The Ultimate Showdown (Crysis 2 vs Killzone 3)

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#101 Szminsky
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Killzone 3 (so far)

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#102 Chutebox
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yeah man, it's so different and new

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#103 dah_master
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I would have to say Killzone 3...

The flashy screen thing in Crysis 2 was annoying...very annoying...

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#104 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Why is Killzone 3 in the competition?

More like Rage vs Crysis 2

treedoor

Because so far Killzone 3 looks more impressive than both.

Corridor shooter? I don't think so.

Much more impressed so far with the environments in Rage and Crysis, and the character models for Rage are incredible. Oh, and Rage runs at 60fps :D

Corrider shooter? YOu haven't been watching the new gameplay videos have you?
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#106 Ultra_Combo
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I know cows are having a hard time letting it go but this should really be between Rage and Crysis 2. Don't worry Cows you guys can play them also :D

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#107 Chutebox
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I know cows are having a hard time letting it go but this should really be between Rage and Crysis 2. Don't worry Cows you guys can play them also :D

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I know, you could tell by the poll KZ3 shouldn't even be in the discussion!!!
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#108 cyborg100000
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The whole atmosphere on both the games is so ridiculously over done. Killzone looks like someone turned up the contrast to max and Crysis 2 has more smoke than a house on fire. Damn I rant about the most stupid things:roll:

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#109 Mestitia
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I know cows are having a hard time letting it go but this should really be between Rage and Crysis 2. Don't worry Cows you guys can play them also :D

Ultra_Combo

I gotta admit, lems are really able to keep hope alive even after its being shot down so many times :D

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#110 88mphSlayer
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trailer vs. trailer

i thought the Killzone 3 trailer was better

tho i found the Crysis 2 trailer more annoying so that knocked it down

that said i'm more excited to play Crysis 2 than Killzone 3

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#111 heretrix
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Jeez. How is this even a legitimate question?

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#112 RadecSupreme
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I will probably buy both but if this video shows Killzone 3 in alpha stage, then I cannot imagine how good it will be when it releases.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

Killzone 3 gets my vote after watching this non-3D video.

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#113 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

I know cows are having a hard time letting it go but this should really be between Rage and Crysis 2. Don't worry Cows you guys can play them also :D

Chutebox

I know, you could tell by the poll KZ3 shouldn't even be in the discussion!!!

I know poll mean so much in SW yes? Sure I guess Kz3 could be in the argument the point stands that 2 multiplats look as good as ANYTHING on PS3 :)

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#114 Ultra_Combo
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I will probably but if this video shows Killzone 3 in alpha stage, then I cannot imagine how good it will be when it releases.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

RadecSupreme

I guess since Rage comes out after KZ3 I guess it's in pre pre Alpha, wow imagine how much better it will look when it comes out.

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#115 FIipMode
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I liked the Killzone 3 trailer better, the cutting in and out of the Crysis 2 trailer annoyed me.

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#116 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

I will probably but if this video shows Killzone 3 in alpha stage, then I cannot imagine how good it will be when it releases.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

Ultra_Combo

I guess since Rage comes out after KZ3 I guess it's in pre pre Alpha, wow imagine how much better it will look when it comes out.

Rage is multiplat so they have to work on 3 platforms, and isn't it their first attempt at console deving this gen? KZ3 already has a Godly engine in place and all efforts are focused on the PS3, KZ3 will win easily.
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#117 Esnedon
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I will probably but if this video shows Killzone 3 in alpha stage, then I cannot imagine how good it will be when it releases.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

Killzone 3 gets my vote after watching this non-3D video.

RadecSupreme

Technically, the graphics engine isn't actually pre-alpha. It's still the same one from Killzone 2, but they've improved it a bit.

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#118 Ultra_Combo
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[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

I will probably but if this video shows Killzone 3 in alpha stage, then I cannot imagine how good it will be when it releases.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

Mestitia

I guess since Rage comes out after KZ3 I guess it's in pre pre Alpha, wow imagine how much better it will look when it comes out.

