The true next gen console releases in March 2013 (OUYA thread!)

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#51 campzor
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 ? lol... 2001 called...they want their garbage back
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#52 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The Wii was just a last gen system with a gimmick, the Wii U will end up being the same. Tablet controller might be ok, it might not, but that alone does not make it next gen and it does not make a jump in tech.

Regardless I will buy a Wii U because of Nintendo's 1st party. I buy every Nintendo and Sony system.

ShadowMoses900

That's really good you'll buy one. I've experienced all systems over the 7th gen.

I think once you get a Wii U in your house, all updated, spend a bit of time with it - I think you'll see potential for some really fantastic games. It's not all about 16 times anisotropic filters with super sampling anti aliasing etc etc.

I will buy one eventually, just not right now. Only game for it that impresses me is Zombie U (GS review was way off the mark IMO) and New Super Mario Bros 2 or whatever. Not enough right now, once Zelda comes out I'm going to be all over it.

I'm not opposed to the next Xbox either, but I don't see it offering much for me. But everyone is different and to each their own. PS4 and Wii U are no brainers for me.

Yeah. Plus, if you wait long enough, Zombi U will be about twenty bucks.

Naturally like all brand new consoles there is a lack of games. Smart decision to hold off for the time being.

Fun talking to you SM900.

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#53 emgesp
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

At worst, Wii-U's hardware power is equal to the PS3 and the 360. As stated countless times, console gens are defined by times of release, and not by tech jumps. And on the topic of tech jumps, Wii-U is a fairly decent jump away from Nintendo's previous console, Wii...

Also, how come you're back?

Face it, you may hate it and all, but resisiting the SW is impossible! :twisted:

DarkLink77

It is not defined by times of release, maybe to you on SW but to me it is when their is actual jump in quality and tech. The Wii U is a current gen system that will become a last gen system when the next Xbox releases.

I rarely post here anymore, this thread is not a fanboy thread so it's fine for now.

The idea that the Wii-U is not a jump in tech or quality is laughable. It has significantly more RAAM than the PS3 or the 360. It has a better GPU. It has a decent CPU. It has Blu-Ray, which was not around in '05. It has a tablet controller, again, not possible in '05. The hardware is, objectively, better. Anyone claiming otherwise is either a fool who is ignorant of what the Wii-U is or a blind fanboy.



- Yes, it has 2x more ram dedicated for gaming than the 360, but it's actually slower than the 360's ram.

- GPU is around a little over 2x more powerful than the 360's

- CPU is about as good as the 360's.

The touchscreen has potential, but name me one game that wouldn't still be just as fun without the touchscreen function. At the end of the day you have a next-gen console that is slightly more powerful than current gen with a touchscreen controller. Sorry, but the touchscreen doesn't interest me enough to warrant the $350 price tag. I might get one when it hits $199.99 and only if there are truly amazing games for it besides Mario/Zelda.

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#54 scoots9
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The "true next gen console" is less powerful than my phone. I'll pass.

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#55 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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LMFAO. Are people dumb enough to actually buy into the Ouya?mems_1224
I don't know, Kinect sells well.
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#56 Puckhog04
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Next gen isn't here despite what some people on here say. The Wii U is not a next gen console from what I have seen, it's just current gen with tablet controller. Next gen starts when there is a jump in tech.

People that say it's when a new console launches are wrong, by that logic if someone realesed a system with the specs of an N64 would you consider it next gen as well? No you wouldn't. The Wii U is not next gen, next gen will only start with PS4 and the next Xbox.

ShadowMoses900

There's a difference between a step back and a small step forward. The Wii U is a next generation Console, it's more powerful than all the current gen Console by a good margin. Next gen is PS4/720/Wii U. That's the way it is.

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#57 emgesp
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Next gen isn't here despite what some people on here say. The Wii U is not a next gen console from what I have seen, it's just current gen with tablet controller. Next gen starts when there is a jump in tech.

People that say it's when a new console launches are wrong, by that logic if someone realesed a system with the specs of an N64 would you consider it next gen as well? No you wouldn't. The Wii U is not next gen, next gen will only start with PS4 and the next Xbox.

Puckhog04

There's a difference between a step back and a small step forward. The Wii U is a next generation Console, it's more powerful than all the current gen Console by a good margin. Next gen is PS4/720/Wii U. That's the way it is.



