The two most anticipated RPGs of 2011 - Dragon Age II vs. The Witcher 2

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#101 jasonharris48
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I can't believe how people can praise the Witcher so much.

The main thing people hate about DA2 is its combat (even though it is the same as DA:O, which people apparently loved).

I just find it very hypocritical when people bash DA2's combat, is the Witcher's any better ? Hermits also act like the Witcher is the second comming of Jesus just because it is a PC exclusive and made by a largely unknown Polish studio.

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I'm a console gamer for the most part and I found the first Witcher to be the best RPG this gen.

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#102 CTR360
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for this poll DA2 overall ME3 skyrim dark souls last story xenonlade
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#103 kozzy1234
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cant wait for The Witcher2 (:

Loved Dragon Age on PC, 2nd one hasnt looked good in pics and videos but I trust Bioware to make an amazing game.

The Witcher2 though is goign to be amazing. The first Witcher is arguably the best rpg this gen and 2nd looks even better.

ME3 and the new Elderscrolls also looks great to. I am hoping the new Demon Souls game is awesome but I was very dissapointed with the first one, guess thats what high expectations does sometimes. Also looking foward to Risen2, The Old Republic and DIablo3.

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#104 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"]

I can't believe how people can praise the Witcher so much.

The main thing people hate about DA2 is its combat (even though it is the same as DA:O, which people apparently loved).

I just find it very hypocritical when people bash DA2's combat, is the Witcher's any better ? Hermits also act like the Witcher is the second comming of Jesus just because it is a PC exclusive and made by a largely unknown Polish studio.

jasonharris48

I'm a console gamer for the most part and I found the first Witcher to be the best RPG this gen.

Ok, can you tell me why you found it to be the best RPG the gen ? Please, do not use things like "It has the best story", tell me why, according to you it has the best story. I like the Witcher but people praise it sometimes for no reason
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#105 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="svenus97"]

I can't believe how people can praise the Witcher so much.

The main thing people hate about DA2 is its combat (even though it is the same as DA:O, which people apparently loved).

I just find it very hypocritical when people bash DA2's combat, is the Witcher's any better ? Hermits also act like the Witcher is the second comming of Jesus just because it is a PC exclusive and made by a largely unknown Polish studio.

svenus97

I'm a console gamer for the most part and I found the first Witcher to be the best RPG this gen.

Ok, can you tell me why you found it to be the best RPG the gen ? Please, do not use things like "It has the best story", tell me why, according to you it has the best story. I like the Witcher but people praise it sometimes for no reason

Loved the story, loved the characters, loved the game world, loved the graphics, good atmosphere, great support after the game shipped and enjoyed the music. The combat could be improved but its up there with Dragon Age, ME2, Lost Odyssey, Risen and Fallout New Vegas as my fav rpgs this gen.

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#106 svenus97
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Dragon Effect 2 can barely be called an RPG.ampiva
This is what I hate about people, pure ignorance. How do you know it isn't an RPG, did you make any choices in your playthrough so far, did any combat, talked to any of the characters ? I bet you are judging this from the console gameplay.
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#107 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I'm a console gamer for the most part and I found the first Witcher to be the best RPG this gen.

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Ok, can you tell me why you found it to be the best RPG the gen ? Please, do not use things like "It has the best story", tell me why, according to you it has the best story. I like the Witcher but people praise it sometimes for no reason

Loved the story, loved the characters, loved the game world, loved the graphics, good atmosphere, great support after the game shipped and enjoyed the music. The combat could be improved but its up there with Dragon Age, ME2, Lost Odyssey, Risen and Fallout New Vegas as my fav rpgs this gen.

What did you love about the story, the characters and the game world ?
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#108 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="ampiva"]Dragon Effect 2 can barely be called an RPG.svenus97
This is what I hate about people, pure ignorance. How do you know it isn't an RPG, did you make any choices in your playthrough so far, did any combat, talked to any of the characters ? I bet you are judging this from the console gameplay.

The ironic thing is, that DA II will be more of a traditional RPG than the Witcher.

