The Ultimate Showdown (Crysis 2 vs Killzone 3)

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#51 treedoor
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

Halo, Halo, and Halo. You sure delivered some major ownage there, hahahaha

Respawn-d

Bungie is so pathetic, they made their sequel look like a prequel. what have they brought on the game's industry!

AT last it is time.

You really don't know how to bash Halo do you?

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#52 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

Bungie is so pathetic, they made their sequel look like a prequel. what have they brought on the game's industry!

treedoor

AT last it is time.

You really don't know how to bash Halo do you?

Pic makes about as much sense as that STATE of the industry lems keep poping up.

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#53 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

Bungie is so pathetic, they made their sequel look like a prequel. what have they brought on the game's industry!

Firebird-5

AT last it is time.

I don't own an Xbox 360, nor have I played Halo for any great amount of time, but isn't Halo Reach a different story?

they all were. though ODST is the one that can be marked as a rehash, not even a rehash, because it was dramatically different in story and quite different in gameplay. but the game wasn't worth the $60 for people who already owned Halo 3.

and there was no Halo game in 2008. what a waste of time in MS paint.

don't know why he tried telling me I never touched the KZ series, then he represents that he hasn't played Halo at all.

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#54 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

Bungie is so pathetic, they made their sequel look like a prequel. what have they brought on the game's industry!

Firebird-5

AT last it is time.

I don't own an Xbox 360, nor have I played Halo for any great amount of time, but isn't Halo Reach a different story?

yes reach takes place before right before halo 1

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#55 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

AT last it is time.

Respawn-d

You really don't know how to bash Halo do you?

Pic makes about as much sense as that STATE of the industry lems keep poping up.

Three different games, three different developers, three different publishers, vs. a single game series expected to maintain internal cohesion.

No, your comparison makes absolutely no sense at all.

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#56 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

AT last it is time.

HavocV3

I don't own an Xbox 360, nor have I played Halo for any great amount of time, but isn't Halo Reach a different story?

they all were. though ODST is the one that can be marked as a rehash, not Halo 3 or Reach.

and there was no Halo game in 2008. what a waste of time in MS paint.

don't know why he tried telling me I never touched the KZ series, then he represents that he hasn't played Halo at all.

But there was a halo game in 2008 :P. And this pic makes just as much sense as the state of the industry you agreed with :P

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#57 gamecubepad
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Wow. Some real quality discussion going on here.

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#58 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

You really don't know how to bash Halo do you?

Firebird-5

Pic makes about as much sense as that STATE of the industry lems keep poping up.

Three different games, three different developers, three different publishers, vs. a single game series expected to maintain internal cohesion.

No, your comparison makes absolutely no sense at all.

lems bugging cows that kz2 is just a generic fps clone is the same as cows bugging lems halo reach is just a halo3 clone. Even if they are from diff devs
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#59 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] Pic makes about as much sense as that STATE of the industry lems keep poping up.

Respawn-d

Three different games, three different developers, three different publishers, vs. a single game series expected to maintain internal cohesion.

No, your comparison makes absolutely no sense at all.

lems bugging cows that kz2 is just a generic fps clone is the same as cows bugging lems halo reach is just a halo3 clone. Even if they are from diff devs

Notice how 'Halo Reach' and 'Halo 3' both have 'Halo' in the name?

Doesn't change that fact that 2 out of 3 games on the image are multiplatform. And for the reasons stated above.

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#60 AAllxxjjnn
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Crysis 2 has better art direction.
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#61 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

Three different games, three different developers, three different publishers, vs. a single game series expected to maintain internal cohesion.

No, your comparison makes absolutely no sense at all.

Firebird-5

lems bugging cows that kz2 is just a generic fps clone is the same as cows bugging lems halo reach is just a halo3 clone. Even if they are from diff devs

Notice how 'Halo Reach' and 'Halo 3' both have 'Halo' in the name?

Doesn't change that fact that 2 out of 3 games on the image are multiplatform. And for the reasons stated above.

halo or kz2 it doesnt matter. Games should never be gameplay clones of other games whether from a diff dev or a past game in the series. A lem calling a major ps3 exclusive a clone of a past mw2 game is just as annoying as a cow calling a halo clone a clone of a past halo game.
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#62 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] lems bugging cows that kz2 is just a generic fps clone is the same as cows bugging lems halo reach is just a halo3 clone. Even if they are from diff devsRespawn-d

Notice how 'Halo Reach' and 'Halo 3' both have 'Halo' in the name?

