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#51 fatzombiepigeon
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I'm sorry, but I'm calling "wtf" on Adobe, Fatz, and sonic. I have never seen you guys admit to a good game on the PS3. lol, I'm not saying you haven't or anything. Just finding it a little funny that now when I call out the double standard, you guys quickly saying PS3 does have good games... It's the first I ever seen you guys say this.shungokustasu

If it didn't have good games I wouldn't want one.

I want one.

I've always thought Resistance looked sweet. Just because I didn't come out and lavish the game in praise doesn't mean I didn't think it was cool. I've seen the reviews and think it looks freakin' sweet.

How often do you praise AA/AAA 360 games without doing some backlash?

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#52 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]I'm sorry, but I'm calling "wtf" on Adobe, Fatz, and sonic. I have never seen you guys admit to a good game on the PS3. lol, I'm not saying you haven't or anything. Just finding it a little funny that now when I call out the double standard, you guys quickly saying PS3 does have good games... It's the first I ever seen you guys say this.fatzombiepigeon

If it didn't have good games I wouldn't want one.

I want one.

I've always thought Resistance looked sweet. Just because I didn't come out and lavish the game in praise doesn't mean I didn't think it was cool. I've seen the reviews and think it looks freakin' sweet.

How often do you praise AA/AAA 360 games without doing some backlash?

Just Dead Rising. It's the only game I like on the Xbox360. 

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#53 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]I'm sorry, but I'm calling "wtf" on Adobe, Fatz, and sonic. I have never seen you guys admit to a good game on the PS3. lol, I'm not saying you haven't or anything. Just finding it a little funny that now when I call out the double standard, you guys quickly saying PS3 does have good games... It's the first I ever seen you guys say this.shungokustasu

If it didn't have good games I wouldn't want one.

I want one.

I've always thought Resistance looked sweet. Just because I didn't come out and lavish the game in praise doesn't mean I didn't think it was cool. I've seen the reviews and think it looks freakin' sweet.

How often do you praise AA/AAA 360 games without doing some backlash?

Just Dead Rising. It's the only game I like on the Xbox360. 

Ok then. We're on the same page.

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I'm sorry, but I'm calling "wtf" on Adobe, Fatz, and sonic. I have never seen you guys admit to a good game on the PS3. lol, I'm not saying you haven't or anything. Just finding it a little funny that now when I call out the double standard, you guys quickly saying PS3 does have good games... It's the first I ever seen you guys say this.shungokustasu

I'm not going to browse through my entire posting history to prove you wrong, because it isn't worth it, but I'd hope that I never said that the PS3 has no good games. I've probably said that the PS3 doesn't have any exclusives that interest me at this time, which is pretty much true. I'll re-evaluate my personal position on the PS3 once Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, and Metal Gear Solid 4 come out, but right now, Resistance and Motorstorm aren't going to get me to spend $600. 

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#55 MCGSMB
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]I'm sorry, but I'm calling "wtf" on Adobe, Fatz, and sonic. I have never seen you guys admit to a good game on the PS3. lol, I'm not saying you haven't or anything. Just finding it a little funny that now when I call out the double standard, you guys quickly saying PS3 does have good games... It's the first I ever seen you guys say this.shungokustasu

 

If it didn't have good games I wouldn't want one.

I want one.

I've always thought Resistance looked sweet. Just because I didn't come out and lavish the game in praise doesn't mean I didn't think it was cool. I've seen the reviews and think it looks freakin' sweet.

How often do you praise AA/AAA 360 games without doing some backlash?

Just Dead Rising. It's the only game I like on the Xbox360. 

Oh, so you've played all the 360 games?

Get real. 

You're saying everyone hates the PS3 games and I've never seen you say anything good about a single 360 game. 

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#56 Roy_Drage
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A lot saying a little -- a perfect rant.

Strictly regarding the 'Waitbox 360' comment, I fully disagree.

Launch - A bunch of AA-AAA titles (some exclusive). Better then its competition's efforts.**
Spring (from Launch) - An additional exclusive AA with 2 AAA multi-plats. Superior.**
Summer (from Spring) - Again, more solid AA exclusive titles. Not comparable.
Fall (from Summer) - More AA, AAA titles, and a system seller-AAA exclusive. Not comparable.
Winter (from Fall) - A bit of a drought, solid releases which outnumber the competition.
Spring (from Winter) - A continuation of solid titles, outnumbering the competition.

** = Comparing their respective times (example: Wii's 07 Spring to 360's 06 Spring).

project343

 

Yep, PDZ scoring 9, & outscoring the only decent 360 launch game (COD2).....that shows how much I we use GS's scores to claim ownage onone another.     

Now lets start on how many triple a games PS2 has over both MS consoles & how on IGN that GeOW was outscored by the much better last gen games on PS2 like GOW2 (9.7) & Okami.     

Why pay all that money for a 360 or a PS3, when PS2 games are pulling down their trousers & crapping all over all three next gen consoles in regards to quality games.        I say this because lemmings frequently ask the question why people owld bother upgrading to PS3 when it has "NO" good games.     Same can be said for the 360 & Wii, why spend the money on any next gen console, when the PS2's past , present & future games are still owning 99% of all next gen games according to some gaming sites.     