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#109 max-Emadness
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the witcher 2

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#110 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="svenus97"] Ok, can you tell me why you found it to be the best RPG the gen ? Please, do not use things like "It has the best story", tell me why, according to you it has the best story. I like the Witcher but people praise it sometimes for no reasonsvenus97

Loved the story, loved the characters, loved the game world, loved the graphics, good atmosphere, great support after the game shipped and enjoyed the music. The combat could be improved but its up there with Dragon Age, ME2, Lost Odyssey, Risen and Fallout New Vegas as my fav rpgs this gen.

What did you love about the story, the characters and the game world ?

Because the characters changed and had lots depth, also Geralt is one of the best characters this gen, easily. The way you control how he actually is and how he reacts to certain things based on your play and decisions. World was awesome, because it wasn't some generic fantasy world where all the elves, humans, dwarves etc are good and the monsters are evil. Elves, dwarves, and other non-humans were basically prejudiced by humans and Geralt could actually affiliate with that role or go with the non-human side, also he could be completely neutral. Also, things you did early in the story changed the game completely in the mid to late game, what other RPG does that this gen? Almost none if even any.
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#111 waltefmoney
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Mass Effect 3. And also Dark Souls.

badtaker

ME3 = RPG :o

So you've played ME3? Lucky.. :o

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#112 110million
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[QUOTE="svenus97"]

I can't believe how people can praise the Witcher so much.

The main thing people hate about DA2 is its combat (even though it is the same as DA:O, which people apparently loved).

I just find it very hypocritical when people bash DA2's combat, is the Witcher's any better ? Hermits also act like the Witcher is the second comming of Jesus just because it is a PC exclusive and made by a largely unknown Polish studio.

jasonharris48

I'm a console gamer for the most part and I found the first Witcher to be the best RPG this gen.

I'm mostly a PC gamer, but its my fav too. :P Well I'll take a crack at it, What bothers me about DA and DA2, is them going farther and farther away from the deep RPG elements of Bioware of the past. I love Baldur's Gate (and II) and neverwinter nights. Building characters is what makes western RPGs in my opinion, and DA1's was a pretty strange dumb down of a typical DnD system, it was very simplified, and you can learn everything relevant to your sub-class in one character. DA2 also suffers from removing full customization of your allies, it made ME2 better, but thats a TPS. The Witcher's customization is true was not grand, but it was not a DnD RPG, but it had quite a bit for what it was, expectations are different when its the first game from a new developer. Bioware used to be the king of RPGs, now a new developer that pretty much came out of no where was able to top their recent works. (of course, in my opinion) The Witcher 2 is made with the mindset that games get too dumbed down, one of the producers said hes put hundreds of hours into Demon's Souls and can understand when players are upset with things being dumbed down, this is the kind of mind set I want making my games. One of the DA2 devs said players don't like invisible dice in the background, so they wanted to make the gameplay more action based, and its like you know what, thats like spitting in the face of baldur's gate era Bioware, who the **** do they think they are? Practically mocking their own systems.
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#113 call_of_duty_10
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DA2's combat is EXACTLY like DA1.You dont HAVE to play it as a button masher!

Take a look at this.

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#114 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Loved the story, loved the characters, loved the game world, loved the graphics, good atmosphere, great support after the game shipped and enjoyed the music. The combat could be improved but its up there with Dragon Age, ME2, Lost Odyssey, Risen and Fallout New Vegas as my fav rpgs this gen.

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What did you love about the story, the characters and the game world ?

Because the characters changed and had lots depth, also Geralt is one of the best characters this gen, easily. The way you control how he actually is and how he reacts to certain things based on your play and decisions. World was awesome, because it wasn't some generic fantasy world where all the elves, humans, dwarves etc are good and the monsters are evil. Elves, dwarves, and other non-humans were basically prejudiced by humans and Geralt could actually affiliate with that role or go with the non-human side, also he could be completely neutral. Also, things you did early in the story changed the game completely in the mid to late game, what other RPG does that this gen? Almost none if even any.

