The REAL Reason There Is A Market For Consoles *NOT* PC GAMING

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Errr, what are you talking about "taking your PC into your living room everytime" ... you know havnt it ever accurd to you that people have PC's in thier living room , part of thier home-cinema system? Its highly doable (buy a smart case) ...

HD TV's are over-priced -future-standard gimmicks ... you can brag about it all you like, but in the face of gaming its a gimmick gimmick gimmick

septicvirus

Did you just say hdtv's are a gimmick? I think we have just entered the "damage control" stage.

HD Gaming is a gimmick, its being rushed way too far ahead of time. you pay these ridiculous prices now, but they will be a standard soon ... anyone rushing out buying "TEH 50 INCH HDTV !!!!" " MEH GAMES WILL BE AWESOME " right now for $2000 are just insane...

Your Digital boxes cost more, hell your games-consoles cost alot more.

Paying Premium for something thats marginally better ... on everything is just wrong.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Errr, what are you talking about "taking your PC into your living room everytime" ... you know havnt it ever accurd to you that people have PC's in thier living room , part of thier home-cinema system? Its highly doable (buy a smart case) ...

HD TV's are over-priced -future-standard gimmicks ... you can brag about it all you like, but in the face of gaming its a gimmick gimmick gimmick

jdp0412

PCs support higher resolutions than today's HDTV standards but HDTV is far from a future-standard gimmick, do you realize how much programming is currently available in HD?

So far in this thread I have agreed with nothing the TC has said but I agree with him on the point that your statement is unfounded and outlandish

bingo people who own console r very simple minded ppl who dont relaly know much about technology.. they only know that $399 / $599 box puts out graphics looks identical and that HDTV > anything PC has

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

This is better then the console I could make one for cheaper.. But the point stnads YOU NEED a computer for thigns OTHER THEN gaming.. I am sorry if your 12 and don't have a job, college or any thing else.. But Real people need things for other then gaming.. So if you can show me a console that does thigns other then gaming and can match the thousands of thigns the pc can do other then play games, I am all ears.

sSubZerOo

You appear to be agreeing with my main point. That is that it is not practical for most people to keep their PC connected to their HDTV in their living room. This is the advantage of consoles.

Thats not true, the reason why people dont do it is because its complicated.. People such as your self can't fathom building a computer and would rather just sit down and get a dumbed down version with otu any hassle or research..

I'm sorry what you said is not true. Building a gaming PC for $800 is complicated. The average person can walk into any electronics store and ask for what they need to connect their pc to their hdtv and get it done no problem. It is not complicated.

Computers in general are moer complicated then consoles.. Unlike consoles where you can plug and play pretty much you have to configure and some times trouble shoot.. This is why consoles are more popular because they are more simplistic to the average person.. They do not require research to buy one while building one certainly does and many hitchs can come across...

HDtv out for pc is difficult for some because A their video card may no thave the capabilities for this, B) there are different connections to the Tv as well that they might not have.. C) some driver versions do not support it so on and so fourth..

The reason why the computer isn't as popular is because its complicated.. Your other reasons are triival at best.. Because all can be done but the average person does not use it.. Why the hell do you think the majority of console fan boys think computers cost so much liek $2000? Because they refuse to research.. Why do you think that the average age for console gamers is significantly lower then pc gamers?

Really there is a trade off both are solid platforms, people just prefer pcs over consoles or vice versa.. SOme such as my self have both.

I have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Errr, what are you talking about "taking your PC into your living room everytime" ... you know havnt it ever accurd to you that people have PC's in thier living room , part of thier home-cinema system? Its highly doable (buy a smart case) ...

HD TV's are over-priced -future-standard gimmicks ... you can brag about it all you like, but in the face of gaming its a gimmick gimmick gimmick

Meu2k7

Did you just say hdtv's are a gimmick? I think we have just entered the "damage control" stage.

HD Gaming is a gimmick, its being rushed way too far ahead of time. you pay these ridiculous prices now, but they will be a standard soon ... anyone rushing out buying "TEH 50 INCH HDTV !!!!" " MEH GAMES WILL BE AWESOME " right now for $2000 are just insane...

haha nice one

have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.septicvirus

[QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.Vandalvideo

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

[QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.Vandalvideo

lol pownage right there ... he's argument is like. $399 box + HDTV + couch > anything PC throws

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

Really, a weak argument.