I'm happy with my PS3 & 4 games, they are all top quality titles FNR3, Resistance, NBA Street, Motorstorm.    I'm sure a lot of 360's owners are content with their machine & some quality games.    It just seems the lemmings who frequent this site & constantly bash the PS3 with no kind of sense, are really not happy with their system & harbour some resentment towards the cows & their console of choice.   

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[QUOTE="project343"]A lot saying a little -- a perfect rant.

Strictly regarding the 'Waitbox 360' comment, I fully disagree.

Launch - A bunch of AA-AAA titles (some exclusive). Better then its competition's efforts.**
Spring (from Launch) - An additional exclusive AA with 2 AAA multi-plats. Superior.**
Summer (from Spring) - Again, more solid AA exclusive titles. Not comparable.
Fall (from Summer) - More AA, AAA titles, and a system seller-AAA exclusive. Not comparable.
Winter (from Fall) - A bit of a drought, solid releases which outnumber the competition.
Spring (from Winter) - A continuation of solid titles, outnumbering the competition.

** = Comparing their respective times (example: Wii's 07 Spring to 360's 06 Spring).

Roy_Drage

 

Yep, PDZ scoring 9, & outscoring the only decent 360 launch game (COD2).....that shows how much I we use GS's scores to claim ownage onone another.

Now lets start on how many triple a games PS2 has over both MS consoles & how on IGN that GeOW was outscored by the much better last gen games on PS2 like GOW2 (9.7) & Okami.

Why pay all that money for a 360 or a PS3, when PS2 games are pulling down their trousers & crapping all over all three next gen consoles in regards to quality games. I say this because lemmings frequently ask the question why people owld bother upgrading to PS3 when it has "NO" good games. Same can be said for the 360 & Wii, why spend the money on any next gen console, when the PS2's past , present & future games are still owning 99% of all next gen games according to some gaming sites.

I'm happy with my PS3 & 4 games, they are all top quality titles FNR3, Resistance, NBA Street, Motorstorm. I'm sure a lot of 360's owners are content with their machine & some quality games. It just seems the lemmings who frequent this site & constantly bash the PS3 with no kind of sense, are really not happy with their system & harbour some resentment towards the cows & their console of choice.

Why, oh why  are you falling back on PS2 all of a sudden?

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#59 heretrix
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Now lets start on how many triple a games PS2 has over both MS consoles & how on IGN that GeOW was outscored by the much better last gen games on PS2 like GOW2 (9.7) & Okami.     

Roy_Drage

Lets not. Nobody cares about IGN scores. Post at IGN they have plenty of Xbox fanboys for you to bait.

I don't understand how people come here and say that another site is better, yet they aren't posting on the other site.

That's like me going to Gamepro's (shudder) forum and telling the fanboys there that Gamepro stinks (it does) and nothing they say carries weight IN THEIR OWN FORUMS.

WTF?

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#60 waynehead895
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Another Reason why it's called the waitsation 3 is because cows keep saying "Wait til X event/X game comes out"
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#61 NAPK1NS
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I didn't even bother reading...too dumb.
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I'm sorry, but I'm calling "wtf" on Adobe, Fatz, and sonic. I have never seen you guys admit to a good game on the PS3. lol, I'm not saying you haven't or anything. Just finding it a little funny that now when I call out the double standard, you guys quickly saying PS3 does have good games... It's the first I ever seen you guys say this.shungokustasu

Just check my post history. I have many many many times given props to games such as Lair (the one that most appeals to me), Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Eight Days, FF13, and also DMC4 and VF5 before they were reported comig to X360.

Yeah, I comment on the PS3's price point and how I feel that will affect it's market share, but I have never ONCE called PS3 a crappy console or bashed its games. Not even Resistance which I expected to do better.

Don't you recall a similar post which compelled you to hug me? :)

Again. Check. My. Post history. 

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Yep, PDZ scoring 9, & outscoring the only decent 360 launch game (COD2).....that shows how much I we use GS's scores to claim ownage onone another.

Now lets start on how many triple a games PS2 has over both MS consoles & how on IGN that GeOW was outscored by the much better last gen games on PS2 like GOW2 (9.7) & Okami.

Why pay all that money for a 360 or a PS3, when PS2 games are pulling down their trousers & crapping all over all three next gen consoles in regards to quality games. I say this because lemmings frequently ask the question why people owld bother upgrading to PS3 when it has "NO" good games. Same can be said for the 360 & Wii, why spend the money on any next gen console, when the PS2's past , present & future games are still owning 99% of all next gen games according to some gaming sites.

I'm happy with my PS3 & 4 games, they are all top quality titles FNR3, Resistance, NBA Street, Motorstorm. I'm sure a lot of 360's owners are content with their machine & some quality games. It just seems the lemmings who frequent this site & constantly bash the PS3 with no kind of sense, are really not happy with their system & harbour some resentment towards the cows & their console of choice.

Roy_Drage

 

1. Why is the PS2 part of the argument again? It's in a completely different generation. Well why buy a PS2 when you can buy a SNES?

