The real reason for MS new friendly attitude.

XBox 360 sales top 30 million with 20 million LIVE subscribers

Microsoft just announced sales of Xbox 360 consoles have passed the 30 million mark globally, up 28 percent over last year, which it claims is the highest percentage growth in hardware sales of any console so far in 2009. In addition, the Xbox LIVE community has grown to over 20 million users, coming from 26 countries.

And these users spend money, too. In a press release touting the sales numbers, Microsoft claims U.S. consumers alone have spent $14.5 billion across all categories on Xbox 360 at retail, and consumers worldwide have downloaded close to 1 billion pieces of gaming and entertainment content from Xbox LIVE Marketplace to date.

https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/28/xbox-360-sales-top-30-million-with-20-million-live-subscribers/

You may ask what the hell does the xbox 360 arriving at 30 millions have anything to do with how MS is acting now,so gamer friendly and the answer is quite simple.

This ^^ arrival at 30 millions of the xbox 360 happen exactly 3 years and 6 months after the xbox 360 launched,the 360 was 3 and a half years old when that happen.

By this time frame the xbox one was greatly behind the 360,so much that at year 4 EA estimate 30 million units sold,the xbox one is tracking below the xbox 360 sales by several million units.

In fact this year mark the xbox one 5th year on the market,and i don't see them hitting 40 millions let alone 45 millions like the xbox 360 did had when it turned 5.

Xbox 360 turns five, sales hit 45 million

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-360-turns-five-sales-hit-45-million/1100-6284419/

So why is MS so friendly now with gamers,talking about mods,cross play,BC and all those things they simply didn't care about at the start of this generation? Because they are behind greatly the xbox one is not even beating the 360 in time frame,hell i think the PS3 in time frame was also ahead of the xbox one by a considerable margin.

Brace yourself, lemmings incoming.

It’s rather simple. MS as company is pushing services not simply hardware and one time purchases. Also, the BC on the Xbox One is nothing new to the brand especially since they supported limited BC on the 360. Everything that is gamer “friendly” is simply to fit the end goal of their services model.

@Pedro: and all of that because they're on third place on the console race.

MS have changed their attitude due to being destroyed in this gen. Last gen was completely opposite.

@recloud: I wasn’t aware that the Switch out sold the Xbox One.

Andddddddddd they're right on cue

@Pedro: It is outselling it, by the end of the year, xone will be third place.

@recloud: Oh so it hasn’t and it’s in second place. Strange how misinformation is so easily injected but I am not surprised. ?

@Pedro: well, I'm futureproofing and as of now, in monthly sales and relevance, it is on third place.

Doesn't excuse Sony's attitude lately.

BC has been a priority from the start.

You seem to have the need to justify Microsoft's change in the right direction. But in doing so have acknowledged they are.

Every manufacturer makes big mistakes at some point. But they are coming back strong.

@recloud: No, it’s called being wrong. That’s all.

@Pedro: LMAO, you can't disprove the fact that it's already in third place in monthly sales and relevance.

I am not disapproving the fact that the Xbox One is in second place in unit sold. Don't be angry because the facts are not fitting your agenda. After all, this fact does not affect your gaming experience. :)

@Pedro: LMAO, it's still in third place in relevance and monthly sales.

Dancing around the fact doesn't change it. :)

Wait did anyone really think X1 was outpacing the 360?

@Pedro: exactly, it doesn't change the fact that it's third place in relevance and monthly sales. ?

LOL. Doesn't make it any less in second place and your appending of "relevance" is even more hilarious.

The Publishers want crossplay, MS is just on board with it. Most recently Todd Howard (not MS) wanted crossplay for Fallout 76 but mentioned Sony wasnt being as helpful as he wanted.

I think people are just hell bent on MS , when in reality these game pubs/developers want crossplay for its games.

Then with MS, they restructured with Phil and Satya vision for gaming is making it open and advancing gaming with new tech(ai, cloud, adaptive controller, etc...). So if you havent been paying attention to the press, MS move to opening up isnt anything new.

Xbox is getting used as a toilet this gen. They're trying to use any tactic at this point to chip away at Sony's hold on the industry, and that includes trying to start fake outrage about crossplay. It's almost like MS had dignity once.

To use a well worn Sony fan catchphrase 'Absolutely REKT!. ( and don't forget the lol!)

@tormentos: So Sony's new unfriendly attitude is because they are the market leaders?