Characters had lots of depth? Oh please... there were maybe 3 very good characters, every other were below average. Geralt is one of the best characters this gen ? You know next to nothing about him, unless you read the books. Yes, the world is really good. Things in the beginning of the game later changed the game completely ? Oh yea... completely, if you let the Sqoia'teal have the weapons you couldn't do one quest, that is so mind blowing.

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#115 jwsoul
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To many people overate the importance of the Witcher. I preferred DAO to the Witch it had better characters and a greater amount of things todo. I also preferred the more tactical combat as opposed to 3rd person action RPG mechanics. I am equally hyped for both overall tho.

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#116 110million
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="svenus97"] What did you love about the story, the characters and the game world ? svenus97

Because the characters changed and had lots depth, also Geralt is one of the best characters this gen, easily. The way you control how he actually is and how he reacts to certain things based on your play and decisions. World was awesome, because it wasn't some generic fantasy world where all the elves, humans, dwarves etc are good and the monsters are evil. Elves, dwarves, and other non-humans were basically prejudiced by humans and Geralt could actually affiliate with that role or go with the non-human side, also he could be completely neutral. Also, things you did early in the story changed the game completely in the mid to late game, what other RPG does that this gen? Almost none if even any.

Characters had lots of depth? Oh please... there were maybe 3 very good characters, every other were below average. Geralt is one of the best characters this gen ? You know next to nothing about him, unless you read the books. Yes, the world is really good. Things in the beginning of the game later changed the game completely ? Oh yea... completely, if you let the Sqoia'teal have the weapons you couldn't do one quest, that is so mind blowing.

The Witcher's choices go deeper than that. It does choices far better than DA or ME2, a lot of them lead to different scenerios and there are like 3 major branches of the main story depending on who you support (or no one), in DA if you had no choices ever, it wouldn't change the game much.
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#117 gillri
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looking more forward to ME3 than both, the other 2 arent cinematic enough for me

oh and Dark Souls also, which look to be as good if Demon Souls is anything to go by

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#118 Twin-Blade
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I don't have a PC capable or running the loading screen for Witcher 2 so I'd have to vote DA2. Personally, I'm most hyped for ME3.

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#119 Medic_B
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Too many to choose from

Mass Effect 3

The Witcher 2

Dark Souls

Elder Scroll skyrim

Dragon Age 2

The Last Guardian

Final Fantasy 13II

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#120 topsemag55
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The Witcher 2 looks good and all but I never finished the first... just too boring. (the bad dialogue/character voices don't help).

Karnage108

I take it you missed out then on the free patch to the Witcher EE, which totally rewrote the English translation.

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#121 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="svenus97"]

I can't believe how people can praise the Witcher so much.

The main thing people hate about DA2 is its combat (even though it is the same as DA:O, which people apparently loved).

I just find it very hypocritical when people bash DA2's combat, is the Witcher's any better ? Hermits also act like the Witcher is the second comming of Jesus just because it is a PC exclusive and made by a largely unknown Polish studio.

svenus97

I'm a console gamer for the most part and I found the first Witcher to be the best RPG this gen.

Ok, can you tell me why you found it to be the best RPG the gen ? Please, do not use things like "It has the best story", tell me why, according to you it has the best story. I like the Witcher but people praise it sometimes for no reason

I do admit the combat wasn't the best. But I did favor the story, characters and the choices you made. It wasn't black & white like Mass Effect or other Bioware titles. Without listing any spoilers when I made decisions it wasn't just a change in dialogue, White Wolf didn't just make a crude remark. My choices actually had a impact through out the game.

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#122 TheMoreYouOwn
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Dark Souls.

Edit (Gah...forgot Skyrim...that's lookin' pretty slick also.)

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#123 killa4lyfe
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I can't decide....The Witcher 2 looks amazingly polished, Dark Souls is hyped beyond no reason just for the fact that its the sequel to DS, and ME 2 is the sequel to my personal GOTY. I think all will be amazing games to be honest, but DA 2 will be the step-child of the pack. Also I need more info about Skyrim to get excited. :)
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#124 zekere
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You mean Skyrim vs Dark Souls, ow wait, I'm getting both .