Rage is multiplat so they have to work on 3 platforms, and isn't it their first attempt at console deving this gen? KZ3 already has a Godly engine in place and all efforts are focused on the PS3, KZ3 will win easily.

Uh Yah I think ID pedigree is a little better then GG and by a little I mean a huge margin. Multiplat has nothing to do with it, I know it's hard to accept.

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#119 RadecSupreme
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

I will probably but if this video shows Killzone 3 in alpha stage, then I cannot imagine how good it will be when it releases.

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_3_e3_hq_gameplay_1-16070_en.html

Ultra_Combo

I guess since Rage comes out after KZ3 I guess it's in pre pre Alpha, wow imagine how much better it will look when it comes out.

Hm, I doubt it, Rage is not using 3D, nor does it have half as many particle effects and destruction as in Killzone 3. It focuses only on texture. It wont impress like Killzone 3 does with all its incredible effects and detail on armor and every character.

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#120 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"][QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]

I guess since Rage comes out after KZ3 I guess it's in pre pre Alpha, wow imagine how much better it will look when it comes out.

Ultra_Combo

Rage is multiplat so they have to work on 3 platforms, and isn't it their first attempt at console deving this gen? KZ3 already has a Godly engine in place and all efforts are focused on the PS3, KZ3 will win easily.

Uh Yah I think ID pedigree is a little better then GG and by a little I mean a huge margin. Multiplat has nothing to do with it, I know it's hard to accept.

On PC... On consoles for the moment it's non existant. As they have yet to release a console game this gen at least.
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#121 Vaasman
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Reading through the responses in this thread made me die a little inside.

Is this really what I have to associate myself with when I say I'm a gamer?

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#122 Kingpin0114
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Rage looks better then both.

Rage>Crysis 2>Killzone3

I think Killzone 3 vs Gears 3 is a better showdown.

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#123 Mestitia
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Rage looks better then both.

Rage>Crysis 2>Killzone3

I think Killzone 3 vs Gears 3 is a better showdown.

Kingpin0114

But KZ3 looks better then Rage so you've just admited KZ3 looks best lol.

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#124 KingsMessenger
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Rage looks better then both.

Rage>Crysis 2>Killzone3

I think Killzone 3 vs Gears 3 is a better showdown.

Mestitia

But KZ3 looks better then Rage so you've just admited KZ3 looks best lol.

Please just stop posting that. It is embarassing for you.

I could tear apart that entire article. KZ3 is certainly doing some things better, but MegaTextures are EXTREMELY impressive tech and make a huge difference. The visuals in RAGE are easily on the same level.

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#125 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Rage looks better then both.

Rage>Crysis 2>Killzone3

I think Killzone 3 vs Gears 3 is a better showdown.

Mestitia

But KZ3 looks better then Rage so you've just admited KZ3 looks best lol.

Your link is from a playstation fanboys website = no credibility and their opinion means nothing.
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#126 Esnedon
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Crysis 2 = Killzone 3 > Rage

...

Back on topic: I actually preferred Crysis 2's trailer - it felt mysterious and somehow sinister, which is something I really like. Completely subjective, of course, though Killzone 3's trailer showed off the game really well.

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#127 Mestitia
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Rage looks better then both.

Rage>Crysis 2>Killzone3

I think Killzone 3 vs Gears 3 is a better showdown.

KingsMessenger

But KZ3 looks better then Rage so you've just admited KZ3 looks best lol.

Please just stop posting that. It is embarassing for you.

I could tear apart that entire article. KZ3 is certainly doing some things better, but MegaTextures are EXTREMELY impressive tech and make a huge difference. The visuals in RAGE are easily on the same level.

Hey at least we know the PC version will look tons better then any console game. So what if it gets raped on consoles.
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#128 JetB1ackNewYear
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Crysis 2 for the win HECK even crysis 1 looks better then kz3 and its from 2007 -__-
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#129 Bus-A-Bus
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This one...by little...

This is KZ2 with that good ass lighting,better textures and bigger scale.KZ3 is KZ2 in daytime,with better AA and textures and no HDR.

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#130 StealthMonkey4
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Got to say KZ3 from what I've seen though I am looking forward to Crysis 2 as well.