2. We're on Gamespot. Gamespot's reviews are the only reviews we use - Gamespot is law. I don't like the rule, but it's the way we work here in System Wars.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Whatever, It's not just the "blind" fanboys saying it. Some well respected 360 fans says the same thing. shungokustasu



They actually say the games are "bad." Or do they say they do not enjoy them?

Com'on it the popular thing to say on SW. PS3 has no good games and it's expensive. 360 fans easliy rant about Dead Rising, Kameo, and COD2 as great ames, but quickly say PS3 has no good games? Double standard...

You've read system wars enough to know that this type of thing is rampant here.  MS fanboys don't hold the monopoly on double standards.  There's plenty of blame to go around for all fanboys. 

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#65 mestizoman
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"with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo"

Stopped reading right there. Those games are quality titles...foxhound_fox
dont be blind

those games were terrible, gameplay wise

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#66 Gen007
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dosent matter who wins this gen 360 could be dead last and it would still have tons of great games
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#67 Codename33
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Hardcore lemmings told us how great the mediocre filled 360 lineup was with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo, when they were really waiting over a year for GeOW.    Now that game has gone & passed, they are patiently waiting again for their only other decent game they'll get this gen in Halo 3: Downgrade.      

Now from my short experience on SW's, I have seen lemmings acting worse than cows, by condemning their actions, whislt in the same breath, doing exactly what they vilified the cows for doing.   Then they hit the all time low, by proclaiming that they are doing it as a revenge act.....instead of just admitting freely that they are just the same rabid fanboy as these cows, the only difference being the brand name they wear on their heart sleave.

If you lemmings wish to claim ownage with things like xbl being the better selling point for 360...I think you need to research the facts better.   You say casuals won't pay $499 or $599 for a PS3, but then seem to think that casuals will pay $399 for a system & also pay a yearly $50 subscription for an online service they really are oblivious to for anything but gaming.  So in the real world sense, wouldn't casuals be more sold on a system that is a one time, one off payment, that is straightforward to use for what consoles were meant for....gaming.       Casuals really don't care for all that friends crap, chat, & all the other non gameplay enhancing features....I myself, as a hardcore console gamer, really don't care about the bells & whistles either....It's nice for a "gloating" standpoint, but in nearly all cases I, & the majority, never use it.     Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me, along with alot of the other features that some people hold in such high esteem.   

and don't even get me started on achievement points & how toss that joke is.   If games aren't fun enough to play extensively online or off, then they are not worth my money.        You waitboxers have been playing half baked games for too long for achievement points.....That is sad & shows that MS has dangled a rotten carrot in your faces, to keep you appeased until one other worthwhile game arrives on your console of choice.      It saddens me that Sony are implementing this trophy crap, to allow the same kind of new age gamer mentality, to get in the way of actually being able to play truly great games, simply because they are fun.   

End of rant....Close massive wall of text.

Roy_Drage

1. Someone didn't realize how many good games the 360 actually got at launch. It got a great amount of high AA games, including Kameo (you call it half-assed, but it outscored every ps3 launch game), PGR3, call of duty 2, and PD0 (we know it deserved AA instead of AAA).

2. don't call Halo 3 a downgrade when they haven't even finalized the graphics. Would you rather get a beta with subpar graphics so that people can help test the game and voice their opinion about it, or would you just want a game to not have a beta and have terrible online gameplay?

3. We just have to accept that there are annoying fanboys for all systems. There isn't a certain group who's the "worst."

4. Considering oneself a "hardcore gamer" sort of kills the rant.

5. You don't like to play online with friends? I thought the whole point of playing online was making new friends and playing with friends without them having to go to your house.

6. You probably don't own a 360, so you don't know just how addicting achievement points are. Lemme give you a hint, they're so addicting that sony wanted to rip them off and use them. Also, the points give new meaning to play some games that I wouldn't find myself playing much. ...and if you don't like achievement points, you don't have to go "achievement farming" like some people do. They're completely optional, but I bet you can't get a game without wanting to unlock most of its achievements.

Yeah, my rant is also done.

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#68 aliasfreak
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The best post I ever read on SW. QFTMFT!shungokustasu

Stupidity loves company.

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#69 ziggy87
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how have you been on this site for 18 months and only have 30 posts
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#70 aliasfreak
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I didn't even bother reading...too dumb.NAPK1NS

You didn't miss much.  I stopped once he said that Gears and Halo 3 were the only good games for the console. 

Someone isn't being hugged enough by mommy.

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#71 aliasfreak
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]"with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo"

Stopped reading right there. Those games are quality titles...mestizoman

dont be blind

those games were terrible, gameplay wise

Don't be ignorant, specific opinions are not universally held.  I enjoyed PDZ. 

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#72 aliasfreak
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dosent matter who wins this gen 360 could be dead last and it would still have tons of great gamesGen007

I like how you think.  Sales or others' opinions don't really matter as long as you enjoy your console. 

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#73 Educated_Gamer
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The only reason you could call it the waitbox 360 is because you had to wait till the summer to be able to find one, thats very unlike the ps3.

