The shocking truth about the price of consoles

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I have a 2560x1440 monitor...Guess I won't be able to max out Crysis 2 with my GTX 570. :(lostrib

At above 1080p you may be hitting a VRAM limitation. But you can also try turning down the AA because it is not needed as much at 1440

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]I have a 2560x1440 monitor...Guess I won't be able to max out Crysis 2 with my GTX 570. :(Hexagon_777

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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]I dont know why console gamers bring subjective variables such as experience into the argument. You are getting ripped off on both hardware and software level and anybody who loves getting ripped of is a fool as they say a fool and his money are easily separated. I've seen countless of times console gamers making fun of Apple fanboys or wii owners that buy overpriced hardware but you are just as bad.tormentos

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] You need like another one or maybe a 3rd one.mitu123

consoles are cheaper and actually have the games I want to play...it's a simple decision for me

This thread proves one thing, that console fanboys are butthurt from the fact that a GTX580 perform around 10 times better on games (NOT some theoretical performance but actual in game performance).

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]lol, gotta love the "we". Who tested with you, TC?SamiRDuran

This thread proves one thing, that console fanboys are butthurt from the fact that a GTX580 perform around 10 times better on games (NOT some theoretical performance but actual in game performance).

MK-Professor

A GTX 580 also costs 500 bucks. For that price I'd rather buy something else than just a graphics card.

Oh men, this sh1t again... When will hermits realize we dont buy consoles because of specs but because of GAMES? Ya kno... the reason why we play videogames...???

This thread proves one thing, that console fanboys are butthurt from the fact that a GTX580 perform around 10 times better on games (NOT some theoretical performance but actual in game performance).

MK-Professor

How does this thread prove that?

The sky is blue, water is wet, and console users here don't give a rat's ass

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

This thread proves one thing, that console fanboys are butthurt from the fact that a GTX580 perform around 10 times better on games (NOT some theoretical performance but actual in game performance).

nameless12345

A GTX 580 also costs 500 bucks. For that price I'd rather buy something else than just a graphics card.

A pc with a GTX580(£230) & i5 2500k(£160) etc will cost £750 and a console costs £250. as you can see only 3 times more expensive.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

This thread proves one thing, that console fanboys are butthurt from the fact that a GTX580 perform around 10 times better on games (NOT some theoretical performance but actual in game performance).

lundy86_4

How does this thread prove that?

A pc with a GTX580 achieves on crysis 2 - 58fps with 1920x1200, extreme settings(+high rez texture pack) (GPU usage around 100%)
now step by step we will continue to lower our settings, resolution, limit the fps to get to console settings.

GTX580 - 1920x1200, extreme settings(+high rez texture pack), 58fps(no lock) (GPU usage around 100%)
GTX580 - 1920x1200, extreme settings(+high rez texture pack), 30fps(lock) (GPU usage around 50%)
GTX580 - 1920x1200, high settings, 30fps(lock) (GPU usage around 27%)
GTX580 - 1280x720, high settings, 30fps(lock) (GPU usage around 14%)
GTX580 - 1024x768, high settings, 30fps(lock) (GPU usage around 12%)

so with console settings our GPU only uses 12% of its power and still getting better fps so we can predict(using common sense) with a lock at 26fps(we cannot actually lock to 26 because V-Sync only allow 30fps or 60fps) that the GPU usage will be around 10%.

conclusion: at console settings the GPU only uses 10% of its power so we can safely conclude that the GTX580 performs around 10 times better than consoles (also in other games we found similar results).

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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

This thread proves one thing, that console fanboys are butthurt from the fact that a GTX580 perform around 10 times better on games (NOT some theoretical performance but actual in game performance).

MK-Professor

How does this thread prove that?

*snip*

I meant, how does this thread prove that console gamers are butthurt because they don't get the added performance. My general feeling from this thread is that theydon't care about the added performance.

