The Question is if MS going to use HDDVD for Gaming?

That is the only question... if the new SKU is true with the build in HDDVD drive--is HDDVD going to be use for gaming as well?

yes they will.

Heard it on an interview a while back...the guy said...HD-DVD will give developers unprecedended amount of space...unataiinable on DVD...but everyone was like WTF? 360 will never get HD-DVD standard....but that's what they said about...HDMI too :P

That is the only question... if the new SKU is true with thebuild in HDDVD drive--is HDDVD going to be use for gaming as well?

aka_aj03

They cant, if future 360 games are on HDDVD, how will 360 owners now be able to play them?

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That is the only question... if the new SKU is true with thebuild in HDDVD drive--is HDDVD going to be use for gaming as well?

Broman6015

They cant, if future 360 games are one HDDVD, how will 360 owners now be able to play them?

Knowing MS...they'll just make u buy a NEW 360 :P

what happen if the developer chose to do it on the HDDVD? aka_aj03

then they are wasting development money.

what happen if the developer chose to do it on the HDDVD? aka_aj03

Then there would be a lot of mad 360 owners.

i would say no.

and i dont think they will give developers to use the HD DVD for gaming because it isolates the vast majority of the 360 market.

think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......aka_aj03

uncharted was on blueray yet it was only 8 hours long same thing with HS

what happen if the developer chose to do it on the HDDVD? aka_aj03

think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......aka_aj03

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......ParadiddleFill

uncharted was on blueray yet it was only 8 hours long same thing with HS

A higher format has the potential for longer games. However it is up to the developer to actually make the games longer. Just because its on blu-ray does not mean a game is gonna automatically last you like 20 hours.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......ParadiddleFill

uncharted was on blueray yet it was only 8 hours long same thing with HS

For the love of God, Blu-Ray!

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......Broman6015

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......ParadiddleFill

uncharted was on blueray yet it was only 8 hours long same thing with HS

A higher format has the potential for longer games. However it is up to the developer to actually make the games longer. Just because its on blu-ray does not mean a game is gonna automatically last you like 20 hours.

then whats the point of blueray for gaming if sonys own first party dev teams wont even take advantage of the extra space?

Maybe Kojima will decide to do MGS4 on HDDVD too if he chose to.... aka_aj03

Maybe Kojima will decide to do MGS4 on HDDVD too if he chose to.... aka_aj03

Exactly, this is 100% going to happen. Get your hopes up now and don't let anyone sway you.

what happen if the developer chose to do it on the HDDVD? aka_aj03

They'd be choosing to forgo profit.

[QUOTE="Broman6015"]

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......ParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......ParadiddleFill

uncharted was on blueray yet it was only 8 hours long same thing with HS

A higher format has the potential for longer games. However it is up to the developer to actually make the games longer. Just because its on blu-ray does not mean a game is gonna automatically last you like 20 hours.

then whats the point of blueray for gaming if sonys own first party dev teams wont even take advantage of the extra space?

The point of Blu-ray in the PS3 is just to push Blu-ray. Thats it. It has nothing to do with gaming. This is coming from a PS3 owner. PS3 would have been just fine with dvd. But it is nice to have it though.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]Maybe Kojima will decide to do MGS4 on HDDVD too if he chose to.... Chutebox

Exactly, this is 100% going to happen. Get your hopes up now and don't let anyone sway you.

Is that a SERIOUS question, or just a question?

Hopefully you weren't serious, because they would never do that. They've already sold 15 million units that don't read HD-DVDs.

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

whocares4peace

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The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

aka_aj03

Your information is just as broken as your english...

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

aka_aj03

The HD-DVD drive will be used for movies only, all games will still be DVD-9, I believe its pretty well established a DVD9 is fine for current gen games

If they want to add more content, they can add another disk

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

aka_aj03

Yea, about that...

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

whocares4peace

MS has still yet to make a profit in the gaming biz in whole.

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

whocares4peace

Yea, about that...

They don't need to, but all that extra space

it depends really, if HD DVD were to win the format wars with blu ray there is a chance they might choose HD DVD.

Maybe thats what they were waiting on in the first place

think about it Lemming....Gears 2 on HDDVD.......it will be little longer than 6 hour......aka_aj03

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

Chutebox

MS has still yet to make a profit in the gaming biz in whole.