I got oblivion.- its a never ending game basically

Shortly after Dead Rising.  - replay value is amazing, its actually in my xbox

then Madden 07- my friends like to come over and play this/ plaay it online.

Gears- well, its awesome.

Viva Pinata- very fun game- very deep to be honest 

Guitar Hero- just beat freebird on hard 

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#74 Roy_Drage
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[QUOTE="Roy_Drage"]

[QUOTE="project343"]A lot saying a little -- a perfect rant.

Strictly regarding the 'Waitbox 360' comment, I fully disagree.

Launch - A bunch of AA-AAA titles (some exclusive). Better then its competition's efforts.**
Spring (from Launch) - An additional exclusive AA with 2 AAA multi-plats. Superior.**
Summer (from Spring) - Again, more solid AA exclusive titles. Not comparable.
Fall (from Summer) - More AA, AAA titles, and a system seller-AAA exclusive. Not comparable.
Winter (from Fall) - A bit of a drought, solid releases which outnumber the competition.
Spring (from Winter) - A continuation of solid titles, outnumbering the competition.

** = Comparing their respective times (example: Wii's 07 Spring to 360's 06 Spring).

ToScA-

 

Yep, PDZ scoring 9, & outscoring the only decent 360 launch game (COD2).....that shows how much I we use GS's scores to claim ownage onone another.

Now lets start on how many triple a games PS2 has over both MS consoles & how on IGN that GeOW was outscored by the much better last gen games on PS2 like GOW2 (9.7) & Okami.

Why pay all that money for a 360 or a PS3, when PS2 games are pulling down their trousers & crapping all over all three next gen consoles in regards to quality games. I say this because lemmings frequently ask the question why people owld bother upgrading to PS3 when it has "NO" good games. Same can be said for the 360 & Wii, why spend the money on any next gen console, when the PS2's past , present & future games are still owning 99% of all next gen games according to some gaming sites.

I'm happy with my PS3 & 4 games, they are all top quality titles FNR3, Resistance, NBA Street, Motorstorm. I'm sure a lot of 360's owners are content with their machine & some quality games. It just seems the lemmings who frequent this site & constantly bash the PS3 with no kind of sense, are really not happy with their system & harbour some resentment towards the cows & their console of choice.

Why, oh why  are you falling back on PS2 all of a sudden?

It's a counter arguement to lemmings claiming PS3 is not worth owning yet as it has no good games.  Simple enough that the counter arguement stands for 360, it only has one truly next gen innovative (worth owning) game, if we use lemmings logic.        So  don't throw stones in glass houses.   

If early adopters did not buy 36o's, Wii or PS3's on launch....These machines would die horrible early deaths.   So if 360 people are entitled to question the early purchase validity of the PS3, then PS3 owners have more rights to question the purchase of a machine that only has one (questionably) stellar game after over 18months in the market place.    

And for lemmings claiming ownage with 360's installed base...... I believe the Dreamcast had a similar lead for the same headstart it had.   

Be careful lemmings   

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Lets all hammer on the PS3 & cows for the waitstation,  When we all know perfectly well that the 360 was the original machine for the overly patient, excuse baring gamer.  

Hardcore lemmings told us how great the mediocre filled 360 lineup was with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo, when they were really waiting over a year for GeOW.    Now that game has gone & passed, they are patiently waiting again for their only other decent game they'll get this gen in Halo 3: Downgrade.  

You fellas should learn not to throw stones in glass houses, as you all know that by the end of this gen. you are all gonna look completely foolish & will come on here in rare events & complain about how cows are exacting their sw's revenge with multiple topic about how the ps3 pwnzers the 360, & how dvd 9's were abondoned by most good developers, in favour of the bigger, better storage medium.       

I am by no means a 360 hater, I like all consoles.  I just find it hilarious on here, that as long as I've been frequenting this site (about 18months), lemmings have been doing nothing but making non stop topics about PS3 bashing & gatecrashing any good news topics for PS3, with negativity.      Then when quizzed about why you feel it neccessary to bash any one system, I got the excuse that "cows used to do it", "cow are the worst fanboys on SW's".    

Now from my short experience on SW's, I have seen lemmings acting worse than cows, by condemning their actions, whislt in the same breath, doing exactly what they vilified the cows for doing.   Then they hit the all time low, by proclaiming that they are doing it as a revenge act.....instead of just admitting freely that they are just the same rabid fanboy as these cows, the only difference being the brand name they wear on their heart sleave.

If you lemmings wish to claim ownage with things like xbl being the better selling point for 360...I think you need to research the facts better.   You say casuals won't pay $499 or $599 for a PS3, but then seem to think that casuals will pay $399 for a system & also pay a yearly $50 subscription for an online service they really are oblivious to for anything but gaming.  So in the real world sense, wouldn't casuals be more sold on a system that is a one time, one off payment, that is straightforward to use for what consoles were meant for....gaming.       Casuals really don't care for all that friends crap, chat, & all the other non gameplay enhancing features....I myself, as a hardcore console gamer, really don't care about the bells & whistles either....It's nice for a "gloating" standpoint, but in nearly all cases I, & the majority, never use it.     Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me, along with alot of the other features that some people hold in such high esteem.   

and don't even get me started on achievement points & how toss that joke is.   If games aren't fun enough to play extensively online or off, then they are not worth my money.        You waitboxers have been playing half baked games for too long for achievement points.....That is sad & shows that MS has dangled a rotten carrot in your faces, to keep you appeased until one other worthwhile game arrives on your console of choice.      It saddens me that Sony are implementing this trophy crap, to allow the same kind of new age gamer mentality, to get in the way of actually being able to play truly great games, simply because they are fun.   