The best argument for saying that there's a real market for consoles is because console gaming is far more a social experience. You can have 4 players on a single system, while most PC games are single player (unless everyone has their own system). I mean, I know online play helps, but I personally find playing with friends in the same room more fun than online.

And yes, I understand that it's not possible for that to happen all the time...just saying it is one of the actual advantages of console gaming.

septicvirus

I never play with anyone else on my console. That argument is weak. But, I do playing video games on my comfortable couch on my large hdtv. For the record, I do like playing my gaming pc (in the dark) for games like STALKER. But even, multiplat games are sometimes bought for my console (Bioshock, Madden '08 ).

Maybe you need some friends?

Sorry, arguments can only be weak when you can show that they are impractical/unlikely or theoretical (if arguing against someone using fact). Just because you don't use that feature doesn't make the argument weak. But your original argument is the epitome of weaksauce.

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?septicvirus

PCs and HDTVs...

What the hell is this thread about anyways? :|
DireToad

It's called "read the thread"

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.septicvirus

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

I will certainly doing it with my PC in the future, I cant now because its not my place to claim something like that ... but Pc's on your living room television can be amazing , providing your whole setup is custimized for it.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

Really, a weak argument.

The best argument for saying that there's a real market for consoles is because console gaming is far more a social experience. You can have 4 players on a single system, while most PC games are single player (unless everyone has their own system). I mean, I know online play helps, but I personally find playing with friends in the same room more fun than online.

And yes, I understand that it's not possible for that to happen all the time...just saying it is one of the actual advantages of console gaming.

Vampyronight

I never play with anyone else on my console. That argument is weak. But, I do playing video games on my comfortable couch on my large hdtv. For the record, I do like playing my gaming pc (in the dark) for games like STALKER. But even, multiplat games are sometimes bought for my console (Bioshock, Madden '08 ).

Maybe you need some friends?

Sorry, arguments can only be weak when you can show that they are impractical/unlikely or theoretical (if arguing against someone using fact). Just because you don't use that feature doesn't make the argument weak. But your original argument is the epitome of weaksauce.

Maybe hes older than 16? and goes out ... like alot of us.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

Really, a weak argument.

The best argument for saying that there's a real market for consoles is because console gaming is far more a social experience. You can have 4 players on a single system, while most PC games are single player (unless everyone has their own system). I mean, I know online play helps, but I personally find playing with friends in the same room more fun than online.

And yes, I understand that it's not possible for that to happen all the time...just saying it is one of the actual advantages of console gaming.

Vampyronight

I never play with anyone else on my console. That argument is weak. But, I do playing video games on my comfortable couch on my large hdtv. For the record, I do like playing my gaming pc (in the dark) for games like STALKER. But even, multiplat games are sometimes bought for my console (Bioshock, Madden '08 ).

Maybe you need some friends?

Sorry, arguments can only be weak when you can show that they are impractical/unlikely or theoretical (if arguing against someone using fact). Just because you don't use that feature doesn't make the argument weak. But your original argument is the epitome of weaksauce.

I'm sorry but people who are not in grade school or high school (maybe even college) - don't invite their friends over to play video games.

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

Really, a weak argument.

The best argument for saying that there's a real market for consoles is because console gaming is far more a social experience. You can have 4 players on a single system, while most PC games are single player (unless everyone has their own system). I mean, I know online play helps, but I personally find playing with friends in the same room more fun than online.

And yes, I understand that it's not possible for that to happen all the time...just saying it is one of the actual advantages of console gaming.

septicvirus

I never play with anyone else on my console. That argument is weak. But, I do playing video games on my comfortable couch on my large hdtv. For the record, I do like playing my gaming pc (in the dark) for games like STALKER. But even, multiplat games are sometimes bought for my console (Bioshock, Madden '08 ).

Maybe you need some friends?

Sorry, arguments can only be weak when you can show that they are impractical/unlikely or theoretical (if arguing against someone using fact). Just because you don't use that feature doesn't make the argument weak. But your original argument is the epitome of weaksauce.

I'm sorry but people who are not in grade school orhigh school (maybe even college) - don't invite their friends over to play video games.

lol thats anotehr weak sauce argument .. ppl play lan party .... 10+ ppl bring their PC and LAn it ... much better than the TEH 4 Playa on my box

For $50 you can easily setup your PC so it can be switched at will between your 50" TV and aPC monitor.jdp0412

Wow! Only $50. That price reminds me of something else that a large majority consider way overpriced. Yet I probably enjoy that more then the enjoyment I would get from a switch.

