The real driving simulator.

Can polyphony get off its high horse and drop that silly slogan? It's arrogant and pompous. Or is it sony's marketing team that decided this silly stance?

It says "We're confident you'll enjoy this product", if a product doesn't sound confident, the consumer won't feel confident in purchasing it. There's always "arrogant" slogans, but it's only to catch consumers.

Example:

"We have the best beer in the world!" over "We ALMOST have the best beer in the world!"

The first one obviously sounds better even if it isn't true.

That's alls I have to say...

It says "We're confident you'll enjoy this product", if a product doesn't sound confident, the consumer won't feel confident in purchasing it. There's always "arrogant" slogans, but it's only to catch consumers.

Example:

"We have the best beer in the world!" over "We ALMOST have the best beer in the world!"

The first one obviously sounds better even if it isn't true.

siLVURcross

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It says "We're confident you'll enjoy this product", if a product doesn't sound confident, the consumer won't feel confident in purchasing it. There's always "arrogant" slogans, but it's only to catch consumers.

Example:

"We have the best beer in the world!" over "We ALMOST have the best beer in the world!"

The first one obviously sounds better even if it isn't true.

MaxPower15

Besides that slogan would be terrible, it certainly wouldn't have me sold if that's all it said.

[QUOTE="MaxPower15"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

It says "We're confident you'll enjoy this product", if a product doesn't sound confident, the consumer won't feel confident in purchasing it. There's always "arrogant" slogans, but it's only to catch consumers.

Example:

"We have the best beer in the world!" over "We ALMOST have the best beer in the world!"

The first one obviously sounds better even if it isn't true.

siLVURcross

Besides that slogan would be terrible, it certainly wouldn't have me sold if that's all it said.

because better then GT would be a lie. It would have to say: "Less Cars then GT" "Lower resolution then GT" or "won't sell like GT"

how is that arrogant but not "the definitive racing game on any system"?

how is that arrogant but not "the definitive racing game on any system"?

SilverChimera

No racing game is.

how is that arrogant but not "the definitive racing game on any system"?

SilverChimera

Agreed, he kept saying that over and over again at the conference

because better then GT would be a lie. It would have to say: "Less Cars then GT" "Lower resolution then GT" or "won't sell like GT"

MegajerkNYC

because better than FM would be a lie. It would have to say: "Less custimization than FM" or "lower poly count than FM or "online setup isn't as good as FM".

The thread is pure flame bait.

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[QUOTE="MaxPower15"] So why can't microsoft put "better than gt" on their forza boxart?MaxPower15

Besides that slogan would be terrible, it certainly wouldn't have me sold if that's all it said.

Directly calling out another person/group and/or their properties is seen as disrespectful. There are also copyright laws that have to be obeyed. Simply mentioning property a developer doesn't own in a game they created is grounds for a lawsuit if permission wasn't given, regardless if it's in-game or just on the boxart.

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

how is that arrogant but not "the definitive racing game on any system"?

Agreed, he kept saying that over and over again at the conference

[QUOTE="MaxPower15"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"] Who said they can't?

Besides that slogan would be terrible, it certainly wouldn't have me sold if that's all it said.

Technoweirdo

Directly calling out another person/group and/or their properties is seen as disrespectful. There are also copyright laws that have to be obeyed. Simply mentioning property a developer doesn't own in a game they created is grounds for a lawsuit if permission wasn't given, regardless if it's in-game or just on the boxart.

Driving, Racing = 2 different things.

I really don't think anyone who has played GT5P with a good force feedback wheel can deny the slogan used. This is not a competition due to the first line in my post IMO.

Driving, Racing = 2 different things.

I really don't think anyone who has played GT5P with a good force feedback wheel can deny the slogan used. This is not a competition due to the first line in my post IMO.

360hammer

Can polyphony get off its high horse and drop that silly slogan? It's arrogant and pompous. Or is it sony's marketing team that decided this silly stance?

MaxPower15

Look I think it is pretty straight forward stuff. They are trying to sell a product and the slogan can sometimes sway people into buying things when they don't know about the others. Not only that if you don't have confidence in what you are selling then how the hell can you have your customer be confident in buying your product?

Sony is the best and GT series is the Real Driving Simulator.djsifer01

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[QUOTE="MaxPower15"] So why can't microsoft put "better than gt" on their forza boxart?MaxPower15

Besides that slogan would be terrible, it certainly wouldn't have me sold if that's all it said.