End of rant....Close massive wall of text.

Roy_Drage

thanks for the laugh, now I'm going to go back to waiting for my 360 to get some good games, oh what's that you say, it already has about 30 (counting a few aracade games), but don't worry, the PS3 will have 3 by the end of the year, I should sell my 360 to help pay for a PS3 right away!

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lol, Proof that things in SW can push you over the edge? Seriously, there ought to be a warning or something.
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#77 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]"with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo"

Stopped reading right there. Those games are quality titles...mestizoman

dont be blind

those games were terrible, gameplay wise

Dont be ridiculous, Kameo was a superb game, its only downside was its lenght, PDZ didnt really deserve the score it got, but it was still a fun game. 

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#78 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="Roy_Drage"]

[QUOTE="project343"]A lot saying a little -- a perfect rant.

Strictly regarding the 'Waitbox 360' comment, I fully disagree.

Launch - A bunch of AA-AAA titles (some exclusive). Better then its competition's efforts.**
Spring (from Launch) - An additional exclusive AA with 2 AAA multi-plats. Superior.**
Summer (from Spring) - Again, more solid AA exclusive titles. Not comparable.
Fall (from Summer) - More AA, AAA titles, and a system seller-AAA exclusive. Not comparable.
Winter (from Fall) - A bit of a drought, solid releases which outnumber the competition.
Spring (from Winter) - A continuation of solid titles, outnumbering the competition.

** = Comparing their respective times (example: Wii's 07 Spring to 360's 06 Spring).

Roy_Drage

 

Yep, PDZ scoring 9, & outscoring the only decent 360 launch game (COD2).....that shows how much I we use GS's scores to claim ownage onone another.

Now lets start on how many triple a games PS2 has over both MS consoles & how on IGN that GeOW was outscored by the much better last gen games on PS2 like GOW2 (9.7) & Okami.

Why pay all that money for a 360 or a PS3, when PS2 games are pulling down their trousers & crapping all over all three next gen consoles in regards to quality games. I say this because lemmings frequently ask the question why people owld bother upgrading to PS3 when it has "NO" good games. Same can be said for the 360 & Wii, why spend the money on any next gen console, when the PS2's past , present & future games are still owning 99% of all next gen games according to some gaming sites.

I'm happy with my PS3 & 4 games, they are all top quality titles FNR3, Resistance, NBA Street, Motorstorm. I'm sure a lot of 360's owners are content with their machine & some quality games. It just seems the lemmings who frequent this site & constantly bash the PS3 with no kind of sense, are really not happy with their system & harbour some resentment towards the cows & their console of choice.

Why, oh why are you falling back on PS2 all of a sudden?

It's a counter arguement to lemmings claiming PS3 is not worth owning yet as it has no good games. Simple enough that the counter arguement stands for 360, it only has one truly next gen innovative (worth owning) game, if we use lemmings logic. So don't throw stones in glass houses.

If early adopters did not buy 36o's, Wii or PS3's on launch....These machines would die horrible early deaths. So if 360 people are entitled to question the early purchase validity of the PS3, then PS3 owners have more rights to question the purchase of a machine that only has one (questionably) stellar game after over 18months in the market place.

And for lemmings claiming ownage with 360's installed base...... I believe the Dreamcast had a similar lead for the same headstart it had.

Be careful lemmings

It's all a matter of context.

When 360 launched, it wasa the only next gen system available.  Games like CoD2, FNR3 and other multiplatform games enjoyed success because the PS3 version was nowhere to be seen. Sorry to burst your bubble, there are plenty of games worthy of attention on the 360.  If you're only willing to acknowledge one game, then it's all on you.  People have have already pointed this out.

New purchasers are totally valid in questioning whether the PS3 is worth it or not.  Why PS3 when the 360 is available with more games and multiplatform games that are either better or very close?

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#79 cdecrosta03
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360 fans are right current gen there system is pretty good next gen not so much. The ps3 is good for current and nex gen. I mean everyone can agree that 360 brakes a lot more the ps3 (3 rings of death ring a bell).  360  fans complain blu ray not  neccesary and there right dvds are nto either. why don'y we go back to carterages and for movies vhs that makes a lot of sense. It nice to see that when u buy 360 u get 1 system and when u buy ps3 u get 2 ( because they are stil making good ps2 games and have quit on the xbox). It is just so obvious  that 360 is built for now and that about it while as ps3 is built for now and the future. 360 fans are right your system is good and is built perfect to be awsome for at least another year or 2.
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#80 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="mestizoman"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]"with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo"

Stopped reading right there. Those games are quality titles...Snugenz

dont be blind

those games were terrible, gameplay wise

Dont be ridiculous, Kameo was a superb game, its only downside was its lenght, PDZ didnt really deserve the score it got, but it was still a fun game.