Doesn't change that fact that 2 out of 3 games on the image are multiplatform. And for the reasons stated above.

halo or kz2 it doesnt matter. Games should never be gameplay clones of other games whether from a diff dev or a past game in the series. A lem calling a major ps3 exclusive a clone of a past mw2 game is just as annoying as a cow calling a halo clone a clone of a past halo game.

Halo games are supposed to be similar to each other. That's why it's a series. Devs capitalising on the success of MW2 however... it saddens me that three seperate games from three seperate developers look extremely similar.

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#63 BPoole96
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From what I've seen so far Killzone 3 impresses me more

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#64 gamecubepad
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Halo games are supposed to be similar to each other. That's why it's a series. Devs capitalising on the success of MW2 however... it saddens me that three seperate games from three seperate developers look extremely similar.

Firebird-5

Well, to be fair KZ2 was being shown in 2006 so...

Anyway, does anybody remember the term "brown games". No, it's not games that involve doody. It's what we used to call games during the Quake era when everybody was licensing id tech and the games were all nearly the same in looks since they didn't have per-pixel shading back in the day. There was a lot more cloning going on back then.

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#65 BURSTIIIFIRE
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"]

The current state off the industry from the eyes of a lem taken from 3 separate games

chronocross668

Wich one is halo reach ? I can't tell difference the're like a gen behind killzone 3 is not even funny

Nice job on posting the worst Reach shot...try again please :lol:

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#66 hoola
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Why is Killzone 3 in the competition?

More like Rage vs Crysis 2

i_am_interested

rage isnt the technical powerhouse that these two are, rage's strength is that it runs at 60 fps and has amazing artist detail on its megatexture landscape the powerhouse game from id is going to be doom 4

Oh wow. Knowing it, it will absolutely stun us.

Anyways. Neither of those looked good. Killzone probably has the beast weapon models in any game ever created, but the characters and floor/ceilings/walls objects don't look very good. Crysis 2 only looks okay.

Crysis will not be dethroned until either Project Offset comes out (looking kinda iffy right now, unfortunately :cry: ), or until Doom 4 comes out.

I am excited to see if id releases Doom 4 at the same time that Valve releases HL3 with a new engine. It would be 2003/2004 all over again. "Buh Buh Half life 2 is teh more life-like"...."Buh Buh Doom 3 is teh more detailed". If you think the graphics threads are bad now, you should have been around when these games were coming out.

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#68 HavocV3
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] lems bugging cows that kz2 is just a generic fps clone is the same as cows bugging lems halo reach is just a halo3 clone. Even if they are from diff devsRespawn-d

Notice how 'Halo Reach' and 'Halo 3' both have 'Halo' in the name?

Doesn't change that fact that 2 out of 3 games on the image are multiplatform. And for the reasons stated above.

halo or kz2 it doesnt matter. Games should never be gameplay clones of other games whether from a diff dev or a past game in the series. A lem calling a major ps3 exclusive a clone of a past mw2 game is just as annoying as a cow calling a halo clone a clone of a past halo game.

I didn't go far enough to call Killzone a gameplay-clone:? I really only said that Killzone, from looking at 3 basic screenshots, looks closer to a generic shooter like COD/MOH than Halo does. , I know about the weighted controls, or whatever you want to call it....you don't have to put words in my mouth, never did I outright call it generic.

and my out-of-spite response was me annoyed by a cow(s) who constantly called Halo generic. if you put a Halo picture under run-of-the-mill games like COD or MOH, would you honestly say Halo is generic? or that there were some notable similarities....besides the obvious genre-similarity. gun, HUD, not those, I'm talking some mildly specific details.

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#69 Human-after-all
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

Killzone 3 looks like every other shooter out there (brown/grey, bloom, blur, blood spatter on the screen, EOTech sights on every gun, see MOH and MW2). At least Crysis 2 is somewhat interesting.

Respawn-d
You clearly havent ever touchedkz2 if your trying to compare it to mw2 or moh

I touched it and was boring after a few hours online.
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#70 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

Killzone 3 looks like every other shooter out there (brown/grey, bloom, blur, blood spatter on the screen, EOTech sights on every gun, see MOH and MW2). At least Crysis 2 is somewhat interesting.