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#131 Nonstop-Madness
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RAGE > KZ3 > CRYSIS 2 ... RAGE is insane.
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#132 tagyhag
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Have to say Crysis 2 considering the non-linearity of it.
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#133 T-razor1
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Crysis 2

In all honesty this is how I see it...

Crysis 2= Rage > Gears 3 > Killzone 3 although I will admit that I flip flop back in forth between Rage and Crysis 2 because the thought of Rage at 60fps is too tasty!

Mind you all of these titles look great but if you look at Crysis 2, Rage and Gears 3 they all are sporting a cleaner look than Killzone 3. I don't know what it is but as good as KZ3 looks there is something off with it at least when it stands next to the other three titles. As I've said many times before....

Killzone 3 has great gun models and some decent lighting in some spots. But where things start to go down hill (at least compared to the other 3 titles) is when you look past the gun models into the environment. KZ3 has this blurry smudgy look to it and although none of the textures in all 4 of these games are perfect I feel that KZ3 has the worst. Also KZ3 is sporting some low poly "lego-like" structures/buildings. It looks weird. Just compare the structures/buildings in KZ3 and the other games. It is very hard to notice but the difference is there. It's as if someone said hey take this lego block and use it to finish off this building structure:lol:I wonder if this has to do with the quirky GPU and memory of the PS3? It's easy to overlook the shortcomings of KZ3 because of the nice looking gun models and also when the action gets frenetic.

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#134 gamecubepad
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I still have a hard time believing that the Crysis 2 footage is representative of the console builds. Just looks too freaking amazing. It's largely the same footage as what was shown at E3 and said to be the 360 build by a Crytek dev. I don't know what to say.

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#135 i_am_interested
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Crysis 2

In all honesty this is how I see it...

Crysis 2= Rage > Gears 3 > Killzone 3 although I will admit that I flip flop back in forth between Rage and Crysis 2 because the thought of Rage at 60fps is too tasty!

Mind you all of these titles look great but if you look at Crysis 2, Rage and Gears 3 they all are sporting a cleaner look than Killzone 3. I don't know what it is but as good as KZ3 looks there is something off with it at least when it stands next to the other three titles. As I've said many times before....

Killzone 3 has great gun models and some decent lighting in some spots. But where things start to go down hill (at least compared to the other 3 titles) is when you look past the gun models into the environment. KZ3 has this blurry smudgy look to it and although none of the textures in all 4 of these games are perfect I feel that KZ3 has the worst. Also KZ3 is sporting some low poly "lego-like" structures/buildings. It looks weird. Just compare the structures/buildings in KZ3 and the other games. It is very hard to notice but the difference is there. It's as if someone said hey take this lego block and use it to finish off this building structure:lol:I wonder if this has to do with the quirky GPU and memory of the PS3? It's easy to overlook the shortcomings of KZ3 because of the nice looking gun models and also when the action gets frenetic.

T-razor1
the buildings? what buildings are you talking about, theres only main building and its not even a building, its a mining station in the artic for mining ore and why are you even mentioning the ps3 gpu when crysis 2 is going to have all the visuals of its 360 counterpart
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#136 PAL360
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KZ3 has better character animations, just like Rage but Crysis2 has better everything else. The Crysis2 vid on this thread is insane!!!

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#137 DraugenCP
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="Afrojitsu"]

Another post-apocalyptic, Fallout 3/Borderlands/Shadow of Chernobyl clone? I don't think so ;)

DarkLink77

Because the theme of the game has everything to do with graphics amirite? :roll:

Not to mention that RAGE has been in development for about as long as those other three COMBINED, and was announced before at least 2 of them.

Shadow of Chernobyl had been in development since 2001...

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#138 mitu123
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They seem to do things better than another to say which is better overall.

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#139 T-razor1
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[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

Crysis 2

In all honesty this is how I see it...

Crysis 2= Rage > Gears 3 > Killzone 3 although I will admit that I flip flop back in forth between Rage and Crysis 2 because the thought of Rage at 60fps is too tasty!