I didn't buy my PS3 for its graphics card. I bought it for all the exclusives I couldn't find anywhere else, along with multiplats not on PC.

whiskeystrike

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

How does this thread prove that?

lundy86_4

*snip*

I meant, how does this thread prove that console gamers are butthurt because they don't get the added performance. My general feeling from this thread is that theydon't care about the added performance.

On this thread the majority of the posts from console gamers are damage control, trolling, etc and that proves that are butthurt?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

*snip*

MK-Professor

I meant, how does this thread prove that console gamers are butthurt because they don't get the added performance. My general feeling from this thread is that theydon't care about the added performance.

On this thread the majority of the posts from console gamers are damage control, trolling, etc and that proves that are butthurt?

Feel free to prove that the majority of posts are damage control or trolling. Not agreeing with your (or TC's) sentiments counts under neither of those categories.

At the end of the day, both consoles and PC's offer advantages over one another and individuals choose based on whatthey want, not what youbelieve is best.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I meant, how does this thread prove that console gamers are butthurt because they don't get the added performance. My general feeling from this thread is that theydon't care about the added performance.

lundy86_4

On this thread the majority of the posts from console gamers are damage control, trolling, etc and that proves that are butthurt?

Feel free to prove that the majority of posts are damage control or trolling. Not agreeing with your (or TC's) sentiments counts under neither of those categories.

At the end of the day, both consoles and PC's offer advantages over one another and individuals choose based on whatthey want, not what youbelieve is best.

PC is arguably the best platform to play games, it simply doesn't have trade offs or disadvantages, but only advantages.

PC is arguably the best platform to play games, it simply doesn't have trade offs or disadvantages, but only advantages.

MK-Professor

You can read several posts in this very thread that offer legitimate reasons as to why some might prefer console gaming to PC gaming, my previous post included. The fact is, there is no "one size fits all" solution in video games. Everyone is looking for something different out of their gaming experience.

yeah good point. Consoles are way overpriced for being so outdated.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

On this thread the majority of the posts from console gamers are damage control, trolling, etc and that proves that are butthurt?

MK-Professor

Feel free to prove that the majority of posts are damage control or trolling. Not agreeing with your (or TC's) sentiments counts under neither of those categories.

At the end of the day, both consoles and PC's offer advantages over one another and individuals choose based on whatthey want, not what youbelieve is best.

PC is arguably the best platform to play games, it simply doesn't have trade offs or disadvantages, but only advantages.

You used the word "arguably" which is correct.

It does have tradeoffs, just like consoles. Those tradeoffs are likely different from person to person, but they do exist.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

PC is arguably the best platform to play games, it simply doesn't have trade offs or disadvantages, but only advantages.

Assassin_87

You can read several posts in this very thread that offer legitimate reasons as to why some might prefer console gaming to PC gaming, my previous post included. The fact is, there is no "one size fits all" solution in video games. Everyone is looking for something different out of their gaming experience.

There is no accounting for taste picking console gaming over pc gaming is like picking dog food over kobe beef.

noscope-ak47

No one said anything about taste, necessarily.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

On this thread the majority of the posts from console gamers are damage control, trolling, etc and that proves that are butthurt?

MK-Professor

Feel free to prove that the majority of posts are damage control or trolling. Not agreeing with your (or TC's) sentiments counts under neither of those categories.

At the end of the day, both consoles and PC's offer advantages over one another and individuals choose based on whatthey want, not what youbelieve is best.

PC is arguably the best platform to play games, it simply doesn't have trade offs or disadvantages, but only advantages.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

PC is arguably the best platform to play games, it simply doesn't have trade offs or disadvantages, but only advantages.

Assassin_87

You can read several posts in this very thread that offer legitimate reasons as to why some might prefer console gaming to PC gaming, my previous post included. The fact is, there is no "one size fits all" solution in video games. Everyone is looking for something different out of their gaming experience.

you said on your previous post that most of your friends play on consoles etc how is this a trade off or disadvantage for pc gaming? I can say the same for me that most of my friends play on pc etc.