If you have tried playing the PC on a large screen tv, do you consider it comfortable. If you mention that you don't have to use a keyboard & mouse when using the pc on a large tv, then that undermines importance of the feature that hermits consider to be the only way to play the most popular games on their system.

I'm sorry but people who are not in grade school or high school (maybe even college) - don't invite their friends over to play video games.septicvirus

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.septicvirus

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

Because he does? In the end thats just your opinion, and the mere fact that your stereotyping makes it false.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.septicvirus

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

I for one think this whole argument is silly. I'd rather play games in my chair than a couch/beanie bag. I'd rather have my 22 inch 1680x1050 LCD two feet away from me. Much better picture than any HDTV out there.

[QUOTE="jdp0412"]For $50 you can easily setup your PC so it can be switched at will between your 50" TV and aPC monitor.monkeychris

Wow! Only $50. That price reminds me of something else that a large majority consider way overpriced. Yet I probably enjoy that more then the enjoyment I would get from a switch.

If you have tried playing the PC on a large screen tv, do you consider it comfortable. If you mention that you don't have to use a keyboard & mouse when using the pc on a large tv, then that undermines importance of the feature that hermits consider to be the only way to play the most popular games on their system.

yes why not ??

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]I'm sorry but people who are not in grade school or high school (maybe even college) - don't invite their friends over to play video games.Vandalvideo

I agree, I finished college a couple of years ago and I still have friends over to play games and though I haven't in a while I would still be more than happy to attend a LAN party.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.baddog121390

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

I for one think this whole argument is silly. I'd rather play games in my chair than a couch/beanie bag. I'd rather have my 22 inch 1680x1050 LCD two feet away from me. Much better picture than any HDTV out there.

Yea same, I cant get into serious games or multiplayer games on a couch ... my attention spam just dwindles because well my bodies in the lazy mode >>

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"] have both too and my point is not that pc's are too complicated. My point is that most people (including hermits) do not keep their pc in their living room permanently connected to their hdtv because they need to use their pc for other purposes too. If everyone had the knowledge of how to do it, it wouldn't change the fact that they would still choose not to because it is not practicle for all of their pc needs. - And neither is moving the pc back and forth.baddog121390

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

I for one think this whole argument is silly. I'd rather play games in my chair than a couch/beanie bag. I'd rather have my 22 inch 1680x1050 LCD two feet away from me. Much better picture than any HDTV out there.

And you're right! Simple as that.

This is what sets you apart from those who prefer consoles!

point made.

Yeah, gaming pcs put out better graphics

Wrong, just higher resolutions but hardly anything that looks better than what the consoles are doing.

wok7

Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. Company of Heroes alone looks much better than any console game.

[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Becaus you clearly can't do all that other stuff from a couch. Seriously man, weakest arguement ever. I do CAD, modeling, photoshop, music mastering, video editing, gaming, etc all from my comfy beanbag. Its VERY practical.septicvirus

Are you still the one hermit who claims to keep his pc in the living room connected to the tv full time?

I for one think this whole argument is silly. I'd rather play games in my chair than a couch/beanie bag. I'd rather have my 22 inch 1680x1050 LCD two feet away from me. Much better picture than any HDTV out there.

And you're right! Simple as that.

This is what sets you apart from those who prefer consoles!

point made.

What sets him apart from console gamers isn't that he'd rather play on a monitor. It's that he'd rather play on a computer.

Let's be honest here.....How many people play mainstream games like Bioshock, Mass Effect..... laying back on a couch, I mean you have to sit up and play....Only kiddy games can be played laying back on a couch.

I'll get pwned if I play Halo 3 MP laying back on a couch.

Let's be honest here.....How many people play mainstream games like Bioshock, Mass Effect..... laying back on a couch, I mean you have to sit up and play....Only kiddy games can be played laying back on a couch.

I'll get pwned if I play Halo 3 MP laying back on a couch.

froidnite

Wow, so now all console gamers are casual gamers???