Well, it is more powerful, but not in a big way. Also, I doubt Nintendo will develop games that are as visually stunning as Gears, Halo 4, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, etc. Nintendo games have a certain art style that doesn't require a lot of power. Metroid will probably be the best looking Nintendo franchise on the Wii U, but I doubt even that game will match Halo 4 in visuals.

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#58 hoola
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Ouya looks pretty cool. If the games are there I might get it because it is quite cheap.

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#59 ShadowDeathX
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I doubt anybody in SW care about that rubbish.

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I'm buying one. :)
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#60 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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The Ouya is a joke.
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#61 Cherokee_Jack
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I look forward to someone crashing a Ferrari because of this stupid thing.
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#62 MFDOOM1983
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I look forward to someone crashing a Ferrari because of this stupid thing.Cherokee_Jack
what?
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#63 LittleMac19
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That's an abomination!
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I look forward to someone crashing a Ferrari because of this stupid thing.MFDOOM1983
what?

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#65 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I look forward to someone crashing a Ferrari because of this stupid thing.psymon100

what?

I think he's making a reference to the gizmondo debacle.
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#66 gamecubepad
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Can't wait to get one. I'm keeping an eye out for a deal to get it around $75.

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#67 psymon100
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I think he's making a reference to the gizmondo debacle. MFDOOM1983

Found it. Gizmondo dumb seemed like a scofflaw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Eriksson#Car_crash

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#68 Cherokee_Jack
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What is the world coming to when you can make a Stefan Eriksson joke and no one gets it?

I suppose the same root cause is responsible for people getting excited about the Ouya. No sense of history.

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#69 mjf249
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I think I'll pass.

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What he said.

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#70 hofuldig
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there are phones coming out that are way more powerful than the ouya so its a POS really. anyone who waists there money on it are well not smart. if i want to play games with graphics as bad as this thing produces ill save $30 and go buy a PS2 from gamestop.

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#71 sukraj
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All i want is the next gen Xbox.

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#72 BlbecekBobecek
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All i want is the next gen Xbox.

sukraj

Its nice to see someone with such low demands.

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#73 RyviusARC
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I don't mind if this system became popular.

As long as it would allow more developers to create great games.

Then those games will most likely come to Windows and I would get them.

Some of the games I had the most fun with were simple indie games.

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#74 BlbecekBobecek
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I don't mind if this system became popular.

As long as it would allow more developers to create great games.

Then those games will most likely come to Windows and I would get them.

Some of the games I had the most fun with were simple indie games.

RyviusARC

Thats what I think too. All OUYA needs to be succesfull is a killer app. Currently I feel like people see its running on Tegra 3 and think all you will get on it is Angry Birds and Temple Run.

But the reason games like Angry Birds and Temple Run are popular is not because of Tegra 3, its because the nature of touchscreen devices like tablets and smartphones - it is impossible to control a more complicated game on them properly.

OUYA on the other hand is a proper console with proper controller. Games developed for it will be completely different than the shovelware we get on our iPads.

One real killer app and this console is an instant hit.

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#75 ziggyww
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You say its the quality of the current gen machines yet both of your screen shoots don't match the quality of any game that is years old on each console. Also it looks like garbage and no one wants it and also don't expect to be able to stream next gen graphics in real time at a high resolution. They could barley do it now and it still had lag and only seemed to work with good high end connection considering the average broadband speed is around 2 to 4mb. this box of crap isn't going to work and isn't going to lift of
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#76 silversix_
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may even surpass my expectations and sell over 70 systems.
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#77 ziggyww
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[QUOTE="sukraj"]

All i want is the next gen Xbox.

BlbecekBobecek

Its nice to see someone with such low demands.

And also a fanboy we don't know for sure what the PS4 of nextbox is going to bring yet he is already set on getting a xbox. Would suck if the ps4 turned out so much better but you got to play on a worse console because of being a fanboy. Just wait until both are shown then make up your mind thats what I'm doing. Both have to impress me to get my money this time round. I'm not going to get a PS4 just because I have a PS3
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#78 PAL360
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[QUOTE="sukraj"]

All i want is the next gen Xbox.

BlbecekBobecek

Its nice to see someone with such low demands.

Damage control already? That's impressive :P

We know nothing about Xbox 3 and PS4 yet, man.

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#79 GamerwillzPS
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[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Next gen isn't here despite what some people on here say. The Wii U is not a next gen console from what I have seen, it's just current gen with tablet controller. Next gen starts when there is a jump in tech.