Gee, which manufacturer is encouraging me more to buy one of their consoles?

@Pedro: I love how desperate you get to defend M$, still the facts remain: it's third place in monthly sales, it'll be third place in total sales by the end of the year. Poor M$.

Tornentos hit the nail on the head.

? Look at the usual butthurt lems in here already, attacking to defend their FlopBone’s honor.

It is a suitable reply. The Xbox One has sold more units than the Nintendo Switch and is positioned in second place regarding the sales of the three major platforms.

Granted, monthly the Nintendo Switch is selling more units but it has yet to catch up on the Xbox One which is what Pedro is referring to.

I doubt the big publishers really want crossplay. They make more money when people double dip to play with their buddies on different systems. EA and Ubisoft have probably made billions from people double-dipping because they want to play with their buddies on different systems.

MS and Nintendo are really the only ones that gain financially from this.

Look at all the Sony fans inexplicably concerned with the console that is in 3rd place.

@recloud: The really funny thing is that the Xbox One was in 4th place at least twice in the monthly NPD charts. The SNES classic beat it a couple of times around launch. The NES classic just got a re-release (6/29) so it’s possible the Xbox One will finish 4th in June and July.

Some lems did. For the longest time the official lem damage control was that Xbone was doing fine because it was outpacing the 360 ?

@jumpaction: and I'm referring to the bigger picture and to the future, M$ will be third place by the end of the year and it'll be nowhere to be seen by the end of the generation

Not concerned at all. I’m outright laughing at the FlopBone and you lems ?

Microsoft sell services not consoles.........because they've realised they can't actually sell consoles all that well.

@recloud: I wouldn't say Pedro's reply is desperate though. He is right in saying that the Xbox One is now positioned second.

Current trends suggest the Nintendo Switch will eventually surpass the platform in sales but who knows what might happen? Interest for the Nintendo Switch could totally drop off. I don't think it will yet but who knows?

Either way, I think both of your assertions are correct. Neither is a stretch to say.

I am not defending anything just stating facts. Don't hate the facts because you don't like it.

People who view Xbox as the only division of MS believe its new.

Indeed, when they decided to try to change the industry on their own and got knocked the **** out, they knew going to TV based device was a mistake.

@Heil68: it's really amusing, they couldn't foresee the future at all, in fact, they never do, they didn't predict the mobile market, the downfall of TV, the streaming market, nothing...

The sad thing is that lems have also been making wild predictions like their parent company MS, and they’ve been pretty much wrong on all of them.

Wow, 360 was also slow selling. it seems they will never be on top if their best gen was bad. Explains why they are moving to service and PC, 3 fails. Sony had only 1/PS3/ and they bounced back, same with Nintendo.

@Ant_17: and PS3 wasn't really a failure, it just had a bad start, by the end of the gen, it released a really good amount of exclusives.

Streaming market?

Yet another thread turned into a circlejerk between quad, recloud, any, scatteh and heil... you guys ever considered just making a Skype group so the rest of system war does have to read your drivel?

LOL. Its fun reading their circle jerk bullshit because they actually believe it. :)

I think you need to go and study the meaning and point of system wars as you're a little confused as to what should happen in here.

Or I suggest you go and look at one of the smaller, less active parts of the forum as no one is forcing you to read and participate System Wars.

@djoffer: oh, the lemming is butthurt because he is having the truth shoved in his face...

Skype is an MS owned product so you wouldn't catch them using that.

EA estimated 28 million sold but only months later a marketing company that tracks numbers said more like 39 million X1 sold. Strange how a cow doesn't put that up. http://www.hostprotech.com/2018/06/16/39-1-million-xbox-one-consoles-sold-globally-report/

You can play phony market analyzer all you want. Bottom line is, they have switched to being a more Pro consumer service for years. Its just getting more recognition now and its shining in your precious Shogun's face.

@cainetao11: EA is more reliable than a marketing company whose name you don't even know.

I was now about to call you out on your 39 million claim because "who the hell is hostprotech" but apparently the same is reported at here atGamespot.

EDIT: That's a 2016 GS article. :| The other sites that confirms this I don't know about.

According to research firm IHS Markit the Xbox One install base is at 39.1 million units versus the 76.6 million PS4s sold as of March 2018.

Intersting...isn't that the same firm that said that Xbox Live is better than PSN?

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/better-network

According to an independent research study by IHS Markit, Xbox Live tested the highest in gaming network speed, reliability and social experience in the US and UK.