TC has a great point though. Consoles are perfect for people who dont know much about computers and just want to have fun. They are not simple minded, just dont know about computers. PC gaming can be scary prospect to the average consumer becuase the perception is that no two systems are alike and you have to customize your system and of course upgrade it constantly. Sometimes things dont work out either, and you have to know how to adjust all your settings, which can be exceptionally complicated in some cases. There is also price, and console gaming has the image of being pricey and only really worth it for hardcores. There will always be games like WoW and sims, but in general its true that the average consumer prefers consoles.

Someday, pcs will fix the problems in the interface and it will be a lot cheaper and simpler, and there will really be no reason to get a console unless there are exclusives I suppose.

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

froidnite

[QUOTE="froidnite"]

Let's be honest here.....How many people play mainstream games like Bioshock, Mass Effect..... laying back on a couch, I mean you have to sit up and play....Only kiddy games can be played laying back on a couch.

I'll get pwned if I play Halo 3 MP laying back on a couch.

septicvirus

Wow, so now all console gamers are casual gamers???

Did I say that?:roll: All I said was you can't play most games relaxing and laying back on a couch.

[QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

froidnite

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

Vandalvideo

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

froidnite

THIS IS NOT MY POINT.

My point is that one of the main differences between pc gaming and console gaming is not what you play, but how you play it. Most hermits do not play in their living room on their hdtv 100% of the time. This "convenience" is one of the main draws of console gaming. Yes, Hermits will come back with "you can connect your pc to your hdtv," but my point is that almost everyone aggrees that pc are multi-purpose machines and it is not very practical to keep your pc in the living room connected to the tv full time.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Pcs arn't more expensive then consoles.. a $800 pc will outperform every console and yet.. You will be able to use it for things other theng aming.. Things that are a neccesity to having now a days, such as word processing, internet surfing, as well as other more technical programs..

The reason why people don't do pc gaming is because its too complicated.. You can rig the PC to yoru tv and sit on a couch and play the game.. But it will take longer to do but you will have more customization from it.

sSubZerOo

MAKE SENSE MUCH? An $800 pc, as you mentioned, IS more expensive than any console to date.

AND, MOST people don't know how to build an $800 gaming pc. Connecting a pc to a hdtv is not very complicated. MOST people would rather not have to keep their pc in that predicament full time.

This is better then the console I could make one for cheaper.. But the point stnads YOU NEED a computer for thigns OTHER THEN gaming.. I am sorry if your 12 and don't have a job, college or any thing else.. But Real people need things for other then gaming.. So if you can show me a console that does thigns other then gaming and can match the thousands of thigns the pc can do other then play games, I am all ears.

You appear to be agreeing with my main point. That is that it is not practical for most people to keep their PC connected to their HDTV in their living room. This is the advantage of consoles.

Thats not true, the reason why people dont do it is because its complicated.. People such as your self can't fathom building a computer and would rather just sit down and get a dumbed down version with otu any hassle or research..

I'm sorry what you said is not true. Building a gaming PC for $800 is complicated. The average person can walk into any electronics store and ask for what they need to connect their pc to their hdtv and get it done no problem. It is not complicated.

Computers in general are moer complicated then consoles.. Unlike consoles where you can plug and play pretty much you have to configure and some times trouble shoot.. This is why consoles are more popular because they are more simplistic to the average person.. They do not require research to buy one while building one certainly does and many hitchs can come across...

HDtv out for pc is difficult for some because A their video card may no thave the capabilities for this, B) there are different connections to the Tv as well that they might not have.. C) some driver versions do not support it so on and so fourth..

The reason why the computer isn't as popular is because its complicated.. Your other reasons are triival at best.. Because all can be done but the average person does not use it.. Why the hell do you think the majority of console fan boys think computers cost so much liek $2000? Because they refuse to research.. Why do you think that the average age for console gamers is significantly lower then pc gamers?

Really there is a trade off both are solid platforms, people just prefer pcs over consoles or vice versa.. SOme such as my self have both.

[QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

septicvirus

THIS IS NOT MY POINT.

My point is that one of the main differences between pc gaming and console gaming is not what you play, but how you play it. Most hermits do not play in their living room on their hdtv 100% of the time. This "convenience" is one of the main draws of console gaming. Yes, Hermits will come back with "you can connect your pc to your hdtv," but my point is that almost everyone aggrees that pc are multi-purpose machines and it is not very practical to keep your pc in the living room connected to the tv full time.

[QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

septicvirus

THIS IS NOT MY POINT.