The shocking revelation now. Most of us don't give a flying sh!t about PC gaming.darkspineslayer

It's probably the most popular worldwide

[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

You can read several posts in this very thread that offer legitimate reasons as to why some might prefer console gaming to PC gaming, my previous post included. The fact is, there is no "one size fits all" solution in video games. Everyone is looking for something different out of their gaming experience.

MK-Professor

you said on your previous post that most of your friends play on consoles etc how is this a trade off or disadvantage for pc gaming? I can say the same for me that most of my friends play on pc etc.

It's a personal disadvantage for me. In the real world, all that matters is how much value PC gaming (or anything else) has to each individual.

The shocking revelation now. Most of us don't give a flying sh!t about PC gaming.darkspineslayer

i totally agree with ur comments.

cant be bothered with the hassle of building and the few other issues with PC.

who cares, dunno why PC gamers like yourself seem to have this need to keep boasting and saying we all need to follow the beat of their drum even though it doesnt suit us all.

razgriz_101

One can get a 2 ton Ford F150 4X4 truck for about 40k but why do that when for only 3X more, they could have got a Corvette ZR1 with 10x the performance ? :o Perhaps they just like trucks and besides, the ZR1 offers 20x less payload capacity. :P

For the record, when talking auto's, I'd take the ZR1 eight days a week. :D

Yeah. People with some hardware knowledge knows that PCs gives better value for your money. I often shake my head when consolites mention that console gaming is cheaper. In reality, it isn't.

I paid £297 for my GTX 670 and it's an absolute beast. Almost max Far Cry 3 out with 1080p. Now, compare that with console version of Far Cry 3...

I do agree though, that consoles should be under £100 to be realistic. They're not worth the price tags above that.

One can get a 2 ton Ford F150 4X4 truck for about 40k but why do that when for only 3X more, they could have got a Corvette ZR1 with 10x the performance ? :o Perhaps they just like trucks and besides, the ZR1 offers 20x less payload capacity. :P

For the record, when talking auto's, I'd take the ZR1 eight days a week. :D

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

One can get a 2 ton Ford F150 4X4 truck for about 40k but why do that when for only 3X more, they could have got a Corvette ZR1 with 10x the performance ? :o Perhaps they just like trucks and besides, the ZR1 offers 20x less payload capacity. :P

For the record, when talking auto's, I'd take the ZR1 eight days a week. :D

clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

One can get a 2 ton Ford F150 4X4 truck for about 40k but why do that when for only 3X more, they could have got a Corvette ZR1 with 10x the performance ? :o Perhaps they just like trucks and besides, the ZR1 offers 20x less payload capacity. :P

For the record, when talking auto's, I'd take the ZR1 eight days a week. :D

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Aston Martin > Your crappy plastic car.clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

One can get a 2 ton Ford F150 4X4 truck for about 40k but why do that when for only 3X more, they could have got a Corvette ZR1 with 10x the performance ? :o Perhaps they just like trucks and besides, the ZR1 offers 20x less payload capacity. :P

For the record, when talking auto's, I'd take the ZR1 eight days a week. :D

SecretPolice

American cars are known to have very poor handling.

They drive like buses.

Why can't PC gamers get through their horn-rimmed glasses that most of us console gamers just don't want to play fricken video games on a PC?

Is it that $%##@! hard to figure out????

it may be 7x stronger but in the end, the typical gamer would only get about a %1 higher enjoyment factor out of it. Sooo basically, no one cares except for graphics whores. by the way, you may want to look this up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returnsSilenthps

I highly doubt that the typical gamer would only get about a %1 higher enjoyment factor for going from
"720p or sub-hd, low settings, 25-30fps, small fov, no options for different control schemes, no mods, etc"
to
"2560x1440, 60fps, high settings, large fov, k/m(and controller), mods, etc"

Console hardware isn't profitable unless it's underpowered.

Even the WiiU is not profitable by hardware alone.

Usually, console makers sell the hardware for a loss and get the profit from the sales of the games and peripherals. (also online features)

You should not compare PC hardware with console hardware for a variety of reasons.

Consoles will always be behind the PC in hardware terms simply because the PC is an ever-evolving platform. (upgradable hardware)