They might not have actually made a profit last quarter like people on this forum think they did. There is no "xbox division" at MS. It's not just the 360 that contributes to the branch that gaming is contained in. Honestly, that profit was likely due to the release of Halo 3, but there isn't a way of proving that, unless you have inside numbers. And either way, Halo 3 cost 50 million to make, so if you factor that into that quarter and figure that they're running at a 20% profit margin, that would completely negate the first month sales of Halo 3.

The 360 is not a money-making machine whatsoever, and it will probably cost MS more than $1 billion in the end.

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

Chutebox

MS has still yet to make a profit in the gaming biz in whole.

Overall, they're still billions in the red though, but they're finally making money.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

whocares4peace

MS has still yet to make a profit in the gaming biz in whole.

Overall, they're still billions in the red though, but they're finally making money.

RROD has cost them much more than a billion dollars.

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

aka_aj03

Yea, about that...

Microsoft played their cards right waiting this long before intigrating an HD Player into their hardware, it gives the end user a choice and doesn't force the consumer market to pay for a player that may be the next Betamax, and that statement could apply to Blu-Ray or HD-DVD at this point.

In a generation where Microsoft has been working fairly hard to maintain and build upon their userbase I very much doubt that they will opt to start releasing games on HD-DVD and basically leaving between 13-14 million existing console owners out in the cold, even if you put that aside PS3 which is suppose to be the marvel of modern gaming technology doesn't even have most of its games taking advantage of Blu-Ray or 1080p at this point, why would Microsoft alienate its userbase for a format most developers will not even take near full advantage of till next generation at the soonest?

It also would be a disadvantage for developers,

Do you spend all that design time and resources developing an HD-DVD titles for 360 and the few million users who may end up with an intigrated unit, or do you focus on the 13-14 million who have a regular 360?

All the combined unit goes to show me is that Microsoft feels that HD-DVD as a format will be around for a while, and if anything it leads me to believe that next gen HD-DVD will be the media of choice in the Xbox 720.

But again, for this gen I highly doubt it.

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

i_like_pizza

MS has still yet to make a profit in the gaming biz in whole.

Overall, they're still billions in the red though, but they're finally making money.

RROD has cost them much more than a billion dollars.

Microsoft said on Thursday that it will expand its warranty on the Xbox to three years for certain hardware failures after an investigation showed the game console can be vulnerable to problems.

"As a result of what Microsoft views as an unacceptable number of repairs to Xbox 360 consoles, the company conducted extensive investigations into potential sources of general hardware failures," Microsoft said in a statement. "Having identified a number of factors which can cause general hardware failures indicated by three red flashing lights on the console, Microsoft has made improvements to the console and is enhancing its Xbox 360 warranty policy for existing and new customers."

The company said it will cover machines that experience such failures for up to three years from the date of purchase. To cover the cost of the new policy, Microsoft said it will take a pre-tax charge of $1.05 billion to $1.15 billion in its just-ended quarter.

"The majority of Xbox 360 owners are having a great experience with their console and have from day one," Entertainment & Devices Division President Robbie Bach said in a statement. "But, this problem has caused frustration for some of our customers and for that, we sincerely apologize."

Microsoft said it will reimburse customers that have already paid for repairs for the hardware problem that is indicated by the three flashing lights.

The Answer is NO.

Can we please stop talking about things that make no sense?

[QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="aka_aj03"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

The 360, thanks to its great software sales, is actually making them money, They arent that stupid enough to kill the console just when its starting to make a profit.

whocares4peace

Yea, about that...

what happen if the developer chose to do it on the HDDVD? aka_aj03

I doubt it since they wouldn't sell any games then.

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9740021-7.html

The company said it will cover machines that experience such failures for up to three years from the date of purchase. To cover the cost of the new policy, Microsoft said it will take a pre-tax charge of $1.05 billion to $1.15 billion in its just-ended quarter.

whocares4peace

That doesn't tell you how much it is costing them. That tells you how big of a charge they took against a single quarter's earnings in order to help pay for the repairs on the 11.6 million sold at that time. For all we know, it could cost them $3 billion, they just don't need to charge that all at once.

aka_aj03

Looks at Heavenly Sword and Uncharted

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9740021-7.html

The company said it will cover machines that experience such failures for up to three years from the date of purchase. To cover the cost of the new policy, Microsoft said it will take a pre-tax charge of $1.05 billion to $1.15 billion in its just-ended quarter.

i_like_pizza

That doesn't tell you how much it is costing them. That tells you how big of a charge they took against a single quarter's earnings in order to help pay for the repairs on the 11.6 million sold at that time. For all we know, it could cost them $3 billion, they just don't need to charge that all at once.