My point is that one of the main differences between pc gaming and console gaming is not what you play, but how you play it. Most hermits do not play in their living room on their hdtv 100% of the time. This "convenience" is one of the main draws of console gaming. Yes, Hermits will come back with "you can connect your pc to your hdtv," but my point is that almost everyone aggrees that pc are multi-purpose machines and it is not very practical to keep your pc in the living room connected to the tv full time.

[QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

septicvirus

THIS IS NOT MY POINT.

My point is that one of the main differences between pc gaming and console gaming is not what you play, but how you play it. Most hermits do not play in their living room on their hdtv 100% of the time. This "convenience" is one of the main draws of console gaming. Yes, Hermits will come back with "you can connect your pc to your hdtv," but my point is that almost everyone aggrees that pc are multi-purpose machines and it is not very practical to keep your pc in the living room connected to the tv full time.

Why must people connect their PC's to the HDTV's in the first place:roll:

Link?

"I think the fact that you are the only one debatingus on this matter proves that I am right"

Times change don't they.....:twisted:

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="froidnite"]

PCs are what you make it to be. It can ascheap as you want it to be, as powerful as you want it to be, as comfortable as you want it to be, as whatever you want it to be. PCs are extremely customizable, consoles are not.

Consoles are like travelling in a bus cheap, less work, probably more comfortable(cos you ain't driving). PCs are like cars, it's more expensive, more work than buses, less comfortable(cos you have to drive)but customizable.Which one would you choose:roll:

froidnite

THIS IS NOT MY POINT.

My point is that one of the main differences between pc gaming and console gaming is not what you play, but how you play it. Most hermits do not play in their living room on their hdtv 100% of the time. This "convenience" is one of the main draws of console gaming. Yes, Hermits will come back with "you can connect your pc to your hdtv," but my point is that almost everyone aggrees that pc are multi-purpose machines and it is not very practical to keep your pc in the living room connected to the tv full time.

Why must people connect their PC's to the HDTV's in the first place:roll:

Link?

It is really as simple as boiling it down to preference. Unless the majority of the hermits claim (which they don't) to game on their couch in their living room, there is nothing I have said that has been proven incorrect.

"I think the fact that you are the only one debatingus on this matter proves that I am right"

Times change don't they.....:twisted:

froidnite

By the way buddy, I just got down eating breakfast and I'm bout to go into my living room and watch a movie with my lady. Have fun.

Like most people have said, the reason why the mass market prefers console gaming(playstation nintendo and xbox) to PC gaming is that console gaming is way less complicated.

So we have this situation a kid wants to start gaming, he doesnt know SH**about computers or consoles. So he goes to ...let's say best buy. Passes a couple of "gaming" computers, looks at them sees a list of specs next to, let's say, a $1,199 price tag. Thats what they advertise at bestbuy as the lowest priced "gaming" PC. He's confused as to which kind of gaming PC to buy. He walks over to the Video games section. (If you've ever noticed PC gaming games are off in a different corner then console games in best buy. They're not even next to computers.This shows how even the stores think of PC gaming as seperate from console gaming.) Now the kid pases buy an xbox360. He has seen advertisements on TV for it, and right next to the console he sees games like gears of war and bioshock, then he looks at the price tag andit's only $449 for a slick black xbox elite. The kid is sold, he's gonna buy an xbox360, or another console.

It's just that gaming PC's are not advertised like consoles are. THeyalso don't come out of the box ready to be hooked up to your TV, and with console gaming you know that a game is going to work with your console at max settings( except with this whole hard drive issue ith the 360, but who wouldn't buy a 360 with a harddrive...prbably ignorant people like the kid i just mentioned...oh well)

NOW i'm not saying that console gaming is in any way better then PC gaming, it's just they seem to be totally different markets. Console gaming appeals to the mass market and has defined competitors (sony microsoft and nintendo) while PC gaming appeals tothe knowledged who buy their machine in parts, not as a whole. IT's just totally different ways of playing.

(as you can tell i'm not into the whole PC's vs consoles)

It is really as simple as boiling it down to preference. Unless the majority of the hermits claim (which they don't) to game on their couch in their living room, there is nothing I have said that has been proven incorrect.

septicvirus

Yeah...It's preference...you are the one acting like it's a fact. How do you know people prefer gaming on HDTVs more than gaming on monitors?