Mind you all of these titles look great but if you look at Crysis 2, Rage and Gears 3 they all are sporting a cleaner look than Killzone 3. I don't know what it is but as good as KZ3 looks there is something off with it at least when it stands next to the other three titles. As I've said many times before....

Killzone 3 has great gun models and some decent lighting in some spots. But where things start to go down hill (at least compared to the other 3 titles) is when you look past the gun models into the environment. KZ3 has this blurry smudgy look to it and although none of the textures in all 4 of these games are perfect I feel that KZ3 has the worst. Also KZ3 is sporting some low poly "lego-like" structures/buildings. It looks weird. Just compare the structures/buildings in KZ3 and the other games. It is very hard to notice but the difference is there. It's as if someone said hey take this lego block and use it to finish off this building structure:lol:I wonder if this has to do with the quirky GPU and memory of the PS3? It's easy to overlook the shortcomings of KZ3 because of the nice looking gun models and also when the action gets frenetic.

i_am_interested

the buildings? what buildings are you talking about, theres only main building and its not even a building, its a mining station in the artic for mining ore and why are you even mentioning the ps3 gpu when crysis 2 is going to have all the visuals of its 360 counterpart

I'm talking about buildings, structures, platforms, whatever....any type of structure, etc..Whether it be a mining station, building or individual platform,an individual piece of steel plate, whatever it is..... it just looks less defined, small and as if it uses a low poly count. Also just because Crysis 2 will look more or less similar to the 360 does not mean that Guerilla could've struggled with the pS3 hardware moreso than Crytek. As I said before what i'm talking about is very hard to notice but for some reason is very noticeable to me.

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#140 muzik_mafia
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yeah man, it's so different and new

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#141 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

Crysis 2

In all honesty this is how I see it...

Crysis 2= Rage > Gears 3 > Killzone 3 although I will admit that I flip flop back in forth between Rage and Crysis 2 because the thought of Rage at 60fps is too tasty!

Mind you all of these titles look great but if you look at Crysis 2, Rage and Gears 3 they all are sporting a cleaner look than Killzone 3. I don't know what it is but as good as KZ3 looks there is something off with it at least when it stands next to the other three titles. As I've said many times before....

Killzone 3 has great gun models and some decent lighting in some spots. But where things start to go down hill (at least compared to the other 3 titles) is when you look past the gun models into the environment. KZ3 has this blurry smudgy look to it and although none of the textures in all 4 of these games are perfect I feel that KZ3 has the worst. Also KZ3 is sporting some low poly "lego-like" structures/buildings. It looks weird. Just compare the structures/buildings in KZ3 and the other games. It is very hard to notice but the difference is there. It's as if someone said hey take this lego block and use it to finish off this building structure:lol:I wonder if this has to do with the quirky GPU and memory of the PS3? It's easy to overlook the shortcomings of KZ3 because of the nice looking gun models and also when the action gets frenetic.

T-razor1

the buildings? what buildings are you talking about, theres only main building and its not even a building, its a mining station in the artic for mining ore and why are you even mentioning the ps3 gpu when crysis 2 is going to have all the visuals of its 360 counterpart

I'm talking about buildings, structures, platforms, whatever....any type of structure, etc..Whether it be a mining station, building or individual platform,an individual piece of steel plate, whatever it is..... it just looks less defined, small and as if it uses a low poly count. Also just because Crysis 2 will look more or less similar to the 360 does not mean that Guerilla could've struggled with the pS3 hardware moreso than Crytek. As I said before what i'm talking about is very hard to notice but for some reason is very noticeable to me.

no, i get what youre talking about, but thats the look of the planet and the art of the game basically this economically poor industrial wasteland of a planet that has the look of a metallic shantytown
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#142 bramabull80
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[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Rage looks better then both.

Rage>Crysis 2>Killzone3

I think Killzone 3 vs Gears 3 is a better showdown.

Tessellation

But KZ3 looks better then Rage so you've just admited KZ3 looks best lol.