You do know that GT wasn't referencing MS, Forza, or any of it's closest competition today when they came up with the slogan, right? When th first GT emerged back in '97 it was a far different driving experience than any of the other racing games out there. That's what the slogan denotes, and Fanboys losing sleep over it is... frankly, hilarious.

I am going to take some flak for this, but I always enjoyed Codemaster race games (PC/Console) compared to Forza and Gran Turismo.

I guess it depends on which series has recieved more attention from the real-world automotive industry to some extent.

Example:

"We have the best beer in the world!" over "We ALMOST have the best beer in the world!"

The first one obviously sounds better even if it isn't true.

siLVURcross

People bash Dan Greenawalt for saying "The definitive racing game" when he is obviously confident in his game.aero250

The slogan is obviously false, but company claims are almost always false. Hype like that sells. REAL racing simulators don't.

Driving, Racing = 2 different things.

I really don't think anyone who has played GT5P with a good force feedback wheel can deny the slogan used. This is not a competition due to the first line in my post IMO.

360hammer

95% of the game is focused around racing?.. How do you unlock/purchase the cars if you don't race?

In addition how can a game be called "the real driving simulator" when the most iconic brands in the automotive industry are not represented in the game? Hell... you could not even get into a Ferrari for the first 9 years of the brand existence.....not to mention others such as Porsche and Lamborghini that are still absent....Pretty pathetic of you ask me...

I also don't agree with T10 stating with "the definitive racing game this gen" ..Maybe on consoles.... but far from it on PC..

because better then GT would be a lie. It would have to say: "Less Cars then GT" "Lower resolution then GT" or "won't sell like GT"

MegajerkNYC

Calling GT a "Driving Sim" is like calling Halo a realistic "War Sim." It's not correct or even close.

A real driving sim is GTR2.

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because better then GT would be a lie. It would have to say: "Less Cars then GT" "Lower resolution then GT" or "won't sell like GT"

Camer999

because better than FM would be a lie. It would have to say: "Less custimization than FM" or "lower poly count than FM or "online setup isn't as good as FM".

Can polyphony get off its high horse and drop that silly slogan? It's arrogant and pompous. Or is it sony's marketing team that decided this silly stance?

MaxPower15

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

how is that arrogant but not "the definitive racing game on any system"?

Agreed, he kept saying that over and over again at the conference

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

Driving, Racing = 2 different things.

I really don't think anyone who has played GT5P with a good force feedback wheel can deny the slogan used. This is not a competition due to the first line in my post IMO.

masiisam

95% of the game is focused around racing?.. How do you unlock/purchase the cars if you don't race?

In addition how can a game be called "the real driving simulator" when the most iconic brands in the automotive industry are not represented in the game? Hell... you could not even get into a Ferrari for the first 9 years of the brand existence.....not to mention others such as Porsche and Lamborghini that are still absent....Pretty pathetic of you ask me...

I also don't agree with T10 stating with "the definitive racing game this gen" ..Maybe on consoles.... but far from it on PC..

Yes, it is a racing game but the slogan "Driving Sim" is spot on IMO. I don't care which game people prefer just based my post about the slogan and why I think it fits. Also I'm referring to Prologue because I have not played GT5 yet and really don't have a problem with the car selection in Prologue for what it is. As for previous versions I've not played'em as my PS3 is my first Sony console.

Sony is the best and GT series is the Real Driving Simulator.djsifer01

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Sony is the best and GT series is the Real Driving Simulator.Communistsheep

Real drivers don't play bumper cars or crash. LOL, couldn't resist. Although that is probibly why the slogan doesn't say the real racing simulator.

[QUOTE="aero250"]People bash Dan Greenawalt for saying "The definitive racing game" when he is obviously confident in his game.AdrianWerner

You must have gotten pretty angry at T10 during E3.

I don't think they said anything better.

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Sony is the best and GT series is the Real Driving Simulator.360hammer

Real drivers don't play bumper cars or crash. LOL, couldn't resist. Although that is probibly why the slogan doesn't say the real racing simulator.

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[QUOTE="Communistsheep"] Real driving simulators don't have bumber car physics and crashes.Shhadow_Viper

Real drivers don't play bumper cars or crash. LOL, couldn't resist. Although that is probibly why the slogan doesn't say the real racing simulator.