PDZ single player was mediocre, but its mulitplayer was surprisingly varied and deep. 

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#81 ArisShadows
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C&C3?
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#82 REVENGEotSITH
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"Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me..."

Huh?  So, you'd rather play a game against a bunch of random people than play a game along side your buds, who you've played hundreds of matches spread over dozens of different games?  You must not get out much.

Making a statement like that basically tells me that you have a beef against the 360 and its fans and you are just grabbing at straws to come up with some solid argument against it.

To call the 360 lineup weak, let alone its launch lineup, is just being blind.  Games like Condemned, COD2, Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, GRAW2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Splinter Cell DA, Prey, NFS:MW, Chromehounds, F.E.A.R., and of course Gears of War are all amazing games.  You say the PS3 has great games.  OK, what, like 3 great games?  To bash on the 360s lineup and call praise to the meager 3 good games you have is just being ridiculous.

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#83 tree-branch
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i dont have to wait that long

forza in 2 weeks :)

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#84 Eddie-Vedder
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He has a point, rather lems want to admit it or not he does have a point.
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#85 VoodooHak
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He has a point, rather lems want to admit it or not he does have a point.Eddie-Vedder

And what point is that?  That he has a personal beef against the 360?  That's painfully obvious, but I wouldn't call it a "point". 

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#86 REVENGEotSITH
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He has a point, rather lems want to admit it or not he does have a point.Eddie-Vedder

Exactly WHAT point does he have?  I went back through his nausiating post again and didn't see anything that made remote sense beyond the questioning of paying $50 a year for Live. 

Waiting for games?  Its the freakin' summer months.  Nobody releases any good games during this period.  Its a sales disaster to do so.

Achievements are great.  Only an idiot who hasn't played any games on the 360 would say something like this.  They are a great way to extend the play of a game, compare your progress of a game with your friends (again, this guy doesn't have any friends to play with - he even said that he prefers to play with random people so I can see why he wouldn't like Achievements), or to get a sense of record/accomplishment for finishing a game.

The 360 is full of great games in all genres.  Any gamer that doesn't at least acknowlege this is just being a blindboy.

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#87 Eddie-Vedder
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PS3 launch games are just as good if not better then the 360 launch games, the whole waiting for games statement applies to both sony and MS, but around here lems have forgotten how long it took them to get a blockbuster game. And plz don´t come here with your 9.0 PDZ AAA crap.
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#88 raidenseven
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Kameo was AA and deserved that score.

Lemmings had plenty to play right at launch.

fatzombiepigeon

its funny how 360 actually had a much better launch lineup than wii and PS3 :roll:

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#89 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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The best post I ever read on SW. QFTMFT!shungokustasu

 

I feel so sorry for you. 

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"Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me..."

Huh?  So, you'd rather play a game against a bunch of random people than play a game along side your buds, who you've played hundreds of matches spread over dozens of different games?  You must not get out much.

Making a statement like that basically tells me that you have a beef against the 360 and its fans and you are just grabbing at straws to come up with some solid argument against it.

To call the 360 lineup weak, let alone its launch lineup, is just being blind.  Games like Condemned, COD2, Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, GRAW2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Splinter Cell DA, Prey, NFS:MW, Chromehounds, F.E.A.R., and of course Gears of War are all amazing games.  You say the PS3 has great games.  OK, what, like 3 great games?  To bash on the 360s lineup and call praise to the meager 3 good games you have is just being ridiculous.

REVENGEotSITH

Nope PS3 has Oblivion, FNR3, Resistance, NHL2k7, Motorstorm, GTHD, VF5, VT3, FEAR, COD3, Tekken 6, Calling all Cars & others....But not all were launch games, like the 30 list you just composed & like the 360 list you composed, only 1 or 2 are capable system sellers.        

So all I'm saying is that if PS3's lineup was so totally unimpressive through a lemmings eyes, then as a cow that has owned a 360 from launch, I was more unimpressed with 360's games at launch...I also had a fear that my console would suffer the dreaded you know what of death.  

That's why I sold it to get another one later.    

I, unlike you, thought both consoles had enough quality games to keep any gamer going for long enough til the next batch comes out.  It's just I prefer the PS3 titles I mentioned.  This topic was only created to test how honest & logical most lemmings here on SW are....  It seems lemmings as a whole have failed the test & have set a new all time low for double standards.   

It seems you lemmings wat to count GeOW & Oblivion as 360 launch games.      

 

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#91 raidenseven
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PS3 launch games are just as good if not better then the 360 launch games, the whole waiting for games statement applies to both sony and MS, but around here lems have forgotten how long it took them to get a blockbuster game. And plz don´t come here with your 9.0 PDZ AAA crap.Eddie-Vedder

if you ocmpare scores 360 launch lineup was better than PS3.