Your link is from a playstation fanboys website = no credibility and their opinion means nothing.

actually, its not if you check out the link they have xboxunlimited, and nintendo unlimited coming out soon, PLUS they said RAGE looks better, but Killzone has a lot more going on. Read before assuming
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#143 T-razor1
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] the buildings? what buildings are you talking about, theres only main building and its not even a building, its a mining station in the artic for mining ore and why are you even mentioning the ps3 gpu when crysis 2 is going to have all the visuals of its 360 counterparti_am_interested

I'm talking about buildings, structures, platforms, whatever....any type of structure, etc..Whether it be a mining station, building or individual platform,an individual piece of steel plate, whatever it is..... it just looks less defined, small and as if it uses a low poly count. Also just because Crysis 2 will look more or less similar to the 360 does not mean that Guerilla could've struggled with the pS3 hardware moreso than Crytek. As I said before what i'm talking about is very hard to notice but for some reason is very noticeable to me.

no, i get what youre talking about, but thats the look of the planet and the art of the game basically this economically poor industrial wasteland of a planet that has the look of a metallic shantytown

But what I'm talking about has nothing to do with artistic style.I know perfectly well the kind of look and artistic style that Guerilla was aiming for and for the most part they did a decent job of that. But what I'm saying is that the structures, buildings platforms, etc... in this industrial wasteland are not very well defined (low poly count) and almost give the individual structures, beams, platforms etc.. an amateur look....hence why I used the term lego blocks.

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#144 kozzy1234
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Crysis >>>>
Crysis2 >>>>

Best gameplay and controls maybe ever for a FPS

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#145 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]

I'm talking about buildings, structures, platforms, whatever....any type of structure, etc..Whether it be a mining station, building or individual platform,an individual piece of steel plate, whatever it is..... it just looks less defined, small and as if it uses a low poly count. Also just because Crysis 2 will look more or less similar to the 360 does not mean that Guerilla could've struggled with the pS3 hardware moreso than Crytek. As I said before what i'm talking about is very hard to notice but for some reason is very noticeable to me.

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no, i get what youre talking about, but thats the look of the planet and the art of the game basically this economically poor industrial wasteland of a planet that has the look of a metallic shantytown

But what I'm talking about has nothing to do with artistic style.I know perfectly well the kind of look and artistic style that Guerilla was aiming for and for the most part they did a decent job of that. But what I'm saying is that the structures, buildings platforms, etc... in this industrial wasteland are not very well defined (low poly count) and almost give the individual structures, beams, platforms etc.. an amateur look....hence why I used the term lego blocks.

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not sure if i follow you, feel free to point out the low poly structures youre talking about

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[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] no, i get what youre talking about, but thats the look of the planet and the art of the game basically this economically poor industrial wasteland of a planet that has the look of a metallic shantytowni_am_interested

But what I'm talking about has nothing to do with artistic style.I know perfectly well the kind of look and artistic style that Guerilla was aiming for and for the most part they did a decent job of that. But what I'm saying is that the structures, buildings platforms, etc... in this industrial wasteland are not very well defined (low poly count) and almost give the individual structures, beams, platforms etc.. an amateur look....hence why I used the term lego blocks.

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not sure if i follow you, feel free to point out the low poly structures youre talking about

No offense but is this pic supposed to look good? I see No detail in this pic, no textures, looks really horrible. :?

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#147 i_am_interested
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

But what I'm talking about has nothing to do with artistic style.I know perfectly well the kind of look and artistic style that Guerilla was aiming for and for the most part they did a decent job of that. But what I'm saying is that the structures, buildings platforms, etc... in this industrial wasteland are not very well defined (low poly count) and almost give the individual structures, beams, platforms etc.. an amateur look....hence why I used the term lego blocks.

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not sure if i follow you, feel free to point out the low poly structures youre talking about

No offense but is this pic supposed to look good? I see No detail in this pic, no textures, looks really horrible. :?

im not posting the pic for texture purposes,

he specifically keeps mentioning low poly structures so im interested in seeing the low poly areas he keeps mentioning

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#150 T-razor1
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@ interested...

I'm just going to leave it alone. As I said it's something really hard to explain or notice at all but it's something I personally see. But it's all good because as I said all four of these games look great. I just personally feel that KZ3 is bringing up the rear in comparison albeit not by much.