Human-after-all
You clearly havent ever touchedkz2 if your trying to compare it to mw2 or moh

I touched it and was boring after a few hours online.

He's right KZ2 looks dull and moody. Note that I said looks, even though from what I've heard the gameplay isn't as good as MW2 etc.
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#71 dakan45
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Trailer? Killzone 3, crysis 2 trailer was the E3 tech demo with skipped parts, infact i cant believe they even dare to pass this as a new trailer, oh and for the reccord so far all crysis 2 trailers are awful.
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#72 SaudiFury
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Good thing i'm buying both..

but if you ask me right now what i'll probably get more of a kick out of, it will be Crysis 2 for sure...

because at the end of the day i think i'll still wish i could kill Rico....

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#73 treedoor
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[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="Respawn-d"] lems bugging cows that kz2 is just a generic fps clone is the same as cows bugging lems halo reach is just a halo3 clone. Even if they are from diff devsRespawn-d

Notice how 'Halo Reach' and 'Halo 3' both have 'Halo' in the name?

Doesn't change that fact that 2 out of 3 games on the image are multiplatform. And for the reasons stated above.

halo or kz2 it doesnt matter. Games should never be gameplay clones of other games whether from a diff dev or a past game in the series. A lem calling a major ps3 exclusive a clone of a past mw2 game is just as annoying as a cow calling a halo clone a clone of a past halo game.

It doesn't even have to be a lem that posts that picture.

Anyone who posts it is right to say the current state of the industry is a bunch of FPS games that are all very similar to each other. Doesn't matter if it's a cow, a sheep, or w/e. It is true. I don't think I know a single person who thinks there isn't an oversaturation of fps games out today that are all very similar to one another. That picture exists as proof that there's multiple devs striving to make clones of each others games to capitalize on the current industry trends.

But seriously calling Halo a clone of Halo? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard from a cow.........Halo looks like Halo because it's Halo. Mario wears a **** red hat in each game because he's Mario, and Mario wears a red hat.

You truly don't know how to bash Halo.....Just as I said earlier in this thread.

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#74 TehKillzonelova
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From the footage, you can obviously tell KZ2/3, U2, and GOW3 alllook much better graphically, and TC, stop using low quality pics of KZ3...

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#75 KingsMessenger
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From the footage, you can obviously tell KZ2/3, U2, and GOW3 alllook much better graphically, and TC, stop using low quality pics of KZ3...

TehKillzonelova

If you take off the fanboy goggles, you could tell that Crysis 2 is EASILY on the same level as those games. And if they polish up the weak spots, it will certainly pull ahead.

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#76 Bazooka_4ME
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Good thing i'm buying both..

but if you ask me right now what i'll probably get more of a kick out of, it will be Crysis 2 for sure...

because at the end of the day i think i'll still wish i could kill Rico....

SaudiFury
Better or worse, GG could end up making you play Rico for co-op :P
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#77 TehKillzonelova
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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

From the footage, you can obviously tell KZ2/3, U2, and GOW3 alllook much better graphically, and TC, stop using low quality pics of KZ3...

If you take off the fanboy goggles, you could tell that Crysis 2 is EASILY on the same level as those games. And if they polish up the weak spots, it will certainly pull ahead.

*looks for fanboy goggles*. I dont seem to have mine....Wait! Can i borrow yours?
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#78 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

From the footage, you can obviously tell KZ2/3, U2, and GOW3 alllook much better graphically, and TC, stop using low quality pics of KZ3...

KingsMessenger

If you take off the fanboy goggles, you could tell that Crysis 2 is EASILY on the same level as those games. And if they polish up the weak spots, it will certainly pull ahead.

After seeing this pic of crysis 2, KZ3>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crysis 2

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#79 siddhu33
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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="TehKillzonelova"]

From the footage, you can obviously tell KZ2/3, U2, and GOW3 alllook much better graphically, and TC, stop using low quality pics of KZ3...

ps3_owns_360Wii

If you take off the fanboy goggles, you could tell that Crysis 2 is EASILY on the same level as those games. And if they polish up the weak spots, it will certainly pull ahead.

After seeing this pic of crysis 2, KZ3>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crysis 2

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Do you know how old that build is?

Seriously?