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Waitstaition mcnation.
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#93 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]PS3 launch games are just as good if not better then the 360 launch games, the whole waiting for games statement applies to both sony and MS, but around here lems have forgotten how long it took them to get a blockbuster game. And plz don´t come here with your 9.0 PDZ AAA crap.raidenseven

if you ocmpare scores 360 launch lineup was better than PS3.

right and you honestly believe that proves me wrong? 

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#94 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

"Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me..."

Huh? So, you'd rather play a game against a bunch of random people than play a game along side your buds, who you've played hundreds of matches spread over dozens of different games? You must not get out much.

Making a statement like that basically tells me that you have a beef against the 360 and its fans and you are just grabbing at straws to come up with some solid argument against it.

To call the 360 lineup weak, let alone its launch lineup, is just being blind. Games like Condemned, COD2, Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, GRAW2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Splinter Cell DA, Prey, NFS:MW, Chromehounds, F.E.A.R., and of course Gears of War are all amazing games. You say the PS3 has great games. OK, what, like 3 great games? To bash on the 360s lineup and call praise to the meager 3 good games you have is just being ridiculous.

Roy_Drage

Nope PS3 has Oblivion, FNR3, Resistance, NHL2k7, Motorstorm, GTHD, VF5, VT3, FEAR, COD3, Tekken 6, Calling all Cars & others....But not all were launch games, like the 30 list you just composed & like the 360 list you composed, only 1 or 2 are capable system sellers.

So all I'm saying is that if PS3's lineup was so totally unimpressive through a lemmings eyes, then as a cow that has owned a 360 from launch, I was more unimpressed with 360's games at launch...I also had a fear that my console would suffer the dreaded you know what of death.

That's why I sold it to get another one later.

I, unlike you, thought both consoles had enough quality games to keep any gamer going for long enough til the next batch comes out. It's just I prefer the PS3 titles I mentioned. This topic was only created to test how honest & logical most lemmings here on SW are.... It seems lemmings as a whole have failed the test & have set a new all time low for double standards.

It seems you lemmings wat to count GeOW & Oblivion as 360 launch games.

 

GTHD, Tekken 6 and i'm nearly sure Calling all Cars arent even out yet, so what are you talking about ??? 

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#95 REVENGEotSITH
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PS3 launch games are just as good if not better then the 360 launch games, the whole waiting for games statement applies to both sony and MS, but around here lems have forgotten how long it took them to get a blockbuster game. And plz don´t come here with your 9.0 PDZ AAA crap.Eddie-Vedder

Well, by this time in the 360's existence, it had GRAW, COD2, PGR3, DOA4, Kameo, Burnout Revenge, Top Spin 2, Table Tennis (got an 8.5 here at GS) and Condemned.  All scored above an 8.0 (there were several other AA titles, but I didn't include them - especially PD0).  Compare that to Resistence, COD3, M:UA, VF5, Tekken, Virtua Tennis, Motorstorm, and Splinter Cell DA.  Throw in the "common" games like Fight Night, Oblivion, and the sports games, it really comes down to preference as to which one had/has the better lineup at that point in their existence.

I'd take the 360 lineup since COD3, VT, and Splinter Cell DA are also on the 360.  The bottom line is - comparing those two lists doesn't show a "clear" winner.  That being said, the extra year that the 360 has over the PS3 has allowed it to deliver titles such as Dead Rising, GRAW2, Gears of War, Rainbow Six Vegas, and many others.  THAT makes it the clear choice over the PS3.

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#96 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]PS3 launch games are just as good if not better then the 360 launch games, the whole waiting for games statement applies to both sony and MS, but around here lems have forgotten how long it took them to get a blockbuster game. And plz don´t come here with your 9.0 PDZ AAA crap.REVENGEotSITH

Well, by this time in the 360's existence, it had GRAW, COD2, PGR3, DOA4, Kameo, Burnout Revenge, Top Spin 2, Table Tennis (got an 8.5 here at GS) and Condemned. All scored above an 8.0 (there were several other AA titles, but I didn't include them - especially PD0). Compare that to Resistence, COD3, M:UA, VF5, Tekken, Virtua Tennis, Motorstorm, and Splinter Cell DA. Throw in the "common" games like Fight Night, Oblivion, and the sports games, it really comes down to preference as to which one had/has the better lineup at that point in their existence.

I'd take the 360 lineup since COD3, VT, and Splinter Cell DA are also on the 360. The bottom line is - comparing those two lists doesn't show a "clear" winner. That being said, the extra year that the 360 has over the PS3 has allowed it to deliver titles such as Dead Rising, GRAW2, Gears of War, Rainbow Six Vegas, and many others. THAT makes it the clear choice over the PS3.

I agree, but the clear choice thing, only if you were to think no more games would come out, personally I dont buy a console based on the games it has only, what´s coming is just as important and at this point in it´s lifespan, much more important. 

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"with half assed Rare efforts like PDZ & Kameo"

Stopped reading right there. Those games are quality titles...foxhound_fox

You say that now but if those games were coming out this year they would get 8 or lower scores and no one would care. They just had the benifit of launch hype to be popularized. PDZ and Kameo were nowhere near the previous quality and revolutionary games Rare produced. 