People that say it's when a new console launches are wrong, by that logic if someone realesed a system with the specs of an N64 would you consider it next gen as well? No you wouldn't. The Wii U is not next gen, next gen will only start with PS4 and the next Xbox.

ShadowMoses900

It is the successor to the Wii which was a seventh gen console, therefore it is an eight generation console.

It's current gen. It's basically a 360 with a tablet. I don't consider it next gen.

Like i said, if they released a new system with the same specs as an N64 would you consider it next gen as well? Next gen has not arrived yet, the Wii is a last gen system and the Wii U is only current gen, soon to become last gen with the release of the next Xbox and PS4.

I agree. It's not a next-gen system in my book.

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#80 Blade8Aus
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What is the world coming to when you can make a Stefan Eriksson joke and no one gets it?

I suppose the same root cause is responsible for people getting excited about the Ouya. No sense of history.

Cherokee_Jack

It's an open system sold at a roughly breaking-even price. The customer doesn't depend on it succeeding commercially.

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#81 PAL360
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

It is the successor to the Wii which was a seventh gen console, therefore it is an eight generation console.

GamerwillzPS

It's current gen. It's basically a 360 with a tablet. I don't consider it next gen.

Like i said, if they released a new system with the same specs as an N64 would you consider it next gen as well? Next gen has not arrived yet, the Wii is a last gen system and the Wii U is only current gen, soon to become last gen with the release of the next Xbox and PS4.

I agree. It's not a next-gen system in my book.

Powerful enough or not, WiiU is the first 'next gen' console, just like Wii is in the same generation of PS3 and 360. It's hardware is disappointing, i agree, but that's another story.

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#82 Blaz3_fox
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Next gen isn't here despite what some people on here say. The Wii U is not a next gen console from what I have seen, it's just current gen with tablet controller. Next gen starts when there is a jump in tech.

People that say it's when a new console launches are wrong, by that logic if someone realesed a system with the specs of an N64 would you consider it next gen as well? No you wouldn't. The Wii U is not next gen, next gen will only start with PS4 and the next Xbox.

ShadowMoses900
Wii U is far beyond current gen. Note that launch titles on ps3 and 360 looked pretty meh, and not much of a step up from the previous gen either. I firmly believe that ps4 and 720 are going to use Wii U as a target for what they have to reach for and make some minor hardware improvements on that, because there's no reason to go overboard, because nobody will buy them, and everyone will buy the far cheaper Wii U. Sony and m$ aren't stupid, they saw the success Wii had. Get ready to be underwhelmed by the numbers. As for the ouya, I don't want to play mobile "games" on my tv. I don't want to play them at all. Flop console, flop idea, nope. This mobile game market is awful because it's full of what are basically flash games. 5 minutes of fun, 0 value for money.
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#83 Zurrur
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I thought this system was a joke

Why the hell would anyone buy system dedicated for multiplatform indie games...

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#84 mooooo99
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i thought this had died.. wasnt it supposed to be out by now? anyways, it could be an interesting piece of tech, it may even keep the really awesome and super popular onlive alive..

anyway i think i will be passing on this..

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#85 Cheleman
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lol

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#86 BlbecekBobecek
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I thought this system was a joke

Why the hell would anyone buy system dedicated for multiplatform indie games...

Zurrur

Uhm... to play indie games? :roll:

Also there are big names among the developers that are jumping on the train (like minecraft dev) and many of the games to be expected shall due to the uniqueness of OUYA most likely be exclusive (or at least require you to buy a controller to your Tegra 3 device to play them).

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#87 BlbecekBobecek
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i thought this had died.. wasnt it supposed to be out by now? anyways, it could be an interesting piece of tech, it may even keep the really awesome and super popular onlive alive..

anyway i think i will be passing on this..

mooooo99

It hadnt died, it had a target of USD 900 000 on kickstarter and it earned over 8 mil.

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#88 Heil68
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No exclusives?
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#89 BlbecekBobecek
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No exclusives?Heil68

OUYA actually is getting some exclusives already and because of the open dev platform it is safe to expect tons of exclusives on it.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/posts/270629

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#91 balfe1990
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It doesn't matter because when the next Xbox and PS4 are shown, you will see what next gen is really about and the Wii U will look obsolete by the real next gen standards. You can go by time if you want, but that's not where the progress is, progress is done by actual tech advancement.

The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen, no amount of wikipedia articles or random website quotes is going to change that.

