videos because some how i am blind right.?

Funny enough When i first saw Bioshock i wasn't interested,but when i friend of mine told me to give it a try i was in shock to how great the game was..

Judging games for look isn't different from what you admit to do just now.

Did you play the game for 1 hour to see how interesting it was or not.? No...

Ok themm....

By the way swing by the NPD thread where you are quoted making a prediction of Titanfall moving consoles,thing you say you never did...

hahaha Hypocrite...

Did you not read the argument? There is no indication of bragging. My point I was getting across was that if you are claiming console gamers are being milked for money lets look into the cost of PC gaming. I stated my values based on experience. And what part of any of that is over paying?

@lostrib: That is more so if you go with liquid cooling. Im sorry ill be more specific $45-95 for heat sink and cpu fan. That better?

@lostrib: You would use that on a high end gaming rig built to run the highest resolution possible?

Well that's a whole different beast.

It's nice to have a new clown around to laugh at. Thank you for filling that void.

That is totally irrelevant you asked me how do i know,and i answer you is time you do the same,does BF4 runs at the same speed and resolution on xbox one just because you own one.?

Does owning an xbox one and BF4 change the results does experiencing it for your self make the game gain parity.?

Nice spin,does the xbox one version just because you own it fix the limitations it has.?

Answer and stop spinning....

You are the one who claimed that was using other person opinion,so if you don't take that opinion as been right yeah your are doubting it or denying it,is not the first time i pasted Digital foundry all over your face and you just hold to the fact that i don't own a PS4 which you don't either from what i know.

So once again does owning any of the 2 consoles change the end results yes or no.?

No i go by DF which was the xbox one version is 720p with worse AA,and 10 FPS slower across the board,now prove them wrong or me for that matter since i am using their opinion..

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... Say so the one who say Infamous had playschool color from watching a video...hahaha

Hypocrite...

Dude many sites say the difference can been seen by just watching the games on normal screen,the xbox one version of 720p games look blur because of the blown pixels,games like BF4 have more jaggies on xbox one,and frame drop on xbox one are more abundant and that is something you notice just from looking the machines the use is to actually account to what the difference amount dude,but the difference is easy to see.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2013/06/17/rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rumor-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-games-will-be-visible-on-day-one

Remember this which you people deny and tag as just a rumor,and then pulled Activision early claims of 1080p for the xbox one.?

hahaha....

I think that leak came from inside Activision...lol

No they are not rendering at a 2.40:1 ratio without freaking black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080p don't you get it,is the ratio of the game what make it have those black bars,just like Blu-ray movies which are 800p because they are presented in that ratio.

The game is rendering 1920x1080p just the black part are black pixels,but they are pixels never the less,is like using 1920x1080p pixels to draw a completely black screen,just because you can't see anything but black doesn't mean the PIXELS aren't been render..

Blu-ray movies are tag as 1080p period and many have that ratio and 800p,the fact is those pixels still are render.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

butbutbut the 900p...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Another sony drone who can't handle the truth. Your choice, if you want to live with your pain in the ass. I guess, too much dick riding sony can do that.

the answer to your question is simple.......

because their argument has been that "anything sub 1080p cannot be considered graphics king".....so this game (which looks nice and is being hyped as a graphics king) one way or the other has to be full 1080p.

otherwise they have already disqualified it themselves.

Cows lol

ridiculous.

i'm not accepting black black black black black black black over and over again for:

area A 1920x140 at the top of the screen

area B 1920x140 at the bottom of the screen

as part of the rendered game scene.

but hey just to be clear. the order 1886 is a 1920x800 game. that's the window into the game world they'll render for us to watch. that black bit at the bottom - nothing's ever going to happen there, nor at the top. i don't know why you guys include it. i'm telling the truth, it's the 800p and 1080p proponents who are wrong.

i don't know why people mention blu ray when that's a static content viewed from the disc. this is a dynamic content rendered frame by frame in real time. the resolution matters. their aspect ratio choice affects the resolution, and this resolution will be less taxing to render than full 1920x1080 (1080P).

i don't know why you guys keep pushing the issue on this. if infamous second son is 1080p without black bars, how is this 1080P with black bars?

why do you want black on the screen to count as rendered game scene? why? is it impressive to you or something?

i just don't understand you playstation guys, man. you know its 1920x800. you know 1080P is 1920x1080. You know 800P would be below 1920x800. why don't you fight those guys? you know, the actual misinformed people? the guys who say its 800p.

The order 1886 is not 1080P tormentos, and i refuse to accept black black black black black as a part of a 1080P rendered game scene.

god @MK-Professor, myself, and others are utterly, utterly bored of this, unnecessary, and thoroughly eviscerated "argument" from playstationers.

the order 1886 is probably going to be the best looking console game ever once it releases - at 1920x800.

the answer to your question is simple.......

because their argument has been that "anything sub 1080p cannot be considered graphics king".....so this game (which looks nice and is being hyped as a graphics king) one way or the other has to be full 1080p.

otherwise they have already disqualified it themselves.

Cows lol

Your not accepting it that is your problem (1),never the less the game is rending 1920x1080p (2) the black bars are black pixels period,or what black pixels don't count is that it.? So when you render a black car on a game or a black horse those aren't pixels right..? (3)

I don't care what you refuse to admit prove to me that 2.40:1 requires 1920x1080p pixels and you have your self a damn point, (4) other wise stop your DC 2.40:1 ratio requires way more pixels than 1920x1080p without black bars is a FACT not my opinion.(5)

The game isn't upscale (6) is presented to you like a movie period,go fight the developers about their choice (7) which was cinematic,unlike Ryse and Call of Duty Ghost which on xbox one were claim to be 1080p and ended 900p and 720p because the xbox one hardware couldn't handle them.. (8)

The order is 1080p with a 1920x800p visible area (9),presented in a cinematic 2.40:1 ratio that without black bars requires more pixels than 1920x1080 pixels. (10)

And unlike Ryse which was say by E3 that would be 1080p with 150k polygon characters,The orders wasn't downgrade,Ryse was downgrade to 900p with 85K polygons oh and isn't upscale either like Ryse. (11)

LOL, I invite you to drag up one post where I've heaped undeserved praise on Sony.