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#98 REVENGEotSITH
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[QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

"Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me..."

Huh?  So, you'd rather play a game against a bunch of random people than play a game along side your buds, who you've played hundreds of matches spread over dozens of different games?  You must not get out much.

Making a statement like that basically tells me that you have a beef against the 360 and its fans and you are just grabbing at straws to come up with some solid argument against it.

To call the 360 lineup weak, let alone its launch lineup, is just being blind.  Games like Condemned, COD2, Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, GRAW2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Splinter Cell DA, Prey, NFS:MW, Chromehounds, F.E.A.R., and of course Gears of War are all amazing games.  You say the PS3 has great games.  OK, what, like 3 great games?  To bash on the 360s lineup and call praise to the meager 3 good games you have is just being ridiculous.

Roy_Drage

Nope PS3 has Oblivion, FNR3, Resistance, NHL2k7, Motorstorm, GTHD, VF5, VT3, FEAR, COD3, Tekken 6, Calling all Cars & others....But not all were launch games, like the 30 list you just composed & like the 360 list you composed, only 1 or 2 are capable system sellers.        

So all I'm saying is that if PS3's lineup was so totally unimpressive through a lemmings eyes, then as a cow that has owned a 360 from launch, I was more unimpressed with 360's games at launch...I also had a fear that my console would suffer the dreaded you know what of death.  

So, if I take out the multiplats, we are left with: Resistence, Motorstorm, two fighting games and two downloadable games.  THIS is supposed to make me want to go out and drop $600 + tax when I already own a 360??? 

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#99 Roy_Drage
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]PS3 launch games are just as good if not better then the 360 launch games, the whole waiting for games statement applies to both sony and MS, but around here lems have forgotten how long it took them to get a blockbuster game. And plz don´t come here with your 9.0 PDZ AAA crap.raidenseven

if you ocmpare scores 360 launch lineup was better than PS3.

I prefer to play the actual game, rather than base my personal purchasing decisions off someone elses opinions of a game.      And face it, GS, IGN & any other site are just stating their personal opinion of a game...Their opinions are no better than anyone elses, just different.        If a GS reviewer that prefers rpg's & has been reviewing non-stop ammounts of fps's has Resistance come across their desk...Chances are it will score lower than it really deserves.      The only thing I can agree with  for sure in game reviews is that a terrible game, is a terrible game.   The rest is negligable...Like PDZ to me was a 6.5-7 scoring game, wheras Resistance was a 9, Motorstorm was  a 9 not a 7.9, & COD2 got raped by GS by being outscored by PDZ as one of 360's best launch games.     But all these games scores are negligable (except PDZ, as I'll never get GS's take on that steaming pile of dogs turd).  So a 8 gs scoring game can be a 9 by lots of other peoples standards.   

GS scores only register with SW fanboys, who can't claim ownage in any other way, but in the real world true gamers don't base buying decisions off any one score on a website, & casuals buy games off name & instincts......As shown with 50cents Bulletproof mass sales, compared to Ico & others dismal sales.  

 

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[QUOTE="Roy_Drage"][QUOTE="REVENGEotSITH"]

"Half the fun of playing online, is to play against people you don't know, so friends lists are irrellevent for me..."

Huh? So, you'd rather play a game against a bunch of random people than play a game along side your buds, who you've played hundreds of matches spread over dozens of different games? You must not get out much.

Making a statement like that basically tells me that you have a beef against the 360 and its fans and you are just grabbing at straws to come up with some solid argument against it.

To call the 360 lineup weak, let alone its launch lineup, is just being blind. Games like Condemned, COD2, Dead Rising, Oblivion, GRAW, GRAW2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Splinter Cell DA, Prey, NFS:MW, Chromehounds, F.E.A.R., and of course Gears of War are all amazing games. You say the PS3 has great games. OK, what, like 3 great games? To bash on the 360s lineup and call praise to the meager 3 good games you have is just being ridiculous.

Snugenz

Nope PS3 has Oblivion, FNR3, Resistance, NHL2k7, Motorstorm, GTHD, VF5, VT3, FEAR, COD3, Tekken 6, Calling all Cars & others....But not all were launch games, like the 30 list you just composed & like the 360 list you composed, only 1 or 2 are capable system sellers.

So all I'm saying is that if PS3's lineup was so totally unimpressive through a lemmings eyes, then as a cow that has owned a 360 from launch, I was more unimpressed with 360's games at launch...I also had a fear that my console would suffer the dreaded you know what of death.

That's why I sold it to get another one later.

I, unlike you, thought both consoles had enough quality games to keep any gamer going for long enough til the next batch comes out. It's just I prefer the PS3 titles I mentioned. This topic was only created to test how honest & logical most lemmings here on SW are.... It seems lemmings as a whole have failed the test & have set a new all time low for double standards.

It seems you lemmings wat to count GeOW & Oblivion as 360 launch games.

 

GTHD, Tekken 6 and i'm nearly sure Calling all Cars arent even out yet, so what are you talking about ??? 

I meant tekken 5.   And gthd has been available since launch noob.