ShadowMoses900
Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.
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#92 balfe1990
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No exclusives?Heil68
Of course there'll be exclusives. The very nature of the platform indicates that. It's open to all, there aren't any beauacratic suits presiding over it.
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#93 PhazonBlazer
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It doesn't matter because when the next Xbox and PS4 are shown, you will see what next gen is really about and the Wii U will look obsolete by the real next gen standards. You can go by time if you want, but that's not where the progress is, progress is done by actual tech advancement.

The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen, no amount of wikipedia articles or random website quotes is going to change that.

balfe1990

Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.

He already claimed that the Wii was a 6th gen console, so that means Nintendo released two consoles in the 6th generation!:shock:

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#94 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It doesn't matter because when the next Xbox and PS4 are shown, you will see what next gen is really about and the Wii U will look obsolete by the real next gen standards. You can go by time if you want, but that's not where the progress is, progress is done by actual tech advancement.

The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen, no amount of wikipedia articles or random website quotes is going to change that.

PhazonBlazer

Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.

He already claimed that the Wii was a 6th gen console, so that means Nintendo released two consoles in the 6th generation!:shock:

And they released a 7th Gen machine seven years after said generation had started 0.0
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#95 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It doesn't matter because when the next Xbox and PS4 are shown, you will see what next gen is really about and the Wii U will look obsolete by the real next gen standards. You can go by time if you want, but that's not where the progress is, progress is done by actual tech advancement.

The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen, no amount of wikipedia articles or random website quotes is going to change that.

PhazonBlazer

Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.

He already claimed that the Wii was a 6th gen console, so that means Nintendo released two consoles in the 6th generation!:shock:

I wonder why everyone even spends time discussing this ridiculous nonsense with him. Wii U is nextgen no matter what that guy says lol. :lol:

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#96 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It doesn't matter because when the next Xbox and PS4 are shown, you will see what next gen is really about and the Wii U will look obsolete by the real next gen standards. You can go by time if you want, but that's not where the progress is, progress is done by actual tech advancement.

The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen, no amount of wikipedia articles or random website quotes is going to change that.

balfe1990

Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.

The Wii and the Gamecube were both in the same generation. The Wii was just a Gamecube with motion controls, it isn't even HD, it was a last gen system. The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen.

There is no way around this, sorry. If think the Wii U is next gen you are setting yourself up for disappointment, the PS4 and 720 are going to show you what real next gen is about.

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#97 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It doesn't matter because when the next Xbox and PS4 are shown, you will see what next gen is really about and the Wii U will look obsolete by the real next gen standards. You can go by time if you want, but that's not where the progress is, progress is done by actual tech advancement.

The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen, no amount of wikipedia articles or random website quotes is going to change that.

ShadowMoses900

Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.

The Wii and the Gamecube were both in the same generation. The Wii was just a Gamecube with motion controls, it isn't even HD, it was a last gen system. The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen.

There is no way around this, sorry. If think the Wii U is next gen you are setting yourself up for disappointment, the PS4 and 720 are going to show you what real next gen is about.

Whatever you say Mooses. I'd like to say I missed you, but alas...
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#98 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"] Going by that logic, the Wii and the Gamecube belonged to the same generation., and only the PS360 competed in the seventh generation. And I thought you left this place because of the fanboys? So, shoo. OT, I think the Ouya Will be a great platform for Indie developers to shine. Either that, or it gets raped and pillaged by pirates almost immediately. Still, I'm buying it. For that pricetag, you can hardly go wrong.balfe1990

The Wii and the Gamecube were both in the same generation. The Wii was just a Gamecube with motion controls, it isn't even HD, it was a last gen system. The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen.

There is no way around this, sorry. If think the Wii U is next gen you are setting yourself up for disappointment, the PS4 and 720 are going to show you what real next gen is about.

Whatever you say Mooses. I'd like to say I missed you, but alas...

You're such a dick to me, I hate you.

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#99 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The Wii and the Gamecube were both in the same generation. The Wii was just a Gamecube with motion controls, it isn't even HD, it was a last gen system. The Wii U is only current gen soon to be last gen.

There is no way around this, sorry. If think the Wii U is next gen you are setting yourself up for disappointment, the PS4 and 720 are going to show you what real next gen is about.

ShadowMoses900

Whatever you say Mooses. I'd like to say I missed you, but alas...

You're such a dick to me, I hate you.

<3
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#100 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"] Whatever you say Mooses. I'd like to say I missed you, but alas...balfe1990

You're such a dick to me, I hate you.

<3

Too bad we can't talk in real life.