That's like, before Pre-Alpha.

Comparing that to Killzone 3 is just stupid.

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#80 dakan45
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Do you know how old that build is?

Seriously?

That's like, before Pre-Alpha.

Comparing that to Killzone 3 is just stupid.siddhu33

Needles to point out crytek said their alpha looks better than killzone 2.

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#81 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]Do you know how old that build is?

Seriously?

That's like, before Pre-Alpha.

Comparing that to Killzone 3 is just stupid.dakan45

Needles to point out crytek said their alpha looks better than killzone 2.

That's not their Alpha.
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#82 jg4xchamp
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I thought Crysis 2 was visually more impressive to look at. Hell rage looked better. Outside some damn good animations(and I guess the lighting) I wasn't exactly "wowed" by Killzone 3 footage. It's fine though the PC footage of Crysis 2 will be light year superior to what Killzone 3 is doing. The fanboys on this board keep forgetting that on a technical level Crysis Warhead still takes a royal dump on what the console shooters have done.
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#83 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]Do you know how old that build is?

Seriously?

That's like, before Pre-Alpha.

Comparing that to Killzone 3 is just stupid.AAllxxjjnn

Needles to point out crytek said their alpha looks better than killzone 2.

That's not their Alpha.

What else could they be? Their beta? Thats even worse.
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http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7669/gsye310kz3part14.gif http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6143/gsye310kz3part13.gif http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6443/gsye310kz3part21.gif Killzone 3 rocks :D
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#85 Esnedon
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Needles to point out crytek said their alpha looks better than killzone 2.

dakan45

That's not their Alpha.

What else could they be? Their beta? Thats even worse.

No, games just pop into existence when they come to the alpha stage.

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#86 Episode_Eve
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As far as which trailer is more impressive: KZ3. I didn't like how the Crysis 2 trailer cut so much and the screen flashed a lot.
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#87 gpuking
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KZ3 pre alpha looks like a CGI flick from the trailer and the gameplay looks even more epic. Crysis 2 has got some insane lighting but I give the nod to kz3 for now. The final version of kz3 will most likely blow it out of the water if the transition from kz2 pre alpha to final is any indication.

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#88 Infinite_Access
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Kz3 has my attention more.

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#89 PAL360
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Crysis2

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#90 Mestitia
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On consoles KZ3 is by far the most impressive technical marvel. Crysis 2 console footage was really dissapointing. I'm sure the PC footage will pwn all.

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#91 Jesus_on_fire
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Another day, Another Opiniated Subjective which game has better graphics thread.

How about y'know we actually wait until the games actually come out so we judge the quality of a games graphics then?

[spoiler] Even though it wont change anything :P [/spoiler]

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#92 racing1750
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Crysis 2.
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#93 BattleforAzerot
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Let me remind you, that this thread was NOT about PC vs consoles.This thread was about which game trailer was more impressive.Killzone 3 looks pretty good actually, but Crysis 2 looks better.

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[QUOTE="Afrojitsu"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

yeah man, it's so different and new

looking at this picture.

I wonder why Killzone fanboys try to mark Halo as generic.

So they have similar blood effects....

whoopie?

three games with similar gameplay and piss poor story have teh same look and feel to guns and completely scripted = there really isn't much separating them, cod started in wwii fighting nazis, then insurgents, and then you got kz2 fighting space nazis. The biggest seperation in terms of gameplay is kz2 having totally craptacular controls. other wise buy any 3 of them, get extremely similar experiences.
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#96 GreyFoXX4
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Oh I see, Halo changed to a 1 number screen for its gun. Think I like this one better, lets me know where I stand with my ammo lol.

P.S. Think this is really copying a tad more. Since the games you posted in your pic all have something in common and that is realistic weapons for the most part. While Halo is definitly fictious aswell as Doom 3. Wonder what the chances of 2 fictious games have the same kind of weapon lol?

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Both trailers are meh. Crysis 2 because my interest in it is still low. Killzone 3 because I've expected to be blown away but it did not happen. GG became lazy.

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#98 Tessellation
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Crysis 2,nothing comes close.
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#99 Ondoval
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:P

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#100 Chutebox
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I have seen Crysis 2 and Killzone 3 in action and Killzone 3 appears to have much better graphicsKevinButlerVP
I wouldn't say much better, but I do believe better.

Wow, close poll!